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Is the Phantom Spirit 120 SE capable of cooling the 7900X under multi core workload? Some tests conclude that most air coolers can't keep the 7900X under 95C while others recommend coolers like the Dark Rock 4 Pro and AK620 and the PS120SE seems to be close to them in cooling performance overall.
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Hi all, Im currently running a 7800X3D with a Thermalright frost commander, and planning to upgrade to an Assassin IV for aesthetic purposes and noise reduction in future. Im wondering if an offset bracket would also help with this? Lowerings temps slightly and resulting in a quieter fan speed for similar temps, i know it will be a minor change, just wondering if its worth the cost? As its not a noctua cooler, am i, 1. still able to buy and use an appropriate noctua offset mount for my cooler? or 2. will i have to buy a thermal grizzly one? The only issue with the thermal grizzly one is its quite expensive for what it will achieve coming in at £29 or almost $37. Any thoughts?
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I have seen multiple threads saying that CPU contact frames (like the Thermalright one) can help with cooler performance. I am about to build a PC with a 13700K, a Deepcool lt720 and the MSI pro z790-a wifi. Do I really need this contact frame? I'm pretty sure this motherboard doesn't suffer from bending.
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I am installing a Thermalright ARO on a AM4 platform. According to manual, the 2 plastic brackets on the motherboard (installed by default) should removed. Then, 4 nylon tubes (that comes with cooler) should be installed. I also put the anchoring mount on the top of it : Anyway, there a 5 millimeter gap on each side that prevent me to start screwing the 2 x M3L7 screws. The CPU is making good contact with cooler, it cannot go lower than that. The height on each side is 8 mm : This seems to be correct and about the same as in this review (see the picture with a ruler) : https://tiny-reviews.com/reviews/2130-overview-on-thermalright-aro-m14g-processor-cooler There must be something wrong but I cannot figure what.
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I have the original SilverArrow on my i7 940. Had it for 9 years now. It's been great. So I finally have to upgrade as the newer games look like shit and load times are taking forever. So my question is this, what do you all think of the SilverArrow t8? I can pick one up here in Japan for around 80us or so.
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Hi all I'm got a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB white fan which I'm trying to connect to my motherboard, which is a Gigabyte z790 AORUS ELITE AX. I'm struggling to figure out how to do the wiring for the fan/RGB. I've got 2 white wires coming from each of the fans and one black split connector. Has anyone got this fan or can offer their help? Any advice would be much appreciated! I've taking a picture of the fan + wires + installation guide. Thanks!
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Hi everyone, first time poster here looking for some input from anyone who might have person experience with AIO cpu coolers. When I first finished my build, I had decided to go for the biggest air cooler I knew could fit in my case, a thermalright Macho Rev 2, and while I am very happy with the performance I am starting to regret the amount of space it takes up in my case. I've been recently looking into switching to a closed loop liquid cooler instead, either a 240 or 280mm, but I'm not sure what would be best for me. I was originally planning on going for a Deepcool Captain 240 since the red/black color scheme matches my build and lets be honest that waterblock is sick, but I read several reviews saying that it leaked on users after around 2 months on average. Anyone had experience with one? I'd appreciate your thoughts. More generally though, how many of you out there have AIO liquid coolers that are outside the typical waterblock/pump design (products like the Corsair H100 and other similar looking ones) that you've been happy with? I've spent most of my build on function over form so I think it's time for me to begin balancing that out a bit and working on aesthetic.
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My new "Le Grande Macho" aircooler came in the other day, and I'm tempted to do a scientific review of it vs my Wraith Spire cooler, since it's so friggen' huge. Most reviews on air coolers I see today cover the looks/features, so I'd like to put some muscle into the cooling power / temperatures / noise with measurements. Would anybody be intersted in this? Large Banana for scale.
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Introduction As a person older than Linus, there're three things that get on your nerves the longer you're around: slow computers, fan noise, and that damned bright RGB radiation. Now that I have kids too, all I want is some god-d***ed peace and quiet. So when I decided to build a new work/play rig I decided that focusing on performance and noise would come first, LEDS can be fixed with a wire cutter or a hammer. I put together a Ryzen 1600 build pretty cheaply using the stock cooler and an old aluminum Thermaltake Tsunami case, but the noise was terrible. The Aluminum case reverbed all the noise, the fan on the stock Ryzen cooler clicked at certain speeds, and it ran hot. It was time to go to war. After endless comparisons of air vs water, how silence vs mesh cooling perf, I ended up deciding on the Fractal Design Meshify C case and the Thermalright Le Grande Macho RT air cooler. I wanted to see if you could have a mesh case, good cooling, AND almost no noise. Test Specifications Common Hardware AMD Ryzen 1600 at Stock & 3.6 Ghz Overclock speeds Asus PRIME X370-PRO Motherboard EVGA SuperSC 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory @ 2933 speed Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card SeaSonic PRIME Titanium 750W PSU Noctua NT-H1 Thermal Paste Measurements & Methodology We will be measuring Noise and Temperature readings for each setup iteration. To generate as much load and heat as possible, IntelBurnTest (IBT) and Furmark (FM) will be run at the same time. IBT will run a Standard Stress Test utilizing all cores/threads, and FM will run the “GPU stress test” at 1920x1080. Noise Noise will be measured using the Niosh Sound Level Meter App for iPhone, which is a free calibrated app for collecting A-weighted noise measurements. It will be measured while idle, and at the end of the testing cycle at two locations: 15cm diagonal to the front/left corner of the case to simulate the PC on the desk 1 meter diagonal to the front/left/top vertex corner of the case, which tends to be where my head is while sitting in a chair with the case on the floor under the desk. The environment will be as controlled as possible, with HVAC, refrigerators, and other noise generating sources turned off. Tests are run during quiet times, which resulted in an approximately 22dB background noise level. Temperature Temperature readings will be collected using HWiNFO, and logged to CSV for analysis. The environment will be as controlled as possible, with HVAC keeping the room steady at 22C, and only shutoff at the beginning and end of tests to measure noise levels. Variables Tested We will be testing the following setup iterations: Old Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case + Stock AMD Wraith Spire cooler Fractal Design Meshify C case + Stock AMD Wraith Spire cooler Fractal Design Meshify C case + Thermalright Le Grande Macho RT cooler Fan setup iterations on #3 Fractal Design Meshify C Review Since we’ve all seen 10 unboxing videos with slow panning 4k b-roll, techno music, and small plastic potted plants, I’ll skip to my thoughts from the build: Pros Love the design Front panel has a nice “low-poly” design, should help hide dents / damage over time Rim of front panel reminds me of a jet engine intake cowl, brings images of airflow Tempered Glass and good airflow for $89 Has decent supplied fans Case feels solid for how light it is The power LED is subtle, very nice for us anti-rgb crowd Cons Stripped out two motherboard mounts while installing them with not much force. Tight fit with my longer 175mm PSU, can’t see using HDD cage with this size PSU, especially with my meaty mitts. Could not find a nice way to route the USB 3.0 cable for the front panel. It’s nearly too big to fit through the middle shroud hole, and then has to take a 90° turn to hit the motherboard header. This also resulted in a strained diagonal cable across the back of the case, so I went through the large grommeted holes to the right of the motherboard. Leaks sound like a screen door (who knew?). You will hear your crappy CPU cooler fans and coil whine from your motherboard or graphics board. Since it’s mesh on top, front, and back, the noise might bounce off more surfaces in your room, and into your ear. Design Improvement Suggestions Would have been nice to get a solid Moduvent for the top if you don’t need the extra mesh / venting. Would have been nice to have some soundproofing on the metal side panel. Would have been nice to have a 140mm fan support on the back instead of 120mm USB3.0 front panel cable needs to be longer to use with the supplied shroud hole. A more flexible connector for the end of the USB3.0 front panel cable would be nice for tight turns. A shroud hole for GPU power would be nice too. Front and backmost shroud holes could be bigger / have rubber grommets. Front IO could have been on separate panel so it’s not attached to the removable door - would make the mesh easier to clean It’s 2017, have a USB type C connector! Maybe if Fractal Josh stopped going on yacht trips to the flippin’ Catalina Wine Mixer they could have afforded this. Build Tips If you don’t need the hard drive cage, remove it before doing anything else. Can’t remove with PSU in. If you are putting this on carpet, face the PSU fan UP. Figure out routing the front panel cables before doing any other cabling, especially the USB cable. Thermalright Le Grande Macho RT Review I looked this up in an online translator, and apparently the name means “the great chauvinistic pig”, hopefully it’s a pig for CPU heat and it doesn’t offend any of the lady folk. Why This Cooler Finding this cooler was a trip, I originally wanted something cool and quiet of course, and was leaning towards an AIO kit because I postulated in my head that it would be more resilient to a child tipping my case over. A 1KG air cooler would have a hell of a lot more torque / pressure on the motherboard than a liquid cooling block would if it fell over. So I was looking for an all-copper 240mm solution, and first settled on Be Quiet!’s Silent Loop cooler, but I couldn’t find it for under $200 or so dollars, and that’s because it had to be imported by a third party. I contacted their support, and found out they can’t sell it here in North America because of patent issues, which was interesting. I looked at some other AIO solutions, reviews, etc and couldn’t fall in love with another solution. Also some of the pumps noise recordings in the reviews reminded me of a fish tank aerator pump, which also turned me off of liquid cooling. Looking at air coolers again, I was going to go with the shiny khakis & poo colored Noctua DH-15 or a Be Quiet Dark Rock 3, but then I found this guy on a TechPowerUp review, and it came in both cooler, quieter, and cheaper than the other two. So of course, I needed to review it. Pros Love the design, all you see is the anodized black plate and heatpipes. It hides everything else around your CPU socket. Cheaper than similar Noctua offerings. Comes with the Thermalright TY-147a, a PWM fan that apparently doesn’t suck at low speeds. No ticking like the Wraith Spire fan! Comes with small skin-saving gloves, and a very nice long screwdriver, and a low speed adapter. Base plate is nickel-plated copper, with a nice polished finish. Assembly was a breeze. Hides messy fan cables with no effort! Cons May not fit your motherboard / memory / case. Want to change the rear case fan whose header is under this thing? Say hello to removing your graphics card, and using offset pliers. Be careful when clipping the fan on. I was sloppy and dragged the anti-vibration pads off of the fins - had to start over. Improvement Suggestions I wish it was sold more places, I bought mine off of the only approved US reseller on Amazon. Would be great to see a version with a larger baseplate for TR4 applications. Build Tips Do a dry fit with your memory before fitting the fan in place. Mine cleared it, but I ended up unclipping/reclipping it lower to get more air over the VRMs. Test Results and Thoughts And the scientific results are in… Configurations Key: Tsunami Stock / Tsunami 3.6 Ghz - Tsunami Dream Case, Wraith Spire Cooler, 1 Noctua + 1 Be Quiet! 120mm fans. Meshify Stock / Meshify 3.6 Ghz - Meshify Case, Wraith Spire Cooler, 2 stock Meshify 120mm fans. Macho Meshify / Macho Meshify 3.6 Ghz - Meshify Case, Le Grande Macho cooler, 2 stock Meshify 120mm fans. 3 Quiet Fans 3.6 Ghz - Meshify Case, Le Grande Macho cooler, 2 stock Meshify 120mm fans with low speed adapters, 1 Noctua 120mm fan with low speed adapter. 3 Noctua Fans 3.6 Ghz - Meshify Case, Le Grande Macho cooler, 2 Noctua 140mm fans, 1 Noctua 120mm fan. Stock Ryzen 1600 Results Ryzen 1600 3.6 Ghz Overclock Results With every iteration we were able to reduce the noise, temperature, or both. Focusing on the 3.6Ghz tests, noise at the floor level was reduced 9.5dB, max CPU temperatures reduced 21.6C, and max GPU temps reduced 5C. Using my subjective ears, I like the final fan setup the most as well. Using all Noctua fans for the case changes the tone and feel of the fan noise to be mostly unobtrusive. At head level and full load I get readings of 22.3 dB, which is barely above background noise. It amounts to “is there a fan on, somewhere upstairs?”. The fridge in the next room is louder than it, the HVAC blower is louder than it, the dehumidifier in the basement is louder than it. It is essentially silent in this environment. The only downside to something this quiet is that up close you do hear coil whine and other electronics noise, especially when FurMark is thrashing the graphics card. Conclusions The Fractal Design Meshify C is cooler and quieter than a 12 year old Thermaltake Tsunami Dream. The Le Grand Macho RT cooler is cooler and quieter than an AMD Wraith Spire cooler. Noctua fans may be ugly, but this 3 fan setup is cooler and quieter than the stock Fractal Design fans. If I were to do these tests again, I hope to keep a better notebook as I forgot to take a few readings here and there. I would also give the system time to cool between runs, as the idle temps were skewed because of a quick test cycle. I also hope to purchase a better noise level meter if I get into noise testing. As for what I did with the damned RGB, I ended up adding a UV strip, and doing a little infilling of the Fractal Design logo with UV/Neon paint. This gave it a nice ghostly ultra-violet iradescence, and all you can see while the system is running are the creeping fans and shiny heat pipes everywhere. It can't be fully captured with a camera, but here's the best pictures I have. Thanks for reading!
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I came across this Thermalright cooler with pretty impressive specs. It appears though that the design is a bit "dated" For around the same price I can get the Be Quiet Dark Rock 4. Opinions?
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A new king in town? Here are some of the first pictures of the Frost Spirit by Thermalright, the company's next flagship air CPU cooler. Featuring a dual fin-stack design, the Frost Spirit features dense fin-stacks, in which the fins bunch up toward the center, creating turbulence and increasing heat-dissipation to the medium (air-flow). The fin-stack gets slimmer toward the base, adding clearance for your motherboard's memory and CPU VRM areas. Four 8 mm-thick nickel-plated copper heat pipes pull heat from the mirror-finish nickel-plated copper base, spreading it across the fin-stacks. Both stacks are capped off by metal top-plates. Up to three 140 mm fans can be mounted. The heatsink weighs 1 kg on its own (without fans). Among the CPU socket types supported are AM4, LGA115x, and LGA2066. It could see a product launch soon. Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/261943/thermalright-frost-spirit-cpu-cooler-pictured-dual-fin-stack-monstrosity
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The title says it all. Which CPU Cooler should I choose? Thermalright Macho 120 Rev.A Thermalright True Spirit 140 Direct ARCTIC AC Freezer 33 eSports edition Which one of them is better?
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For quick context, this is my current build that I plan on building anew since my i5 really cannot keep up with my ANSYS simulations, gaming, and streaming. I have it currently overclocked stable at 4.4 GHz and looking to increase my cores and clocks. I have a slight preference to the AMD side since I think they would provide the greatest gain to my needs however open to suggestions. A quick note before clicking my planned AMD build, I do plan on passing down my current to my girlfriend and downsizing the case, so the new case won't be used nor the PSU. I have created a really quick intel build for a possible Intel build instead however again, looking for input on the poll so I can finally decide on a cooler, and any additional input. Thanks for all your help!
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I just oiled, with WD40, the fan of my Thermalright Macho Rev A which has brushelss motor written on the label. I instantly regret my decision. From what I know this should not effect conductivity inside the motor but that stuff is definitely flamable and I would not like my PC too well go up in flames. What should I do now? Wait for solvents no evaporate? Can I use it now? Was this even as bad of an idea as I think it was?
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Hello, I'm considering using this cooler from thermalright to upgrade from the stock intel cooler. I was planning on replacing the thermalright-stock fan with a noctua NF-B9 redux-1 because of the specs given on the website: Noctua: RPM: 1600 RPM (min. 350rpm @ PWM) 64,3 m³/h 17,6 dBA MTBF: > 150 000h vs ThermalRight: 800~2000RPM, 21~27 dBA, 15.8~39.4 CFM Specs (and reputation) tells me that Noctua should be a no-brainer. But is it worth it when looking at these test results: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6941/thermalright-macho-90-cpu-cooler-review/index6.html http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-cooling/cpu-air-coolers/4525-thermalright-macho-90-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=5 P.s. I was going to buy the BeQuiet Pure Rock, but I'm not sure I could fit that cooler on my mobo, because I have an old LGA775-board (AsRock P45TS), and those place the socket much closer to the edge of the board compared to modern mobos. And the PSU is placed right above the mobo. I use the cooler master 330 Elite case. If anyone here knows whether or not I could fit the pure rock-cooler in there or not, please tell me.
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Pretty self explainitory, I've started a massdrop poll on dual tower air cooling heatsinks. Vote for your favorite and we can possibly get a nice deal on one from Massdrop. Follow the link: dro.ps/v/N4enMqx Current contenders are: 1) Notcua NH-D15 2) Cryorig G1 Ultimate 3) Cooler Master V8 GTS 4) Thermalright Silverarrow IB-E Extreme 5) Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 140mm UFB 6) Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
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I have a nanoxia deep silence 1 case that's sound damped and atm 3x corsair af120 quiet edition fans running at low rpm, might get 2 more to use inside of my case on the top where most people mount a 240mm rad and a msi gtx 780 gaming oc, i want to run my i7 4790k at 4.5 ghz or faster(not because i need it, but because i can), atm moment i use the thermalright macho zero without my black and with ty-147 fan. I have had the corsair H100i, to noisy fans, even at low rpm i could hear the fans, the pump is loud, just returned the cooler master seidon 240M, it really has silent,quiet fans at low load, but i could hear the pump (conclusion theres no aio cpu cooler with 100% silent pump). I have the Phanteks PH-TC14PE (got it new with half of the price) it's a bit to noisy at low load (the fans on the cooler master seidon 240M is more silent at low load then the Phanteks). I like thermalright, my old cpu cooler was a thermalright true spirit 140 with the black and white ty-147 fan i don't use atm on the macho zero, i have thought about the thermalright silver arrow ib-e or the se that has 2 different fans but it's not a cool as the big phanteks,noctua, the last one i have thought of is the new Noctua NH-D15 simply because it's in the top 3 of the best cpu air coolers in the world, not shure how silent the noctua is compared to the silver arrow Ibt and prime 95 is giving me very high temps above 80 degress and i have heard that it's not good to use since it's giving temps above average I feel a little frustated since i want run my cpu at 4.5ghz or more but i can't get ressonable temps with low noise, i know if i had to use real water cooling, not a aio cooler, it's gonna cost med around 200-250€ and that is to much, the price of the thermalright silver arrow and noctua NH-D15 is more then okay, they all cost under 100€
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Good day everybody! I'm currently looking for a new CPU cooler to tame my i7-4790k while not being too loud. I don't like AIO's as the pumps are usually pretty noisy (IMO) and the Noctua NH-D15 is simply too big for my liking (also the colour scheme is not that appealing). So the two coolers I decided on are the Thermalright SilverArrow ITX and the Noctua NH-U14S. So what do you guys think, which cooler would be better? Or do you have any other suggestions? Thanks in advance, RT
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What size are the fans on the Thermalright Silver Arrow? They look like 140mm fans in various pictures, but I would like to be sure. On a related note, if I installed square framed 140mm fans on the Silver Arrow, would the fans stick up over the top/bottom of the fins? Also are there any other dual tower heatsinks that you can recommend that would perform similarly to the Silver Arrow, other than the NH-D14. Many thanks, FizzyFantom
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I was looking for a good air cooler for my FX-8350 on a gigabyte 990fx UD5. Cpu is not overclocked yet, I want to get a good burn in for 1 month before I overclock. Which one of these is great or the best out of all of them? Gelid Solutions Black edition http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gelid-solutions-cpu-cooler-ccbedition01a Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermalright-cpu-cooler-silverarrowibeextreme Noctua NHD-14 http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14 Noctua NHD-15 http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15 Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pebk Evercool HPO-12025 http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evercool-cpu-cooler-hpo12025
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So I'm looking at getting the Thermalright Silver Arrow SB E Extreme (I'm also buying the CM Storm Trooper, but I know it'll fit in there), but I'm a little worried that it's going to be too big so that my RAM can't fit. I'm using Kingston Hyper-X RAM and an ASUS M5A97 motherboard (AM3+), and I understand that there's a 'standard height' for RAM which CPU coolers can normally fit over, but I've not a clue what this standard actually is. My RAM sticks don't have any special heat spreaders or anything, they look like the picture below. I'm probably worrying over nothing, but I thought I'd check with the community first. Would it fit?
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