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I have updated the NVME SSD: swapped a HP EX900 500GB (no DRAM) to a Samsung PM981a 512GB (with DRAM). I have benchmarked the Samsung SSD on a Lenovo laptop and got speeds around +3000MB/s. On the Dell I get 1700MB/s and Crystal Disk Info shows "Negotiated transfer rate - PCIe 3.0 x2". The laptop is capable of PCIe 3.0 x4 as stated also "Highest Possible Transfer Rate - PCIe 3.0 x4". Troubleshooting: - Changed in BIOS from RAID to AHCI; - Clean reinstall Windows 11 in both RAID and AHCI separately; - Re-seated the SSD multiple times; - BIOS is using the latest firmware; - All drivers are up to date (checked with Dell Command Update, Dell Support Assist and on the website); How can I make the SSD run at this full speed on this laptop? Has anyone encountered this before?

I'm looking to buy the MSI MPG 650 CARBON WI-FI for a future build to pair with the 7800X3D, but the PCI_E1, M2_2 & M2_3 share the bandwidth.. PCI_E1 will run at x8 speed when installing devices in M2_2 or M2_3 slots......Which I may in future if I need to add extra M.2 SSD. Will there be a substantial loss on the GPU performance from X16 speed to x8.

Hi, I've just purchased a new MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI It has a PCIE 4.0 and a 3.0 x16 Slot. It also has 2 NVME Slots 4.0 and 3.0. I currently have 2 x 4.0 4TB NVME drives in my NVME 4.0 and 3.0 slots. And my GTX 1080 TI in my 4.0 x16 Slot. I was wondering whether it would be better to move my GPU to the 3.0 16x slot as its a 3.0 GPU. And put the 4.0 NVME in a PCIE adapter and put that in the 4.0 x16 slot. Is my logic sound on this or am I missing something, Thanks

I was just curios how would a top tier gpu perform in gaming/workload on a pci 4x4 (which should be equal to gen2x16) compare to a full gen3x16 or gen4x16. only benchmark i found where from 4090 on gen3 or 3070 on gen2/3. any links would be great i am just curious after watching a few yt vids. how much actual fps would someone lose by going so low

Hey friends, have a little issue with my second little build. My Gigabyte Radeon 5600XT Gaming OC 6G doesn't seem to want to run at PCIE 4.0. I know ultimately it probably won't make a difference, but at this point it's principle, damnit! Had issues associated with being rev 1.0, however I have flashed to F61 and this resolved all that, being black screen on cold boot, no resizeable bar, and running at 12Gbps. While these are resolved, both BIOS and gpu-Z show it as "PCIE 4.0 x16 running at PCIE 3.0 x16. No amount of BIOS fiddling (also flashed to latest release) etc fixes it. Any thoughts? - Specs below CPU - Ryzen 3 3300x Mobo - Gigabyte Aorus X570i Pro wifi RAM - Kingston Fury 2x8gb 3200mhz SSD - Kingston NV1 512gb GPU - Gigabyte RX 5600XT Gaming OC 6gb

Mostly what the tittles says, do you know of any MB with PCIe 4 that support an intel core i7-8700k or should i update my cpu if i want that?

I'm planning on getting a 6900XT or 6800XT, and I'm planning on reusing my GTX 1060 6GB for hardware passthrough with VMs. How will bifurcation work? Will the 2 PCIe slots end up running on 3.0, or will it be possible to run 4.0 at the top and 3.0 at the bottom (or flip)? I currently have an Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master.

Wasn't sure whether to put this under Motherboards, Storage, or Troubleshooting. TL;DR Is anyone successfully using a PCIe 4.0 SSD in the chipset M.2 slot on an Asrock B550 board? If so, what drive are you using? My story I have a B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax that I was happily using with 2x PCIe 3.0 SSDs (2x Toshiba XG6 1TB). I'm using a Sliger SM580 case with a 280mm AIO cooler, so taking the system apart to access the rear M.2 slot (attached to the chipset) is a bit of an ordeal. At the time I was using a Ryzen 3700X, though based on what's going on the CPU shouldn't matter. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly what BIOS revision I was on. I probably started with either 1.80 or 2.00, and based on the timing 2.10 was probably available, and I definitely would have tried flashing the latest BIOS as a troubleshooting step. When the ADATA S50 Lite (a PCIe 4.0 drive) came out last year, I jumped on it and got a 2TB model. I didn't get it for the speed -- it barely exceeds what PCIe 3.0 is capable of -- it just seemed like a decent, inexpensive 2TB drive. I wanted to throw it in the REAR M.2 slot (attached to the Chipset and running at PCIe 3.0) so that I'd be replacing the harder to access slot and I'd still be able to upgrade the front SSD slot at a later date with another large M.2 drive when I could afford it, when prices came down, when better drives came out, etc. Unfortunately, after tearing apart the system and installing the S50 Lite in the rear M.2 slot, putting it all back together, and booting my system back up, the drive didn't show up in Windows. It didn't show up in Disk Management, in the CLI tool diskpart, or enumerated as a PCIe device in tools like HWINFO. I checked in BIOS(UEFI) and the drive was not showing up there either. I'd already tested the drive in an external M.2 USB enclosure, so I knew the drive worked. The enclosure only supported PCIe 3.0, so I knew that, at least in some instances, the drive didn't have issues with backwards compatibility (yes, I'm aware a 4.0 drive SHOULD work in a 3.0 slot, but as I'm about to demonstrate, that doesn't always seem to be the case). I ended up tearing down my system again and swapped the S50 Lite into the Front M.2 slot (PCIe 4.0 attached directly to the CPU's PCIe lanes) and the XG6 into the rear slot. With this arrangement, both drives are detected and worked. For the last year or so this has served me fine, but now I'm ready to upgrade my 1TB XG6 to either a 2TB or 4TB drive. I don't really need more than PCIe 3.0 speeds for anything, so I don't have a problem slotting the new drive into a 3.0 slot (since I've already established that the S50 Lite can't go in the 3.0 slot), but the market seems to be shifting towards 4.0 drives, even in the budget range. I'm worried that if I buy another PCIe 4.0 drive I won't be able to use it in the rear slot. Does anyone have experience with using PCIe 4.0 drives on the chipset M.2 slot of an Asrock B550 motherboard? Have you had instances of it NOT working like I did? Have you gotten a drive to work? Thanks!

I have a strange issue where the WD Black SN850 I just got will not be recognized by my PC BIOS after powering the computer on and off. If I look in the BIOS of my MSI motherboard M.2_1 says there is nothing connected but M.2_2 does say my other drive, the SN750 is recognized. The only way to have the 850 be recognized again is to shut off the PC, reset CMOS and then turn it back on but the second it turns back off, it will be forgotten when it's powered on again. Because of this, I was unable to load Windows into the 850 as planned (it's also the M.2 slot closest to the CPU) so I went with the secondary slot but everything boots well and boots fast. I'm just worried if there is any issue with the BIOS not recognizing my SN850? Windows 10 does recognize it, so that's good. I just want to make sure there won't be any future conflict if it's not read in the BIOS. The previous SSD was recognized it was a Samsung 970 Evo Other relevant hardware: Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi CPU: Ryzen 5 3600x I thought maybe my CPU would be the issue but on the motherboard manual it states that if I'm running a Zen 2 CPU, any Gen 4 SSD inserted into its gen 4 slot (where it's currently inserted) will just boot as gen 3. Doesn't say anything about incompatibility or not appearing. Unless the CPU incompatibility with gen4 speeds just makes it so it doesn't appear?

Hi Everyone, Currently, I have a 5600x on a Gigabyte X570 Elite Wifi ( which i dont use the wifi module because I have a Wifi 6 router and I bought an aditional Wifi 6 PCIe Card ) I have on the x16 an RTX 3070, on the x4 slot a Wifi 6 Card (the module itself is x1), and on the other 2 x1 slots I have 2 more GPUS for mining using PCIe Risers ( 2070 and 1660 super ). Also, I have an NVME drive attached to the PCIe x4 NVME m2 slot on the motherboard. Everything works fine, all devices are detected and can be used, until I hit the PCIe Wifi card with a huge load ( lets say a speed test ). At that moment, the internet drops drastically, even losing all connection, and the mining cards also lowers their usage. Here is a link to the motherboard specs: X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI (rev. 1.x) Specification | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global Can someone help me understand what is going on? Do I have too many things attached? I'm lacking PCIe lanes? PD: I tried configuring the Bios to use PCIe Bifurcation to have 2 PCIe x8 ( as Slot 1 and 2 ), but it didn't help.

Someone mentioned to me that putting a PCIE 4.0 & 3.0 GPUs won't fare well, especially for the 4.0 GPU. Does the same apply for SSDs? Do I have to put the NVME in 3.0 mode to do that?

I have an msi b450 pro carbon wifi. my cpu is a ryzen 5 2400g and my 3060 is arriving tomorrow. Do I need to upgrade my mobo bios to a 4.0 version? I have no clue how to use a bios. Key word is need. thanks

Hey! So I got an 11600k with a MSI Z490 Gaming EDGE WIFI and an AMD RX 5500XT 8GB. I wanted to OC the CPU and RAM. Soo I was tasting the BCLK after I was done with the ratio settings. I was able to reach 103.6 BCLK without any failure for months. So, as I was testing the BCLK, thinking that i could go even higher, I accidentally pressed 130 instead of 103 and the screen started flickering. I immediatelly shut down the PC and resetted the bios. Once I turned it back on the PCI-E slot wasnt working. Even though there is POST once it boots Windows it stops working. The second slot works fine but at 3.0 speed. Is there anything I can do to fix the PCI-E 4.0 slot?

Hello, I am looking at both the x570 and b550 chipsets. I understand a cpu like a 5800x has 24 pcie 4.0 lanes, with 4 for connecting to the chipset, 4 for NVMe, and 16 for a gpu. Does the B550 chipset on its own have any pcie 4.0 lanes? if so, how many; and compared to x570.

Hello! So around a year ago, I've bought a new awesome gaming rig with a 3600X and a B450 board. I haven't expected it to come that fast, but I've managed to put my hands on a new fast and cool PCIe 4 M.2 drive, and now I obviously need to get a new motherboard to support it. My question is, B550 vs X570! since these two chipsets exist for some time now, I wonder what will be the better option. First of all, ill probably use the board on stock settings (ill probably set up a fan curve and enable PBO, but unlikely ill OC the CPU. I've found an X570 board (Aorus Elite Wifi) and a B550 board (Aorus B550 Elite), and the prices of both boards and pretty much the same (both around 200$ each, new in box, just not from an official store). So what board should I go with considering the fact they are both new in the box? If that matter, my next upgrade to the rig will probably be a new Ryzen 7 CPU (either 3000 or 5000, depends on the price), and I might upgrade to 32GB RAM as well, adding 2 sticks to my current 8x2 3200Mhz setup or buying 2x16 kit 3600Mhz if I end up buying a 5th gen CPU. Thanks to everyone who will be able to help me make a good choice!

WD apparently just started pre-orders on a branded version of the SN750 for Battefield 2032. They're calling it an "SN750 SE", which I assumed just meant "special edition" for the Battefield branding, but apparently, they're also selling just a straight SN750 SE without any marketing tie in on their site, as well. They advertise it as a PCIe 4.0 drive, which I first assumed was a mistake in the product listing, but not so much: Of course, 3600MB/s is nowhere near what is considered Gen4 speeds for an NVMe drive, though. Even the early ones to market that hadn't maxed it out yet easily hit 5000MB/s and the drives that go all out hit 7000MB/s. 3600MB/s, though, is technically faster than PCIe 3.0 can achieve. What seems to be happening here is that they added a Gen4 interface to the SN750 and then juiced it a bit so it would get 100-200MB/s more speed, just so they could market it as a Gen4 drive. That seems shady AF to me. It's also a very disturbing trend it other manufactures jump on board and start doing the same. Consumers are being trained as we speak to know that Gen4 is the "fast storage", and might buy something like this not realize that it's really not even remotely taking advantage of what Gen4 should really be. Worse, when and if Sony opens up the extra NVMe slot in the PS5, how many people might buy something like this because it's supposedly PCIe 4.0, but likely won't be fast enough to actually be used by the PS5. What's everyone else's thoughts? Am I making hay out of nothing here, or is this something that actually should be concerning?

Hey Guys... I Was Wondering If We Can Pair The Liqid HoneyBadger (Liqid Element LQD4500 PCIe AIC Composable Storage SSD) With A Ryzen 9 5950X ? If Yes Then How Or If No Then Why... Also Some Better (Probably Cheaper) Alternative Suggestions Are Welcome...

If you have an X570/B550 board and a new PCIe 4.0 GPU like 3080 or 3090 you can come to some serious usb stuttering and even stability issues. As I didn't see that topic on the forum till now I wanted to open this up for discussion Anyone else on here with this problem? r/amd has a good amount of people encountering the same problem and trying. to fix it. For me the current solution is to set my GPU to pcie3 manually. I have tried contacting Asus about that but their support in my country is garbage so I am a bit dependend on this topic getting bigger. Reddit posts regarding the issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/kevhze/caution_advised_when_buying_5000_seriesb550x570/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/k8mtes/pcie_gen_4_causes_usb_problems_on_b550x570/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/kbr6zl/usb_issues_on_b550x570_motherboards/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/k3jhxz/ahocbuildzoid_potential_fix_for_usb_20/

Should i get a Msi mag x570 tomahawk or a b550 around the same price point. Ive been really stressed out about picking a pcie 4 or a pcie 3 gpu slot

My motherboard only supports PCIe 3.0. Because PCIe 4.0 is backwards compatible with PCIe 3.0 (at least this particular drive I'm looking at) my plan is to buy a PCIe 4.0 M.2 drive for future proofing as an incremental upgrade. When I eventually upgrade my motherboard (and other components) a couple of years down the line, I already have an M.2 drive that supports PCIe 4.0 speeds. I have an Asus Z170-A that supports NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 Socket 3, with M Key, type 2280 (up to 32Gbit/s). Here are some other relevant components: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hjm7Cz For example a Samsung 1TB 980 PRO (MZ-V8P1T0BW) M.2 2280, PCIe Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.3c looks nice. The motherboard manual says "The M.2 socket shares SATA ports with SATA Express. Only one SATA device could be activated." which presumably means that I need to move my current SSD away from the SATA Express port into a regular SATA port to give all of the bandwidth to the new M.2 drive (which I of course plan on using as my OS drive)? Additionally: What are some potential pitfalls of using a gen 4 M.2 on a gen 3 motherboard? Can I still expect regular gen 3 speeds in the 3500/3300 MB/s range with a gen 4 drive? I'm not entirely sure how this PCIe lane splitting thing works but that is something to keep in mind? I don't have anything else in my PCIe slots apart from the GPU so this should not be an issue?

I have a B550 mobo with PCIe 4 x16 slot and recently purchased a RTX 3070. Once I get it I need to change gpu in my system from RX580. The riser cable i'm using currently in my itx case is a PCIe 3. I know I need to get a PCIe4 riser cable. But will the PCIe 3 riser cable work until I get the new one?

I ordered my 3080, I have a 3700x with a Strix X570-E, in my O11 I have my 2070 Super vertical mounted. I am fairly certain that the pcie 4.0 won’t work on the riser cable. has anyone ran a benchmark from the 3080 on a pcie3 vs 4 on the Strix variant? I have read a few spots that the manual toggle of it doesn’t make a whole bunch of difference yet. 1440p Ultrawide 165 hz,

I have built a new PC few days back and on checking the PCIe connection speeds it says 3.0x16 instead of 4.0x16. I have tried looking at the settings in BIOS and forced the PCIe slot to 4.0 instead of Auto, but that didn't help. In addition, I have already cleaned the contacts and re-seated the GPU firmly to ensure a sturdy connection. All the drivers and Windows itself is up to date. Additionally, Windows Power Plan is on high performance mode. I have attached a screenshot of my system config as well. I am using a SSUPD Meshlicious cabinet with 4.0 riser cable.

Because I may need to use my second x8 PCIe slot, I did some testing with Time Spy for my RX 6800. However I noticed no appreciable difference in score. I did this testing using the bifurcation setting in my bios and verified the lanes with HwInfo. I expected at least a loss of 10% performance or something, but I only recorded a loss of less than 0.5%. Is this to be expected, or did I make some naïve mistake in testing? My scores were: @x16: 16,596 16,640 16,645 @x8: 16,589 16,584 16,569 My system for those curious is: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Gigabyte Radeon RX 6800 GAMING OC 16G G.skill Trident Z Neo 4x16GB DDR4-3600 CL14 Gigabyte X570S AORUS MASTER

Hello everyone! Before we begin read this next bit carefully or I'm gonna get kinda angry. I built my PC new and it was $3,300... I saved up for 2 years to make it happen. I'M NOT MADE OF MONEY. I don't plan to spend another $500+ on the PC I already have (after my already planned CPU upgrade), but I do recognize that for my use case I should invest a bit so that I can PROPERLY sit on the end product for the amount of time I had originally planned. Suggesting the newest and greatest, or telling me that my plan isn't sensible, or telling me to completely rebuild my system is TO IGNORE MY USE CASE. DON'T GO THAT ROUTE. I built my first PC about a year and a half ago, planned to sit on the components for a while. It was a multi-use PC; of which, the use cases were to be: Gaming, Youtube, College, Netflix, and work in that order. I really don't do any work on it but I'm not using it for purely gaming either. I run the system on 1440p settings for video and gaming. MY DILEMMA: When I built the PC brand new, it was just before the fresh 30 series launch and the PCIE Gen4 launch, and as such I ended up adopting an end-of-road/end-of-upgrade-path PCIE gen3 system. I mentioned above, I planned to build-and-sit-on the components in my PC for about 5-7 years if I could get away with it while upgrading just the GPU as games became more demanding, which I can't do currently considering I'm at the END OF PCIE Gen3 with current PCIE Gen4 cards. With what I have in it, and considering I don't actually need a PC for work, I figured I could sit on the components for about 7 years for 1440p video quality for watching movies and youtube. But for gaming I planned to update perhaps just the GPU from time to time, and I mean long after the card for my use case has come significantly down in price from when it was first launched. So if you recommend a current series card, I expect you mean for when the price comes down long in the future, by about a third to half, as I'm willing to sit on my current GPU for as long as is needed to get the best card for my use case without spending a decent amount to do so. Here is my current build... https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D2Dj4s I really want to be on the PCIE Gen4 bandwagon as it means future releases of GPU's will be utilized full within my system. Currently I'm on PCIE Gen3... luckily, if I upgrade my CPU to the Intel i7 -11700k, with a proper BIOS upgrade I can fully utilize the Motherboard's baked in (but otherwise locked out) PCIE Gen4 capability. SO MY PLAN: --KEEP EVERYTHING IN THE COMPUTER THE SAME, BUT UPGRADE CPU TO i7-11700K, CHANGE THE GPU. --DEPENDING ON WHICH GPU IS SUGGESTED TO ME BY YOU GUYS, I MAY HAVE TO UPGRADE MY PSU. --STAY ON THE 1440P GAMING RESOLUTION. I DON'T CARE FOR 4K, I REALLY DON'T. To change monitors at this point is costly and I REALLY DON'T CARE about 4k. DISCLAIMER: I'm WELL AWARE a new line of CPU's are coming out for INTEL, and AMD, and that new GPU's are due. I CARE FOR NONE OF THEM. My motherboard has real limitations and I'm not made of money so all I can afford (and am lucky to be able to do via the motherboard), is upgrade my CPU to the Intel 11th gen. This allows me PCIE Gen 4, which means I can just upgrade my GPU for another 4-5 years (hopefully) and thus don't have to completely rebuild my system in 3 years. SO WHAT I'M ASKING: --What 1440P GPU do you recommend given my monitor's limitations? I REALLY VALUE RAY-TRACING, though I'm unfamiliar with AMD vs NVIDIA I would like suggestions for both. DISCLAIMER: I recognize that my current GPU is one in which I can overlock... but honestly, I'd be fine with a new GPU that isn't overclockable, because my monitor specs won't change. I recognize tat I'm quickly reaching the point where my monitor's frame rate cap might bottleneck any GPU (recent) that you might suggest. I plan to sit on the GPU you suggest for me, as such I expect it to take a beating over the next few years. SO I EXPECT THAT AS THE CARD YOU SUGGEST AGES AND GAMES BECOME MORE DEMANDING MY GPU ON HIGHER RAY TRACE SETTINGS IN NEWER TITLES WILL NATURALLY FALL BACK WIHTIN THE MAX FRAME RATE OF MY MONITOR WHERE MY MONITOR NO LONGER LIMITS MY FPS. I care about Ray tracing, not just MAX FPS, and so I figure that the frame rate cap of my monitor SHOULD matter less. I"M NOT JUST LOOKING FOR HIGH FPS GPU, I'm looking for a decent one that at least can keep up with new games 3 years from now even with compromises around that time. KEEP IN MIND, I'M NOT ASKING FOR SUGGESTIONS ON MORE SENSIBLE CPUs... JUST GPUs. I'm not made of money, I'm just looking to upgrade my GPU within a 1440p, PCIEgen4 landscape. I don't need the highest FPS, but it should be better in performance than my current 2080 Super (MSI GAMING X TRIO) GPU with a focus on increased ray tracing capability. I would be happy to buy the previous generation 30 series if it makes more sense.