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hello, im trying to buy a new gpu, i want the MSI 4060 Ti GAMING X SLIM 16G. but i cant find the max power. i know the default limit is like 165, but i want to know the MAX limit in MSI afterburner. does anyone know this? if you do, where did you get it from, idd like a chart or something. so if someone has that, please let me know. byy
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WARNING VBIOS FLASHING CAN BRICK YOUR GPU IF YOU FLASH THE WRONG BIOS A SECOND GPU AS A BACKUP WILL BE NEEDED IN THE EVENT THIS HAPPENS essentially this post is to help those looking to unlock the full potential of there cards that have been wrongfully neutered by fake power limits when clearly these cards have a VRM design that can handles peeks of 400watts AND MORE so far the cards that i have found on forums that can be crossflashed with higher powerlimits FEEL FREE TO ADD TO THIS IN THE COMMENTS WITH YOUR SOURCE PLEASE zotac 3070 twin edge oc(240watts) flashed to a asus bios (270watts) "im still looking for people who have successfully flashed the FTW3 bios to this card but no luck even though it has a 10phase of 50amp parts capable of handling 474watts" https://www.reddit.com/r/ZOTAC/comments/lsb0sj/3070_twin_edge_oc_flashed_to_270w/ evga 3070 xc3 black(270watts) flashed with FTW3(300watts) https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/kxy5yp/rtx_3070_xc3_with_ftw3_bios/ gigabyte 3070 gaming oc (non pro)(270watts) flashed with strix(350watts) card is limited by the power connectors since some models use a 8+6 pin for power (310watts GPUz reported power)cannot find original reddit that shows gpuz https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/jpkwh1/gigabyte_gaming_oc_3070_bios_flashed_to_aorus/ https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/w2qonz/how_to_get_even_more_performance_out_of_a_gpu_for/?sort=old msi 3070 ventus x3(220watts) flashed to auros master(300watts) https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/js4ngj/rtx_3070_flashing_bios_to_rtx_3070_ventus_3x_oc/
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After installing the latest NVIDIA driver using DDU, I got this problem I have tried rolling back the old driver, reinstalling AB, even reinstalling windows but still having this problem but I found a way - Open GPU-Z in advanced tab you will see registry path - Open the Registry Editor and go to that path - Change the value of RMI2cValidatedPortMask to 1c7 - Restart your PC - Then check the GPU-Z again you will see the "Power Limit" area which didn't appear before - Check AB again and you will see the result I don't know what RMI2cValidatedPortMask and 1c7 mean, I have an old GPU which is a GTX 970 with power limit working properly, I simply compared the registry value between the 2 GPU and found it =)) Hope this helps.
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DISCLAIMER: I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGED DEVICVES Though I have been using this for months now without issue. Just be sure to modify your throttlestop PL1/PL2 accordingly. PL1 of 36W (set, actual power is ~75W) and PL2 of 55W (set, actual power is ~100W) is the highest I would go and even then you should adjust turbo window accordingly. The reason I have PL1 set high is it will only stay at that on no dGPU load which will give better performance is stuff like VMs or other heavy CPU tasks, when the GPU is running it will default to '22W' which is now 45W. And theoretically the tablet should throttle itself to prevent damage even if you set crazy high power limits. Also, sometimes the power limit doesn't apply when rebooting with the charger connected so it's advised to disconnect it and reconnect it after a reboot just to be sure the '22W' (which is now 45W) stays in place. (This was fixed in BIOS 315) THIS IS FOR SPECIFICALLY THE 'ZE' (i9) VARIANT ON BIOS 312/315, It can be done on other models/BIOS but it's a more complicated process, here is where that process and all the information I got came from: https://www.reddit.com/r/FlowZ13/comments/vplgfg/tutorial_compeletely_get_rid_of_the_dumb_cpu/ Asus has this weird power throttling thing on the Z13 that causes the CPU to be stuck at 22w under combined load (like while in a game). This causes performance to tank in certain games and be inconsistent in others. How this works: The values you are modifying are the IMON slope and IMON Offset, these values are responsible for keeping track of CPU power draw, by modifying these you can trick the system into thinking it's pulling less power than that it actually is. Requirements: FAT32 Flash drive (or a flash drive you don't mind formatting) GZ301ZE Flow Z13 on BIOS 312 Setting up the Flash drive (If you already have a FAT32 formatted flash drive skip to step 5) (If you have a flash drive that's 32GB of less just right click it in file explorer and select 'format' and choose FAT32 from the File System dropdown, then skip to step 5) 1. Open disk management (WIN + X followed by K opens it BTW) 2. Find the flash drive in the list of disks 3. Right click the volume (blue bar) and select 'Delete Volume...' (THIS WILL WIPE THE DRIVE) You should see the drive as 'Unallocated' now 4. Right click the Unallocated space and select 'New Simple Volume', A wizard will open, press Next. Enter '500' for the volume size & hit next: Choose whatever letter & hit next: For File system select 'FAT32' from the dropdown and leave everything else as default, click next then finish: Now you should see a portion of the drive is a FAT32 partition: 5. Extract the attached zip (EFI-SHELL.zip) to the flash drive, make sure the contents are on the root of the drive, not in a folder called EFI-SHELL: (You might not see System Volume Information, that's fine. I have show system folders on) 6. With the flash drive plugged into the Z13 reboot and press F2 to get to the BIOS, then hit F8 to open the boot menu. select 'UEFI: *whatever the flash drive is*' 7. Once you're at the EFI Shell prompt type RU.EFI & hit enter 8. Once it loads hit any key to dismiss the welcome prompt 9. Hit ALT + '=' to open the list of variable names, scroll down until you see 'CpuSetup' 10. Hit enter on CpuSetup and you should see a screen that looks like this: 11. Hit CTRL + FN + Down Arrow to go down a page (the numbers on the side should change from 0000-00F0 to 0100-01F0) 12. Now it's time to enter the values from this table: I attached the spreadsheet I made that generates these values based off the desired TDP. 45W seems to be the highest you can go without having thermal throtting issues under sustained load (though the battery will drain while on the charger). You can open the sheet for yourself and change the Desired TDP & use those values, the process is the same. (The spreadsheet also contains some other testing stuff as well that's not used) Use the arrow keys to move the cursor to each of the Bytes in that table (they are displayed without the '0x' in the top left highlighted in grey) Once you're at a value you need to change simply type in it's corresponding Value and hit enter Repeat this process until all the numbers in the table match the ones you've entered: 13. Once that is done press CTRL + W to write changes, dismiss the 'Updated OK' popup and hit CTRL + ALT + DEL to reboot. That's it. You're done. Power reporting will be incorrect because of how this works though, so remember that. Temperatures/Clock speeds will still report correctly and will be the best way of seeing if it worked.
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Hi, my graphics card did work fine, i did not actively change anything. However i started a game today and got 10-20fps, where as normally i get around 200. Confused i started to investigate, where i noticed that in msi Afterburner the powerlimit and templimit is somehow locked to 0. I can not change that. When i set it higher and press apply it just resets. It also doesnt show anything at core voltage anymore. It did work normally around 2 months ago, since then i havent opened afterburner again. I have reinstalled Afterburner and also installed graphic card drivers new (deleting old ones). That did not change anything. Note: i am using a custom waterblock, the cooling is working fine. (MSI RTX3070 Gaming X Trio) Hope you have any idea what i am doing wrong. Thank you
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I used MSI afterburner and set the power limit to 70% with an overclock of +200 core clock and +700 memory clock. I would like to know from those running overclocks long term if I should be worried using these settings, since I just wanted to drop the temps. Razer blade 14 2021 Ryzen 5900HX, RTX3070, 16Gb RAM R6 1080p ultra. 100% 207FPS 70% 196FPS 70% 213FPS +CC 200MHz +MOC 700MHz Phantom brigade 1080p all high (fun game kinda like XCOM but IMO better) 100% 58FPS 70% 45FPS 70% 50FPS +CC 200MHz +MOC 700MHz -
Hi folks, i got a new Gigabyte RTX 4080 Gaming, put it into my PC and tried starting it. So far so good, PC turned on. When i ran 3DMark TimeSpy i noticed, i only got like 12 FPS and startet to wonder. After a ton of looking around, i found, that the Power Limit is set to 0% in MSI Afterburner and to -100% in the Gigabyte Extreme Engine. Naturally, i thought, that must be the problem, as the GPU didnt seem to go beyond 855 MHz core clock. When i tried to set the Power Limit to 100% and hit apply, it instandly snapped back to 0%, both in Afterburner and Extreme Engine. I am clueless on what to do now. Specs: Ryzen 5800X3D MSI Gaming Edge Wifi X570 Mushin 3600 32GB DDR4 RTX4080 GIgabyte Gaming Corsair RM750 Watt PSU
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i have a evga supernova 850 80 plus platinum power supply 9900k a zotac rtx 2080 ti and my motherboard is a asus rog strix z390-e. when im doing gpu or gpu and cpu bench marks i see that in hwmonitor it is saying that im hitting operational voltage limit, reliable voltage limit and power limit gpu pulls almost 300w cpu pulls 218w in occt power test gpu hits coltage limit and power limit when core voltage and power limit is set all the way up and the cpu is not over clocked
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Hi all. Im trying to get a similar result for my gpu to the one on this video: But if i follow the instructions step by step I only get to around 1800 Mhz. I also unlocked the voltage monitoring to see whats going on and the voltage never goes above 1 v (I unfortunately cant compare what voltage the youtube video has since its turned off). How can I make the voltage go higher? I have a Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti D5 4Gb instead of the windforce version but even if the video says not to overclock if you dont have a 6 pin connector, you can see in the comments it doesnt really matter since the software limits the power to 75w. Another difference is that my slider in afterburner has a max of 104% instead of the 125% of the video. So maybe thats what limits the voltage; but im getting 68 w and 1 v when the voltage limit and power limit indicators turn on, so im unsure if thats the case. Im considering flashing the gpu to allow for the 125% power limit slider(i would put it at 110% to get 75w) but I wanted to see if there is a way to increase the voltage above 1 v before having to resort to that. Update/edit: Just wanna say I got it running at 1911 Hz! First thing that I did was increase the rpms on my case fans. The stock speed was set like at 60% constant. I made a speed-temp curve in my mobo bios and got my card to run 10°C cooler Then I modified my GPUs volt-freq curve to max out at 0.965 v and 1911 MHz. Having the lower voltage helped me prevent the power limit from being reached (Its still capped at 68w but I guess thats just how my card is) Thanks to everyone for their help
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I've just bought an Acer Nitro 7 with a 9750h and a 1660Ti and I'm really pleased with it. The thing is I ran userbenchmark and noticed that although the CPU scores remarkably well (96-99th percentile), it doesn't go over 800 points in the all core (64-core) test. I've already dusted it off and undervolted the cpu and it still constantly power throttles at max load. Other people were getting scores as high as 950-1000 pts on all core (on other laptops) and my question is can I do anything to improve the multicore capacity of my cpu? Does changing the thermal paste (temps are ok, the cpu isn't thermal throttling) lower power consumption and allow for better performance? (in TSBench, it only boosts to 3.7 all core, in games it goes to 3.95 tho) Can you actually increase the power limit somehow (neither throttlestop or XTU seemed to work, max power was still 56W) or would I need a custom unlocked bios? Any nitro 7 bros have any experience? Acer Nitro AN715-51 Performance Results - UserBenchmark
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Hello I would like to ask if is it good to use temp/power limit to my GTX 1660 Super, while playing Genshin Impact? Thanks
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Hello everyone, I have a Gigabyte GTX 1050Ti that I am overclocking a bit. I already found my sweet spot but the power limit indicator on MSI afterburner occationally toggles on and the clock speed drops a tiny bit. The thing is that power limit is toggling on at 69W, but looking at my GPU vbios I find that it has a target power limit of 72W and a max power limit of 75W. https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/195549/gigabyte-gtx1050ti-4096-170623-1 I don´t know a whole lot about motherboards, but could the BIOS of my mobo be limiting the powerdraw of the PCIe x16 slot to 69W? I found online that PCIe x16 slots have a power limit of 75W My motherboard is a MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
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I was wondering if i could Flash a new bios to my 2070 Super Fe Card to increase power limit. I was also wondering if anyone know what card had the highest power limit of the any of the Reference cards is???? I do have a water block on the card so temp isn't an issue. Yes it shows a 2080 in the pic, but it is a 2070 super under the block.
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Hi Linus, I've been your faithful viewer since I know your channel few month ago. Your review helps me understand more about PC system . I've been trying to ask about the performance of underclocked and overclocked GPU. For example MSI 3060 ti Gaming x trio and Zotac 3070 twim fans. With MSI gaming trio i can overclock 3060 ti to perform closer to 3070 performance with higher power draw, but msi is known for its silent fan. But I think I can limit power of 3070 so, it can perform closer to 3060 ti with less power draw and with cooler gpu, and zotac known for its loud fan. I am planning to play AAA games 1080p with maxed settings(with ray tracing of course). Currently I'm Using intel core i5 10400 with MSI B460m motherboard, 16gb of ram with, with thermaltake 650w psu, 75hz 1080p monitor. I am planning to upgrade CPU and add more monitor in the future. With this setup, which one should i buy between 3060 ti gaming x trio and 3070 twin fan(planning to apply power limit or it will bottleneck the cpu on some games), because they are basicly nearly costs the same in my country. Thanks for the response
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I have a 2070 super fe card and when I overclock i keep hitting a power limit and so I was wondering if I could flash like a strix bios to up the power limit. It is under a water block so temperatures shouldn't be an issue. I just want to know if this can be done.
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Hello, I bought the MSI RX 6600 MECH 2X 8G today and I'm wondering if I made the wrong choice after founding out about the 100W power limit. Is that a big deal for the performance of the card? Thanks in advance for any answers!
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Hello, I bought the MSI RX 6600 MECH 2X 8G today and I'm wondering if I made the wrong choice after founding out about the 100W power limit. Is that a big deal for the performance of the card? Thanks in advance for any answers!
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Hi everybody! I've got a problem that I haven't been able to solve on my upgraded PC build. I upgraded from an Optiplex 9010 (i7-3770 [NON-K], Dell-special Motherboard, 2x8GB + 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz, Zotac GTX 1070 Blower card, 500w EVGA PSU, 500GB SATA3 SSD + 6TB HDD storage) to my new custom build (Define R5, R7 3700x, Noctua U-12S, MSI B450 Tomahawk Max, 2x16GB DDR4 3600MHz, same Zotac GTX 1070 Blower card, same 500w EVGA PSU, same 500GB SATA3 SSD + 6TB HDD storage), and am loving it thus far. My only issue with it is that the power limit I'm setting in the BIOS of 115W doesn't seem to be doing anything, the CPU stays capped at 88W and Ryzen Master says that is indeed the wattage cap on the chip. I can get it to go up much higher, but only by using PBO, which I don't want enabled because I'm trying to use the 1usmus CTR utility to do smart per-CCX overclocking with my 115W of cooling capability (while remaining under 85C). Does anyone have any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong/configuring wrong in the BIOS? I'm attaching screenshots of my BIOS configuration, as well as Ryzen Master.
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Hi, I know the model isn't the newest, but my xps 9500's GPU only maintains at 40W for about 3 mins and then throttles to 20W and frequency drops to something like 1400MHz instead of 1900MHz. The utilization also becomes 100% after throttling. It seems that Dell set a GPU long-term power limit of 20W on my xps 9500 (which has a 10750H and 1650Ti). Is there any way that I can bypass this power limit? It really kills the FPS from 60FPS with 50% utilization to 30FPS with 100% utilization. Btw, the temperature before throttle was 75C and after that it was around 65C, which I consider to be not high enough to cause the temperature throttle. Before Throttling: After Throttling: It seems like this problem is from DELL.
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My pny 1080ti performs horrible (PNY GTX 1080 Ti Blower Gaming OC). Somewhere i have a folder of results from other benchmarks when i started looking into this, but since i have no idea where that folder is i can run other benchmarks if needed (windows 10 and ubuntu currently installed). Mining daggerhashimoto it gets ~8.5 mh (my 2 evga ftw3 1080ti each get ~32mh). About a year ago i pulled this card out of my server to troubleshoot but behavior is same on other computers are it was in server (got it for video transcoding mainly...but that is part of a whole different story). Attached are 2 superposition runs (performance went down after geforce driver update). For sanity check i took one of the evga cards and put it on this pc and score was ~16,000 (forgot to screenshot it). Next logical step would be to update the bios/firmware, but i haven't had good luck finding verified versions for this card. According to nvidias tool, it is on the latest version so reinstalling that version should be the step to take but that is not an option their tool gave me. I know i should have sold the card back when everything was crazy high...it was on my todo list but just never happened. Considering how much dead for parts cards were going for, one that works but not as well as it should would have been a decent payday (and gone into buying more exos drives). I dont think it is a thermal issue, but i can go back and run a long furmark again if someone wants to know what it maxes out at. That being said, i have not replaced the thermal paste, but since it hasn't seemed to be overheating that didnt seems like a useful step.
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Hi, Despite the high price, I have decided to upgrade to 4080 founders edition (from gtx 970), will be running it on ultrawide 1440p, a bit of an overkill but honestly can't reason a better option for the long run. coming to the topic, this card is efficient but still I want to lower power limit to 80 to 90% and not lower, (just using power limit slider with afterburner and not messing with voltage) So far I have seen it wouldn't harm anything but If you guys know any reason not to do it, that will be appreciated, concerned about power as I'm in Europe with a power crisis and even if there is small reason not to limit i'll just leave it as it is and move on. Thanks for reading.
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On a Z390 Aorus Ultra and a 9700k. At stock it will draw around 110w in cinebench and won't ever go down to the 95w TDP that its rated for. I noticed my PL1 and PL2 limits are at 4090w and not 95w. Im on optimized defaults from the motherboard bios.
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I got an 8 cores 16 threads coffee lake CPU in hand base 2.1 GHz boost 39-4.4 GHz. Obviously looks to be a mobile sample. The power budget is 45W. The main purpose is to get most out of this sample without exceeding the power limit (since it is a mobile CPU). I increased the vcore to 1.4v and pushed boosting to 4.6-5.1. that resulted in less multi core performance and more single threaded performance (Cr15 multi 1300>>1207, single 192>>216) now I am sure the CPU is going to perform better in single threaded applications aka: gaming, adobe photoshop... etc. The next step is tweaking the uncore ratio and here I got lost a bit and need help. If I increase the uncore ratio that would increase the power usage and because I am limited to 45W... I may get less performance in some cases? in single threaded applications OR...... the CPU would switch the core and uncore ratio automatically when power limited to achieve the maximum performance at the given power limit? I wanna know about coffee lake behaviour so I can guess better. Running benchmarks on different applications is gonna be very time consuming in my case as I am not prepared for that so a simple answer would save my time and be appreciated
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I have an RTX 2070 Super Founders Edition that has been pretty quiet up until recently when i overclocked it. I raised the power limit to 120% and overclocked everything just fine but then a few hours later the card started making this weird buzzing sound that I have never heard before. I reverted my overclock but left the power limit at 120% and the buzz persisted. So i tried lowering the power limit and what do you know, the buzz decreases the lower the power limit is. Before i overclocked the card, there was no buzzing sound whatsoever and now it wont go away no matter what. The buzzing sounds like its coming from the front of the card right before where the "RTX 2070 Super" starts on the backplate. Any ideas whats going on?
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