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WANTED! 2-in-1 Laptop 14-16" (16 preferred) R7-7840 U/HS 2560:1600 (true 16:10 1440p) M.2 2280 Slot (preferable second one, too) 16+ GB RAM (is it too much to hope for extendable one?) USB PD Charging (USB-C charging) 2x USB-A AND 2x USB-C Decent sound / trackpad / keyboard Maybe an OLED display? 400 nits, 90 Hz? Joke aside, if you know about a laptop like that, please let me know! Why is it that I can't find any R7-7840 Laptop? The HS "launched" in January. (Not even Notebookcheck seems to have done any tests on it...) Does anyone know if laptop manufacturers could just rebrand the 6800Us to 7735U, or are they actually "new chips"? Also, why isn't it more common to be able to buy a laptop without storage and Windows license? I own multiple legal Win10 licenses. I do not want to buy another one, thank you! A year ago I'd have loved the Yoga 7 (16" AMD) (GER/US), even though you only get a 300 nits, 60 Hz, 1080p (yeah, it's 1920x1200, but it's 1080 class) display. But now, the I want the new and shiny, or a sizeable price advantage over last gen (and no, the 7735U is not new. I refuse!) What are your thoughts? What are the specs you're looking for? Do you think any of my choices are stupid? Let's talk about it! - Jhon

Summary According to AdoredTV, AMD's upcoming zen4 seems to get 128 cores max, extending lead on Intel according to the latter's presentation slides. Quotes Further expected specs 128 cores at 5nm TSMC I/O 6nm TSMC 512MB L3 12x DDR5-5200 My thoughts This is stellar. A few years ago I could only dream of a future where at least two cpu manufacturers are actually competing with each other. Let's hope the momentum keeps going! Sources

Summary An AMD Ryzen 7 7800X with 10 cores and 20 threads and Ryzen 3 7300X with 4 cores and 8 threads have been discovered in a Geekbench submission. The 7800X processor scored 2097, and 16163 points in single and multi-core Geekbench tests. In the same test, Ryzen 3 7300X scores 1984 and 7682 points. Quotes My thoughts AMD is finally going to compete in the entry level to midrange area with these parts, and I feel that is necessary to help Zen 4 sales thrive. The 10c/20t 7800X should replace the price point of the 7700X and will offer competitive performance against Intel's 13700k. While the 4c/8t 7300X could be priced appropriately to compete with the Core i3. Performance wise, the Ryzen 7 7800X is halfway between the 7700X and 7900X; while the 7300X basically matches the Ryzen 5 5600X in multithreaded performance. According to TweakTown these parts will be released in the coming weeks, supposedly after RDNA 3 launches. Also, worth mentioning is the 7700 non-X, but that might be an OEM only part (hopefully it isn't). Sources https://www.techpowerup.com/300326/amd-wakes-up-to-intels-multi-threaded-advantage-ryzen-7-7800x-a-10-core-20-thread-processor-also-readies-ryzen-3-7300x https://www.tweaktown.com/news/89152/amd-ryzen-3-7300x-cpu-teased-4-cores-and-8-threads-at-up-to-5-0ghz/index.html https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-7800x-with-10-cores-and-ryzen-3-7300x-with-4-cores-have-been-spotted https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/18237412 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/18237804

Hi, first time builder here. I'm building a workstation with the Ryzen 9 7950x and am currently trying to find an AIO cooler for it. I will be exclusively running Linux, so I'd prefer to be able to configure the fan settings while booted (Gkraken seems to be well-liked for NZXT coolers), but as long as I can do it from the BIOS that's fine as I won't be doing any gaming, just lots of code compilation and HDL synthesis. I won't be overclocking or using a discrete GPU (Zen 4 has AMD integrated graphics), but I would still like to be able to get sustained performance out of the CPU since some of my work projects take upwards of 45 min to build. AMD's website lists the NZXT Kraken X63 as a recommended cooler for the CPU, but pcpartpicker seems to think the cooler is incompatible with both my CPU and motherboard, the ASRock X670E PG Lightning. Since the zen 4's are so new I can't really seem to find info on this—what gives? Would you guys recommend a different cooler? I'm using the Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case and I'd like to keep the price for the cooler at or below ~150 USD.

Summary AMD revealed some impressive overclocking results of its own today. Using "standard liquid cooling", a 280mm AIO, the company's XOC team was able to push a Ryzen 9 7950X as high as 5.5GHz all-core and complete several benchmark runs. In total, four records now been broken by Sampson and blueleader who got a green light to share their Ryzen 9 7950X results. Quotes My thoughts This is quite impressive, as none of these records were broken using LN2 (Liquid Nitrogen). What's also impressive was the fact that there was a CPU-Z Validation at almost 5.8GHz all-core and only at 1.4v. It's a possibility that the 5.8GHz all-core overclock is a golden sample, but it could also mean Zen 4 overclocks well judging by these HWBOT results. As far as the records go, if this is what Zen 4 is capable of doing with a simple AIO CLC, I'm wondering what it's able to achieve with more exotic cooling. Sources https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-breaks-four-hwbot-world-records-with-aio-cooler https://hothardware.com/news/ryzen-7950x-zen-4-cpu-hits-impressive-overclock

Summary Today is the day that AMD has allowed reviewers to start publishing their Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 Series processor reviews. Here are some of the various reviews out in the wild, along with the various changes happening with the Zen 4 architecture. Performance Summary of 25 Reviews Courtesy of 3DCenter: AMD Press Release Slides Courtesy of AnandTech and TweakTown: From HotHardware Review "Intro": Various Video Reviews "YouTube": From TechPowerUp Review "Value & Conclusion": Quotes My thoughts I haven't had a chance to take a look at everything, which is why I'm creating this thread so people have a thread to talk about the reviews along with the various ins and outs of Zen 4. I will constantly update this OP as I find more information and others do as well. There seems to be a slew of information to take in, I will try to put as much as I can in this OP. I've had a chance to take a look at many of the reviews and my conclusion is that there's going to be a tug of war match coming soon with AMD vs Intel when Raptor Lake launches. I think overall the performance of Zen 4 is great, but I see now why they are planning to still launch 3D V-Cache products sooner rather than later. Sources "And Other Classic Written Reviews": https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-7900X-and-AMD-Ryzen-5-7600X-in-review-Back-to-the-fastest-gaming-CPU-crown-with-Raphael.657698.0.html https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryzen-9-7900x-review-retaking-the-gaming-crown-with-potent-ray-tracing-cpu-performance/ https://www.anandtech.com/show/17585/amd-zen-4-ryzen-9-7950x-and-ryzen-5-7600x-review-retaking-the-high-end https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/ryzen-7600x-and-7950x-review-zen-4-starts-off-expensive-but-impressive/ https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_zen_4_ryzen_7_7700x_and_ryzen_9_7950x_review/1 https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/luke-hill/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-ryzen-7-7700x-zen-4-review/ https://videocardz.com/138525/amd-ryzen-7000-zen4-raphael-desktop-cpu-review-roundup https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10195/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-zen-4-cpu/index.html https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10193/amd-ryzen-9-7900x-zen-4-cpu/index.html https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-ryzen-5-7600x-cpu-review https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-review-benchmarks-performance/ https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-7900x-and-7950x-cpu-review https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-review,1.html https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-review,1.html https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-review,1.html https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-review-benchmarks/ https://www.3dcenter.org/artikel/launch-analyse-amd-ryzen-7000 https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-7600x/ https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7700x/ https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7900x/ https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7950x/ https://www.techspot.com/review/2534-amd-ryzen-7600x/ https://www.techradar.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-7700x https://www.techradar.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-7950x https://www.eteknix.com/amd-ryzen-9-7900x-review/

Summary The Cinebench R20 score of an AMD Ryzen 7 7700X "Zen 4" processor (possibly engineering sample), was allegedly leaked to the web by "Extreme Player Hall," a video-format tech news published on Bili Bili, as discovered by 9550pro on Twitter. The 8-core/16-thread processor was shown scoring 773 points in the single-thread test, and 7701 points in the multi-threaded one. These numbers put it 25-30 percent faster than the current Ryzen 7 5800X. Quotes My thoughts This is quite what I was expecting as we slowly approach the 29th (more performance leaks of Zen 4 7000 series). I posted a Geekbench 5 result of an EYPC Zen 4 setup yesterday that was 17% faster in single-thread than its Zen 3 counterpart; showing some decent gains. Here we are seeing even better results with around 25% single-core performance uplift over a 5800X. Even the multi-core result is a nice uplift at 33%. This is good because here we have an Engineering Sample (or QS) without knowing the actual clocks nor cooling or voltage and it's already 23-25% faster than a 5800X in single thread at most likely stock settings. Sources https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-is-20-faster-than-ryzen-7-5800x-in-leaked-single-core-cinebench-r20-test https://www.techpowerup.com/298111/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-zen-4-cinebench-r20-score-leaked https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1KV4y1W77z Update to this story ~ Summary AMD Ryzen 7700X/7600X rumored Cinebench R23 scores are in. AMD mid-range Ryzen 7000 SKUs will score above 1900 points in ST. Multi-core benchmark results were also shared. Quotes My thoughts While this hopefully is an ES, it is most likely a QS; which means this is about as close to final performance we're going to get (meaning not much is going to be different from retail product as if it were an ES). This is where I believe they won't quite be able to surpass Raptor Lake, and are just about matching Alder Lake. The good thing though is this is only Cinebench and we need to see some other benchmarks (like gaming) before we jump to any conclusions. Because at the end of the day price to performance is what matters, so what the 7000 series will be priced at will determine how competitive it is against Alder/Raptor Lake. Sources https://www.techpowerup.com/298165/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-and-ryzen-5-7600x-cinebench-r23-single-thread-numbers-see-it-trade-blows-with-the-competition https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/ryzen_7700x_and_7600x_cinebench_r23_scores_leak_-_impressive_results/1 https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7700x-7600x-rumored-cinebench-r23-scores-are-in

(https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5vw6au/to_ryzen_reviewers/) Years ago I suggested how tech reviewers should review Zen 1 in AMD subreddit. AM5 is coming this year, let's hope the situation will be better than zen 1. Let's hope Linus and even other YouTubers like level1techs and hardware unboxed read this. Note that this post may seem like biased toward Ryzen. AMD has a marketing issue. Like gamernexus put it- if AMD only markets to the AMD subreddit where people are upvoting every emoji or vague 'jebaited' post by Radeon groups, that's not healthy. For gaming benchmark- First of all turn off vsync(tons of young youtuber still don't understand vsync). Benchmark should be done in 1080p and maybe 720p. Graphics should be ultra because it uses most amount of CPU power. Mention game version, driver version, windows and directX version. CPU focused games are singleplayer- GTA 5. total war, civ 6, Watch dogs, RDR 2 etc Note that often tech reviewers forget to benchmark multiplayer games. Reviewers should play multiplayer battlefield fortnite for a long time to measure frame time consistency and micro stutter. For multiplayer games pubg, fortnite, planetside arena, csgo rust(big raids), Arma 3 multiplayer etc, Intel's efficiency cores are better to handle micro stutter, unless it's CSGO then Ryzen is usually faster there. For popular mmo- warcraft, eve online big battles, elder scrolls online, the division 2 Intel used to win in old mmo which didn't use more than 2 cores but nowadays they lose there too. Games with massive AI- like total war warhammer with 20000 units, civilization 6, Factorio or satisfactory massive base or cities skyline 1 million population with disaster dlc on etc For destruction and physics- Destructions can often pressure CPU, like battlefield 1 destructions, teardown or red faction remastered. Fortnite, Rust, Besiege note: when you are benching lots of destruction/AI/Animation, check for visuals, it's possible some hardware or game will nerf some animation or destruction to provide better framerate and will cause inconsistency in benchmark Don't forget to config games/software properly, games like arma 3 and some old games need to be configured for Ryzen 16 24 threads and Intel efficiency cores I think Monitor gpu clock as well, because in some situation nvidia boost 3.0 will trigger and sometimes it will not, creating inconsistency, happens more often with new platform than you think Windows 11 with ReBAR/SAM on and HAGS on may give maximum performance. Windows 10 may give less performance for new platform. In some games Vulkan is better than DX12, it gives less load on cpu. **Ray Tracing, DLSS and VR Reviewers should benchmark Cyberpunk Tomb Raider with ray tracing. There are also 3dmark port royale ray tracing, bright memory, Boundary, then nvidia demos like Asteroid DLSS demo DX12 was supposed to free CPU but in many cases CPU needs bigger cache than DX11. According to HW Unboxed, Nvidia has driver overhead specially in older CPU with low IPC. 1600, 2600X and kaby lake performs badly. One of the main reason- Ray tracing and latest dx12 games need lots of cpu performance boht single and multicore DLSS and VR with ray tracing- DLSS in some occasion depends on CPU performance and encoding Cache- Games that need more cache may help AMD more. There are not many games that use Entity component system. Hardware settings xfr pbo2 or AMD-XMP or AMP whatever the name of the turbo mode is in AM5, tell tech reviewers about it, so they don't screw it up this time like with Zen 1. game mode- principled technologies used ryzen master game mode which was for threadripper and CCX. This can screw up the benchmark. Learn the settings We don't know if SMT hyper threading will be good or will it have some latency. For Zen 1 and early windows scheduler, it was recommended to turn off SMT in many open world games. Update bios, check for spectre and other bug patches(NSA leaks). Early DDR4 CPU of Intel are patched with spectre and lost 10-20% performance, specially multithreading performance is reduced. cooler- default wraith cooler, popular deepcool or hyper 212 coolers, then AIO cooler like NZXT or coolermaster Ram speed impacts on performance. Zen1 didn't even POST without specific rams. Need to check Zen4 stability with ram. benchmark the cheaper motherboard b650 if they have consistent performance. If AMD supports ram overclocking for cheap and the competition doesn't then sponsor some youtuber for budget pc builds. For APU with igpu, does having faster or more stable ram than intel help in igpu gaming? Maybe Radeon group should sponsor some youtubers or twitchers for checking the quality and consistency of AMD Link portable gaming with Zen4 encoder, or check xbox game pass streaming quality without any discrete gpu Some near future APU with zen 4 will be faster than 1050Ti or even crappy 1630. Or even the worst gpu of all time- expensive 6500XT in pciE3.0 port roflmao In Ryzen laptops there will be way more superspeed 20gbps usb. This may lead to better cheaper compatibility with external GPU. So when Zen4 laptops are coming, benchmark eGPU Overclocking speaking of cheap motherboard overclocking, try to full load the overclock for weeks and check if motherboard's VRM gets damaged. According to gamer nexus and actually hardware overclocking some cheap motherboard can't handle the pressure for a week and dies but there is no proper benchmark for that. show the perspective of purchasing different platform, who should buy ryzen or Intel? How long the platform likely to be supported with new architecture? How much you need to spend to be able to overclock? Many reviewers fail to mention these important point, they forget to mention real cost effectiveness of Ryzen for budget gamers. Can you overclock RAMs on cheaper chipset in Ryzen? Productivity Test video playbacks and h265 with 8k. Intel has quicksync which slightly benefits video encoding even when you have powerful nvidia 3080rtx Multitasking benchmark- focus on benchmarking multitasking ability specially game streaming. Game streaming sometimes need better CPU like intel efficiency cores specially when using CPU encoding and not NVENC. Benchmark with virtual machines- Nvidia doesn't want VM for Geforce. So try to benchmark a cheaper VM with Radeon and compare the setup with nvidia quadro and intel VM Power consumption Some Intel and Nvidia prebuilt setups are banned/restricted in California and some other states because of high power consumption. Ryzen Radeon may market itself as the green carbon friendly alternative to Intel and Geforce. Focus on performance per watt. Like Gamernexus said, Intel 12 gen is basically wasting money to prove you are rich, 50$ for every 1% improvement in GTA 5 vs 5800x3d. chipset- the X670-E also known as Xtreme 670- Extreme has two different parts. Benchmark if the CPU has connectivity issue with the two parts of chipset

Summary The next-generation flagship AMD EPYC Zen4 GENOA CPU has recently appeared on Geekbench 5 in a dual-socket configuration for a total of 192 cores and 384 threads. The processors were installed in an unknown Suma 65GA24 motherboard running at 3.51GHz and paired with 768GB of DDR5 memory. Performance places the processor approximately 17% ahead of an equivalently clocked 128 core EPYC Zen3 MILAN 7763 CPU in single-threaded performance. Quotes My thoughts It's nice to finally start seeing leaks regarding Zen 4 performance. Where compared to Raptor Lake there seems to be a new leak every week regarding performance in various benchmarks. I'm assuming this is happening because we're approaching the 29th, which is the livestream event AMD is hosting regarding the Zen 4 7000 series CPUs. Hopefully we'll get concrete IPC numbers then, but for now this will do. Maybe we might get a leak or two before the event. Usually this happens a few days before a revealing event, so might not be a big deal, but for the people who won't be able to watch the livestream it could prove to be useful. Anyway, it appears that the single threaded increase is around 15% as per AMD's own slides, slightly higher here. How much of that is due to higher clock speeds is yet to be confirmed. I'm not sure though if this will be enough to surpass Alder Lake much less Raptor Lake. But at least in the server market they should remain highly competitive for quite a while. Sources https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-zen-4-epyc-cpu-benchmarked-17-single-thread-performance-increase-(192-core384-thread).html https://www.techpowerup.com/298049/amd-zen-4-epyc-cpu-benchmarked-showing-a-17-single-thread-performance-increase-from-zen-3 https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-epyc-zen4-genoa-cpu-is-17-faster-than-zen3-milan-in-single-core-test https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/16798231

Summary According to Twitter leaker Greymon55, one of The Red Team's facilities has already begun mass production of the Ryzen 7000X3D, codenamed Raphael-X. The CPU would be released shortly after the Ryzen 5 7600X, Ryzen 7 7800X, Ryzen 9 7900X, and 7950X. Also, memory specialist Team Group has announced in a blurb that its new memory modules are a good match for next-gen platforms like "Intel Raptor Lake and AMD Raphael-X." What makes this particularly interesting is that AMD hasn't formally announced Raphael-X processors - which are expected to be Zen 4 architecture CPUs (Ryzen 7000 family) with 3D V-Cache technology applied. Quotes My thoughts From my understanding, according to AMD on FAD 2022, they claimed that "We are proud of what V-Cache technology is doing for us, and we're going to feature this in Ryzen 7000 series later this year". So this claim/leak is in line with AMD's own claims. I also find the Team Group "slip" interesting too because AMD hasn't officially called it Raphael-X yet. So it seems this leak is looking quite promising. Lastly, I think this is in line with PC Gamer's sentiment that the reason why they are releasing the V-Cache stuff soon is to do battle with high frequency Raptor Lake parts. As it stands the 5800X3D trades blows with an i9-12900KS. Therefore, I'm guessing that AMD might be preparing for Intel to be clocking their Raptor Lake parts to 5.8-6GHz as mentioned by PC Gamer and because of that, offering 3D V-Cache parts will contest it well. Sources https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-gaming-cpus-with-100mb-of-cache-in-mass-production-launching-this-year-rumor/ https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ryzen-7000x3d-with-100-mb-of-cache-already-planned-for-this-year.html https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-7000-series-v-cache-cpus-to-fight-an-intel-13th-gen-cpu-that-could-hit-6ghz/ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-raphaelx-ryzen-7000-teamgroup-ddr5 https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/news/ins.php?index_id=210

Summary As part of today’s AMD’s 2022 Financial Analyst Day, the company is offering a short update on their forthcoming Zen 4 CPU architecture. Addressing some post-Computex questions around IPC expectations, AMD is revealing that they expect Zen 4 to offer an 8-10% IPC uplift over Zen 3. AMD is projecting a >25% increase in performance-per-watt with Zen 4 over Zen 3 (based on desktop 16C chips running CineBench). Meanwhile the overall performance improvement stands at >35%, no doubt taking advantage of both the greater performance of the architecture per-thread, and AMD’s previously disclosed higher TDPs. Lastly, Zen 4 V-Cache chips are expected to come in the future too. Quotes My thoughts I think it's great for AMD to clear the air on the post Computex qualms. While 8-10% increase in IPC sounds underwhelming, greater than 35% overall performance improvement does not, IMO. Combine that with future V-Cache chips and Zen 4 will be a highly competitive product against Intel. Sources https://www.anandtech.com/show/17441/amd-zen-4-update-8-to-10-ipc-uplift-25-more-perfperwatt-vcache-chips-coming https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-zen-4-ryzen-7000-has-810-ipc-uplift-more-than-35-overall-performance-gain https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-provides-new-zen-4-details-and-touts-a-greater-than-25-performance-per-watt-gain/

Summary An AMD Zen 4 CPU with a 5.2GHz Boost Clock has been discovered in the OpenBenchmarking database. The Ryzen 7000 processor has eight Zen 4 cores with simultaneous multithreading. The eight-core, 16-thread portion should be the Ryzen 7 7800X, the successor to the popular Ryzen 7 5800X. It also contains a RDNA 2 iGPU running between 1,000 and 2,000 MHz. Quotes My thoughts The future is looking good on the CPU side of computing. After seeing what the 5800X3D could do a month ago, it appears AMD is not planning on slowing down despite Intel's Alder Lake interrupting AMD's game plan. If AMD can catch up on the clock speed front Intel will be in some serious trouble. And I can't imagine what would happen if they added their 3D V-Cache implementation to a Zen 4 chip (for gaming; plus clockspeed increases). Sources https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-zen-4-cpu-with-5-2-ghz-boost-and-rdna-2-igpu-surfaces.html

Summary AMD's Ryzen 7000 series CPU details leak ahead of their official reveal. A lot of information has dropped about AMD's Ryzen 7000 series, arriving through Videocardz, who has managed to grab hold of some official AMD information ahead of the company's Computex 2022 keynote. AMD confirms its Ryzen 7000 series are to launch this fall. AMD also reveals its X670 Extreme, X670 and B650 chipsets for first-gen AM5 motherboards. Quotes My thoughts It's nice to get some decent information regarding Zen 4 ahead of Computex. Tomorrow most of this info will be confirmed, aside from what is already confirmed through these leaked slides. I'm hoping that the 7000-series doesn't max out at 16 cores as suggested. It appears all the websites that are covering this story still leave a question mark as to whether or not Zen 4 will max out at 16 cores. I'm wondering if we will get any info regarding this tomorrow. As far as AM5 motherboards are concerned, it looks like Extreme motherboards are a new addition. I'm wondering what they will cost, and if or why they are necessary. It's also nice to see an iGPU being confirmed too. AMD is really checking all the boxes with this release. Autumn can't come soon enough. Sources https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000-leaked-worlds-first-5nm-desktop-cpus-15-higher-single-threaded-performance-dual-zen-4-chiplets-up-to-16-cores-rdna-2-gpu-launching-this-fall/ https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/major_ryzen_7000_zen_4_series_details_leak_ahead_of_computex_2022/1 https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reveals-its-x670-extreme-x670-and-b650-chipsets-for-first-gen-am5-motherboards https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000-desktop-series-to-offer-over-15-single-thread-uplift-launch-this-fall

Summary AMD's next-gen Zen 4-based Ryzen 7000 series CPUs could have flagship 24-core, 48-thread monster at 5.4GHz with Ryzen 9 7950X. A Chinese seller on Weibo has revealed the spec sheet of the Ryzen 7000 series, which includes a 24 core/48 thread option. Quotes My thoughts This is some very exciting news if true. Of course it's a rumor which means you should remain skeptical, as it does contradict what we have last heard from AMD. However, it does make sense considering that Raptor Lake is planning on going up to 24c. This will allow AMD to directly compete with Raptor Lake no problem. On Saturday I posted a news article regarding the possible 7800x having a 5.2GHz boost clock. It appears here that they are able to go beyond that frequency now, which means performance increases over Zen 3 are looking solid. Sources https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-could-be-developing-a-24-core-ryzen-9-7950x-cpu-with-a-tdp-of-170-w.html https://www.tweaktown.com/news/86204/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-cpu-possible-24c-48t-up-to-huge-5-4ghz-clocks/index.html Update to this story: Summary A leak from the Chinese Chiphell forums suggests that AMD’s next-gen Ryzen 9 7950X CPU will feature a boost clock of over 5.4GHz. The chip was spotted running at 5.37GHz (Windows Task Manager) in a screenshot posted over at the Chiphell forums. Quotes Sources https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-to-feature-boost-clocks-of-over-5-4ghz-all-ryzen-7000-cpus-to-boost-over-5ghz/ https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-7950X-keeps-pace-with-Alder-Lake-s-best-in-leaker-s-optimistic-clock-predictions-for-key-Raphael-SKUs.621511.0.html

Summary A purported photo from an AMD presentation in China (for local retailers and distributors) names the date, claiming that AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 series CPUs may officially go on sale on September 15th. Quotes My thoughts This is nice to see, as when AMD officially claimed Fall of 2022, that left the release date open to interpretation. As the last day of Fall is on December 21, 2022. So we could have been waiting quite some time for Zen 4 and AM5. This now means that we have a good idea that they plan on launching Zen 4 and AM5 in the beginning of Fall, which starts on September 22nd, if this September 15th date is correct (as opposed to having to wait all the way until the end of Fall). Meaning, hopefully only three more months to go and we will be able to see official benchmarks for Zen 4! Sources https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryzen-7000-cpus-to-hit-the-retail-market-on-the-15th-of-september-rumor/ https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000-desktop-cpus-am5-motherboards-to-launch-on-15th-september/ https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000-could-go-on-sale-on-september-15th https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7000-leak-release

Summary AMD today expanded its Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" desktop processor lineup with three new affordable 65W models that are designed to take the fight to Intel's expanded 13th Gen 65 W "Raptor Lake" series. Embargo lift is today and reviews are out, gaming performance looks to be quite good between all the chips (especially for their discounted prices) and temps are better than their "X" counterparts. (Tech Power Up Ryzen 5 7600 Review) (Tech Power Up Ryzen 7 7700 Review) (Guru3D Ryzen 9 7900 Review) Quotes (Tech Power Up Ryzen 5 7600 Review) (Tech Power Up Ryzen 7 7700 Review) (Guru3D Ryzen 9 7900 Review) My thoughts When Zen 4 first launched and people saw the prices of the processors, people were begging for non-X parts to be released with better pricing. At first, early leaks suggested that the non-X parts were going to be OEM only and that seemed unfortunate. However, as time progressed, it looked more likely that we were going to get the non-X parts. Here today, they finally arrive and as I suspected temps are immensely better compared to their X brothers. Also, performance is not that far off from the X parts either. AMD has a competitive stack coming up with X3D parts about to launch soon as well. Between the X and non-X parts, and the X3D parts, you will have quite some options if you decide on going Team Red. Lastly, with these non-X parts being able to be overclocked, you can quickly gain back that performance lost. Therefore, as in the past, the non-X parts will prove to be a better value; especially being coupled with a cooler. As the title of the Tech Power Up review suggests, "Affordable Zen 4 for the Masses". All we need is even better DDR5 prices and those $125 AM5 motherboards, and that will be without a doubt true. Written Review Sources https://videocardz.com/147338/amd-ryzen-7900-7700-7600-non-x-desktop-cpu-review-roundup https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_9_7900_processor_review,1.html https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7700-non-x/ https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-7600-non-x/ Video Review Sources

AMD’s Ryzen 7000 series cranked up the power draw, but had performance to match. Now that the non-X chips are out with limited power draw, did AMD accidentally play themselves – And you?

Summary Team Red will roll out three new SKUs leveraging their 3D V-Cache tech, including: the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Ryzen 9 7900X3D, and the 7950X3D. Sadly, the dual-CCD chips won’t get dedicated cache dies for each chiplet. As a result, all three V-Cache CPUs will feature the same 3D stacked L3 cache die, with the same amount of SRAM. This harkens to the Zen 1 launch when the disaggregated or chiplet architecture was first introduced. Several applications faced lag and stutters on account of the high cache latency. The dual-CCX design of the Ryzen 1000 CPUs led to unconventionally high latency in workloads that weren’t specifically optimized for them. Quotes My thoughts Thought this was an interesting report and analysis. As many of our own members of this forum made the same criticisms of the 7900X3D and 7950X3D design in another thread. According to Tom's Hardware, AMD is working with Microsoft on Windows based optimizations that will work in combination with a new AMD chipset driver; which identifies games that prefer the increased L3 cache capacity and then pins them into the CCD with the stacked cache. Games that instead prefer higher frequencies more than increased cache, will then be pinned into the bare CCD. AMD claims that the bare CCD can access the stacked L3 cache in the adjacent CCD, however this isn’t optimal and will be infrequent. The chip with the extra L3 cache will run games at a slower speed, although most games don’t operate at maximum clock speeds, thus you should still get an immense performance advantage. If this is all true, this could complicate things and the Ryzen 9 SKUs will be uncompetitive, while being no better than the 13900KS in comparison (value wise). It also means the Ryzen 9 X3D parts will be insignificantly faster than the 7800X3D, making them hard to recommend. It's still possible that productivity based workloads will be better on the Ryzen 9 X3D parts compared to the 7800X3D part. So, perhaps you get the same gaming performance as a 7800X3D but have much better productivity performance. Which I guess is AMD's intention. Although, if these Windows optimizations and profiles don't work properly, it could reduce the possible gaming performance of the 7900X3D and 7950X3D; which is not AMD's objective here. Sources https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amds-ryzen-9-7900x3d-and-7950x3d-wont-be-faster-than-the-7800x3d-in-most-games-report/

Summary Today AMD unveils its plans for Ryzen 7000 CPU series featuring brand new X3D series processors; highlighting the Ryzen 9 7950X3D, Ryzen 9 7900X3D and Ryzen 7 7800X3D. Quotes My thoughts It's great to finally get a confirmation of these parts, as these SKUs will be highly competitive with Raptor Lake. There are no prices yet being said, however they are saying that these processors will be available in February. With 21-30% higher performance than their non-3D brethren the 5800X3D, these chips will be gaming power houses. According to most recent rumors, there is supposed to be a Raptor Lake refresh coming out as well. Thus, I imagine Intel knows the X3D chips are going to be released and needs their own counter to them. However, these X3D chips will be released Q1 2023, while the Raptor Lake refresh isn't set to arrive until Q3 2023. Meaning AMD might be able to hold the gaming performance crown for quite some time. Most likely the only changes to the Raptor Lake refresh parts are going to be changes to clock speeds. Therefore, who knows if those refresh Raptor Lake parts will be enough to take back the gaming crown. Sources https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-series-coming-february-16-core-ryzen-9-7950x3d-features-144mb-cache Update Summary AMD Ryzen 7000X3D series launches February 14th 2023, Valentine’s Day. Quotes My thoughts Finally, we have a concrete launch date on these Ryzen 7000X3D CPUs. It comes out to be 34 days from today (1/11/2023), so easily another month. Hopefully, before then, we also get some pricing too; as it seems AMD has been pretty tight lipped about that since the CPUs were announced at CES. When and if pricing comes out, I will update this OP and thread to keep you all posted. Sources https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-has-a-redesigned-box-designless-oc-supportand-lower-max-temp.html https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_reveals_ryzen_7000_x3d_s_release_date_-_zen_4_with_a_gaming_boost/1 https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-sets-launch-date-for-ryzen-7000-x3d-cpus https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-series-to-launch-on-valentines-day Update #2 Summary AMD now says Ryzen 7000X3D is not launching on February 14th. AMD has just confirmed that February 14th is not the correct launch date for Ryzen 7000X3D chips. Yesterday, the company listed such a date for all the three X3D SKUs that were announced at CES, but the company has now ‘unlaunched’ its chips from this day: Quotes My thoughts This is a bit messy to be honest. I'm glad that they are still coming sometime in February, but I'm not sure why a date was published in the first place. Seems to be some serious miscommunication going on. Either way, if we get a date I will update the thread, along with prices when we get them. Sources https://videocardz.com/newz/a-heartbreaking-mistake-amd-now-says-ryzen-7000x3d-is-not-launching-on-february-14th https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-processors-not-released-on-the-14th.html https://www.extremetech.com/computing/342239-amd-flip-flops-on-ryzen-7000-x3d-launch-date https://www.eteknix.com/amd-delays-ryzen-7000x3d-feb-14th-release-date/ Update #3 Summary AMD today announced the retail channel pricing and release dates of its upcoming Ryzen 7000X3D "Zen 4" line of high-performance Socket AM5 desktop processors. Quotes My thoughts Looks like we finally got a confirmed launch date and prices for these CPUs. At the end of this month, I'm looking forward to seeing benchmarks and how much the 3D V-Cache technology benefits these CPUs compared to the 5800X3D. The initial MSRP for the 7800X3D is the same as the 5800X3D. I personally thought the prices were going to be higher, but these aren't too bad compared to the launch prices of the "X" SKUs. Sources https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-announces-pricing-and-availability-for-ryzen-7000x3d-series-processors.html https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-announces-ryzen-7000x3d-pricing-dollar449-to-dollar699-starting-feb-28th https://www.techpowerup.com/304315/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-series-prices-revealed-available-feb-28 https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/a-new-year-starts-with-new-am5-options/ba-p/582404 https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-launches-february-28th-costs-699

Summary Newegg and Amazon have the new Black Friday deals live, with the flagship AMD Ryzen 9 7950X: normally $699, down to $574, the second-best Zen 4 processor in the AMD Ryzen 9 7900X: normally $549, down to $474 while the third-best Zen 4 processor in the AMD Ryzen 7 7700X: normally $399, down to $349, leaving the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X: normally $299, down to $249. Quotes My thoughts This is a great move to better compete with Raptor/Alder Lake parts. Hopefully the price cuts stick around and are not temporary. It should also be noted that Guru3D, Videocardz and eTeknix also saw price cuts in Europe which I included in the source links. The Ryzen 9 7950X has seen a price drop of 130 Euros in a week; meaning the CPU can be had for 649 Euros. the 7900X can be spotted for 519 EUR, the Ryzen 7 7700 at 379 EUR, and the 7600 around 297 EUR. I imagine that if these price drops are being seen worldwide that perhaps they are here to stay and not temporary. Now all they need is better priced motherboards and AM5 will be a much more compelling platform to recommend. Sources https://www.tweaktown.com/news/89604/amds-new-ryzen-9-7950x-zen-4-cpu-majorly-discounted-already-now-costs-574/index.html https://www.techpowerup.com/301308/amd-ryzen-7000-series-processors-get-their-first-round-of-price-cuts-7950x-at-usd-574 https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-7000-zen-4-prices-dropping-hard-ryzen-9-7950x-for-649-euros.html https://www.hardwaretimes.com/all-amd-ryzen-7000-cpus-now-on-discount-125-off-on-the-16-core-ryzen-7-7950x/ https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000-gets-a-massive-price-cut-in-europe-7950x-now-for-just-669-eur https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000-gets-a-major-price-cut-on-newegg-ryzen-9-7950x-now-at-574 https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7000-zen-4-cpus-price-cuts-compete-raptor-lake https://www.eteknix.com/amd-ryzen-7000-price-cuts-might-landing-europe/ https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-7000-price-cuts Update According to AMD Germany, these discounts are only for Black Friday Summary Sources https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Ryzen-7-7700X-CPU-279079/News/Verwirrung-um-Preissenkungen-1407899/

Summary There will indeed be three new SKUs added to the Zen 4 7000 series lineup; the 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 7600, the 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 7700, and the 12-core/24-thread Ryzen 9 7900 but no 16-core part. All three SKUs have their TDP rated at 65 W, which means that their PIB (processor in box) retail packages will include a stock cooling solution. Quotes My thoughts I see this as a clever move by AMD to release these processors -- as you get a discount, they will run much cooler than their "X" counterparts, and performance will probably be not too far off from their "X" siblings either. Only problem is, as Guru3D points out with their chart, is that current prices of the "X" SKUs still have heavy discounts from Black Friday/Cyber Monday. Videocardz also adds that $20-30 more gets you an "X" SKU, therefore it may be hard to sell these non-X SKUs. Unless of course AMD stops discounting the "X" SKUs and they go back to MSRP; which then becomes a conundrum in itself. Supposedly AMD will announce these non-X CPUs officially at CES 2023, with embargo lifting on the 9th of January. It will be interesting to see the performance delta between the non-X parts and X parts, but I'm mostly interested in seeing the temperature differences. Sources https://www.techpowerup.com/302319/amd-ryzen-7000-non-x-processor-skus-confirmed-with-65w-tdp-boxed-coolers https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7900-7700-7600-cpu-pricing-and-specifications-have-been-confirmed https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-790077007600-cpu-pricing-and-specifications-leak.html

Summary Credible leaker @chi11eddog (whose track record has been excellent thus far) has recently shared some details about the AMD Storm Peak platform. This platform will be the foundation for the Ryzen Threadripper 7000 Pro and non-Pro CPUs, which are rumored to release in September 2023 (Q3 2023). Quotes My thoughts HEDT is shaping up to be quite intriguing this go-around. With Intel launching their own Sapphire Rapids processors soon; competition is looking to be tough this upcoming new year. Seems AMD might have a leg up, being that Sapphire Rapids will most likely not be able to overclock, while Storm Peak will (at least in the non-PRO variant). This is a rumor though, and information is subject to change. As we are still quite some time before Ryzen Threadripper 7000 series is expected to launch. Therefore from now, until then, much more information will be revealed and as a result will also be revised. On December 6th, Intel posted to their Twitter that Intel’s new workstation processors are "Coming Soon". So in the mean time Sapphire Rapids will be competing with AMD's previous gen Threadripper, so in that case Intel might have the advantage by releasing their HEDT products first. It should be noted though that Intel's highest core SKU in the stack tops out at 56-core/112-thread; therefore in core count alone, AMD has Intel one-upped. Sources https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-7000-cpu-specs-leak-out-up-to-96-cores-128-pcie-5-0-lanes-and-8-channel-ddr5-memory-report/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/amd-ryzen-threadripper-7000-cpus-will-reportedly-launch-in-september-2023/ https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rumor-amd-ryzen-threadripper-7000-reportedly-launching-september-2023.html https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-threadripper-7000-reportedly-launching-in-september-2023

Budget: USD ~$2000 Country: USA Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mainly play games (Destiny 2 and F1 22) and occasionally edit videos captured from PC, Steam, & Playstation. Other details: PCPartPicker List I'm planning to buy everything within a 1-month window sometime between mid-December to January. I plan to reuse my current Define R5 as the case. My main concerns are the cpu, gpu, & mobo; the rest of the parts are preference (and subject to change if I can come across something cheaper or on sale). Are the R7 7700X & B650E mobo suited for the use case I have, or is it more practical to spend extra on an R9 7900X & X670 (or X670E)? I dont know if theres a tl;dr article that highlights the use case scenarios specific to which motherboard platform (i.e. if you plan to do X, Y, & Z, choose cpu A with mobo B). Any suggestions about which parts I should change?

Hey all, hoping you guys can help me from pulling my hair out with this. If anything I hope I can be that one post someone with this same issue five years from now stumbles upon. So I built this my new rig back in December and only recently got off my lazy bum to set up my VR setup. Trouble is, I can't seem to play VR (at least Beat Saber) for more than about 20 minutes at a time before ALL my USB devices drop out and they don't reconnect. When the dropouts occur, I see a small spike in CPU usage (from ~12% to ~30%) for about a second and my GPU gets pinned to 99-100%. Since none of my USB devices work, I have to hard reboot via holding down the power button. Edit: I forgot to initially mention that this ONLY happens during VR. I don't buy newer games since they don't appeal to me so I don't believe I have anything super demanding to try out, but I did run Cinebench and 3DMark once I built the machine for the stress test and it passed them both. Specs: AMD Ryzen 7 7700x AsRock Steel Legend X670E (BIOS 1.18, latest) GSkill Flare X5 32GB (2x16) 6000MHz EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 KO Ultra Gaming 6GB Elgato HD60Pro SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB via Gen 5 Slot (boot and storage) Samsung 860 EVO (storage) 2x Western Digital Caviar Blue (storage) Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit SeaSonic Focus PX-850 80 Plus Platinum USB Devices: Akko 5075, Logitech G502, Blue Snowball, Elgato StreamDeck, two USB cables at the ready for controllers (controllers not connected unless I'm actively using them) VR Setup: Oculus Rift (2x 6ft HDMI extension + 10ft USB extension), 3 sensors (two with 10ft USB extension) Troubleshooting: Removing Beat Saber Mods Updating chipset drivers Updating GPU drivers Reinstalling SteamVR Reinstalling Oculus Disabling iGPU (I had this enabled because I use triple monitors so I can keep the RIft connected at all times instead of unplugging a monitor when I wanted to use it) Bare minimum setup (full rig, keyboard, mouse, one monitor, VR setup) Disabling PBO Disabling EXPO Reinstalled Windows Single stick of RAM (drops out in 10 minutes instead, also only able to try one stick, see below) The only thing that has worked for me is when I had reconnected my old machine (3770k, 16GB RAM, same 2060) and I had one sensor drop out for a split second in an hour and a half of testing and I had no other issues. Unfortunately I can't try any other troubleshooting since as I was replacing the single stick of RAM, the clip to hold it in broke, and I more than likely ruined my chances at getting an RMA through AsRock (I had gotten a tech to send me the link yesterday but I hadn't filled it out as I wanted some last-ditch troubleshooting). So what do you all think it could be? I'll be sure to update if (MASSIVE "if") AsRock accepts my RMA now and/or a new board fixes the issue.

Summary HD-Tecnologia have leaked new data from the confidential AMD Ryzen 7000X3D review guide, showcasing the gaming performance of AMD's 3D V-Cache technology on their flagship 16-core Zen 4 processor design. The leak includes data that shows the flagship Ryzen 9 7950X3D model tested against the Core i9-13900K with both Radeon RX 7900 XTX and NVIDIA RTX 4090 GPUs. For those that can't wait until next week's reviews, this gives a glimpse of what to expect, at least based on the games tested by AMD. Quotes My thoughts This is about what I expected of the 3D V-Cache parts from Zen 4. I also think something to keep in mind is these results are from testing done directly by AMD, therefore, they are probably going to be the best case scenario. There are obviously some promising results in certain games, however, on average, the results aren't spectacular. I think this also goes to show how fast of a CPU the 13900k is, considering this flagship halo tier CPU coming from AMD only bests it by 5.6% on average. I know some people were expecting more, and maybe we will see that come embargo lift from some other independent reviewers. For now though, these results aren't too amazing. I'm wondering what independent reviewers are going to say if their results are similar. Don't get me wrong, results of up to 27% faster than the 13900k or 41% faster than the standard 7950X are nothing to scoff at. However, these results don't seem to be frequent, at least in this particular testing suite. Nonetheless, official launch is next week, so I will wait until then before making any immediate conclusions. Sources https://www.hd-tecnologia.com/segun-amd-el-ryzen-9-7950x3d-es-6-mas-rapido-que-el-i9-13900k-y-16-mas-rapido-que-el-ryzen-9-7950x-en-juegos/ https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/leaked_amd_review_guide_reveals_amd_s_ryzen_9_7950x3d_s_gaming_performance/1 https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-is-6-faster-in-gaming-than-core-i9-13900k-according-to-leaked-amd-review-guide https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-is-6-faster-in-gaming-than-core-i9-13900k.html https://www.techpowerup.com/305181/amds-reviewers-guide-for-the-ryzen-9-7950x3d-leaks Update Official Benchmarks and Reviews for the 7950X3D are live ~ Summary Today, AMD lifts the embargo on their Ryzen 7000X3D series. AMD delivers its second-generation 3D V-Cache processors and we start out by testing the Ryzen 9 "Zen 4" 7950X3D CPU. Quotes TweakTown TechPowerUp My thoughts I think this is a good showing for AMD, as it readily trades blows with the 13900K and 13900KS. There are also many games where it clearly takes the lead. I think the scheduler needs some work, and I think in that regard the 7800X3D will probably be better without too much issues regarding CCDs. Sources https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10357/amd-ryzen-9-zen-4-7950x3d-cpu/index.html https://videocardz.com/150677/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-desktop-cpu-review-roundup https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d/ Video Reviews: