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  1. I don't plan on doing this but dou you think you could stack radiators if you had the space in your case. My explanation may be a bit hard to follow, so sorry for that. I was thinking that you could mount two radiators one on top of each other with a layer of static pressure fans in between. If you had the room. So if you were to mount the rads in the top of your case and run the tubing coming from say the CPU to the top radiator first and then to the bottom radiator followed by the next component in the loop. I thought that the fluid would need to go through the top rad first because if the fluid was to go through the bottom rad first the heat being transferred to the air would warm up the cool fluid in the top rad. I just thought this would be an interesting concept so please let me know what you think an feel free to tell me if you didn't understand my explanation.
  2. Hello fellow PC Enthusiasts! I decided to share my experience with you guys concerning Radiator placement in a Custom Waterloop. Ive been searching a pretty long time now but every1 is just talking about a single Radiator or an AIO, and i havent found any information regarding multiple Radiators inside a "standard" ATX case. Im currently running a 3600X compared with a Vega 64 (LC BIOS) in a single loop, which we all know is a pretty power hungry and hot graphics card. Case: Fractal R6 Watercooling Parts: Phobya DC12-400 Pump Alphacool Radiators EKWB Supremacy Evo CPU Block Aquacomputer Kryographics Vega 64 Waterblock. At first i was running this configuration: 280x40 Radiator intake Front 360x30 Radiator exhaust Top 1x140 Fan exhaust Back Temperatures under full load (CPU+GPU) after 25min: CPU - 78°C GPU Hotspot - 93°C Water - almost 50°C Pump Speed - 1200 RPM Fan Speed Top - 1350 RPM Fan Speed Front - 1000 RPM. I stopped the workload because the Water Temperature reached 50°C. From all ive seen this is the "standard" or most common configuration if you run a dual Radiator setup. Since we all care about Airflow, we seek to have a little positive pressure inside the case so we can minimize dust buildup. In this scenario i was a bit on the negative side regarding pressure. But it was ok. But after seeing those Temperatures i wondered: Why is my Water Temperature increasing that much with 640mm Radiator surface? I talked to a Physician at my University and he told me that the Top Radiator will have almost no impact on cooling because of the front mounted Radiator. Because of the small delta between Water Temperature and the Air Temperature that is coming out of the Front radiator AND going through the Top Radiator, the cooling performance will be significant lower. I then decided to do another Test configuration: 2x 140mm Fan intake Front 1x 140mm Fan intake Bottom 360x30 Radiator exhaust Top 140x30 Radiator exhaust Back Temperatures under full load (CPU+GPU) after 25min: CPU - ~68°C GPU Hotspot - 79°C Water - 42°C Pump Speed - 1200 RPM Fan Speed Top - 1300 RPM Fan Speed Exhaust - 900 RPM. Air pressure inside the case is stabilized. With a little smoke test i could not detect any gaps sucking Air inside the case. But still - im not very pleased with those numbers. I now ordered another 360x30 Radiator and will try following: 2x 140mm Fan intake Bottom 1x 140x30 exhaust Back 1x 360x30 exhaust Top 1x 360x30 exhaust Front I know that i will be highly on the negative side regarding Case pressure, but its a sacrifice im willing to take to lower my Component temperatures especially the GPU Temperature. I will update this thread once the parts have arrived and i installed them. For now i just wanted to share my experience so far, and tell you that a front mounted radiator is not always the best way to go if you run multiple Radiators inside your case. I will update this thread with new numbers once i get the parts. Edit: spelling.
  3. How many radiator does the Praxis WetBenchSX Complete Edition support https://www.primochill.com/products/praxis-wetbenchsx-complete-edition?_pos=1&_sid=86004b9ea&_ss=r
  4. hi. anyone here have any experience with Fractal Design Define 7 XL? I'm trying to piece together a new build and would like to use the Define 7 XL, but I'm wondering if it will fit with an EK PE480 in the top and an EK PE360 in the front together. The specs lists the maximum radiator sizes as 480 in the top and also 480 in the front, but would love to put 2 rads in. I also have the EK PE360 in my current build that I would like to transfer to this new build. Other option I'm considering is EK CE420 in the top and a EK CE420 in the front if that fits (otherwise an EK 280 in the front)
  5. Bassically i'm buying a new GPU (RTX 2060S rog strix) and it's preety big, and also i'm buying a watercooling AIO for my CPU (CLC 280mm). My case is really cheap and old so the hard drive bay is on the way of the graphics card, and there is no radiator mount (I'm buying another case in the future but... I don't wanna wait to get the money for it) so I'm going to do some "modding????????" and it's not for look but for usability. I'm going to disarm my computer get all the components out, clean it all drill the holes, clean the case and finally put it all back together + do the cable managment (I didn't buld it) It's an ugly build and I'm going to be upgrading it part by part for the next 2 years or so... PS: Sorry for my broken english it's not my first languaje PS2: I know the graphics card model is too expensive but in my country it's about the same price Is this fine? Any recommendations?
  6. I want to add a noctua 200 to two 240 full copper radiators using custom mountings. Springs from each corner of the fan to the outer corners of the Radiators with suitable screws to fix it in place. My only concern is about the difference between a one 200 mm fan and four 120 mm fans regarding efficiency. Knowing that: 200mm has a 150 CFM, direct contact area is π x r² » π x 10 = 314 Sq cm 120mm has a 107 CFM, direct contact area of four fans is 4 x π x r² = 452 Sq cm I just multiplied the CFM by the area affected to determine the difference between both methods: 200mm ». 150 CFM x 314 Sq cm = 47100 4 x120mm »107 CFM x 452 Sq cm = 48364 I don't know what are the final numbers but i think that they determine the difference between two methods.. Are my calculations correct? If they were correct then there will be no difference regarding cooling performance. But way less noise with the big fan and probably a better performance in real life, plus the easier control with just one cable and less power consumption of course. Thank you for reading and answering Please see the image provided
  7. My CPU Temps have been climbing up recently so I'm replacing my old cooler. I wanted to get a bigger radiator but I will have to put the radiator between the case and the filter. But then I don't see How I am going to route the tubing through. Also It's a sealed cooler so I can't just drill away.
  8. Recently I bought a coolermaster ML360 AIO and 3 MF120R Fans to act as additional chassis fans. When the ML360 fans are spinning at above 50% speed it generates a lot of noise it almost sounds like a shaver. I have tried to reseat both the radiator and the fans but they still make that noise. I have tried attaching different numbers of fans and it still makes that noise regardless of position. This video demonstrates the noise the ML360 AIO creates https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED4xVWvUbu8 Afterwards I tried replacing the fans that came with the AIO with the MF120R fans. These performed slightly better but are still quite noisy. They produce a low humming noise that can be heard from across the room and comes and goes whenever they are working above 50% speed. I am not sure if this is normal or not but the humming is very jarring when my fans fluctuate from 50%-70% workload and the noise keeps changing. Below 50% workload the fans begin to create a rattling sound. My old Cooler Master Nepton 240M was never this noisy no matter what speed the fans were on. This video demonstrates the noise the MF120R fans create , you may have to turn up the volume for this one as it is a low humming noise that comes and goes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNDh8rqswbs and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcQW79d4-Kw Are these normal for the fans and the radiator or did I get a bad AIO? Should I look to RMA the AIO as well as the chassis fan?
  9. I have no plans to start building my new PC in a couple of weeks, possibly even months from now, anyways I‘m already playing with the possible build in my head. So now I‘ve come to a question, I really can‘t find any answers online, what’s kind of surprising to me as I thought, that’s a rather common question. Assuming I use an overclocked Ryzen 9-3950X and dual OC RTX 2080TI I think Dual 360x60 radiators provide plenty enough cooling. Now I’m thinking about where to put these. The only possible solutions are mostly one rad at the top and one at the front. Pretty much everybody suggests only using radiator fans as intakes. Is it the same for dual radiators and isn’t it a little too much positive air pressure only having one 140 as outtake at the back of the case?
  10. So I wanted to build a custom water cooling loop for my cpu and gpu in my NZXT S340 case but I had a few questions about the radiator and fans. First my pc specifications: motherboard x470 gaming plus CPU ryzen 5 2600 six core OC to 3.9 ghz(maybe a bit higher with water cooling) GPU RX 590 Sapphire nitro + ddr5 8 gb (hoping to overclock it's frequency with water cooling) 2 NZXT case fans RAM Ripjaws 16gb(2x8) 3200mhz So I know the case supports a 280mm or 240mm radiator at the front, a 120mm at the top and another 120mm at the back. So my questions were: Do I have to buy 3 radiators(a 280mm and two 120mm) or can i just buy a 280mm radiator and compensate with radiator height, and if so, how tall should my radiator be to cool my cpu and gpu? Can I place the radiator(s) with the fans facing the inside of the case?(I'm buying RGB fans so I wanted them to be visible from the front panel). Note that i am overclocking both the cpu and gpu.
  11. I try to find a case that supports 2 360mm radiators and that has a good interior space
  12. Hi, I’m looking to get an AIO for my PC, but I already have fans installed in the front of my case and was wondering if it was possible to install those fans on one side of the radiator and the fans that come with the AIO on the other side, or is it even worth it? Thanks for any help!
  13. im wondering if i need a radiator for my build ryzen 5 2600x msi b450 tomahawk max evga geforce rtx 2060 ko ultra gaming phanteks p350x 3 rosewill hyperborea 89.5 cfm pwm 140mm(2 in front, 1 on top, default case fan at rear) if u think i need a radiator, pls reccomend me one how much does a radiator improve temperatures?
  14. I recently bought the matrexx 70 and I was wondering what was the best configuration of the fans to have the best airflow possible.The box has several places for fans, 3 in front, 3 above, 1 behind and 2 below towards the front. (attached image)(PS: the components on image are only as a model, my configuration is written if you need) I have 6 deepcool rgb cf120 fans and and 2 others normal 120mm fan if necessary. However I must consider my 120mm h60 corsair aio and find it the best place for efficiency.Would a push-pull configuration be better for my aio? CONFIG(if necessary): CPU: Intel Core i5 @ 2.90GHz RAM: 16,0 Go Dual-Channel Unknown @ 3200mhz Motherboard: Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. Z370P D3-CF (U3E1) GPU: 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti (Gigabyte) (WINDFORCE 2 FANS) Storage: 238GB Samsung SSD 860 PRO 256GB (SATA (SSD)) 1863GB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164 (SATA ) Thank you, I await your recommendation
  15. Hi all, My current setup in a P350X case is a front mounted 240mm radiator with 2x Blacknoise PL-PS fans pushing air through. I have an Akasa AK-FN059 as the rear exhaust set to 800RPM so it is silent and the stock Phanteks fan as a top exhaust also around 700RPM. I was wondering since I have an old spare AK-FN059 would it be better to have these as the 2 radiator fans as they have 2.98 mm H2O static pressure vs the 1.42 mm max of the PL-PS? Obviously the PL-PS are supposed to be quieter but that's a potential 52% increase in pressure. Or would I be better off putting 2 Noctua NF-A12x25 as the radiator fans, proving to run quiet and rated at 2.34 mm H2O SP. Or do you have another suggestion on how I should configure? Fan Overview AK-FN059: 83.63CFM / 2.98mm H2O / 28.9 dBA NF-A12x25: 60CFM / 2.34mm H2O / 22.6 dBA Blacknoise PL-PS: 50CFM (I think) / 1.42mm H2O / 23.7 dBA
  16. Hello guys , can you please Tell me where does this cable goes , in with one of this slots, thanks ! It is a cable with one wire and 3 holes to plug it in something , sorry i don’t know how to call it , lol , it’s from the cpu cooler
  17. Hello, I just want to know if the ram will fit because I think it will not , maybe you guys know , i don’t have the ram yet cause .. money lmao ... if it will not fit , what can I do ? Just to know , my finger stays straight between the coolers from radiator and the ram
  18. Are dual 120mm radiators as effective as a single 240mm radiator and would a 120mm and 240mm be fine together in a dual config
  19. Will this case be able to hold a ATX Mobo with a beefy 800g cooler in place? The case is quite compact and has good radiator support. Its made by a local company and the steel thickness is same as a CM Mb511. The thing that bothers me is the big cutout behind the mobo which extends past the Screw holes.
  20. Hey, I'm quite new to pc building and I have an AIO liquid cooler. I was wondering if it is okay to just unscrew and put new fans on my Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240R. I assume it is, but I just want to check that water wont leak onto the rest of my pc therefore ruining my new pc. (Assuming the fans are the same size. I want to do this because I want to have all my rgb devices be from corsair so that I can do all of the lighting effect in the ICUE software.
  21. Hey guys, this is my first post here so I am sorry if I chose the wrong topic. Here's my problem: I already have a Nzxt h510 case and the msi rtx 2070 super gaming x trio. Because the gpu is really long (32,5 cm I think) I am not sure if an AIO will actually fit. I am interested in nzxt kraken 240mm or enermax 240 aio and I would really like to have the fans inside so you can see them. The best way I thought of was to mount the radiator in the front behind the mounting bracket and have the fans on the inside of the bracket. So the bracket would be between radiator and fans. There should be enough room to fit the tubes through the bracket but I am concerned about the Temps of the cpu. I would appreciate your help.
  22. Hey guys, I want to rebuild my pc. Whats best for temps in those cases: 1 EK CoolStream XE with 3 Noctua NF A12x25 vs 1 EK CoolStream PE with 6 Noctua Fans, Push Pull What do you think about the rad brand? What brand do you consider best brand? - Vel0X
  23. So, in the near future i am going to buy a new GPU and an AIO cooler for my CPU. I have decided to go with one of GIGABYTE's waterforce cards since I don't want to have to go through the stress of setting up a custom loop. Anyway my question is, if i were to have these two components in my rig then it would involve two radiators (CPU: 280mm, GPU: 240mm). My case can support these but i was just wondering about placement. Would it be best to have the CPU radiator at the front as an intake and the GPU rad as an exhaust on the back top or the other way round? There is also a 120mm exhaust fan at the back. I've also heard that having a negative air pressure inside the case is better than positive. Also what would be the best way to completely remove Radeon software/drivers as the new GPU would be Nvidia?
  24. So I have this (hypothetical) idea of how I could water cool my laptop. I’d make a custom waterblock using CAD and machine milling it and blah blah blah until I got an input and output for water to flow. Sounds great. But now how am I gonna cool the stuff? Well I have this idea of actual mounting what would be the radiator and fans to the back of laptop so it can all be still self contained. I’d mount it against the back of it so it still retains some kind of sleekness to it but how do I do that without cutting off the airflow? I’d need something like what some GPUs have. A blower style radiator. But to my knowledge nothing like that exsists. Any solutions that doesn’t involve making it it’s own unit or making it stick out a bunch?
  25. So, this is probably the first time I've ever asked a stupid question.... but... Say I happen to have a 360 Radiator in pull Config(Custom Loop) and I decide to buy an AIO 120mm Cooler for a particular component that could only be place at the front of the case where the 360Rad is? Would there be an issue installing said 120Rad(Also in pull config) onto the 360? (Also yea you can't put a screw through a radiator but I have my own dodgy way of doing it without damaging da rad.) Not even gon lie, I'm quite lazy which is why I don't want to undo the current loop and deal with bending the tubes etc to cool my Component... UPDATE: I could probably cut the tube in the AIO and make it longer to help install the 120rad to the back, but ehhhh, too much effort.
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