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Mobile SoCs have been 64-bit-only for OS for a long time now. What that meant was that they can only run a 64-bit host OS, so no more 32-bit version of Android. Good riddance, we did not need 32-bit OSes in even the late 2010s. Unfortunately, Qualcomm (and others) may have went a step too far. 2024 mobile SoCs will not even be able to run 32-bit apps, which is a massive problem! People bought Android devices because they can run legacy software on the go (to a certain extent), either natively (old Android apps) or through emulation. That means that if I upgrade to the Red Magic 8S Pro, it will be my last smartphone. Normally I would be apprehensive about buying a new phone, and suspicious of whether it would last me, but that is not true anymore. There is no upgrade path from the Red Magic 8S Pro that exists in the same form factor. Future phones will not be able to run legacy software that was the reason I even still use Android. Due to that, 2022 flagship smartphones will definitely last for years until something way better comes along. https://www.xda-developers.com/arm-future-chips-32-bit-2023/ https://www.tomsguide.com/news/snapdragon-8-gen-3 https://www.sammobile.com/news/exynos-2400-specs-10-core-cpu-2x-gpu-rdna-2/ Will an emulator be made to fix this glaring issue? Or will there be another SoC that retains legacy software support and still remain competitive? Until something like that appears, there is no upgrade path. New Android phones will not interest me in the slightest, and any performance improvement gained by new SoCs are nullified by their lack of ability to run legacy software.

I really did love my Google Pixel 7 Pro, but unfortunately, its Mali GPU causes massive issues with gaming. Yuzu barely supports Mali and everyone in their discord server is a member of the Red Magic 8S Pro cult. Should I join them or suck it up until phones with an AMD Z1 Extreme SoC come out?

I just want to do a question for something I've been thinking for a while. It will not help me in any way, I just want the answer if anyone has it. My phone (Snapdragon 835 CPU) has 8 cores(4 big @ 2.4GHz and 4 little @ 1.9 GHz). For some reason I can disable up to 6 cores only (3 big + 3 small). So my question is: Which and how many cores is better to disable for power saving? If I disable 3 big then the small cores would probably work at 100% most of the time which means more heat... but does it mean more power consumption than using only big cores that work at much lower %? It's just a random question but still... thank you in advance

(3) Qualcomm Soup - YouTube Mmm yummy...Yes I made this cringe video. I assume Snapdragon SOC's are made of silicon and glass dies? I know the og 800 was silicon. 203198150_VID_20210121_1034091.mp4

Summary Qualcomm is reported in the works of making a new ARM chip to compete with Apple’s M1 Quotes Since at the moment, there’s nothing like the M1 in the PC world so it’s nice that Qualcomm is doing so. However, I feel that once 8cx successor arrive, it’ll be too late as Apple probably have a M1X or M2 chip with even larger caches and more transistors. It has been three years since Windows 10 was launched and until now, only a few developers made an ARM64 version of their programs. Apple devs on the other hand rushed and made universal binary versions of their apps which will run native on both Intel and AS Macs. I feel that Qualcomm’s success with their M1 competitor is in the hands of Microsoft to convince devs to embrace Windows on ARM. XDA Developers

Now that the S23 dropped, prices went down for the previous installment which caught my attention since I wanna upgrade from my daily drive XZ Premium. I wanna get this version in particular cause it has both decent amount of storage space and dual sim which I am very interested in since I’m gonna use it abroad. That being said, will I have trouble using an EU version in eastern asia, for example, or would it be a better move to buy it once I’m there? About the dual sim, as I’ve read, you can use the second sim slot as a microSD card reader aswell. Is this some kind of "workaround" or will it properly RW data as if it was inserted into an exclusive microSD slot like in older phones? One last concern would be the chipset and software support. The S21 and S22 used Exynos but the new S23 switched back to Snapdragon. Is the Exynos gonna get laggy overtime due to everyday use, charge cycles, lack of OS updates...? I’m open to hear better alternatives if any. The use of the phone would look something like: 15% photos 35% multimedia: yt, twitch, prime, discord... 50% dap w/ portable dac/amp.

Source: 9to5 Google, Change.org Here's a Youtube comparison and it shows that the Exynos S20 Ultra gets toasty and then thermal throttles, and it drains battery faster compared to the Snapdragon S20 Ultra. The SD S20 Ultra that uses a Sony sensor seems to take sharper photos, have more detail and better dynamic range compared to the Exynos S20 Ultra which uses Samsung's in-house ISOCELL sensor. Even Android Central weighed in and based on their own testing, and once again the SD S20 Ultra is overall the better performer compared to the Exynose S20 Ultra. To be fair even Apple sourced their chips from two fabs, one their chips from TSMC and Samsung with the iPhone 6s. I think if I'm not mistaken Apple chips nowadays are manufactured by TSMC. I can't really speak for experience right now because it has been a long time since I've used a Samsung phone but my cousin is complaining that her Exynos Galaxy S9 pictures are often a hit or miss even in good lighting conditions. This may not be an issue for North American Galaxy S20 users but it might be for some outside especially that battery draining faster.

Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11201/qualcomm-snapdragon-835-performance-preview/6 It seems that recently Qualcomm invited many reviewers to its San Diego HQ to test phones built around its Snapdragon 835 SoC. These are development phones made by Qualcomm for hardware and software testing, so don't get too excited. The new Snapdragon 835 is an octa core big.LITTLE CPU based on Samsung's new 10 nm LPE lithography, with the power cluster containing 4 Kryo 280 cores at 2.45 ghz and the efficiency core containing 4 Kryo 280 cores at 1.90 ghz. These cores aren't completely new designs, as evidenced by the shared "Kryo" name, but they have some improvements that should bring about higher IPC. It also has a new GPU, the Adreno 540, which should bring a pretty substantial performance improvement compared to the Adreno 530 from the Snapdragon 820 and 821. Anandtech was able to perform quite a few tests. Naturally, I'm not gonna put everything here, but I'll put a few of the benchmarks in order to give you a good idea of how the 835 performs. First up is Geekbench 4's single threaded integer performance. Geekbench 4 - Integer Performance Single Threaded Snapdragon 835 Snapdragon 821 (% Advantage) Snapdragon 810 (% Advantage) AES 905.40 MB/s 559.10 MB/s (61.9%) 714.47 MB/s (26.7%) LZMA 3.13 MB/s 2.20 MB/s (42.3%) 1.92 MB/s (63.0%) JPEG 16.80 Mpixels/s 21.60 Mpixels/s (-22.2%) 12.27 Mpixels/s (36.9%) Canny 23.60 Mpixels/s 30.27 Mpixels/s (-22.0%) 23.63 Mpixels/s (-0.1%) Lua 1.84 MB/s 1.47 MB/s (25.2%) 1.20 MB/s (53.3%) Dijkstra 1.73 MTE/s 1.39 MTE/s (24.5%) 0.91 MTE/s (90.1%) SQLite 53.00 Krows/s 36.67 Krows/s (44.5%) 33.30 Krows/s (59.2%) HTML5 Parse 8.67 MB/s 7.61 MB/s (13.9%) 6.38 MB/s (35.9%) HTML5 DOM 2.26 Melems/s 0.37 Melems/s (510.8%) 1.26 Melems/s (79.4%) Histogram Equalization 52.90 Mpixels/s 51.17 Mpixels/s (3.4%) 53.60 Mpixels/s (-1.3%) PDF Rendering 50.90 Mpixels/s 52.97 Mpixels/s (-3.9%) 43.70 Mpixels/s (16.5%) LLVM 196.80 functions/s 113.53 functions/s (73.3%) 108.87 functions/s (80.8%) Camera 5.71 images/s 7.19 images/s (-20.6%) 4.69 images/s (21.7%) It's quite apparent integer performance was something Qualcomm focused on for Kryo 280. While the improvement over Snapdragon 820 varies from test to test, it's quite apparent Qualcomm definitely has improved. Kryo's integer performance was relatively weak compared to other SoCs, so it's nice to see that Qualcomm has caught up with the rest of the market here. Moving on, we have Geekbench 4's Floating Point Performance. Geekbench 4 - Floating Point Performance Single Threaded Snapdragon 835 Snapdragon 821 (% Advantage) Snapdragon 810 (% Advantage) SGEMM 11.5 GFLOPS 12.2 GFLOPS (-5.7%) 11.0 GFLOPS (4.2%) SFFT 2.9 GFLOPS 3.2 GFLOPS (-9.7%) 2.3 GFLOPS (25.2%) N-Body Physics 879.6 Kpairs/s 1156.7 Kpairs/s (-24.0%) 580.2 Kpairs/s (51.6%) Rigid Body Physics 6181.7 FPS 7171.3 FPS (-13.8%) 4183.4 FPS (47.8%) Ray Tracing 232.6 Kpixels/s 298.7 Kpixels/s (-22.0%) 130.1 Kpixels/s (78.7%) HDR 7.8 Mpixels/s 10.8 Mpixels/s (-27.6%) 6.4 Mpixels/s (21.9%) Gaussian Blur 23.4 Mpixels/s 48.5 Mpixels/s (-51.8%) 21.9 Mpixels/s (6.7%) Speech Recognition 13.9 Words/s 10.9 Words/s (27.5%) 8.1 Words/s (71.4%) Face Detection 513.8 Ksubs/s 685.0 Ksubs/s (-25.0%) 404.4 Ksubs/s (27.0%) Strangely enough, floating point performance seems to have regressed relative to Kryo. This shouldn't be too bad, since Kryo had very strong Floating Point performance, but it still is definitely a strange thing to see. I'll skip the PCMark and Java Script tests, but the 835 is essentially near if not at the top in PCMark and is consistently number 1 or 2 out of the non-Apple SoCs in the JavaScript tests. Now for the GPU tests. I won't bore you guys with all the test. Here's one that's relatively representative of the other tests: As you can see, the new Adreno 540 GPU is now probably the most powerful smartphone GPU, beating out last year's Adreno 530 as well as the PowerVR GPU used in the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. Now, onto something a bit more interesting... Power consumption! Qualcomm Power Testing - Device Level w/Fixed Workload Power Consumption SD820 Reference Phone 4.60W SD835 Reference Phone 3.56W The Snapdragon 810 really failed hard at power consumption. More insight was recently provided in Anandtech's Kirin 960 review, which you can find here. It showed, the 810 consuming around double the power of other SoCs at the same number of cores utilized (It was consuming 8 watts of power at 3 cores utilized). Snapdragon 820 was a huge jump from this, and it seems Qualcomm has further improved power efficiency with the 835. This is definitely a good step forward. The Snapdragon 835 is looking like a great evolutionary upgrade to the 820. I look forward to seeing the next generation of smartphones utilizing this SoC.

http://wccftech.com/dragonboard-820c-computer-snapdragon-820/ You're limited to Linux, but at least not with a measly 1GB of memory like on a Raspberry Pi. I think it's cool others are getting in on the SFF computer game, especially someone with the kind of financing to push it like Qualcomm (anticompetitive crap aside).

So my girlfriends phone has been lately getting really hot, especially while charging and draining the battery real quick. Like from 70% one minute to 28% the next minute. It started about a week ago, i uninstalled all useless apps and did a factory reset and it didn't help. Is this the dreaded snapdragon 810 heat issue? could this be a crappy sony update? Has anyone else gone through this?.. Ty xoxo

Samsung is stockpiling Snapdragon 835 so that the S8 will be the first phone with the chip Well this is certainly a surprise, looks like Samsung is pretty keen to not allow its competitors access to the 2017 flagship Snapdragon chip. Unfortunately it sounds like any flagships released before April will have the 821 instead.

Ok I was having this strange thought of the future of mobile computing when I realized that the market is filled with Tablets & 2-in1s be it android or Windows, but there is no full fledged Android Laptop. Now bear with me guys I know its just in my imagination but just try to imagine going to work with an ultra-book ultra light laptop running some kind of "Laptop Version" of Android within a 13 inch form factor. I thought of this when I first saw the Lenovo Yoga Book. Try to Imagine the Lenovo Yoga Book(or something looking like that) running on a snapdragon processor with 4GB Ram & ALL the bells & whistles of an ultra-book. The device will be silent & the battery back up will be incredible. I tried to Imagine 2 variants of such a hypothetical device. The Flagship Android Laptop: Dual Snapdragon 835 chips with 8GB RAM (Each chip addresses 4GB) 256/512 GB NVMe storage, 13 inch 1080p OLED touch screen Display Connectivity: 802.11 ac, Bluetooth , LTE , For I/O 1 USB 3.1 Gen2 Type-C 1 USB 3.1 Gen2 Type-A , Mic & Headphone jack, Keyboard, it might have a track pad or might not. And a huge Battery! The Entry Level Android Laptop: Snapdragon 626, 4GB RAM; 64/128 GB SATA-III SSD, 12 inch IPS Touch screen Connectivity: 802.11 ac, Bluetooth , LTE , For I/O 1 USB 3.1 Gen2 Type-C 1 USB 3.1 Gen2 Type-A , Mic & Headphone jack, Keyboard, it might have a track pad or might not. And a huge Battery! I did a Straw pole do vote your opinion http://www.strawpoll.me/12702868 Just Imagine the battery life on these devices. So I wanna know what you guys think about this topic especially that of @Linus Sebastion. Let the discussions begin. [PS: I know a lot of you will point out chrome books will support Android apps but those still run on Intel platforms & hence not applicable]

After that embarrassing misstep last year, Samsung resurrected its Galaxy Note line Wednesday with the new Galaxy Note 8. In many ways, the Galaxy Note 8 is an incremental improvement over the Galaxy S8, which launched in April. The Note 8 has a slightly larger screen, a boost in RAM, the S Pen stylus, a dual-lens camera system, and some software tricks unique to the larger form factor. Here's everything you need to know about the Note 8 : ♦ The Note 8 has a new dual-lens camera system, just like the iPhone 7 Plus ♦ The Note's S Pen is back. It lets you draw on the screen or take notes. ♦ You can run two apps at once in split-screen mode, just like you can with older Note phones. But there's a new trick in the Note ♦ The iris scanner, now standard in Samsung phones, lets you unlock the phone with your eyes. ♦ You can also unlock the phone with a selfie, but it's not as secure as a fingerprint or iris scan ♦ Like the Galaxy S8, you can dock the Note 8 with Samsung's DeX, which lets you power a desktop operating system using just your phone. Note 8 specification : Fore more you can watch this 4k review : https://www.youtube.com/embed/BySJ2OoOh9E

Looks like the new Snapdragon cpu will be debuting with Google's Pixel 2 according to this artice https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/07/23/qualcomm-snapdragon-836-debut-pixel-2/ . According to this article, it looks like the main difference between the 836 and 835 is clock speed.

Guys i'm getting a samsung galaxy book 2 that has decent specs such as: - 1440p screen - 4gb ram - LTE Network - Long battery - keyboard and stylus which are great but the problem is that I trying to find out if can you run 64bit apps and windows 10 pro 64bit and finally games that run off only 64bit windows. Its a major problem that i'm trying to find out and also tell me if I beed to boot windows 10 pro 64bit via usb and please reply for answers thank you - CyberDude274

This is a couple days late, but I figured it was worth putting here since I haven't seen it yet. TLDR: Bad remote exploit, fixed in latest patch. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/qualpwn-bugs-in-snapdragon-soc-can-attack-android-over-the-air/ Licensees were informed in June that this was an issue and that software patches would be forthcoming. Those went out in the latest Android update. So, it you can, update. This is also a good reason to be on a properly supported phone, rather than just a cheap Android or one that is stuck on a carrier based OS variant. Pointed out in a little more roundabout way from the article. For those interested in further details, and possibly other related exploits, more should become available at blackhat tomorrow. https://www.blackhat.com/us-19/briefings/schedule/index.html#exploiting-qualcomm-wlan-and-modem-over-the-air-15481

Okay, so basically I'd love to know what chipsets are best. Not just in general, but for different price ranges of smartphones, such as mid-range, budget, etc. To start, my phone has a snapdragon 425 (yikes), and it would be great to know how newer budget or mid-range chipsets compare.

Why is Apple not using its incredibly powerful processor (a12x) in macs while windows is working on mobile smartphones like snapdragon 850??

Snapdragon 660 has a clock speed of 2.2Ghz But some mobile manufacturer are giving snapdragon 660 in their phones but that 660 chips are clocked @ 1.95Ghz.... Will it effect the performance of the phone? If yes then how much?.. (It has Stock android, and coupled with 3, 4 or 6GB of ram)

What are the threads in a CPU?

So I live in Australia. The Oppo Reno 5G is currently $600AUD. The S20+ 5G is currently $1200 in the Samsung Education store (with the possibility of going down to $1050 if the 35% sales happen again like they usually do. Keep in mind the Australian model S20+ doesn't support mmwave so their 5g capabilities are the same. Keep in mind budget is a factor for me. Cameras are very important to me and they seem to be of similar quality, maybe better on the Reno given the true optical zoom of 5x is stronger than tthe S20's 1.07x (true optical not hybrid optical). Given it seems the downgraded chip of Exynos 990 seems like it could actually be comparable to the SD 855, I'm just wondering whether you think the S20's features are worth the price difference. From what I can tell the main draws of the S20+ would be: 120hz refresh rate Waterproofing Quicker updates An extra year of software support? UFS 3.0 Supposedly better OS (ColorOS is getting good tho and maybe the Oppo can be fixed with a launcher?) A brighter HDR10+ screen (not sure if ill notice this on a phone) Extra 4GB of RAM (12GB - probably overkill tho) However these do come at the cost of 128GB of storage and flash on the selfie camera. For me the lack of 120hz refresh on the Oppo is the main factor making the decision hard. Do you think these advantages on the S20+ have a real world difference and are they worth an extra $450-600?

Hey guys so bassicly in your opinion which is the best phone in this price segment ? Talking only about this years phones and upcoming this summer. I need some recommendations main priorities quickcharging bluetooth 5 and good performance. Battery life isn't that important as i carry powerbank everywhere screen ofc has to be fhd or better and i would preffer headphone jack and no notch.

Hey guys, so i recently Upgraded (yea lol) my HTC M7 wich died after a horrible drop (kinda), and a friend sold me his older Nexus 6, it is gorgeous, the perfect phone for me, except, it randomly powers down, and its even SLOWER than my Older M7, its supposed to be twice as fast at least!, i even got a Qi wireless charger for it, and i noticed that after sitting in the pad charging for a while and getting warmer, the phone is blazing fast it never stutters or lags anymore, but then again on regular use it stutters and lags alot, as i check CPU-Z it shows that 99% of the time 2 cores are "stopped" while the other 2 ar locked at 1.9ghz, its running android 7.1.1 but i mean c'mon why is this so slow, my HTC M7 had no problem whatsoever running anything

https://www.asus.com/us/2-in-1-PCs/ASUS-NovaGo-TP370QL/ New laptop featuring LTE and long lasting battery running full windows 10 also comes with a stylus purchased separately thought?