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  1. I have 4 idential RAM sticks in my system, the only difference being the color of the heat spreader with (2 set bought at the same time in the same set. CMK16GX4M2B3000C15). When I have them all installed I get memory errors (Prime95) but when I just install 2 DIMMs at a time I have no errors. The fact that they independently work with no errors tells me that there are not hardware problems, but I cant figure out why when I have them all installed I do have problems. I do have the clock speed and timings dialed back to 2666, 16-18-18-35 and 1.4v in the 4 DIMM configuration. Do I need to lower the speed or loosen the timings more? Motherboard: ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING Processor: AMD R5-2600
  2. I'm undecided whether to buy which 16GB RAM Kit. I'm going to pair it with an Ryzen 3600 or 3300x. The options are: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory CAS Latency 16, Timings 16-18-18-36 69,90€ ~ 76,65$ or G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory CAS Latency 19, Timings 19-20-20-40 71.90€ ~ 78,84$ Both are the cheapest RAM Kits at their Speeds in Germany. Which should i choose and why? From looking it up I only found some people saying that you should first look at the speed and then at the CAS-Latency when comparing kits of the same speeds. But that seems too generalized for me. Thank you in advance.
  3. Hello, Today I decided to open up my Asus R510VX to clean it up as it was heating a lot and I noticed my RAM was soldered on the MB. I searched on the web the text that was written on it and found it was an 8GB 2133Mhz with 16-16-16 timings. I thought about upgrading to 16GB since I have a slot open and I can only find CL15 timings. Is it ok to mix them?
  4. Hi For a couple of weeks now I've been at it overclocking my ram. I am at the point where I've taken some steps back and am trying a different approach. I can't seem to find an up to date guide on the OC importance order for memory timings, out of everything I read I understand that the order is: CL tRP tRAS tRCD Is this accurate? Also does DDR4 15-18-19-32 3600mhz look better than 17-20-20-38 3800mhz? I'm still testing the latter and currently found the lowest stable to be CL of 17, next up should I try to lower tRP first or tRCD? On one hand I see Luke saying in a 3 year old video that in theory CL/ram speed is the important formula, so 15/1800 is better than 17/1900, issue is that I'm not even done lowering the 3800 OC timings and I notice better benchmarks on 3800's current stable timing values... Also I got a voltage of 1.36 set > my msi B450 mortar max sets/reports it set to 1.38v so I assume that's a real setting and won't up the voltage since I wanna be safe, but I increased the timings a lot to become stable for now. Extra details to my OC journey: I was stable in memtest86 for nights/ more than 7-8h, past 8-9 back to back tests multiple times while working on the 3600 timings, made the mistake to go into secondary timings one by one, got it so weirdly unstable that not even 16-19-19-36 (original XMP is 3600 16-19-19-39) perhaps it had to do with memory training/ how motherboard set some secondary timings automatically while I was messing with some of them but not all since dram calc seems unreliable for me. So after a couple bios sets/ resets and some more memtest86 from square 0 I went a night of testing the ram in memtest86 at XMP profile values, which passed (still there's a small buggy monster inside my brain that wispers I'm not 100% sure the ram's not broken after that wierd all of a sudden not stable by reverting back over and over again to previously deemed stable timings due to nights of memtest error free passes) But RAM doesn't all of a sudden error out in memtest like first/second pass consistency then consistently pass multiple passes without errors? As you can see I've got a lot of uncertainties on my mind... but the journey continues, if it's bad RAM at least I'll see it fail again now while tightening timings than have it fail in windows (which it never did since I'm doing this, I only modify then test in memtest86).
  5. Hi guys! I am unsure about overclocking RAM and would like to ask for some opinions on it. TLDR: Bolded the questions that I have, sorry for the wall of text... I recently upgraded my pc, more specifically got a Ryzen 5 3600, 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws V Black 3600mhz (F4-3600C16-16GVKC and chip type Hynix DJR) and a MSI B450 Mortar max. I reused my PSU and GPU and overclocked CPU to 4.3Ghz all cores @1.25V (I am going for daily stability while being safe, online people say more than 1.25V on CPU will break it eventually, so even though I initially went higher OC, because of the volt limit, I won't OC the CPU any more), my GPU was OC beforehand, and now I am trying to max out the ram. There are so many guides conflicting online regarding RAM OC though that I am very confused. Here is my thought process: Since my ram is already at 3600Mhz + the Ryzen infinity fabric 1800, the only thing I can work with is voltage and timings. I went up to 1.392V (I set it to 1.380V, my Mobo sets it to 1.404V anyways; online people suggest is OK to go even higher, but since I am not going past 3600Mhz, only tighten timings I don't see why to go any higher voltage) I then used dram calculator, which is complete shit for me, even at safe presets suggestions for timings, so I went in myself and started tightening the timings one by one. I understand from reading online that some timings are formulas which depend on others though I only saw conflicting info and decided the best way would be to start with primary timings as low as they can be, then move to secondary timings etc. I use memtest bootable USB + 20 reruns overnight to declare a given OC stable. So far I these are my timings: ORIGINAL XMP values: 16-19-19-39 CURRENT OC values: 15-18-19-28 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) CR - command rate 1T CL - trying to go 14T not stable RCD - my motherboard shows me two values for this one, one for write and one for read, one of them I got to 17T, while the other to 18T, I forget which one is which at the moment but do they have to be the same values? RC - original XMP value, trying to go 18T not stable RAS - here people say its some sort of formula between two or more values, I so far was able to go from original XMP value 39T to 28T, which breaks any of the formulas I found online, does that matter? I intend to try 27T, 26T etc. till I see the lowest stable one. After I am done lowering/understanding if my current values are any good, I will go to sub-timings lowering one by one to the maximum stable. Is my thought process OK? Is there anything that I am missing / misinterpreted from what I understood from 1020430 different online OC guides? Are there any formulas indeed for the primary timings that I should follow? Are there any formulas for secondary timings that I should follow/ order of importance to lower first for secondary timings? Or can I just go one by one lowering to last stable T value? Does it help to try and tighten/lower VDDG and cLDO voltages or auto is OK? Ryzen dram calculator has termination block and CAD_BUS block ohm values, why is that? does it help for me to eventually tighten those? if so, lowering or upping the values?
  6. Hi, I have 16gb of tridentZ rgb CL16-18-18-38, I'm new to the whole timing thing and overclocking but my ram seems to be running at 2133 after enabling XMP. could anyone help me with overclocking the ram in mhz to something more like 2500-2600? also could I have help figuring out timings and how to correctly time my ram. Any help is greatly appreciated
  7. So basically i have 2x16 ddr4 3600 cl18 ram. The Asus X470 Prime Pro only goes up to 3466 speeds. Would dialing back the speeds to 3466 and tightening the timings just be free performance?
  8. Recently started tuning my memory kit I bought when I built my PC. I'm getting some weird results using the DRAM calculator for Ryzen. The timings work and using Prime95 large ffts and haven't had any issues. Memory stats from thaiphoon are below. Along with the current "stable" timings. Module Manufacturer: Undefined Module Part Number: Undefined DRAM Manufacturer: Hynix DRAM Component: H5AN8G8N??R-UHC* *According to the chips themselves they are H5AN8G8NJJR-VKC I had to remove the heat spreader to look at the chips.* DRAM Die Revision / Process Node: FFh / Not determined Module Manufacturing Date: Week 15, 2019 Manufacturing Date Decoded: April 8-12, 2019 Module Serial Number: 0104AA1Bh Module PCB Revision: 00h Fundamental Memory Class: DDR4 SDRAM Module Speed Grade: DDR4-2400R Base Module Type: UDIMM (133.35 mm) Module Capacity: 8 GB Reference Raw Card: A2 (8 layers) JEDEC Raw Card Designer: SK hynix Module Nominal Height: 31 H Module Thickness Maximum, Front: 1 T Module Thickness Maximum, Back: T Number of DIMM Ranks: 1 Address Mapping from Edge Connector to DRAM: Standard DRAM Device Package: Standard Monolithic DRAM Device Package Type: 78-ball FBGA DRAM Device Die Count: Single die Signal Loading: Not specified Number of Column Addresses: 10 bits Number of Row Addresses: 16 bits Number of Bank Addresses: 2 bits (4 banks) Bank Group Addressing: 2 bits (4 groups) DRAM Device Width: 8 bits Programmed DRAM Density: 8 Gb Calculated DRAM Density: 8 Gb Number of DRAM components: 8 DRAM Page Size: 1 KB Primary Memory Bus Width: 64 bits Memory Bus Width Extension: 0 bits DRAM Post Package Repair: Supported Soft Post Package Repair: Supported Fine Timebase: 0.001 ns Medium Timebase: 0.125 ns CAS Latencies Supported: 10T, 11T, 12T, 13T, 14T, 15T, 16T, 17T, 18T Minimum Clock Cycle Time (tCK min): 0.833 ns (1200.48 MHz) Maximum Clock Cycle Time (tCK max): 1.600 ns (625.00 MHz) CAS# Latency Time (tAA min): 13.320 ns RAS# to CAS# Delay Time (tRCD min): 13.320 ns Row Precharge Delay Time (tRP min): 13.320 ns Active to Precharge Delay Time (tRAS min): 32.000 ns Act to Act/Refresh Delay Time (tRC min): 45.320 ns Normal Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC1 min): 350.000 ns 2x mode Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC2 min): 260.000 ns 4x mode Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC4 min): 160.000 ns Short Row Active to Row Active Delay (tRRD_S min): 3.300 ns Long Row Active to Row Active Delay (tRRD_L min): 4.900 ns Write Recovery Time (tWR min): 15.000 ns Short Write to Read Command Delay (tWTR_S min): 2.500 ns Long Write to Read Command Delay (tWTR_L min): 7.500 ns Long CAS to CAS Delay Time (tCCD_L min): 5.000 ns Four Active Windows Delay (tFAW min): 21.000 ns Maximum Active Window (tMAW): 8192*tREFI Maximum Activate Count (MAC): Unlimited MAC DRAM VDD 1.20 V operable/endurant: Yes/Yes Module Thermal Sensor: Not Incorporated I've been trying to tune the memory at 3466 which is the maximum spec for my motherboard which is a MSI B450 Gaming Plus paired with a Ryzen 5 2600X. These timings below appear to be stable with Prime95 large FFTs and while gaming they just seem really weird to me. Basically I am just looking for some constructive criticism or some knowledge from people on here as I am an amateur. Hell I didn't know what XMP was a year ago.
  9. Im looking to overclock my ram im currently using PNY Anarchy ram 2x8gb 15 15 15 1.20volt 2133 2400 compatible using Asus Rog Z-390 e
  10. I've got corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R x2 Do i need to get the exact same type of ram corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R x2 Or i could get any type of ram which is 1600mhz and 8-8-8-24? Right now i got 2 of those mixed with samsung cl11 so its running 1600 at cl11. When i remove the samsung sticks i'm able to run xmp 1600mhz 8-8-8-24, otherwise its cl11 and 1600mhz at best. Except of color, is there any difference between CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 and CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R? What ram should i get? I want to run 16gb with xmp, at least cl8 1600mhz.
  11. Ryzen 3000 series cpu DDR4 Memory suggestions. Purchase what you need. The more memory you have (in GB) the more strain on IMC. Is 16GB enough? Yea, probably for most gamers and average users. Get only 2 sticks. Most Dual channel configurations are in slots A2 and B2 AMD DDR4 Clock speed and timing suggestions. (for purchase) 3000mhz - CL 14-14-14 3200mhz - CL 14/16-14/16-14/16 3400mhz - CL 16-16-16 3600mhz - CL 16-16-16 3800mhz - CL 16-16-16 (desired IF 1:1 speed) _________________________________________________________ What to do if my Memory has really loose timings? At the above, you use this for reference. Start small. Work your way up, small increments. If you're going to try 16-16-16 timings, start perhaps at 3000mhz or 3200mhz. tCL -16 tRCD -16 (both channels) tRP -16 Memory Voltage - Most XMP profiles are 1.35v Manually set this. Power Down mode set to disabled. This feature throttles memory voltage at idle states. (instability for o.c.) Gear Down mode (optional) - this disabled allows for odd ram timings There is no need for Gear Down mode, you want nice even timing sets IMC-Integrated Memory Controller IF-Infinity Fabric, always keep linked to memory speed ____________________________________________________________________________ Results. - Yes they will vary. The sweetest spot and Best performance is CL 16-16-16 3800mhz IF linked. 3600mhz is the next best thing. This quick guide is to get you started. There's a lot more to overclocking, I just set this up so that at least you can have better performance than running only 2133mhz (1066 effective) with your Ryzen processor. If your memory and system is only stable at 3200mhz, that's ok. It'll still perform noticeably better than stock 1066 15-15-15. Good luck and have fun. (may add more later - I'm tired. Been a long day) disclaimer, I'm not liable or the forum it's staff and affiliates. you make your own choices to overclock or tweak your system.
  12. Hey guys! I want to overclock my (title listed) ram, using a Z390 pro (t-topology) and i9 9900k. I want to know what your settings are or what settings I should shoot for. Id love to tighten timings if possible. Just looking for a baseline/shortcut to avoid hours of headache! Thanks in advance! RAM: https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236405?item=N82E16820236405
  13. Everyone knows Ryzen LOVES fast RAM.. But AMD made some tweaks to the 3000-series that make it less straightforward. So what should YOU buy for third-gen Ryzen? Buy a Ryzen 5 3600: On Amazon: https://geni.us/AyDSv On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KVz7 Buy a Ryzen 7 3700X: On Amazon: https://geni.us/MB2V On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KVzM Buy a DDR4-3000 Samsung B Die memory kit (for low-speed overclocking) On Amazon: https://geni.us/nJzR On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KV3h Buy a DDR4-3600 Samsung B Die memory kit On Amazon: https://geni.us/JOIcw4r On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KV39 Buy a DDR4-3800 Samsung B Die memory kit On Amazon: https://geni.us/8Q3M0nA On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KV3w
  14. Hey guys, Planning to upgrade my CPU/Mobo/Ram this black friday and as such, i've started my research. So we can all agree that Ryzen 3 series performs best paired with ram at 3200MHz and CL14 timing, right? The other "more viable" option is 3600MHz CL 14/15, but that's waaaay to expensive around here (im talking 220€+ for a 16GB kit). On the other hand, 3200MHz CL14 is basically non-existent too, the only kit I can find is a really ugly Team Group T-Force Night Hawk Legend RGB kit. So I'm just thinking of getting a set of 3466MHz CL16 Ram, which I can get for around 120€ (16GB) and underclocking it to 3200HMz and tightening the timings. I'd be buying a Ryzen 5 3600 or 3600X - depending on the black friday deals. Here are my questions: How viable is this? Does the motherboard I buy have any influence? (Of course, my desired speed would be supported, thinking of B450 or B550 if it has been released by the time I purchase) Im on a tight budget, around 400€ for the whole thing, so I wanna squeeze the most performance I can from my parts . Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks a bunch!
  15. I have a question. In bios I set my dram to stock 3200 14.14.14.34, but ryzen master and cpu-z both show my timings are at 16.16.16.(can't recall the last number but it was higher than 34) could they just be showing incorrect readings? Is there another software I can check it on, or do I need to do something different in bios? They both show my speed to be correct. Also, how I set in bios was I manually set the speed to 3200, then opened up docp(I think that's the acronym) to apply the xmp profile, there was only one available 3200mzh 14.14.14.34. I'm using trident z neo with stock ratings at that speed and timing. Ryzen 5 3600, rx590, trident z neo 3200 cl14 (14.14.14.34), Asus rog crosshair viii hero x570
  16. I'm falling down a rabbit hole of RAM options. Right now I have an intel CPU but I will be upgrading to a Ryzen 5 3600 soon so I need to take RAM into consideration. I'm looking at 2 sets in particular: G.Skill TridentZ 4x 8gb 3600 CAS 19 $189 (sale) G.Skill TridentZ 2x 16gb 3200 CAS 16 $169 (sale) I know Ryzen likes 3600 better, but considering I'll be running in dual channel, I wonder if I'll take a performance hit with 4 sticks as opposed to 2. I'll be getting a Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite if that matters. My use case leans more towards video editing/rendering than gaming, so I also wonder if having a CAS of 19 even matters for hyperthreaded workloads. I can probably tighten the timings of the 3600 RAM, but with 4 sticks it might be more difficult. Plus I read that it puts strain on the memory controller? I can't really find any information on this besides people saying it on forums. Then again, x4 RGB vs x2 RGB.. XD Please help... my brain hurts >_<
  17. Hello, I built a new PC recently and have had a bad time trying to get my Ram running correctly. I reset motherboard back to defaults, and if I set XMP i fail AIDA64 memory tests almost immediately. I even RMA'ed my ram and have the same issue. Specs: 9700k MSI z390 gaming edge 32gb ballistix 3200 ( https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164140?Item=N82E16820164140 ) I've tried upping voltages to 1.4 and 1.45 on DRAM, fiddled with SA and IO voltages, but it seems no matter what I do AIDA64 fails quickly. The only thing I can think of is I've seen people saying ram can learn the timings wrong. I don't know much about timings except the basics. Here is my stock timings vs XMP Any ideas? I've been reading posts by @MageTank but I can't really tell if something is completely out of whack.
  18. Hi guys I'm about to buy some new RAM for my Ryzen 5 1600 system, and I can't seem to find the difference between these two kits One is a little bit more expensive but I can't seem to figure out why Why is one more expensive than the other? https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/786133/corsair-vengeance-lpx-cmk16gx4m2z3200c16.html https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/459273/corsair-vengeance-lpx-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16.html
  19. Hello fellows, so i lowered my ram timings to 12-14-14-32 and ran memtest64 for 20minutes and it was stable also my ram is ocd to 3333mhz. Could i go lower with the timings if it stays stable and what happens if the timings dont go correctly. Also do i need to touch on voltage? Need tips asap :D Ram: 2x8gb 3000mhz hyperx predator cl 15, 1.35v Mobo: z270 aorus gaming 7 Cpu: 7700k @ 4.8ghz 1.32v
  20. Hi All! I have a query regarding RAM latency on a friends 2700X build His specs: Asus Prime X470 board Ryzen 2700X Corsair Vengeance 16Gb kit He's recently bought a new graphics card (Second hand 2080ti) and he's not quite getting the performance he was expecting out of it. I've already explained that the 2700X isn't the 'Best' CPU for that card and he understands that but running a few test between his computer and mine we've noticed some differences between the two systems. I'm still running my 6600K in a Z170 board. The biggest difference is he's getting some serious latency in Passmark Mem test compared to my own system with his RAM in it. Here's the pics: This pic shows what he is getting on his system in Passmark The following Pic show what i'm getting with his RAM kit in my PC Now, all either of us are doing with timings is turning on XMP/DOCP in our bioses. No other timing are being changed. The reason I'm asking this is to find out if this is normal for a 2700X really or if i've got to tweak the timings in his bios or not Thanks in advance for any information Chunk
  21. Ryzen 3000, I will start by saying me being excited about the new 3800x is an understatement. On to the real question. In terms of how ram works, if your goal is run at 3733mhz speeds with as tight of timings as you can get. Does it make any theoretical sense to buy a 3800 or 4000 speed kit and only run it at 3733. Would doing so allow your ram to have better timings then a normally packaged kit sold at 3733 advertised speeds? As for logical reasoning's I have none. Its like the Camaro you just got, I want to make it as fast as possible just because I can.
  22. I have had 1 8GB 2400Mhz corsair vengeance LPX RAM stick for 2 years before finally buying another 8GB 2400Mhz of the same make and model but different color(Previous one was Red this ones Black). I have a i5 7400 and an Asus H110M-CS Mobo. The Mobo was only Two RAM slots so now the 2 8GB RAM is running in a Dual Channel config, as is shown in the Scre enshot But even though its running in Dual Channel config, the speed and other metrics is different for both RAM. So are both of my RAMs running in Dual Channel config?? Or is there something wrong?
  23. What should be the optimal memory timings to consider when buying DDR4 RAM modules ?
  24. So yeah. I mixed two different ram sticks. One is a Crucial Ballistix 8GB 1600MHz and a Kingston HyperX Fury 4GB 1600 MHz Crucial is my original ram stick, it boots up very fast, I also have my OS in my ssd so no problems there. So when I put the other 4GB, the boot up is slower than ever. Any help on this? I searched a few and said that I should fix the timings and stuff. Any help? Thank you in advanced.
  25. Chart: http://i.imgur.com/D4JWHOq.png Coverage: - 800-4500 Mhz (29 speeds) - 7-21 CAS Latency There's a large range of numbers, what's a good response time to look for? Typically anything below 14 is a decent speed. 12-14 is about average for today's standards. Anything near 10-11 or lower is very good. Anything under 10 is phenomenal. You should probably avoid anything above 14. This chart combines the frequency and CL combinations of practically all semi-modern to modern memory modules into a single raw performance number. This number alone doesn't mean much, but it means the world in a relative scenario like the graph above. This graph is useful if you want to compare several memory modules of different frequencies and latencies to find out which is fastest. Sometimes the faster module turns out having a lesser frequency than what you compared it against thus saving you a few monies. It could also be used in the high-end to determine which memory module will have the best performance if you're looking for the best you can get. As an example, let's say you wanted to compare the Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB 2133 CL14 against the G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB 2400 CL16 memory modules to see which performs better (frequency and CL go hand-in-hand to determine memory performance). The Kingston stick has a worse frequency, but better CL timings while the Ripjaws stick has a higher frequency and worse CL timings. Without a graph like this, it's hard to tell which would actually perform better and you'd probably just assume it's the one with the higher frequency. Visiting the graph, the Kingston stick has a response time of 13.13 and the Ripjaws stick has a response time of 13.33. So, if you assumed the higher frequency module was faster, you were wrong; the Kingston module is slightly faster even though its frequency is less. That's solid evidence that frequency isn't everything and I hope this example showed you the usefulness of this graph. This was a modest result and you can definitely see more significant results here, but nonetheless, you just got better performance for less money by using the graph to make an educated pick. Hopefully this will save you some money while getting you better RAM performance at the same time. Depending on your hardware, it has been shown that faster RAM can get you more FPS in-game, mainly with integrated graphics or high-end hardware where your memory will likely be the weakest link. This doesn't mean you won't see more performance with mid-tier hardware, but it likely won't be as significant. Video: (this is an update of ThioJoeTech's list, so most of the credit goes to him) If for whatever reason your RAM speeds don't line up on the graph, you can use this formula to calculate the number: "1/(REAL FREQUENCY)1000(CL)=RESPONSE TIME" The real frequency is a module's rated speed divided by two. See second row of graph. Download Excel spreadsheet:
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