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  1. Please delete if retoast. The german techsite heise.de hits a potential releasedate for Ryzen. Source: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Kerniges-zum-Karneval-AMD-Ryzen-kommt-wohl-am-28-Februar-3597324.html Now to keep it real: As long as AMD doesn't confirm a release date, it's just speculation. However, if AMD keeps to the plan of releasing Ryzen in Q1, this would be a good time. Now, there are no information weather this is just the paper-launch or the actual launch. Also wasn't there a contest where you could win a Ryzen CPU that ends early February?
  2. I'm as excited as the next guy about AMD's new lineup of graphics cards/CPUs (mostly the CPUs), but I don't see myself switching. First I'll point out the BF1 demo Linus saw at CES in his AMD Ryzen video. He tried to hide it, but you could see the game in the 70s on the intel platform and 50s on the amd platform. This was with intel's 6900k which, to most, would seem like it would be better for gaming than a 6700k, but it's per core performance is slightly lower than its "lesser", but more capable, skylake buddy. Vega, looks cool too. Though we didn't get to see an amd/intel in the graphics department, that Doom demo was pretty impressive. I don't really have a "team", but I do use an intel CPU because they are objectively better, and I use an Nvidia GTX 1080 because it, aside from the titan XP, reigns king over all cards. For me to switch to Ryzen, the processsor would have to beat out my 4790 and be under 200. For me to switch to vega, well, it would have to out perform the 1080 and be under $400. If I was building a new computer, and I had to pick between vega and a 1080, they would have to be in a few frames of each other and vega would have to be less, but not by much, maybe $50 USD. What would it take for YOU to switch?
  3. Im ready for CPU and you? And memories at older times witrh Vishera or small strong 5150 Athlon
  4. I have an upcoming mini ITX build that's becoming a headache nailing down a CPU. Main thing is I already have a solid gaming machine, this is a portable 2nd machine for when I'm away from home. Mini ITX is essential and I want to keep the budget within reason. I just want to play my existing games with reasonable settings, and 1080p/60fps. Nothing crazy. Already got a spare GTX 960 to put inside it, with a GTX 1060 going into it in the future. At the same time I want to avoid significant CPU bottlenecks. I don't play tons of open world games but I do play GTA5 a lot. My main plan is to buy something like an i5 7400/7500 and mini-itx motherboard with built in wi-fi. However there are other possible ways to go on this: 1) Cheap i3 CPU and upgrade down the line. I'm trying to avoid paying over £150 for the CPU if I can avoid it. This new G4560 with hyperthreading sounds like a worthy budget contender too 2) The upcoming AMD Ryzen CPUs. There's the possible Ryzen chips themselves offering i5-level performance significantly cheaper, or the resulting competition forcing Intel to drop the price of Kaby Lake i5s. The 2nd one would normally be a no brainer but there's a further consideration. I've been planning this portable gaming machine for a while and was aiming to have it done around the end of January. If I build it before Ryzen is released and CPU prices drop I'm going to feel like a dipshit. On the other hand, if I wait and AMD push back the release date of Ryzen, or everything releases on schedule and these cheaper CPUs just don't happen (for either Intel or AMD), and I've waited for nothing (or I'm waiting indefinitely for AMD to release Ryzen chips), then I'm going to feel like a dipshit. As it stands I can't find any solid details regarding the Ryzen release date or pricing. I'm not even 100% sure if there will be any AM4 mini-itx mobos, potentially making all of this moot. it's a weird position I'm in. I just want to make a decision one way or the other so I can nail down my parts from specific retailers and be ready to build it in a few weeks. I can maybe wait into Feb but there's no guarantee Ryzen will have dropped by now Any advice/perspective on this is much appreciated
  5. So basically, I'm looking at doing a new build... but after reading the initial kaby lake stuff it's got me thinking if its time to pull the trigger or not. Should I wait a little bit and see what happens with Ryzen? 1. I hate to always be chasing the next best thing. 2. I haven't had an AMD product (CPU or GPU) in ages. To suddenly put plans on hold for the magical gear that might be from AMD seems, well, a little odd. I was going to go 7700k... but I'm second guessing now. Thoughts?
  6. Stumbled on this article about the upcoming RYZEN release date, lets keep our fingers crossed. https://www.extremetech.com/computing/242649-amds-ryzen-sort-gets-release-date
  7. So I know all the new AM4 "Ryzen ready" Motherboards are showing up as CES today, There's like 6 videos on it in my youtube feed, as well a ton of artcles online I'm sure. One question I didn't haven't seen answered is what older chips is going to be supported on the new platform? I know I saw somewhere that they're going to be re-releasing AM4 compatible versions of older chips, but I never saw list of the chips that are going to be released. Edit: Okay I'm even more confused now, I just finished watching the Paul's Hardware video and he said they were going to reconfigure the current 7th gen APUs for AM4
  8. Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11031/amd-set-to-launch-ryzen-before-march-3rd-meeting-q1-target If you want to see for yourself go here. Q1 2017 ends on March 31st, so this means that we can now narrow down the launch date of Ryzen most likely to something before March. My personal guess is that AMD will most likely host their own event to announce Ryzen, since the only large event I can think of for gaming and hardware around that time is PAX East. But PAX East is after GDC. What are you guy's thoughts?
  9. Hey all, Like a lot of people, i'm planning Mobo, CPU and RAM upgrade, thought not instantly, probably few months down the line. I would be interested to hear what the current landscape looks like when it comes to these parts, and how/if things have changed since around 2013 when I got this build. Edits: If its not fully clear from text above: I'm planning to get all of these new parts at once, some months in future. So first of all, my current specs: Asus Z87-K EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Intel i5-4670K @ 4.00GHz HyperX Savage DDR3 1600 C9 2x4GB Samsung 850 EVO 240Gb SSD Windows 10 64bit Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD Seasonic S12 II 520W BRONZE Lets move on the to the questions, shall we: #1: Motherboards Are there any changes aside from socket type I should be worried about? I'm not planning to do anything special with the motherboard. Will probably just leave it be, and maybe few years after the upgrade overclock my CPU, that's it. Are there any new must have new features I should be aware about? I'm *probably* just grabbing some Asus motherboard for my upgrade, something like Asus PRIME B250-PLUS (Because its cheap). #2: RAM DDR4. 16Gb. That's my plan so far. How much should I be concerned about the RAM speed? Or should I be concerned at all. Whats the "Go to gamer RAM" these days. #3: CPU Probably the most important discussion. Ryzen, details are still mostly unknown and hype is strong, really excited to see what comes out of this, but since its not out yet, pretty hard to get reliable stats and opinions, so we shall move onto whats actually out right now: Kaby Lake. While there was understandably salt being thrown around about this CPU line, for me its the most reasonable place to go with my next CPU. So the question I have is the age old "i5 vs i7". For longest time "i5 is good enough for gaming" was thrown around, but now, i'm not so sure. Games such as Witcher 3 benefit from i7's and i7 are becoming the standard in the recommended CPU section of game system requirements. Few months ago I made an thread discussing the bottleneck of my CPU and got some interesting answers regarding the i5 V i7 debate: So, with the new generation of CPU's from intel, does still still hold true: I would see gains from i7 grade CPU on build with GTX 1070. While i7-7700K is 120€ more expensive than i5-7600K, I fear that if I cheap out here, I will run into same bottleneck problems few years down the line, as i'm having now. The idea is to have an upgrade that will last me next 3-5 years, no sweat. Thanks for reading. Feel free to suggest me any parts you think would suit me in this situation. Also, as an reminder: I'm not going to upgrade now. Probably around June, or July, so don't start berating me about not waiting for Ryzen to release ;). I'm in no hurry, I just want to get the feel of the modern CPU,RAM,MOBO landscape.
  10. Now that VEGA and RYZEN are almost upon us its the first time in 5 years I am actually considering doing a new AMD themed build (If performance is there). I am curious on how many people are planning on doing a VEGA/RYZEN and waiting out the next months, or are planning on still going INTEL now and just upgrading the CPU (IE GTX 1080 TI for example). Personally if the architecture works as indicated, I may be a AMD builder again. I am not a fanboy of either, for me it's all about performance for price. But what does the community think?
  11. Hey guys, (new guy here) I'm looking to build a gaming RYZEN rig. I know it hasn't released yet but it will in the coming weeks and I just want to prep for the whole build. I'm having a tough time choosing a graphics card Gtx1060 3gb or RX480. Firstly, I'm just into competitive gaming like dota2 and csgo and not really into AAA titles other than a few games like GTA V. It's mostly rendering / designing stuff but I intend to play such games too once schools (2017 q2) done. So if I go with the gtx1060, I'll upgrade it to Vega once Vega is out in late June. If I go with rx480, I'll upgrade it to Vega like next year or even later. Also, I have a freesync monitor 1080p (60hz). But i do prefer staying under the 200$ mark for the GPU. Also, can the rx480 be crossfired with Vega ? I need suggestions! Thank you for your response.
  12. As the title says, do you guys think that they will come with wraith coolers? i mean all SKUs? unlike the old amd processors? what do you think?
  13. Ok I was wondering, my pcs are due for an upgrade, disclaimer work pcs. So I have 3 option, upgrade them: 1)Intel again 2)Go for Ryzen 3) Go Apple and regret it. Truth be told I am dying to,make the switch and the WS are,long due for an upgrade, naught them used parts and my own scrap parts 3 years ago. The question is this, without knowing the price of ryzen, how much would you be willing to pay for X99 counterparts for 75-85% lets say of the performance. Just as a reference I need 2 light Ws for sales/ planning and project management stuff, 2 more for Cad design and light bed editing and my own for doing all of the above and some testing regarding business gear and server duties for the Business. What would you be willing to pay???
  14. Hi guys i just wanted to ask the community what would be a good cpu to pair with msi gtx1070 i was going to get a kabylake 7700k but it seems like it yields the same performance as a 6700k in gaming,currently have i5 4460 ,i also heard amd is realeasing there new ryzen cpu with comparable performance to intel cpus one reason i was thinking of going amd is because it would pretty much match the red theme of amd with my msi colors from the roots of the hardaare but if not ill just go with a red untel build oh and also the the pricing of those cpus but idk if the pricing is said yet ive just read rumors nothing conclusive but is also set to launch this year a long with canon lake in the 2nd half of the year so idk intel have been dominating the market for so long but now that i read the capabilities of the there new cpu im kind of indecisive after seing there demonstration againts a 6900k
  15. Currently I'm rocking a solid i5-3440 on an old ASUS board. I'm looking at upgrading it to match my GTX 1070 but I'm not sure whether I should jump right now onto the i5-7600K with Z170 motherboard, or wait for AMD Ryzen and go with that. I'm in no hurry to upgrade, but definitely interested in what your thoughts are for upgrades.
  16. I want to upgrade my i7-3770, but I'm debating whether to get an i7-7700k now and overclock it, or wait for Ryzen. I will use it for gaming but also for probably a lot of video encoding. I'm asking because I've seen Ryzen competing with the i7-6900k and beating it by 5 seconds (I want to encode a lot of files, so that would probably be big), and I've been wondering, what will the difference be if I overclock the 7700k.
  17. I recently purchased a GTX 1050 Ti. Should I have waited for Ryzen/Vega for a low budget card?
  18. So I don't have a "news source" for this but rather is based of logic and a tweet from Ian Cutress who writes the CPU and Motherboard reviews for Anandtech, a very reputable tech news and reviews source out there that NEVER publishes any leaks; only official info. This is the tweet: From this we can tell that this is a review sample of a product that has not been released yet and is a CPU or motherboard. A motherboard most likely wouldn't be important enough to warrant such a tweet, especially a "Launch Day Review." Therefore, it must be a CPU. He also said "redacted," which shows it must be something that can't be disclosed. This leads us with Skylake-E, possibly Xeon Phi, and Ryzen. Kaby Lake reviews have already come out, and Ian has already tweeted something about him with Knight's Landing. Which leaves us with Skylake-E and Ryzen. We haven't heard anything about Skylake-E, and Ryzen is slated for launch within the next 3 months, which leads me to believe it is a Ryzen CPU that he is talking about. So this means that AMD is already sending out review samples of the Ryzen CPUs. Very interesting... Chances are we'll also see a CES demo of Ryzen (I remember AMD has two slots for events at CES, perfectly fitting Zen and Vega). Do you guys think then that we may get a release within the next one or two months then? Also, mods, if you believe this doesn't fit, then move it to General or CPUs&Motherboards instead.
  19. I know everything is only rumoured and any information is only speculation but, does anyone reckon that AMD will release a chip that has a similar price, or lower, for a similar performance to compete with Intel's i5 lineup. I was wanting to build a PC in January and thought I'd hold off until CES to see what is brought to the public. I have only seen Ryzen chips that are being stacked up against higher end i7's from Intel that go for around $1000. Is there any chance they will release a chip that will be around $200 - 250 or that's similar to core i5 performance. Edit: I understand there will be no answer to this, but going off AMDs past releases. Will this be likely?
  20. Give your honest opinion and tell if you want to upgrade to either of these when they release.
  21. Anybody tried this out? Here is my result https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-ryzen-blender-benchmark-scores-thread.1919896/
  22. So, what do we think this one will be lads? 300? 200? dare I say 100?
  23. (TL;DR at bottom) So, all the hype around Ryzen is starting to cool off. As I staved off boredom today, looking back through older Linustechtips videos, I came across the 7 Gamers 1 CPU video and decided to watch the original instead, going all the way back to the 2 Gamers 1 CPU video. Watching this video reminded me of the time when this video had just come out and, being a teenager without a six-figure income, I had tried to find out if it was cheaper to make this rig instead of two identical performance-matched rigs. In short, the answer was no, with the CPU being the main cost restriction. The price delta going from a consumer 4 core up to an 8 core was too much on Intel's side, and AMD's FX 8xxx or 9xxx offerings simply wouldn't run that well on 4 cores per rig. This stumbling block made me a little bit sad, as the idea of sharing certain components between two rigs to save money seemed like it had a lot of potential. But here comes Ryzen. While we should be taking the pricing rumours with a grain of salt, all I can do is wait and hope that AMD will make the right move and force Intel into a pricing war. So without further ado… 2 GAMERS 1 CPU INTEL: PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x42sVY Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x42sVY/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Core i7-6900K 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor ($999.99 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($105.99 @ NCIX US) Motherboard: Asus X99-E ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($208.99 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Kingston FURY 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($162.98 @ PCM) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ B&H) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ B&H) Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.88 @ OutletPC) Other: 2 x Windows 10 Home License ($200.00) Other: UnRAID Plus License ($89.00) Total: $3268.08 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 19:49 EST-0500 INDIVIDUAL RIG INTEL: PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dftDQV Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dftDQV/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($105.99 @ NCIX US) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.89 @ OutletPC) Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($103.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($399.99 @ B&H) Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.88 @ OutletPC) Other: Windows 10 Home License ($100.00) Total: $1597.86 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 19:53 EST-0500 I chose an i7 6900K on Intel's side because AMD has been keen to compare their 8/16 top model Ryzen CPU with it, and their benchmarks show they are fairly equal in terms of performance. As You can see from the parts list, by only changing the necessary components between a 2 PC rig and a normal rig, the 2 PC rig is just over double the price of the single rig. This defeats the cost benefit of the double rig. But what if we went with a Ryzen CPU for both rigs? This will involve a bit of guessing, as there is no set price on Ryzen CPUs or on any AM4 motherboards as of yet. For the CPUs, we’ll go with the rumoured USD $500 for the 8 core and USD $350 for the 4 core. For the AMD motherboard, we’ll go with a worst case scenario pricing-wise, and price it at USD $200 - Roughly the same as the X99 motherboard (enthusiast platform) used in the Intel double rig. 2 GAMERS 1 CPU AMD: PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gN7NYr Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gN7NYr/by_merchant/ CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($105.99 @ NCIX US) Memory: Kingston FURY 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($162.98 @ PCM) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ B&H) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ B&H) Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.88 @ OutletPC) Other: 2 x Windows 10 Home License ($200.00) Other: UnRAID Plus License ($89.00) Other: AMD Ryzen 8 Core CPU ($499.00) Other: Nondescript AM4 ATX Motherboard ($199.00) Total: $2757.10 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 20:16 EST-0500 INDIVIDUAL RIG AMD: CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($105.99 @ NCIX US) Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($103.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($399.99 @ B&H) Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.88 @ OutletPC) Other: Nondescript AM4 ATX Motherboard ($199.00) Other: AMD Ryzen 4 Core CPU ($349.00) Other: Windows 10 Home License ($100.00) Total: $1690.98 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 20:24 EST-0500 On AMDs side things get more interesting. There actually is a substantial saving going from an individual rig to a double rig. This is due to AMDs (theoretically priced) offerings. These rumoured prices follow the business model of getting more bang for your buck as you buy higher tier models (while the jump from a 6700K to a 6900K is over double the price). This, combined with the fact that the AM4 platforms unifying these different models means there will be no delta in motherboard pricing. This results in the possibility of 2 Gamers 1 CPU now being a viable money saving option, even with the added cost of an unRAID Plus License. Of course, this is all hypothetical. This could well go down the drain if AMD prices Ryzen similar to Intel's current offering. But hey! One can hope! What are your thoughts on this? (Please let me know if I've made a typo or mistake somewhere) TL:DR (Going from rumoured pricing of USD$500 and $350 for Ryzen's 8-core and 4-core CPUs respectively) A Ryzen based 2 Gamers 1 CPU machine offers a substantial per-rig discount over a Ryzen based normal rig, while Intel's current offerings mean that an Intel based 2 Gamers 1 CPU machine is less economically viable per-rig over an Intel based normal rig. Ryzen may well make 2 Gamers 1 CPU a lucrative possibility. EDIT - HTML bits didn't work. Replaced with normal text.
  24. They've been leaked, we can finally see how well Ryzen will perform against it's opponents. The benchmarks are done in Cinebench R15 with Ryzen getting a total score of 1188 beating the 7700K which sits at 966 Cinebench R15 results: AMD Ryzen - 1188 Core i7-7700K - 966 Core i7-7700K @ 5GHz - 1083 Core i7-6900K - 1500 Core i7-6950X - 1800 source; TweakTown