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Summary Ferrari and Qualcomm have announced a new partnership which results in Qualcomm's Snapdragon Logo being slapped on to the F1 race car (livery releasing shortly. F1 release season) and Qualcomm helping Ferrari with its technology in road cars. This partnership is also supposed to help Ferrari's Technological Plans in Formula 1, (which they kind of need). My thoughts I'm an avid F1 fan and I want Ferrari to do well so it's a win for me I guess. Rumours suggest Ferrari is going to do well this year due to new regualtions. I do want to add that AMD were on Ferrari's cars up to 2019 but since then have moved to Mercedes and has a stronger technical partnership. (if you use some AMD tools you might have seen the F1 car) Mercedes also has a partnership with Nvidia as well but more road cars based. Sources https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/8/22923670/ferrari-qualcomm-digital-chassis-partnership-cockpit-cars-automotive Fun fact: Ferrari only made road cars because they needed a venture to help them get more money for race cars. (Back in the day, sponsors wasn't a thing yet)
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Summary Apple has started designing it’s own 5G modems. They bought Intel’s modem manufacturing, then ditched Intel processors, and now they’re looking to get rid of Qualcomm. I guess they’re tired of paying licensing fees. Quotes My thoughts It looks like they’re trying to get into making all of their own chips, possibly to avoid licensing fees, and certainly to increase profits. Who knows, if this works out, they might even start selling chips to other manufacturers. Probably not, though. In retrospect, I think they’ll just use it to quash Right to Repair. Sources https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-10/apple-starts-work-on-its-own-cellular-modem-chip-chief-says?sref=9hGJlFio
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Summary Qualcomm is reported in the works of making a new ARM chip to compete with Apple’s M1 Quotes Since at the moment, there’s nothing like the M1 in the PC world so it’s nice that Qualcomm is doing so. However, I feel that once 8cx successor arrive, it’ll be too late as Apple probably have a M1X or M2 chip with even larger caches and more transistors. It has been three years since Windows 10 was launched and until now, only a few developers made an ARM64 version of their programs. Apple devs on the other hand rushed and made universal binary versions of their apps which will run native on both Intel and AS Macs. I feel that Qualcomm’s success with their M1 competitor is in the hands of Microsoft to convince devs to embrace Windows on ARM. XDA Developers
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Summary Here are two HUGE new points Arm wants to do from 2025 onwards: • Arm will end TLAs (technology license agreements) with SoC vendors and go straight to OEMs. i.e. Sony will pay for the Arm license instead of Qualcomm • Arm will ban custom GPUs, custom NPUs, and custom ISPs if the SoC uses stock cores. i.e. no more Samsung’s Xclipse RDNA GPUs/AI Engine, Google’s Tensor NPU/ISP, MediaTek’s APU, HiSilicon’s Da Vinci NPU, Unisoc’s VDSP, … if stock Arm CPU cores are used. Arm is essentially doing what regulators feared Nvidia-owned Arm would do Quotes My thoughts I understand that ARM doesn’t make much money unlike their customers, but this is such a bad move, this feels like threats. I feel like, having lost that NVIDIA money, Softbank just want to squeeze as much money as they can get from Arm customers. Supposedly, Nvidia already has 20 year agreement for special use case, so they are not impacted but everyone else are like Samsung, Qualcomm, Mediatek, Google etc. Sources https://www.semianalysis.com/p/arm-changes-business-model-oem-partners
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Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11201/qualcomm-snapdragon-835-performance-preview/6 It seems that recently Qualcomm invited many reviewers to its San Diego HQ to test phones built around its Snapdragon 835 SoC. These are development phones made by Qualcomm for hardware and software testing, so don't get too excited. The new Snapdragon 835 is an octa core big.LITTLE CPU based on Samsung's new 10 nm LPE lithography, with the power cluster containing 4 Kryo 280 cores at 2.45 ghz and the efficiency core containing 4 Kryo 280 cores at 1.90 ghz. These cores aren't completely new designs, as evidenced by the shared "Kryo" name, but they have some improvements that should bring about higher IPC. It also has a new GPU, the Adreno 540, which should bring a pretty substantial performance improvement compared to the Adreno 530 from the Snapdragon 820 and 821. Anandtech was able to perform quite a few tests. Naturally, I'm not gonna put everything here, but I'll put a few of the benchmarks in order to give you a good idea of how the 835 performs. First up is Geekbench 4's single threaded integer performance. Geekbench 4 - Integer Performance Single Threaded Snapdragon 835 Snapdragon 821 (% Advantage) Snapdragon 810 (% Advantage) AES 905.40 MB/s 559.10 MB/s (61.9%) 714.47 MB/s (26.7%) LZMA 3.13 MB/s 2.20 MB/s (42.3%) 1.92 MB/s (63.0%) JPEG 16.80 Mpixels/s 21.60 Mpixels/s (-22.2%) 12.27 Mpixels/s (36.9%) Canny 23.60 Mpixels/s 30.27 Mpixels/s (-22.0%) 23.63 Mpixels/s (-0.1%) Lua 1.84 MB/s 1.47 MB/s (25.2%) 1.20 MB/s (53.3%) Dijkstra 1.73 MTE/s 1.39 MTE/s (24.5%) 0.91 MTE/s (90.1%) SQLite 53.00 Krows/s 36.67 Krows/s (44.5%) 33.30 Krows/s (59.2%) HTML5 Parse 8.67 MB/s 7.61 MB/s (13.9%) 6.38 MB/s (35.9%) HTML5 DOM 2.26 Melems/s 0.37 Melems/s (510.8%) 1.26 Melems/s (79.4%) Histogram Equalization 52.90 Mpixels/s 51.17 Mpixels/s (3.4%) 53.60 Mpixels/s (-1.3%) PDF Rendering 50.90 Mpixels/s 52.97 Mpixels/s (-3.9%) 43.70 Mpixels/s (16.5%) LLVM 196.80 functions/s 113.53 functions/s (73.3%) 108.87 functions/s (80.8%) Camera 5.71 images/s 7.19 images/s (-20.6%) 4.69 images/s (21.7%) It's quite apparent integer performance was something Qualcomm focused on for Kryo 280. While the improvement over Snapdragon 820 varies from test to test, it's quite apparent Qualcomm definitely has improved. Kryo's integer performance was relatively weak compared to other SoCs, so it's nice to see that Qualcomm has caught up with the rest of the market here. Moving on, we have Geekbench 4's Floating Point Performance. Geekbench 4 - Floating Point Performance Single Threaded Snapdragon 835 Snapdragon 821 (% Advantage) Snapdragon 810 (% Advantage) SGEMM 11.5 GFLOPS 12.2 GFLOPS (-5.7%) 11.0 GFLOPS (4.2%) SFFT 2.9 GFLOPS 3.2 GFLOPS (-9.7%) 2.3 GFLOPS (25.2%) N-Body Physics 879.6 Kpairs/s 1156.7 Kpairs/s (-24.0%) 580.2 Kpairs/s (51.6%) Rigid Body Physics 6181.7 FPS 7171.3 FPS (-13.8%) 4183.4 FPS (47.8%) Ray Tracing 232.6 Kpixels/s 298.7 Kpixels/s (-22.0%) 130.1 Kpixels/s (78.7%) HDR 7.8 Mpixels/s 10.8 Mpixels/s (-27.6%) 6.4 Mpixels/s (21.9%) Gaussian Blur 23.4 Mpixels/s 48.5 Mpixels/s (-51.8%) 21.9 Mpixels/s (6.7%) Speech Recognition 13.9 Words/s 10.9 Words/s (27.5%) 8.1 Words/s (71.4%) Face Detection 513.8 Ksubs/s 685.0 Ksubs/s (-25.0%) 404.4 Ksubs/s (27.0%) Strangely enough, floating point performance seems to have regressed relative to Kryo. This shouldn't be too bad, since Kryo had very strong Floating Point performance, but it still is definitely a strange thing to see. I'll skip the PCMark and Java Script tests, but the 835 is essentially near if not at the top in PCMark and is consistently number 1 or 2 out of the non-Apple SoCs in the JavaScript tests. Now for the GPU tests. I won't bore you guys with all the test. Here's one that's relatively representative of the other tests: As you can see, the new Adreno 540 GPU is now probably the most powerful smartphone GPU, beating out last year's Adreno 530 as well as the PowerVR GPU used in the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. Now, onto something a bit more interesting... Power consumption! Qualcomm Power Testing - Device Level w/Fixed Workload Power Consumption SD820 Reference Phone 4.60W SD835 Reference Phone 3.56W The Snapdragon 810 really failed hard at power consumption. More insight was recently provided in Anandtech's Kirin 960 review, which you can find here. It showed, the 810 consuming around double the power of other SoCs at the same number of cores utilized (It was consuming 8 watts of power at 3 cores utilized). Snapdragon 820 was a huge jump from this, and it seems Qualcomm has further improved power efficiency with the 835. This is definitely a good step forward. The Snapdragon 835 is looking like a great evolutionary upgrade to the 820. I look forward to seeing the next generation of smartphones utilizing this SoC.
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http://wccftech.com/dragonboard-820c-computer-snapdragon-820/ You're limited to Linux, but at least not with a measly 1GB of memory like on a Raspberry Pi. I think it's cool others are getting in on the SFF computer game, especially someone with the kind of financing to push it like Qualcomm (anticompetitive crap aside).
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As qualcomm attended the 'Gigabit LTE Experience’ along with Aussie telco Telstra, Ericsson and Netgear. Qualcomm's test results of their new x16 modem are in and it looks like we are close to reaching the 1 Gb/d speed that everyone obviously needs. A group of employees from qualcomm began displaying the results of their testing with Australian telco Telstra. The results look pretty promising, with speeds reaching 930 Mb/s on the download test, dangerously close to that 1 G mark. The tests were run on a Netgear nighthawk M1 running the chip. Qualcomm states: This is not the only thing that qualcomm can brag about. The new modem also implements the 2×2 MIMO design so you can connect up to 20 devices simultaneously. Source: http://wccftech.com/qualcomm-x16-lte-1gbps-speed-cross/
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hi guys, i was just wondering, with the new snapdragon 835 coming out, its gonna have support for quickcharge 4.0. i have an Anker 20 000 mAh battery bank with quickcharge 3.0. my question is, will it be able to charge a quickcharge 4.0 phone ? or am i rip ? thanks
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Samsung is stockpiling Snapdragon 835 so that the S8 will be the first phone with the chip Well this is certainly a surprise, looks like Samsung is pretty keen to not allow its competitors access to the 2017 flagship Snapdragon chip. Unfortunately it sounds like any flagships released before April will have the 821 instead.
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In the continuing legal saga between Apple and Qualcomm, Qualcomm is planning to petition the US International Trade Commission (ITC) to ban imports of iPhones into the US. http://www.techspot.com/news/69187-qualcomm-reportedly-asks-itc-ban-us-iphone-imports.html https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-03/qualcomm-said-to-seek-u-s-import-ban-for-iphones I severely doubt that the ITC will grant this, but if so, that could put a dent into potential iPhone sales for Apple as the US supposedly counts for something around 40% of their sales market. Seems more like a strong arm tactic by Qualcomm to get Apple to strike some kind of court settlement or deal.
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Out of curiosity, why doesn't Qualcomm enter the X86 market? I know about the licensing deals between Intel and AMD, but considering that AMD needs some cash (or did, before Ryzen, since I'm sure they're profitable now), and that AMD are the ones holding the X86 patent (iirc), why hasn't Qualcomm tried to enter the X86 market with a license deal with AMD? With Qualcomm's vast cash pool, tons of resources, and a virtual monopoly on the mobile market, I'm sure that they could've hired a few people who're experienced with X86 and developed a viable architecture. So, why haven't they?
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Link: https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/11/15255318/qualcomm-sues-apple-iphone-countersue-intel I already didn't like Apple, this just makes it worse. In January of this year, Apple filed a lawsuit against Qualcomm. They claimed that Qualcomm was charging Apple too much to use their patents. This past Monday (4/10/17), Qualcomm filed a counter-suit against Apple which stated that Apple was hindering performance on Qualcomm chipset-equipped iPhone 7's. They also claim that Apple "threatened" them into keeping thier mouths shut about the superior performance of their Qualcomm iPhone 7's versus the Intel-equipped models. Depending on how it plays out, it's possible that Apple could put out an OTA update for Qualcomm-equipped iPhones that could unlock extra performance for some lucky users. Anyone else have thoughts on how this might play out?
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Right now I been really worried about getting the Nexus 6p cause of the processor. Should I worry about the 810 processor? How powerful is the 820 against the 810?
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So apparently what Apple is doing with FaceID is actually very promising. I feel the demo that had a rough showing due to the iPhone X coming out of a fresh reboot but the later demos showed that it worked pretty reliably. Apple puts a lot of time and effort into their R&D and it really shows, regardless of how you view the company. In this year alone the A11 and FaceID are shaking things up quite a bit. It will be interesting to see how the rest of the industry picks up on what Apple is doing. TouchID popularized fingerprint passcodes and now we all have that on our phones....well....not the iPhone X . Source: http://pocketnow.com/2017/10/02/samsung-face-id-apple-kgi-why
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Hello Guys, From some days it's been trading that Microsoft is bringing "real" Windows 10 on ARM platform. I've seen their video. I came to know from various sources that the ARM PC can run all x86 apps through an x86 emulator. May be the PC will be light weight, fanless, more energy efficient. But there is one question, that is spinning in my head. That is, can it run medium to heavy loaded games? Will it deliver average FPS? I've i3 5005U laptop with 8 GB RAM. The straight forward question is the WIndows 10 ARM will over perform or below my laptop's performance? This question is whirling since Microsoft made the announcement. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance.
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Apple had a considerably bitter legal fights with Qualcomm over royalty rights for their wireless architecture that in which caused Qualcomm to withhold software for Apple's device prototype modems. This has lead Apple to endearingly want to drop Qualcomm's wireless chip manufacturing contractor arm as a supplier. Suppliers for Apple's mobile device modem components to just either just existing supplier intel or in junction with Mediatek. Qualcomm is the biggest supplier of mobile chips, with nearly all Flagship phones in the US running Qualcomm due to its high compatibility with it's wireless standard and with the US wanting to roll out 5G. The dispute is ongoing since that Apple has stop reimbursing manufacturers for Qualcomm royalties, which then imposes that those royalties were unpaid by Apple. Qualcomm chips are also very refined in matching the standards set out by Qualcomm. With some phones reaching nearly 1 gigabit in download speed while both Intel and MediaTek has yet to prove to reach just as fast. A $5 billion market is about to change for manufacturers, MediaTek has lots to benefit as they have been in the low end mobile market, making cheaper models of Qualcomm's standard than competitors. An investment pushed by Apple, as Apple normally does with manufacturers to boost quality and quantity of manufacturing, can improve MediaTek portfolio. Edit: Correction for SoC for modem chips https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/10/on-the-outs-with-qualcomm-apple-looking-at-intel-mediatek-for-modem-silicon/ Original: https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-is-designing-iphones-ipads-that-would-drop-qualcomm-components-1509408668?mod=djemalertTECH
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First news post, hope I did it correctly . Article link ----> https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/6/15930928/qualcomm-requests-iphone-import-ban This is interesting really, I don't follow these things usually but this caught my attention. The two companies seem to be in a legal battle regarding anti-competitive practices. The article is short so im going to find some other sources in the mean time. Edit/addition: A video if you are the type of person that likes watching the news and a longer article that gives more information on the topic: ----> http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/06/qualcomm-sues-over-alleged-apple-iphone-patent-infringement.html
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I have several usb peripheral and i have myself Amazon Basic powered 6 port hub, but I was wondering if there was any Data-usb hub that has quick charge port or two built in because I always choose wall charger and it is annoying to reach behind my computer to un/plug my wall charger
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With all the rumors floating around about new Apple products integrating fingerprint sensors below the screen, Qualcomm and Vivo have sort of beat them to the punch with a demo at MWC Shanghai where two demo units of Vivo's Xplay 6 (looks very similar to a Samsung Galaxy Edge) showed off the use of an underscreen and underglass/metal fingerprint sensor. Qualcomm has developed an ultrasonic fingerprint sensor that will be able to read a fingerprint underneath about a 1200 um OLED display, 800 um glass display or 650 um of aluminum. Qualcomm is planning to ship their Fingerprint sensor for glass and metal this month to OEMs and should be able to be integrated into devices using Snapdragon 630 & 660 processors. Their fingerprint sensor for displays are supposed to ship as commercial samples to OEMs in Q4 this year and should be compatible for upcoming Snapdragon and non-Snapdragon units. https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/28/vivo-qualcomm-under-display-fingerprint-reader/ So it might be interesting to see if the next iteration of the iPhone will end up coming out first with a sensor embedded in the display using a proprietary Apple Tech, if Apple licenses more Qualcomm bits to get this to market first or if another manufacturer ends up pushing it out first. Any bets on how long before we begin seeing the first lawsuits on this?
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Dear users, I'm happy that Qualcomm Atheros is supported again in Windows 10, so many users dealing with the same Issue, many gave up, even ASUS support did. The issue is soled if you go back to the Windows build that came with the PC or has that OEM key or what ever, and do a clean offline install, only installing the latest ASUS bluetooth drivers from their board support page, after installing that you can go online and do any MS update you need! It keeps that drivers as a trusted driver, getting full 4.1 BlueTooth support on it, for audio and everything. They can brand them as official BlueTooth boards again, ASUS even removed BlueTooth features on Strix and all from their official marketing, lol......
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I have just received word from a source I cannot name that IBM is preparing for a 2017 power play AGAINST silicon giant Intel in the storage and networking spaces. In its competition against the likes of EMC, NetApp, Nimble, and Pure... IBM will be SHEDDING the high cost of integrated Intel-based processors and controllers in favor of smartphone insustry giant Qualcomm offerings. I tis no secret that All-flash and Adaptive Flash storage arrays are the new standard in enterprise market and this momentum surely fuels the decision by big blue to get as much pargin in this paradigm shift as possible before CACHE storage becomes the new standard sometime in 2018. This has HUGE implication, as AMD also stands to wrench away a good chunck of the consumer market with their RYZEN (formerly Zen) product line in the next quarter. Thoughts? Concerns?
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I often hear Linus, ranting about how quick charge is bad for the battery. He claims(As far as I can tell) the battery runs hot, from the increased voltage and the battery will die. It properly will die, at some point... So this made me wonder... Is the battery feed higher voltages? When charging a RC Lipo, the voltage stays within the Lipo's spec(About 3.0-4.2v). But you charge it faster by increasing the amps, not the voltage. RC batteries(Lipo) can usually be charged at a 5C rate, and if phone lipos aren't lesser quality, they should be able to do 1C rate or more. The C charge rate, is the multiplication factor, of the batteries capacity in Ah(Amp hours, and batteries are often labeled in mAh(milliAmpere hour)) So a 3000mAh battery is 3Ah, and at 5C rate, that would mean the battery can be charged with 15A(And 3A at 1C). The good old USB spec is only supplying 500mA(0.5A) at 5V, and most off-the-shelf chargers can deliver 1-3A at 5V. I did some testing on my LG V10, and the battery only receives the "Lipo spec" voltages(3.7-3.8V at about 25% charge), while connected to a quick charge charger. On top of that, the batteries temperature stayed at about 35-40C. That means the voltage is dropped by the phone, from the 5V(Or up to 12V with quick charge 3.0) to the batteries voltage(3.7-3.8V at about 25% charge in my case). With a standard USB(0.5A at 5V) charge and the phone's battery at 3.7V, the phone can receive up to(In theory): Output from the charger: 5V * 0.5A = 2.5W Output from the phone to the battery: 2.5W / 3.7V = ~0.68A And a normal 1A charger: Output from the charger: 5V * 1.0A = 5W Output to the battery: 5W / 3.7V = ~1.35A Now lets take quick charge, at 9V and 1.0A: Output from the charger: 9V * 1.0A(Can go higher) = 9W Output to the battery: 9W / 3.7V = ~2.43A The higher the Amps the hotter the wires get, so being able to stay at 1A, keeps the wires from melting. And if the battery can sustain at least 1C charge rate, 2.43A is no problem for a 3.0Ah battery. Of course, if the batteries can't handle 1C or higher, they can die/melt/fiery inferno... So it all depends... Have the manufactures used good batteries? Try asking Samsung? ;-)
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It seems like all the new android phones these days are coming with Qualcomm Quick Charge 4+ certification but I can't find any Quick Charge 4+ chargers on the market to buy!? Does anyone know where I can buy a Quick Charge 4+ charger (in Canada specifically). I've only seen a Xiaomi and Belkin chargers on eBay and Belkin's charger is like $80CAD which is crazy. Any insight on this would be great. Thanks.
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Today we pit the Snapdragon 8cx against the Core i5-8250U. This is how the 8cx hold's up: Benchmarked configurations: Unnamed competitor laptop. Intel Core i5-8250U 8GB RAM 256GB NVMe Storage 2K resolution display (2048×1080) 49Whr battery Windows 10 OS version: 1809 Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx reference laptop. Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx (same as the rumored "Snapdragon 1000"?) 8GB RAM 256GB NVMe storage FHD resolution display (1920×1080) 49Whr battery Windows 10 OS version: 1903 Some in-house footage of the benchmarking: Okay, so it's theoretically as good as an 8th Gen Core i5 but do apps actually run well on it? Well here we have some browsing, Office Suite, and light gaming/Photoshop (PUBG on the Snapdragon 850): Reviewers mention that Snapdragon laptops sells it in I/O, battery life and solid on-the-go productivity, but here's the caveat: most Windows games will be unplayable unless the 8CX's Adreno 680 GPU proves to double the performance of the Snapdragon 850 and app-support will be limited to "native" Universal Windows Platform (UWP) and "non-native" emulated x86/32-bit apps, which might feel kinda slow until they are optimized as UWP apps or re-compiled for ARM64. Sources, Benchmark analysis, more hands-on footage, and Snapdragon 850 device reviews: Personally, I'm not sure I would buy these until they prove to run enough non-UWP apps and run them at least as smoothly as a Core i3 or Core Y-series processor. What are everyone else's thoughts on this?
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