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I currently have a homebrew Windows 10 PC running a Zen 3 CPU and an NVIDIA 2080. My current setup works fine, but I'm wondering if I upgraded to the Zen 5 CPU (for the extra processors and the bigger cache), which uses a Radeon graphics subsystem, would that cause problems with the NVIDIA card? Would it be a pain to configure, since I don't need two graphics systems (and I like the NVIDIA card fine)? Should I use a different upgrade path? The mb is an AORUS X570, if that matters.

Threadripper upended the HEDT market when it released, but now it seems the more expensive Threadripper PRO is here to take over. Is AMD making a mistake, or is enthusiast HEDT simply obsolete?

AMD’s EPYC forms the basis for Threadripper, and with Zen 3, it’s not even a fair fight with Intel anymore. How can Intel turn this around, and can AMD keep it going?

According to Tom's hardware, AMD has it's Zen 3 desktop APUs under wraps Untill a chinese ebay seller started selling an Ryzen 3 5300G engineering sample, here's the ebay link for proof but It is currently out of stock. Besides that, the report goes on to say that of course those chips are based on the TSMC 7nm like the other predecessors from the 5600X to the 5950X and: but of course without AMD's confirmation, we can't actually tell whenever this chip will actually be launched either to the market or OEMs or as a Ryzen 3 pro 5350G, just like the Zen 2 APUs For the APU Performance, the seller seems to have done a brief review (https://youtu.be/P1YthiKLsJI) of this engineering sample but in summary, One of the games he tested with this APU, Battlefield V gives around 40-50 FPS at 1080p low settings, which is an improvement over last gen so far and the cpu itself is slightly more powerful than the Ryzen 3 3300x with around a 1-2% margin and with a total of 2985.12 in CPU-Z multi threading benchmark but that's just the tip of the iceberg so far. Let's not forget that availability matters too, if those APUs manage to launch to the market, it'll most likely be out of stock earlier Summary The Ryzen 3 5300G was leaked but it is still in engineering sample, an eBay seller started selling one of these engineering samples and now they are out of stock, no confirmation from AMD so far, Performance on the table seems to be great but official pricing or launch has to follow in order to tell and while it beats the Ryzen 3 3300X CPU, it is so slightly with around 1-2% margin. Also gaming performance for an APU only does seem promising so far. Quotes My thoughts I'm just hoping that if this is true and If AMD actually launches these APUs at a good price to the market and the CPUs/GPUs shortages are gone, I think this is going to be a really great budget APU for budget gamers who are looking to build an APU based PC in 2021 or so or have a budget CPU with a great dedicated GPU. This should be really cool alltho AMD should have just launched Ryzen 3 Zen 3 CPUs rather than APU but assuming it launches in the market, that's the right step of the direction, especially again for budget gamers. Sources https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3-5300g-zen-3-cezanne-apu-1080p-gaming https://www.pcgamer.com/unreleased-amd-ryzen-3-5300g-chip-pops-up-on-ebay-for-dollar177/ https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-3-5300g-cezanne-desktop-apu-spotted-on-ebay I'll edit this post if I find more sources

Both price are a bit unexpected in my country, Malaysia. Ryzen 9 5900x is $863 Or Ryzen 9 3950x is $722 12 cores or 16 core, my case is p360a and has bad coolers compatibility too. Any cooler recommendations to thses processors. Which proccesor would you choose?

I've been trying to search for motherboards that may be revised so new out of the box they could support ryzen 5000 but every product I find says it will need a bios update. Hasn't any manufacturer made a motherboard by now that can support it out of the box? It doesn't seem very good for sales if every motherboard requires buying a zen 2 cpu in order to update the bios so you can install a zen 3 cpu when we are a year into the generation already.

Hey guys, this is my first post ever so I hope I'm doing everything right I only have one question that I haven't been able to figure out yet, so I hope some of you can help me through this. I currently own a MSI B450-A Pro Motherboard and a Ryzen 5 2400g, paired with a RX 570 (soon to be replaced by a GTX 1070) but that's not really of importance. Now I plan to upgrade my CPU since it's only a 4 core processor and it's not up to snuff with the games and tasks that I perform. So I laid my eyes on the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X which is a 3rd Gen Zen CPU, which originally wasn't made for the B450 Mainboards. When AMD decided to still support the B450's a lot of BIOS Updates were rolling out to support the new Zen technology, but my mainboard was left in the dust back then. So here's the thing: MSI rolled out another BIOS update for my Mainboard (released 2022-01-26) which now includes AMD ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.5. Does that mean that it now supports Gen 3? The version beforehand was AMD AGESA ComboAm4PI 1.0.0.6 which to my knowledge didn't support it. And because I have limited knowledge about what this means I come to you for advice. I would really appreciate the help :) This is my current Motherboard that I'm talking about: https://de.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-A-PRO Thanks in advance and I hope you have a great week! :D

Country: Philippines CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX Memory: Team T-FORCE DELTA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Storage: Corsair MP400 1 TB M.2-2280 Hi there! Hope that someone can help me with this. I recently built my own 1st CPU and knew that a BIOS update would be required in order to run the CPU that I bought together with the MB. The downside is that the MB doesn't have a BIOS Flashback button and when I booted the system up, it's not communicating with one another (even just to load the BIOS setup screen). The reason I asked here is because Linus just released a video using the same MB and CPU Series that I'm using but did not cover the part where a BIOS update was done in order to run the system (or he might just have skipped it in the vid, IDK). With that, does it mean that the only way is to find a Ryzen 4000 or 3000 Series first, update the BIOS, then install the CPU that I bought? My parts list is below:

Hi all. I am asking this for a friend who's into chia (a "green" crytocurrency) farming. He has been complaining this to me for over 6 months. As a 5950X owner, I have to know the answer too. Symptoms: When more than 4 HDDs are connected to the back panel USB ports, under heavy I/O loads, HDDs tend to disconnect frequently and randomly. Replugging does not help at all. Only a power cycle would fix this. Macbook pro 2015 on the other hand, can handle these. Mining rig setup: MoBo: ASUS ROG X570i strix or something, with 4 SATA ports, one PCIe 4.0 x16 slot (used by his RTX 3060), and about 10 USB ports (front and back). CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X with noctua NH-U12 RAM: some non ECC 2x32GB 3600MHz CL14 or something like that OS: Windows 10 HDDs: consumer grade HDDs configured in JBOD. WD Elements, etc. No NAS drives. PSU: 1000W something, shouldn't be an issue. What had been done to troubleshoot: 1. Start from the physical level. Macbook pro can handle these, poroving no power issue or USB cables/hubs issues. 2. Data level. I have a theory about excessive USB latency when so many HDDs are connected through USB hubs. My friend however dismissed this theory. 3. Also data level. My bandwidth theory was also dismissed which he did not specify why. I learned from the Intel chipset diagram that all USB ports in a single controller share 5 or 10 GB/s (USB 3.2 gen 1 or 2). All 3 USB controllers on X570 chipset share PCIe 4.0 x4 (about 64 Gbit/s) with other peripherals like SATA drives, the wifi module, Gigabit Ethernet, etc. 4. BIOS. After the AGESA 1.2.2.0b update and the subsequent updates, the issue did not go away. Switching PCIe slot to Gen 3 did not help either. 5. OS. Windows 10 updated to the newest. Although I urged him to try doing the same thing on ubuntu, he found multiple excuses such as "not having a USB flash drive" or "my other programs don't run on ubuntu" or "I don't have time for this". 6. Back to CPU: he watched a Taiwanese youtuber who investegated an FCLK frequency issue. Basically they claimed that AMD cheaped out on the I/O die and the FCLK frequency does not meet expection, accompanied by poping and crackling audio when overclocked. This is the most probable theory so far. 7. I suggested that he contact ASUS and AMD technical support separately and work with their engineers, because he might have got a faulty CPU or mobo. This advice of course was also dismissed because he doesn't want to RMA (losing chia farming time). 8. I also suggested that he uses SATA ports and/or buy an HBA card like an LSI 9200-8i/16i with miniSAS to SATA fanout cables, like a normal person, which he refused. His excuses were "I don't have room for these HDDs" "SATA drive enclosures are too expensive in Canada" (he spent $500 on a 4K monitor). 9. "Like a normal person" triggered him. He argues that plugging 20 HDDs into a single motherboard via SATA to USB adapter is a basic need, which AMD should certainly solve it a long time ago. He continued to argue that alder lake is much more mature than Zen 3 and much more like a finished product (which may be true), and he accused me of being an AMD fan boy (which is certainly untrue). I explained that I did not defend AMD without reason (like a fan boy), instead I was pointing out that he was getting frustrated, but unwilling to find a fix or workaround. 10. He continued to compare his way of attaching 20 HDDs via USB instead of SATA/SAS, to me being gay, which I think it's incredibly offensive, because he could choose to plug SATA drives using SATA/miniSAS cables (like they are intended) or use his unorthodox SATA-USB method, but me being gay is certainly not a choice. 11. So things escalated very quickly and it turned into a nasty personal attack which focused on my personality and my sexuality, which I would rather not bother you with details. Thank you for reading all of this.

For my new Ryzen Zen 3 system I am set on buying Crucial Ballistix RGB white DDR4-3600 CL16-18-18-38 DIMMs, with 32 GiB in total (if I can find them in stock -_-). However since the 16 GiB sticks (BL16G36C16U4WL) are reportedly now always single rank (since they use 2 GiB Micron chips rather than 1 GiB ones) I was wondering whether it is actually better to use 4x8 GiB instead of 2x16 GiB in this case for Zen 3. As this would give you 4x single rank, i.e. 256 bit bandwidth in total, compared to 2x single rank with 128 bit in total (assuming I am correct here). I am leaning towards 4x8 GiB - as this would also look nicer RGB-wise - though I think the performance difference might still be just negligible and come may be at the cost of other troubles due to having 4 sticks instead of 2 (i.e. 2 more points of failure, sort of).

I want to get a 5800x with a GIGABYTE X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI. I understand that the MB may need a bios update. Do I need a Zen 2 Cpu to update the bios? or can I do it with the new one or without a cpu at all?

Hi! After upgrading my system to Zen 3 recently, several of my games (including GTA V and Arma 3) run for 5-10 minutes before crashing, returning the error code 0xc0000005. My specs are: Last month, I upgraded the mainboard, RAM, CPU, and M.2 SSD to the mentioned specs. I did a complete clean install of Windows on the new M.2 drive and formatted the Crucial SSD (my former boot drive). I kept the data on my other two hard drives. What I tried so far: None of these solved the crashing issues. The PC otherwise runs fine, didn't have any problems running any other software. I have attached the Arma 3 error code (sorry for the german language). I don't know what else to do, so if any of you has an idea, that would be much appreciated

Pcpartpicker says that The Zen 3 CPU can't handle the voltage on the DDR4 4000 memory. Does this really matter? Will I have to under volt the ram or is it safe to go over? Please let me know. Thanks. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MarleyMarz/saved/Y2kQ6h#

Budget (including currency): $2000.00 (US) Country: Untied States Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Cyberpunk 2077, Half Life Alyx, Adobe Creative Cloud Suite Other details: Peripherals will be spread across two neighboring desks (image attached). These include: Samsung 34-Inch CJ791 curved monitor Samsung 65" 8K TV external 12TB HDD Two Kensington fingerprint readers HP Deskjet 1112 printer Canon CanoScan Lide 400 scanner Cooler Master SK621 60% Keyboard (RGB) Logitech Hero Sensor wired mouse (RBG) Logitech G Pro keyboard (RGB) Logitech M705 wireless mouse Logitech K400 keyboard/touchpad Logitech T650 touchpad Logitech BRIO Ultra HD 4K Webcam Logitech G930 wireless gaming headset Vantek external blue-ray RW drive 2x Anker USB 3.0 desk hubs Microsoft Xbox One wireless controller My new build [1] will have a 850-watt PSU so I'm hoping this will this be enough to avoid any sort of power issues between my many peripherals while multitasking and/or occasional overclocking. I do intend to get a VR headset at some point late next year. I am wanting to remove the top two front facing fans of the Master Cooler case and install the radiator. Will the radiator (two 120mm fans) and 3rd remaining case fan (120mm) fit together? Has anyone done something like this? I chose a mobo with Flashback for convenience. I chose a 2tb main SSD to boot Windows, use local Google drive files, and launch a few games quickly. I will get a 2nd M.2 for an expanded game library later. I haven't bought the GFX card yet. I plan to build the PC without it, update the BIOS with Flashback button, install Windows, then install the GPU later. Hopefully this plan will work? The GFX card and Samsung monitor both have displayport 1.4; also, the GFX card and 8K TV both have HDMI 2.0. So I hope to utilize these new interfaces. Will I be able to have an extended display setup between these two displays? I plan to play 1440p games on the curved monitor and play 4k games on the TV (not simultaneously). Given my PC partpicker list, does anyone foresee issues regarding e.g., BIOS update strategy, display playback, power consumption, RGB/ARGB synchronization, VR, hardware compatibility? Also, constructive criticism is welcome. References: https://laptopmag.com/amp/reviews/laptops/hp-envy-touchsmart-15 https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Charging-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B07MKPP1W4 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RnLzvf

Hello there, I have bought a Ryzen 5 5600X CPU and a 3Fan Gigabyte RTX 3070 Eagle GPU. I was just wondering if this combination would work on the mATX ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS motherboard. Thanks for all responses, Luke

Hey good people of this forum, I have a question regarding amd and the Chinese version of their cpus. I wanted to get r5 5600x for my new pc. But the seller I am going to get it from sells the Chinese version of those chips. So I my question is simple, are the Chinese chips as good as typical ones?

Summary IVA Computer Hardware Group (via Twitter user HXL) is reportedly selling an engineering sample of AMD's forthcoming Zen 3 (Cezanne) APUs on Weixin. The seller isn't absolutely certain of the exact model, but it could be the Ryzen 7 5700G or Ryzen 7 5750G. Quotes My thoughts Well, this is interesting that being said it seems likely these will launch next week at CES. (Also are these too many pics?) Sources https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/amd-ryzen-7-5700g-zen-3-cezanne-apu-specifications-benchmarks

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Two entries of the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X have been spotted on the Geekbench database. One of these entries shows the AMD processor was running on an iMac Pro and it was clocked at 6.0GHz, which is quite the impressive figure. The Geekbench database entry identifies this system an as "Acidantheria Mac," which originates from a former Hackintosh outfit called OpenCore Computer. Source 1: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/4190448 Source 2: https://hothardware.com/news/ryzen-9-5950x-hackintosh-score-geekbench Source 3: https://www.techpowerup.com/273426/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-16-core-zen-3-processor-overclocked-to-6-ghz-and-geekbenched Source 4: https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-running-on-imac-pro-overclocked-to-6-0ghz-spotted-on-geekbench/ There seems to be a mixed bag of opinions on this entry. Whether it is legitimate, and simply an extreme overclocking result / entry with exotic cooling; or not legit and perhaps an error entirely. Either way, it is interesting stuff as it means at the very least there is a possibility of better overclocking results on Air/Water with Zen 3 and the upcoming 5000-series. Something important to note, is that apparently the current LN2 record for a 3900X is 5.65GHz, therefore surpassing that by 300-400MHz is still quite an impressive feat (even if on exotic cooling).

I have seen some pictures of a Romanian retailer and a "Ryzen 5 3600 AF" is that a fake news?

Here is my build. It´s a dual system in 1 case based on AMD Zen 3. I considered what ever to go air or watercooling. But in the end desidet to go for air. So it´s all aircooled. Also sorry the blurry pictures, my phone sucks. System 1 (ATX) spec: CPU: Ryzen 9 5950X (if a 5950X3D ever comes out, i considering to shift to that) CPU Cooling: Noctua NH-D15 with a 140 MM and a 120 MM Noctua IPPC 3000 RPM fans and Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme. Mohterboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 Ram: G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL SILVER 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 Samsubng B-DIE GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 ULTRA GAMING 10 GB (might replace it with RTX 4080) Storage: Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB and a 2 TB + WD Gold Enterprise-Class HDD 14 TB System 2 (Mini-ATX) CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X CPU cooling: Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 (replaced the stock brown fan with a ditto chromax black fan) Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme paste Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING Ram: G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 Samsubng B-DIE GPU: ASUS GTX 1650 with Low Profile cooler. Storage: Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB + Crucial MX300 2 TB sata SSD + WD RED 4 TB HDD (sata SSD and HDD is left overs from my old system) adicional spec: PSU: Phanteks Revolt X 1200W (this drives bofh systems) Case: Phanteks Enthoo 719/Luxe 2 BLACK Case fans: lian li sl120 black (fan speed are controlled to fan controllers, while RGB are connected to the original controller box) Fan controller: 2 x Aquacomputer Aquaero 6 XT (all fans are connected to these controller and no one to motherboard. That means cpu cooler fans and case fans) Nvme SSD cooler: 3 x ICYBOX IB-M2HSF-703 with fan. So here are my system in pictures and again sorry the blurry image. So this is my current build and going directly from a X58 system to this.

witch of those cases(asus tuf gt501 or Corsair Graphite 780T) is better i am not planning to use liquid cooling my motherboard is either b550 aorus pro or b550 aorus elite or b550 tomahawk with a amd 5600x and a Noctua NH-D15

Disclaimer: I am posting this in the tech news category as this is related to the recent Zen 3 Launch, Linus and Luke has nudged the topic in the most recent WAN show 06/11/20 but in my opinion, there is more to it. Zen 3 has launched and you're after a new cpu you probably have seen at least several benchmarks by different tech youtubers and news outlets by now. Some of them show new ryzens beating intel by quite a margin, and some of them put them on par with i9-10900k and ever slower intel SKUs. This has been addressed by LTT in the latest WAN show episode. Linus attributes the discrepancies in reviews to the RAM configurations used for testing, but there is one more factor at play here. Uh... is our Ryzen 5000 Review WRONG?? - WAN Show November 6 , 2020 Some reviewers are still using rtx 2080 ti or using 3080 but testing on 1080p ultra settings. One would think that it should not matter much for 1080p testing, right? Not quite. If we'll look at 1% and 0.1% low performance, on this chart below (Gamers Nexus 5600x review) we can spot that all new Ryzens are performing better than i9-10900k on average, yet Intel still has better lows: This appears to be the case across many games, the reason Ryzen comes out on top is that above test is done on 1080p medium, not ultra. Anandtech included results for various settings and resolutions which is a helpful example: F1 2019 768p ultra low, new Ryzens stomp intel into the ground, same game on 1080p ultra and... how come it's so blue at the top of the chart? Conclusion: It occurs to me that new Ryzens have much higher performance ceiling than we thought, the reason why reviews end up being so different is the unexpected GPU bottleneck. When new Zen 3 CPUs and Intel 10th gen are limited by a GPU on the top end, Intel comes out on top due to better low frame performance. When there is no (or lesser) limit imposed by GPU, even ryzen 5 5600x beats i9-10900k in the average FPS. This is especially visible in CS:GO benchmarks which is one of the least GPU intensive titles. It looks like low frame performance improves for Zen 3 CPUs by a mile, with a faster RAM kit. That's why in LTT review, 1% low fps results look to be on par with Intel, as they have used 3600Mhz CL14 kit, contrary to multiple reviewers that are using 3200Mhz kits. Sources -Wan show -Gamers Nexus 5600x review -Anandtech review -My own reflections after watching/reading bazillion reviews

Summary kind of long. someone please make a tldr in comments So the benchmarks are out. AMD Ryzen Zen 3 vs Intel 11th gen rocket lake is the big questions for CPUs in the next 6-12 months. luckily Intel was leaked its 8 core option for rocket lake on userbenchmark.com for all to see. AMD followed up to this by releasing 6 reviewer samples onto userbenchmark. when comparing an i9 10850k, which is a slightly modified i9 10900k used to meet supply therefore the i9 $700 dollar price tag doesn't apply here, to a Ryzen 5800x, which is AMD's 8 core chip meant at challenging the i7 10700k for around 100 more than an i7 and is $10 cheaper than an I9 10850k, the test results came out as followed: Quotes My thoughts These results have only grown my interest in 11th gen rocket lake. first a look at multicore performance a look at the graphs shows AMD and Intel's architecture changes. AMD has moved away from more cores to better cores with keeping the same amount of cores the same and intel has the better cores at a less cores. even 8 cores is only -5% compared to AMD's 5950x 16 core CPU. AMD's move to place a higher price point for these chips might backfire. If intel can get the marketing right and place their chips at $400, AMD will have to make a mover other than a simple XT variant. Alder lake also plans to fix intel's issue with only 8 cores by moving to 10nm and a LGA 1700. AMD Zen 4 doesn't look like its coming any time soon and the CPU wars may flip. 2021 will be the next socket change for both teams. without motherboard saving both blue and red fans will have to pick their new CPU and motherboard. if intel can get the better option out there by the flip many red computers could go blue and their motherboards will follow. Enough about marketing and the future of the companies your just here for the fancy graphs. despite being called user benchmark it is hard to compare and contrast many CPU at the same time in a user friendly way. Data compiled by Doubble Charts.mp4 here is each chart individually In my opinion buy your board. Ryzen 5000 seem equally matched but price could change everything. just keep on waiting to see if you have above zen 1 or 7th gen. if your below 6th gen or using an old chip from amd this will be a great time to upgrade. if you also have an am4 or lga 1200 with support chipset give these chips a look. who knows. alder lake is around the corner with aging PCs it could take AMD's crown for best multithreaded performance. 2021 is when the standards switch so if your pc is getting to the 4-6 year range consider both teams chips in 2021. for anything older ryzen 5000 or rocket lake could be a fit for you Sources https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-10850K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X/m1255865vs4085 https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-0000-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X/m1341265vs4085

Budget (including currency): 550 - 700 zł (~$120-$150) Country: Poland Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Content creation, rendering, ~24/7 up time + gaming Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Hi! I'm building a conten creation rig, but I'm stuck selecting the desired power supply. The most power hungry elements are AMD Ryzen 9 5950X and Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti (I know there are better options but I have it already). They are going to be overclocked. Additionally there will be 6 140mm fans (including CPU cooler), M.2 NV Me SSD, 2x HDD and two small RGB strips. I was thinking about 650W PSU (Corsair RMx 650W 80 Plus Gold) but online calculators (seasonic, be quiet!) suggest that my system will use around 777W, which means 1000W PSU. What should I get? Thank you in advance.