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I’ve been using a 3700x for about six months now - upgraded from an FX8320. I recently was able to get my hands on a 5800x and popped it in my B550 board. After seeing benchmarks online that made this CPU just as appealing as a GPU upgrade, I found that my performance in games were quite literally little to none. Examples: Horizon Zero Dawn went from 73 FPS average to 75; Generation Zero went from 92 FPS average to 96. I thought that was strange because if you’re like me, a Zen 2 user who saw the huge gains from benchmarks and videos online, you’d have probably expected much better, right? Well, here’s the thing, and a lot of you have probably already said ‘there isn’t enough info or context,’ get ready. I’m gaming at 1440p on a 2070 Super. That’s where the issue lies. For those gaming at 1080p, you will likely see a much bigger difference than I did - obviously because the CPU is more stressed at lower resolutions. I didn’t even connect the dots when buying the CPU. So, here’s my warning/advice for those on Zen 2 or similarly-performing architectures such as 9th or 10th Gen Intel: wait. Wait for Zen 4 if you’re gaming at 1440p. Your CPU is already more than enough. Focus on a GPU upgrade if you must upgrade something. I will be returning my 5800x now. Obviously, this article does not speak of productivity performance as that’s a whole other issue you need to workout yourself. But for the gamers out there, hear my words. Thank you for your time
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Since its a Zen3 chip with just more cache should it not work with AM4?
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Hey, I just received my 5900x today and am about to start the build process. I am getting my BIOS USB ready for the Flashback feature on my ASUS X570-F. I believe the BIOS needs to be updated to AGESA 1.1.0.0 however, on the BIOS download page of the motherboard it has two versions with this version of AGESA. One that was released on the 23rd of October and a Beta BIOS released on the 5th of November. I am not sure which one to use mainly because I am skeptical about the fact that the latest one is a Beta. Both have identical release notes, "Improve system stability" etc. All help is much appreciated! Thanks!
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Now, I am very much a noob, so excuse me if I say something wrong. Like the title says, can Zen 1 run 3600 mhz ram? I have a R5 1600 and I plan to pick up some ram during boxing day, but I am not sure whether it'll reach that speed. I have seen posts saying that zen 1 can barely get over 3000 mhz, which I find confusing since I am currently running at the stock 3200 mhz my current ram supports. I've been looking at DRAM calculator for Ryzen and it too does indicate that 3600 mhz is above Zen 1's limit. Is this true, and if so, does it mean that ram advertised at 3600 mhz won't be able to run at that speed in my system?
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Hey all, I built a new rig recently with a Ryzen 3600 and ASRock B550 board. No OC so far, I've kept everything stock. I've noticed in Ryzen Master that the stock voltages the board is putting out seem pretty high. Looks like it's doing up to 1.4-ish volts for single core, and when I run an all-core stress test, it's capping at about 1.34 volts. I've seen a couple posts such as this one on the AMD subreddit saying the max safe all-core is 1.325V. Is it possible the default voltage on the board is going to degrade my chip? Should I manually undervolt a bit? Thanks!
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Sup. I have the x370 CROSSHAIR VI HERO wifi and I want to update my bios from version 1602, I installed when I got the mobo all those years ago, to support Zen 2. Do I just install the latest version or are there any bios' I need to update to in between? Can't seem to find anything on the support page mentioning it
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Looking pretty darn good on the CPU side for AMD considering it has only been 4 years since Zen/Ryzen launched. Sadly though, according to these statistics, Radeon isn't doing so well. Only the RX 580 had the ability of making it into the top 10. Source: https://www.techspot.com/news/86969-amd-now-accounts-over-25-cpus-among-steam.html
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Hello! Quick question (first post ever) it basically says everything in the title. The 3600 has Zen 2 architecture but it only says optimizing for AMD Zen in Prime95. Is this only a little Bug I shouldnt pay attention to or worth looking at or does it just mean its generally optimizing for AMD Zen arch. Thanks in advance!
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so recently i have found out abt cpu lithography and have no idea what it means so please explain the difference in 12nm and 14nm. also explain to me what cpu architectures are. also what is zen, zen+, zen2?? please explain to me like how u would to a 6yr old
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Quad-core or Hexa-core for my toaster?
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I am worried about thermals here currently it has a GTX 970 and I will replace it for a Vega 56 later... I think it will fit? Barely maybe? The main goal is to make a PC capable to run all games next Gen can toss at it! The only issue is should I go a quad-core or hexa core? I am thinking wait for 4000 series because 5nm rumor to prevent it from killing itself due to heat but... (which Zen 3 would you get?) Athlon X4 880K @4.3GHz (Socket FM2+) DDR3-1866MHz (CL9-10-11-27) MSI GeForce GTX 970 OC Samsung 850 2.5" SSD (500GBx2) Western Digital 2TB 2.5" HDD 1280x1024 Gaming PC (50% less pixels) *First GPU = GeForce GTX 960 (2GB) *First Upgrade = GTX 970 (58% better) *Second Upgrade = Vega 56 (65% better) AMD FX-8370 @4.3GHz (Socket AM3+) DDR3-2133MHz (CL9-11-11-31) Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Samsung 850 2.5" SSD (500GBx2) Seagate 2TB 3.5" SSHD 1920x1080p Gaming PC *First GPU = GeForce GTX 970 *First Upgrade = RX Vega 56 (65% better) *Second Upgrade = Navi 2nd Gen? -
*Entering salt factory, safety gear and hard hat required!* Speculations shows a leak chart from AMD internal slides, on the next gen cpu called "Pinnacle Ridge". This could be AMD "Zen 2". It features up to 8 Zen cores, for both mobile and desktop. Desktop gets 95w tdp and ddr4. Also in 2018, Raven Ridge get VEGA 11 gpu cores built into the cpu. And there seems to be some Summit in China. https://videocardz.com/67362/amd-pinnacle-ridge-to-feature-up-to-8-zen2-cores
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source: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Bug-in-AMD-Ryzen-Kompletter-Systemabsturz-bei-manchen-FMA3-Anwendungen-3641409.html http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=167605 HWBot users have discovered a reproductible hardware bug that seems to affect FMA3 instructions the bug appears to show up when it gets to if this is a instruction set but and not something else, this could be potentially patched via a BIOS micro-code update so far, this bug has been confirmed on: Heise.DE was able to reproduce the bug with Ryzen 7 1700X on the MSI X370 XPower Gaming Titanium and a Ryzen 7 1700 on the Asus Crosshair VI Hero instruction set bugs are not uncommon, as Intel's own Skylake launch was troubled with AVX bug that was discovered couple of months after at this time, AMD did not respond to the inquiry made by Heise.DE --- update: 16th of March more info on this from PCPer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDrOQrjJTSs it seems that the FMA3 set isn't actually bugged, but it seems it doesn't have enough power delivered to it as 25% of the people who OCed their CPU were able to ran the test successfully sources inside AMD have said that it's a known issue and a BIOS update is indeed planned
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source: https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/03/13/amd-ryzen-community-update?sf62107357=1 in the light of AMD's own investigations and other 3rd party investigation into Windows' 10 ability to properly identify Ryzen CPUs and assigns threads accordingly, AMD's Robert Hallock posted on AMD's blog: so ... ladies and gentlemen - do not expect AMD / MicroSoft to release a W10 patch that will magically fix Ryzen's poor gaming performance - it is what it is and nothing will change that however, AMD plans to release a patch that addresses the power plan issues, in April so why W7 performs better? because W7 is the better OS
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this can create a shitstorm and I don't understand why are they opening themselves to more fires to extinguish both ASUS and MSI were caught with performance altered cards sent to reviewers why, just why!? --- apparently the BIOS was not distributed to the press only if you search hard enough, it's available on ASUS site: ----
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So I'm a week away from buying and building this PC PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hJ933F Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hJ933F/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor (£165.00 @ Aria PC) Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£44.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) Memory: PNY Anarchy 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£39.55 @ Amazon UK) Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC) Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB RS Video Card (£188.00 @ Amazon UK) Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£34.99 @ Amazon UK) Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£47.91 @ Ebuyer) Total: £556.38 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-04 23:02 GMT+0000 But i saw this article about Zen http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-processor-family-leak-r7-1800x-flagship/ and began to wonder. I have currently found no alternative to this i5, a £13-180ish quad core or higher with a good upgrade path, but it suffers from reasonably low single core performance. Will Zen offer a compelling and preferably overclockable CPU in this price range with decent overclocking boards? If so is it worth the wait till march?
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source: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3167279/computers/amd-sorry-there-will-be-no-official-ryzen-drivers-for-windows-7.html via: http://digiworthy.com/2017/02/09/amd-ryzen-drivers-for-windows-7/ you should not believe rumors and only what comes from the mouths of the actual people involved, in this case AMD AMD said it validated if Zen works on Windows 7, but did not say they will actually support it --- my guess is that ComputerBase.DE misspoke when originally reported Zen will get W7 drivers - must've been AMD saying they validated W7, and CB.de interpreting it wrong --- let's get some things straight because I see a lot of people misrepresenting the issue the problem is not directly the CPU (RyZen), but the chipset drivers - unless AMD didn't do major augments to the x86 arch, Windows doesn't need specific Zen kernel patches for W7, neither W10 (for that matter) the issues are the chipset family, and the other integrated devices in the CPU and chipset - integrated graphics, USB, SATA controller (RAID) .. etc
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source ChipHell via: http://digiworthy.com/2017/03/18/amd-16-core-ryzen-cpu/ 1st of, HEDT stands for High End Desktop we already know Intel already sampled Skylake-X and KabyLake-X since November last year; we also know Intel is planning to replace the current X99 HEDT platform with a new one, the X299 is it plausible AMD plans to introduce a in-between Ryzen and Naples platform? rumors say they'll do it gaming wise, this platform shouldn't even be considered computing wise it has the potential to put the screws to Intel, but it greatly depends on what Intel will have to offer and what SKUs AMD will present as alternatives - don't expect pricing to be "normal" ps: if you're expecting this to be AM4 compatible ... tough luck --- edit March 21nd more info: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/AMD-Ryzen-Spekulationen-um-High-End-Plattform-mit-16-Kernen-und-vier-Speicherkanaelen-3660131.html unnamed source has confirmed to Heise.DE that AMD is working on a HEDT platform also, the new socket will be a variation of SP3 (LGA 4094 Naples), SP3r2
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source: although not particularly stated by MicroSoft, one of the March 15th updates to Windows 10 has some Ryzen tweaks as the source shows, no gains in TW: Warhammer, Cinebench, HandBrake nor Batman: AA; but a 35% increase in UT3 benchmark tool of ~35% (not 45% as stated in the tweet) from what I'm getting, the new scheduler behaviour is to prioritize work to cores (0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14) and not SMT threads (1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15) - kinda treating it as SMT off new testing needs to be done
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Hey guys, what temps are you getting with your ryzen CPU's, is anyone having issues with idle temps? Both my brother and I have H100i's (gen 1) on our chips and are seeing temps around 50°C idle. We have reseated and checked different programs for a different result but to no avail. Could this be an issue with low mounting pressure? Load temps are around 60°C.
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source: https://videocardz.com/66846/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-review-leaked chinese website ChipHell leaked their benchmarks results ahead of time 1800X single thread performance is, as expected, weak; multithread perf is on par (or better/worse) compared to i7 6900K; the memory / cache latency is abysmal: synthetic graphics perf puts it on par with i7 7700K the benchmarks seems to be done with the previous version of the altered BIOS we're discussing here: would be interesting to see if others do benches on same platform, with the new BIOS, and how they compare generally the 1800X is faster than the i7 7700K, but also quite more expensive
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source: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/ "The Slit", established member over Anand's forums has done some testing that feature more technical benchmarks that you don't usually see go check the source for all the benches and results plus in depth technical details on the CPU and chipset (Zeppelin; the chipset is inside the CPU) the tests were conducted at 3.5Ghz mobo used ASUS CROSSHAIR VI HERO results with ER mean extremes removed (highest and lowest) let's talk IPC: back in 2015, AMD estimated a 40% IPC increase over Excavator, they achieved that and 6.6% over it - that's good what's not so good is that Zen's IPC is practically lower than Haswell's, a microarchitecture that's already 4y old - AMD took 5y in development to produce a CPU that's slower than an already 4y old microarchitecture [extremes removed] IPC gains: Zen over Excavator: 46.62% Zen over Haswell: -7.03% KabyLake over Haswell: 14.29% (my math, take with salt) Zen over KabyLake: -25.56% the FMA set implementation in Zen seems very problematic as tests with Linpack and Himeno shows: Himeno benchmark (evaluates performance of incompressible fluid analysis code - takes in measurements to precede major loops in solving the Poisson's equation solution using the Jacobi iteration method) shows particularly bad results: and before you start blaming the compiler, here's what "The Slit" said: GCC - GNU Compiler Collection MSVC - Microsoft Visual C++ compiler ICL - Intel C++ compiler --- AMD needs to get their house in order, because after seeing what happened with this launch, I don't see a bright future for AMD on the market Intel has nothing to fear from Zen - AMD's products for enterprise (Naples), based on the current IPC, have no reason to exist other than being a cheap alternative