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I’ve been using a 3700x for about six months now - upgraded from an FX8320. I recently was able to get my hands on a 5800x and popped it in my B550 board. After seeing benchmarks online that made this CPU just as appealing as a GPU upgrade, I found that my performance in games were quite literally little to none. Examples: Horizon Zero Dawn went from 73 FPS average to 75; Generation Zero went from 92 FPS average to 96. I thought that was strange because if you’re like me, a Zen 2 user who saw the huge gains from benchmarks and videos online, you’d have probably expected much better, right? Well, here’s the thing, and a lot of you have probably already said ‘there isn’t enough info or context,’ get ready. I’m gaming at 1440p on a 2070 Super. That’s where the issue lies. For those gaming at 1080p, you will likely see a much bigger difference than I did - obviously because the CPU is more stressed at lower resolutions. I didn’t even connect the dots when buying the CPU. So, here’s my warning/advice for those on Zen 2 or similarly-performing architectures such as 9th or 10th Gen Intel: wait. Wait for Zen 4 if you’re gaming at 1440p. Your CPU is already more than enough. Focus on a GPU upgrade if you must upgrade something. I will be returning my 5800x now. Obviously, this article does not speak of productivity performance as that’s a whole other issue you need to workout yourself. But for the gamers out there, hear my words. Thank you for your time
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So, why zen+ is officialy supported by windows 11, even though it lacks hardaware HVCI support? And also, which will be the performance hit by running this os with HVCI enabled (on zen+ cpu)?
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Hi guys, So I recently got an Asus Prime X570-P motherboard (I was using an Asrock B450 Pro4). There's no option to enable Precision Boost Overdrive in its BIOS. I checked the MB manual and also checked videos of people using this same motherboard where the option is clearly there (although some videos are old and some recent ones were using Zen2/Zen3 processors). For the record, the same thing happened with my old Asrock board. I'm wondering if support for PBO was dropped on Zen+. Since I couldn't get PBO I overclocked my CPU manually when I had some time. For now I have it running at 4.05GHz at 1.22v, but I'm still curious about PBO support. -
Hey all, I have a Zen+ cpu currently installed in my B450 Aorus Pro (non-wifi) and I want to re-use the mobo for zen3 when I plan on upgrading later this year. (I know it's probably better to upgrade the mobo too but ill only be using a 5600x) I can update my bios right now in preparation to support zen3 but I cannot find any info on whether or not I can continue to use my zen+ chip with the latest bios (F61 is the latest, supporting the g-series. F60 is the zen3 update) https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-PRO-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios (Link to the official site) I know that some manufacturers drop support for older chips to make space for the new ones, but again I'm not sure right now if that includes zen+. Although, it likely is the case as the auto bios updater in the app center (gigabyte bloatware) says it cannot find a new bios (current bios is F40), that could be just the poor software but also has me thinking it's stopping me from downloading an incompatible bios. My plan is to just purchase the new chip, update the bios with my zen+ then do the install and hopefully that works. There is no physical Q-flash on board so that would leave me with doing it manually. cheers
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Hey all, I have a Zen+ cpu currently installed in my B450 Aorus Pro (non-wifi) and I want to re-use the mobo for zen3 when I plan on upgrading later this year. (I know it's probably better to upgrade the mobo too but ill only be using a 5600x) I can update my bios right now in preparation to support zen3 but I cannot find any info on whether or not I can continue to use my zen+ chip with the latest bios (F61 is the latest, supporting the g-series. F60 is the zen3 update) https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-PRO-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios (Link to the official site) I know that some manufacturers drop support for older chips to make space for the new ones, but again I'm not sure right now if that includes zen+. Although, it likely is the case as the auto bios updater in the app center (gigabyte bloatware) says it cannot find a new bios (current bios is F40), that could be just the poor software but also has me thinking it's stopping me from downloading an incompatible bios. My plan is to just purchase the new chip, update the bios with my zen+ then do the install and hopefully that works. There is no physical Q-flash on board so that would leave me with doing it manually. cheers -
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gnVcBc CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory Storage: Team GX1 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Storage: Patriot VPN100 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 570 4 GB ARMOR OC Video Card Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: NZXT C 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-25 21:17 EST-0500 I think I managed to get an stable OC 4.0GHz @1,350V LLC Mode 2. I used AIDA 64 for over and hour to check for stability. I was reading different threads about OC and some people recommend to disable AMD CoolN'Quiet and Global C States. That's why I'm wondering what settings should I pay attention to when OCing. I've seen several Bulzzoid videos in which he also disables overcurrent protection settings. Is there a good article to read and learn about all this little details? I was reading this (AMD Ryzen (2000-Series) Overclocking Guide | TweakTown) but it doesn't go over everything I wanted to know -
Hello there, i believe there might be something wrong with my memory speed... HWinfo: ASRock B450M-HDV, AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, G Skill F4-3200C16-8GVKB x2 The system is older already, but I configured it back then to run the actual 2933mHz memory speed that Zen+ supports, yet it doesnt appear to do so. I have enable XMP 2.0 in the bios and set the frequency to 2933mHz but the actual speed my pc is reporting to me is only 1463 mHz.... The motherboard should be able to handle up tp 3200mHz and specifically 2933 on these ram sticks. Now the website for the motherbaord also mentioned that OC might be needed for some sticks and some frequencies, but im not sure what im supposed to do with that information... Do i have to overclock them somehow to get the 2933mHz or is the frequency just a problem of the motherboard?
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I've been struggling for a long time with my R7 2700. Random Black Screen crash with PC fans running but no peripherals. It started happening with an As rock basic motherboard that was later changed to a B450 Tomahawk, and the issued persisted (not a motherboard issue). Changing the RAM apparently solved the issue, FOR THE MOST PART. I would like to run a simple OC to 4 GHz at 1.35 – 1.375 V (most users report they can get 4 GHz+ no issues). The chip should be able to do it, it can complete CB R20 several times until the black screen happens again. From what I read online, some users report that increasing SoC Voltage solved the issue for them. So that's my question, should I increase the voltage to help with my CPU OC? Zen+ IPC is quite slow, so until I can upgrade, I would like to get more performance out of this chip. I have used it at 4 GHz for gaming numerous days without crashing, but the moment I stability test, the issue will appear again. That's why I say I think my CPU should be able to handle 4 GHz. -
hello guys i built my pc with 8x2gb or corsair vengeance 3200mhz ram (hynix die) 3 years ago and recently i was running out of ram at 90%+ peak usage so i brought the same set of ram to fill up the remainding 2 ram slots but this time it came with samsung die. The best speed i could set all the ram running at is 2666mhz cl16 and i was think should i bother with overclocking the ram to get extra speed? since my current cpu is zen+ where ram speed affects performance. i tried 2993 mhz before and it sometimes boot up but revert itself back to 2133mhz after a few times my pc specs: ryzen 7 2700 b450 mortar gtx 1660 super 550w psu i do plan to build a new pc 5 years later as my country have conscription(2 year) after i finished my tertiary education 2.5 years later and my pc would be just collecting dust when i am in the armed forces so i plan to built one after that
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Hi guys, I've been using a Core i5 3330 for the last... 8 years? I got a ryzen 5 2600 on its way, should be arriving in a week or so. Somewhere I had read somesaying that I should only update my board's bios to the update containing certain AGESA version, which was the last one that came up with support up to Zen+ (after that the first version supporting Zen2 was released). I guess he says that because some updates removed "non-critical stuff" for older boards in order to make space for supporting the newer architecture and PCIe 4.0. I'm wondering if he was right or if there has been Zen+ improvements on the latest AGESA releases, be it for performance or stability. The motherboard I have at hand for that CPU is the gigabyte B450 DS3H Rev 3.0. I was aiming to get an Asrock B450 Pro 4 F but couldn't find one here... and a few days after I bought the gigabyte one I saw some people receiving batches of the Asrock board and I regretted my purchase.
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Hello guys, i need your help again. As the community standards pointed out that everyone has to write 5 points in the New Builds and Planning section 1. Budget & Location I live in the silly place for computer parts, because they don't think that Xeons are cheap, they think it is so awesome They also give ridiculous pricing for Graphics card! like $480 for RX 580 4GB. The PC Part Picker of Indonesia for used and new parts are : -OLX.co.id -https://www.bukalapak.com/ My budget is around Rp.14.655.443 ($1100). Also the currency is Rupiah (IDR) 2. Aim I am gonna be using my PC for Streaming and Gaming, specifically at 1080p 60Hz and FHD Quality Stream. But my games are gonna be Need for Speed series, Minecraft and Games like Crysis 3 3. Monitors Just a Samsung 1080p Curved 40 inch TV, and is it worth if i exchange for the LG's Largest 4K Monitor 43UD79? I bought the FHD TV For like $446 New when 2015 4. Peripherals I already hunted for Logitech equipments Like G413 keyboard and G403 Mouse. Also a Razer Kraken Pro is bundled with my upcoming PSU 5. Why am i upgrading? I already have a super old PC (LGA 775) and i think i can sell it for $121 (if you want the specs of it tell me) so i can make the PC Price not so Expensive. But what i have listed is this 1. Ryzen 5 1600 : $201.28 Link2. Asus X370-Pro : $193.73 Link3. Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4-2666 : $93.07 Link4. Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 8GB : $256.825. Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD : $50.926. Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD : $84.267. Corsair HX650i + Razer Kraken Pro : $120.908. Corsair Carbide 330r : $50.92Total : $1073.85 Well i am gonna use this thing as a light workstation so i can edit school tasks (video), and my friend's content (also Video) But i would like to have 75Hz experience in summary then, is this actually good? let me know in the comment section below and as always thank you -
I'm building a entry level gaming pc. My budget is quite tight so I can't afford 3600. I've chosen 1650 super as my GPU can't go higher than this. Also i'll take an entry level b450 motherboard (GIGABYTE AMD B450M DS3H ULTRA DURABLE RGB MOTHERBOARD) and 16 gb RAM. BUT i'm in doubt in CPU, should I take Ryzen 5 2600 or 3500?? What kind of performance gap will I get in this combination? IF 3500 is better, then does it worth the extra 30$ (in local market) or should i spend that money on a better motherboard?
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Hello, I'm planning on building a PC (once I get sufficient funds) that's going to use a Ryzen 2600. Is it possible to use a B350 mothrrboard instead of a B450 ir an X470 motherboard? I've heard that you'd need a regular Zen CPU to install the BIOS for the Zen+ to work. Is this true? How would I flash the BIOS? Is it possible to contact AMD and get a low-end AM4 CPU to do it? Please help. Tell me if you need me to clarify.
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doing a ryzen build but on the fence about just geting one of the currently availble offerings or waiting for the soon to be released upcoming Zen 2 and x570 mobos. What you guys think?
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Parts: Asrock x399 Taichi, AMD Threadripper 2950x, 4x16gb 3200mhz Corsair Vengeance LPX (in A2, B2, C2, and D2 slots) Bios settings: Memory Interleaving - channel, XMP profile on - 3200 mhz, performance enhancer - level 3, oc mode - oc3 I'm running two windows installs (one per NUMA node) on a Manjaro host - everything else works great. I know it's slightly older tech now, but I've been running at 2133 for a while now because I never figured this out and it bothers me. Now if I leave the XMP profile disabled, lstopo shows two NUMA nodes with 31 gigs each and the bios says they're running at 2133 mhz. If I enable XMP to get that 3200mhz, lstopo shows one NUMA node with 63 gigs of ram. What am I missing? Why would enabling an XMP profile force the system into UMA mode even with memory interleaving set to channel? My understanding is that Zen+ performance is more tied to ram timings since it binds the infinity fabric speed, so running at 3200 mhz would really be ideal if I could keep both NUMA nodes! I'd also rather keep NUMA mode if possible since that will reduce latency for my two VMs. Though maybe the increased ram speed in UMA mode would make up for it?
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hey y'all i just bought some new ram (g skill ripjaws v 3000 cl-15) but when i enable the xmp profile games tend to crash after 1-5 minutes. they just close and my pc goes to desktop, this doesnt happen when i disable the xmp profile tough but then it runs at 2133 mhz :(. anyway i did the windows memory test and it said nothing was wrong. i also tried upping the voltage to 1.4v while xmp is enabled and then the games run longer (5-10 min) but still crash the same way in the end. i also tried lowering the frequency to 2866 while xmp is enabled and this fixed it at first i tought but now the games crash after like 1-2 hours. normal desktop aplications run fine. my specs: ryzen 5 2600 and a asus prime b350 m-a mobo -
Okay so hello guys I need some help I have b450 tomahawk max gskill Trident z RGB 16gb 3200mhz evga 550 b3 gtx 1060 6gb which I will do an update on 2080ti or 3070 but for now my cpu (ryzen 7 1700) memory controller is faulty I will rma it and now I want to buy cpu. My question is should I go with zen+ ( 2700x) and not with zen2 ( 3700x or maybe 3600x) because the 2700x is more time on the market and they have fix the problems for oc and ram compatibility right ? What do you think ??
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I'm thinking about buying the 2300X when it comes out. Does zen+ has better OC performance on average than zen since it's 12nm instead of 14nm? I know that theoretically thermal output/core should be lower and therefore less cooling is needed for the same frequency but it doesn't feel to me like it matters in practice.
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Hi LTT community, I'm planning to build my first rig this month and I currently have two setups in mind. I'll mostly do virtualization stuff and light gaming and I also don't plan to overclock cpu wise. Which one do you guys think would perform better? EDIT: Changed MOBO for Intel build and PSU for both. Would also like to hear feedback from you guys regarding compatibility issues (if any) to commonly used virtualization/emulation programs like gns3, eve-ng, ESXi, etc. **Prices are in SGD AMD Price Intel Price Gigabyte Aorus 5 x470 WiFi AMD Ryzen 2700x 735 ASUS TUF H370 Wifi Intel i7 8700 646 G.SKILL SNIPER X 3200MHz CL16 268 KINGSTON HYPERX FURY 2666MHz CL16 265 Samsung 970 Evo M.2 NVMe 256GB 164 Samsung 970 Evo M.2 NVMe 256GB 164 Seasonic Focus+ 650W 149 Seasonic Focus+ 650W 149 Tecware Verge RGB 108 Seagate Baracuda 1TB 57 Zotac GTX1060 6Gb Amp!Edition BackPlate 428 ID-Cooling FrostFlow+ 240 85 Seagate Baracuda 1TB 57 Tecware Verge RGB 108 Zotac GTX1060 6Gb Amp!Edition BackPlate 428 Total 1909 Total 1902
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I'm planning on buying a B350 MOBO (GA-AB350M-HD3) now and wait for the rumored and expected 2300X. Do you think that they will be compatible from the get go or do I need to lend an older CPU to update the BIOS like other zen+ processors? It does have BIOS revisions for the other zen+ processors. Thank you in advance.
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witch is better for gaming ? .. as both are at the same price
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Hello, I've used this forum to find help alot of time but this is my first time posting I have a pretty old CPU ( i5 2300 ) and now I finally saved some money and I'm looking to buy a new Ryzen cpu. The question is do I wait for 19th of April for Zen+ (2600x) Optimization stage or do I wait even more for Zen 2 in Inflection stage? I want to build a good PC that will last me the next 5 years, I mostly use it for gaming and heavy softwares. If there is and Intel option that will be at better value I would like to know too.
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Has anyone bought new X470 motherboards with Ryzen 2000 series processors? What RAM are you using and what speeds are you getting, any problems? I am tried to look up a few modules in the compatibility list and I can't find the exact same model (similarly to 1st gen motherboard). I heard more ram are compatible so in theory, maybe we don't need to look to manuals anymore, as it was with gen1 motherboards before? -
Disclaimer: first time publishing in this forum so, please, be gentle. Hi everyone! I am planning a PC build (my first ever) now that I work and have a stable income. I am based in Belgium and planning for something under 1000€ (~1200USD) and to buy pieces one by one instead of bulking. The whole point of the build is to have a 1080p gaming pc + small home NAS in one system. My aim was to build something like this: Ryzen 5 1600 B350 MoBo 16GB DDR4 ram (decent speed) 500 Gb SSD 2-4 TB SSHD GTX 1060 6GB 650W modular PSU This was, give or take, the initial plan by Q4 2017. But since then a lot changed (especially prices, availability and new launches). Here is where I stand now (what I already have): B350 MoBo (mATX) (80€) 16Gb Ram (2666) (170€) 500 GB (M.2 SSD) (140€) 650W modular PSU (100€) To be honest my goal now is to put the system up and running so I am missing essentially a CPU and a GPU or an APU. Which comes to my question. What should I do given the current GPU prices and new Ryzen CPUs coming soon: Go for a Ryzen 2400G, and add a GPU later when prices come down Go for a Ryzen 1600 and buy a lower end GPU (1050Ti at ~220€) Wait for Zen+ and buy a lower end GPU Other ideas? The storage for the NAS will come later as that is not so important for me, for me is key to have a running PC where I can play some e-sports but also some newer single player games (Shadow of War, Tomb Raider, etc) in high settings at 1080p (if not immediately, at least later with a GPU upgrade). Thank you!
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First of all sorry if my english is very bad. So, i have a R5 1600X but i dont have my motherboard yet, so i was wondering if a B450 chipset will be better for my cpu instead of a B350. I know that some motherboards of Zen first generation had issues with bios and memory compatibilities. Maybe on the b450 those problems are solved at launch, idk. And maybe some features not strictly linked to Ryzen+ architecture could work on Zen first. Thanks in advance.
