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Hi, i see many mobos have two PCI-E x16 slots, where primary PCI-E x16 is for my gpu, but 2nd one only supports upto X4 or something. I'll never use more than 1 gpu on my mobo. then whats the use of a 2nd PCI-E x16?
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Hello fellow tech people! First time writing but long time viewer of the channel and the forums. I'm helping a friend with his RTX 3080. He bought it second hand from some guy who bought them in bulk. It later broke and was sent in to be repaired by a third party shop multiple times but works fine since then. His little brothers mobo found the card no problems and it worked fine when he used it, but my mates old mobo did not even found a it as a PCI-device. Thought it was that the old motherboard was PCI Gen 3 and his little brothers was Gen 4 (the thinking was like the shop only fixed it to work with Gen 4). I tried it in one of my Gen 4 computers with AMD-chipset (his brother use Intel so we had tried both) and it works like a charm in it. Benchmarked it in some games as well with no problems. Updated the drivers as well the the latest. My mate caved in and bought a new mobo, CPU, RAM, PSU and finally a non-spinning storage device haha. I built it all for him and tried the card on the mobo-box but with the same results as in his old mobo. The fan spins slowly but not in the locked minimum 35% it should. The power is correct as no lights light up by the power connectors (if I pull one of them out and turn the PSU on it lights up so I know they work) I am now out of ideas to troubleshoot, integrated graphics works fine, but the 3080 really doesn't wanna work in this system. Do somebody have any ideas to test? Specs: CPU: i5 13600K Mobo: NZXT N5 Z690 DDR4 GPU: Asus RTX 3080 Founders RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 (2X16GB) 3200MHz PSU: CoolerMaster MWE 850 V2 CPU-Cooler: DeepCool AK620
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Hello. I recently bought a pre-owned for cheap, which had "non working fans". Actually, they work but are probably filled with dust so they take longer to start spinning. The issue I'm having is the following: the card runs at PCI-E x4, nothing beyond that. I manually set the motherboard to Gen2, Gen3, Auto etc. Nothing made difference. I removed and installed it again twice, and cleaned the PCI-E contacts which weren't actually dirty with isopropylic alcohol. Researching about this issue, apparently it happens when the card has physical damage (ex.: a missing capacitor), which does not seem to be the case. Interestingly, the graphics card also has plastic clamps under the fan, attached to the heatsink. I thought it was opened before, but I compared it to the photos available at TechPowerUp, and it matches up. Photos of the card here. Screenshots of GPU-Z here. Please let me know if anything else can be done, or if the card is faulty.
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Hi, I currently have in my system RTX 2080 super and was thinking about adding some Intel Arc GPU to run everything else while Im gaming. The question is whether I can run both of my GPUs in PCI-e 3.0 16x when the manual says that it supports dual GPU with PCI-e 4.0 both in 8x, because as far as Im concerned PCI-e 4 speeds are technically doubled compared to PCI-e 3.0 (Yes I know that the Intel Arc GPU can run PCI-e 4.0 and it would be far better for it). The system has AMD 3700X inside and technically could house a 5000 series processor in the future. Of course the issue with the lagging of the Youtube content could be somewhere else and I welcome any other tips for "resolving" this Edit: I mentioned that the browers is sluggish with video content while gaming, from my observations I found out that my GPU utilization is 99% while gaming, even without the browser opened. My internet speed also isnt the culprit as I have 500/500 fiber optics running here. My main focus about finding out how many PCI-e 3.0 lanes my motherboard supports when the manual only mentions PCI-e 4.0.
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Hey everyone! I hope it's the right place to make the topic, sorry if it's not. I'm about to buy a used RTX 3090 Aorus Xtreme Waterforce from ebay, the seller said it's been used for mining for a year around, still in a great condition, haven't been tempered with ( no repasting or repadding ) warranty sticker still intact. But i have noticed and asked for more pictures because i have seen some rainbow marks on the PCI-e interface, I was looking for any similar topics around for hours, could not find anything like this. I have attached 2 pictures, should i be concerned it's fried or anything like that? Many thanks in advance!
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So, I bought a desktop thought to be broken due to the error message "Please power down and connect the pci-e power cable" not allowing the previous owner to boot into Windows. I thought that the power supply may have been shot or they just didn't connect the correct cable. But now I am stumped, after testing the GPU out on a desktop proven to work. I get the same thing "Please power down and connect the pci-e power cable" Is there perhaps another method of testing which I am missing? Perhaps using a multimeter? Thanks in advance.
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So I just got my new Asus rtx3070 dual. I plug everything in, I have a modular PSU so I drag 2 PCI-E cables to the two 8pin slots. Press start button and nothing happens. I have one 6+2 cable that is not modular since my power supply is semi-modulpr so I try different combinations of modular/non-modular outputs from PSU, nothing even gets me to BIOs. I then reinstall my old graphics card and try booting it with the modular cables (I used the non modular before) and nothing happens. I then suspect the modular parts of the PSU, I have another PC at my television that I loot for a new PSU (also semi-modular but only has motherboard cables as static and all else is modular). Can't boot new GPU or old GPU this way. Now I think it's the cables, except for the fact that one of the cables did work in television PC already. I try in television PC rtx3070 and it works. I am not sure what can be wrong or how I can continue this testing. Here is my specs: Main pc Motherboard: Msi z87-g45 PSU: XFX pro xps-850w-3xb GPU: Gigabyte windforce gtx770 PCU: i5 Storage: 2x Samsung SSD, one 250gb one 1000gb. Television PC Motherboard: Asus P8H67-M PRO/CG8350/DP_MB PSU: Corsair CX750M CPU: i5 Storage: Samsung 1000gb ssd. GPU (not used here troubleshooting): Radeon sapphire dual-X something
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Ok so I looked around and it seems there is no issue at 4k and 1440p since then you are GPU bound, where the issue seems to be is at 1080 in CPU bound scenarios? My question is why?! Can someone please explain why?!! Most also tested on a Ryzen 7 5800 which begs a bigger question what the hell will happen to a Intel Core i5-9600K, Ryzen 5 1600AF & 3600? Or let's go mother of all lemons and use a 4790K or Pentium G3258? How bad can the PCI x8 be on PCI-E 3.0?
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My PC: -MSI B460M-A PRO -i3 10100f -2x8gb ram 2133 oc to 2666 (manual oc) -Corsair VS450 450W 80PLUS -XFX RX 580 -TP Link Archer TX3000E WiFi 6 intel ax-200 pci-e x1 card Hello, due to renting a room I'm forced to use a wifi card in my pc. I bought a TP Link Archer TX3000E WiFi 6 intel ax-200 pci-e x1 card and to my suprise it works great ,however I have a really annoying problem with it - sometimes after powering on the pc it's not being recognized by the system. It will work just fine for 2-3 days, then the next time i power on it simply doesn't get recognized, not only in windows but at a hardware level - when i check the board explorer in the bios it shows that the x1 slot is empty. The only solution I've found is to reseat it in the slot - then it works. A simple restart won't do the job. It's really annoying. It happens only when the pc hasn't been powered on for a while, like overnight. I would use the pc just fine, wake up the next day - it doesn't work and i have to re-seat it. It never happens after a quick reboot, the PC has to be turned off for some time in order to not recognize the card. I'm using the latest BIOS with default settings, the latest intel ax200 windows drivers and I'm sure that the card is seated properly. It is most likely not a problem with the card itself - I've had an ASUS card before and refunded it because of the same issue. Please help
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I'm planning to add a wifi/bluetooth card to my side build (Gigabyte B450 AORUS Elite V2 + Ryzen 5 2600), but the manual for the Mobo says that the PCI-e x4 and x1 slots that I have open/available only run at PCI-e Gen 2.0. Will PCI-e 2.0 x 4 or x1 pose a bandwidth/throttling problem for any BT + Wi-Fi card? Is there a point in adding Wi-Fi 5 or 6 at that point, or will I be limited by the PCI lanes/gen? I'm hoping that the PCI-e throughput, even at 2.0 x4 or x1 will still be fast enough that the actual wireless network/ISP/router will be the bottleneck, not the PCI-e interface. A cursory search didn't turn up much, so I figured I'd ask to see if anyone has had this discussion before.
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Hi, I have a Maximus VIII HERO Z170, and just want to know if the PCIe slots are mutually exclusive from the CPU and Chipset or are they a shared resource. The manual states the following for expansion slots. "New 6Th Gen Intel Core Processors 2 x PCIe 3.0 x 16 slots (supports x16, x8/x8) Intel Z170 Express Chipsets 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slot (max at x4 mode) 3 x PCIe 3.0 x1 slots" So can I technically use all 6 slots. Or by using some I loose the ability to use the others? Or is there a way to limit all the slots to x1 so that I can use them all. Thanks for the help.
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Back in February I bought a desktop with a (Lenovo legion?) GTX 1060 which would only output "Please power down and connect the pci-e power cable". I tried to fix this issue through various testing and methods: - Check if I had connected everything correctly [After checking about 15+ times, everything was in order] - Check if the power supply was shot [Multimeter showed everything to be fine] - Try with another working power supply [Same results] - Is there corrosion? [Nope! All spiffy (though a little dirty)] - What about the VRMs? [I didn't really know what I was looking for when testing them with a multimeter...] The PCIe port on the GPU itself seemed to have been mangled, perhaps suggesting that the previous owner tried to force a cable in that it wasn't meant for... I've already made a post about this before and it didn't lead anywhere, hence why I am shining light on this again in hopes of some new input. Cheers in advance.
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My RTX 2080 won't register while plugged into the x16 slot but will on the x4. I tried a different GPU on the PCI-e x16 slot and had the same issue, second GPU works on the x4 slot as well. I've read a few other articles where people suggest updating bios (did that) and some people who say (on other motherboards) there's a way to enable/disable PCI-e slot, does this hold true for the Z590. I've done a bios update, tried booting with one stick of ram (tried every slot) used the x4 PCI-e Slot, booting with no storage devices. I also reseated the GPU and CPU and checked both for ang signs of damage or blockage in the ports. Specs: -z590 Aorus elite ax (motherboard) -Intel Core i9-10900KF 3.7 GHz LGA 1200 (CPU) -RTX 2080Ti (GPU) -Corsair AX 860 W 80+ Platinum Certified (PSU) -G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 (RAM)
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HELP! I have finally received everything for my PC build only to discover my Power Supply did not come with s PCI-E cable (for some reason) and now I am unable to attach my graphics card to the power supply. I am concerned that just buying a replacement cable off of amazon is going to completely destroy the rest of my build. Are there any options I can turn to? I have already sent my concerns to Gigabyte but chances of getting a response right away are slim.
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guys me being the idiot that I am broke my PCI-E GPU slot retention clip lock, it's the third slot, the x4 one, not that main x16 one so that's great news, I broke it while trying to clean it and the clip that locks the GPU in place is broken above and underneath it, what should I do? If I ever decide to install a GPU in the x4 slot, will a single screw work? The x4 PCI-E slot that fits a third GPU has a broken retention clip, if I decide to install a GPU there will it fall off or something? Or is a single screw tightened from the top of the GPU enough? Any advice?
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Hi everyone apparently Huawei have shown this new thing they will use in PC in China what makes it Very interesting its a 8-core high performance ARM CPU with PCI-E the stock config of the machine comes with a Radeon card! Now what would been cool if Linus and group could try to obtain one and run some benchmarks on this with a high end graphics card maybe? The only concern currently is I am not sure Windows 10 is even compatible with it...
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Long story short, I'm from US and my job working abroad was cut short due to the pandemic and I'm now working back on home turf. I had a supervisor from overseas ship my PC back to me about 1 year ago and, of course, he doesn't remove the video card as requested and it went through a lot of punishment. See attached video of the issue and HW Specs at the bottom. I first discovered the plastic latch that locks the video card in place broke off after I went to reseat the card. I was happy to find that everything appeared to function properly at first, but then over time, video started stuttering and on occasion completely cut off requiring a restart. That would usually fixed the problem. My first thought as a quick fix was to simply use the 2nd PCIe slot on the MB, which is still an option, however the 2nd slot is PCIe 8x slower than the current PCIe 16x that I want to continue using for better gaming performance. Reseating the card sometimes helped, but ultimately found that applying very light pressure to the card to cause it to "sag" just a bit more, provided stable video. As you can see in attached video, lifting the card out of the "sag" position cuts off the video. Recently, something as simple as lightly bumping the table can cause the video to cut off. It's been running moderately stable for about a year, but it's now reached the point where I'm now going to take action. My motherboard selection was a bit overboard as I'm not a creator. I primarily use it as a VM lab for studying/tinkering for work (reason for high core count / memory capacity), and also for performance demanding games as time permits. I simply want to confirm this is a 100% Motherboard issue and replacing the MB will fix the problem? If the answer is yes, I planned to buy a cheaper motherboard that better suits my needs (Lab / Media Consumption / Gaming) then sell this MB on eBay as damaged of course and I would post a link to the video showing the issue with the PCIe 16x slot. Is that my best course of action? Any suggestion are welcome. MBManufacturer MBModel CPU OsName -------------- ------- --- ------ Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z490 VISION D Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10850K CPU @ 3.60GHz Microsoft Windows 10 Home VideoCard ------- AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT MemorySlot Cpty(GB) speed --------- -- ----- BANK 1 16 3200 BANK 3 16 3200 1893930823_videostutter.mp4
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I've recently been researching adding another SSD to my system and I think I'm about to run head long into an issue. To whit, the idea is to use a PCIe expansion card to add a WD_Black SN770 as my gaming drive, or a WD_Black AN1500 addin card for the same. Both will be the 2TB capacity. However, I'm currently wondering if my current setup has not already bifurcated my PCI Express lanes to the point that adding either of those to replace the SATA SSD that I currently use won't work correctly, Some data: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT Mobo: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-E Gaming GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX GTX1080 M.2_1: WD_Black SN750 - 500GB M.2_2: WD_Black SN750 - 500GB SATA SSD: Samsung 860 PRO The manual for the motherboard indicates - although not clearly enough I'd swear to it in a court of law - that the top most slot, PCIe 4.0 x16_1, is meant to be PCI-E with full Generation 4, 16 lane support. Likewise M.2_1 is meant to be Gen4 x4 for the drive. Currently my research says that I should be able to get the full x16 for the GPU and (in my case) up to x4 speed for the NVMe drive at PCIe Gen4. Now according to WE Dashboard, both NVMe drives are Gen3x4 and they are currently running at that speed so no problems there. However the first issue is that according to GPUz my GTX1080 is only running at PCIe Gen3 x8 speed. Now I accept with my luck of late that its probably been that way for ages and I'm hardly at the cutting edge of gaming so I can live with it. However, my question is that if I install either the expansion card (acknowledging that I won't get Gen4 performance out of the SN770 but the difference between NVME and SATA is near unnoticeable) at Gen3 x4 OR the AN1500 which is Gen3 x8, am I going to cut my GPU's lanes in half, again? Or am I better off just leaving the configuration as is? Also if someone could advise me what pulled the GPU down to Gen3 x8 instead of x16, I'd likewise be most grateful.
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I just bought a Kingston Fury Renegade 500GB m.2 ssd, and as soon as i popped it in, launched Crystal Disk Info and Crystal Disk Mark. I got half the R/W speeds that I was expecting. I saw that the m.2 ssd was running on x2 not on x4, that it's supposed to. I installed AMD drivers, went into the BIOS but there wasn't any settings about the M.2 slots. My SYS specs are in the pics, please help me how I can change this to x4...
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I recently bought a powerful HP laptop which has an RTX 3060 (using 16 pcie lanes), 2 thunderbolt ports (I assume 2 x 4 lanes each), and two nvme ssd slots with one populated (I assume 4 lanes each). The CPU (i7 12700H) supports 28 lanes. If my math is correct it’s currently using all of them: (16 + (2x4) + 4) = 28. What will happen if I buy another SSD to fill the second nvme slot and use another 4 lanes? Where will they come from? Thanks for the help in advance. Here is the laptop: https://www.hp.com/ca-en/shop/product.aspx?id=378x7ua&opt=abl&sel=ntb
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I'm wanting to get an LTO drive to allow me to offload large amounts of Video file at a time for archival purposes and free up some space on my HDDs which. I seem to be coming across conflicting information in my research and wondered if anyone had any experience or insight into how the SAS protocol works and how it could be used for my purposes. Ideally I would like to get an LTO5 Drive and internally mount it to a Case with a 5.25" bay (I have an old Antec case which should do fine for this). The drive seems to have an SFF 8484 connector (which I believe is a backplane connector for when the drive is installed in a server/autoloader). I am struggling to find a suitable HBA to connect it to, I had found an LSI 6Gbps SAS HBA 9200-8i that looks to have a pair of SFF 8087 connectors and thought that an adapter from 8484 - 8087 would allow the drive to be detected and functional, but the sellers I have asked seem not to be sure. One also mentioned that they doubted that the HBA would be detected by the PC's Bios...but gave no reason as to why...is there something I'm missing here? I know that using (particularly older) LTO drives isn't exactly easy in Windows, but I do have access to an older Mac Pro if that makes more sense or of course am happy to run Linux on the final build of the LTO backup PC. Likewise I have found out that there needs to be sufficient air flow to keep the LTO Drive iself and possibly the HBA cool enough to operate. Any help would be amazing! Thanks
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Since the top end GPUs require 2x6(8) pin PCI-E cables I am just wondering how many of cable it using a single cable from PSU that is split into 2x6(8) connectors or do you run 2 individual cables to your PSU? I've always done the single cable to PSU method but some people have said 2 cables gives more stability. Thoughts?
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Does anyone know of a utility for monitoring PCI-E lane throughput or utilization (not lane assignments but actual bandwidth utilization) that shows output realtime, preferably with a display similar to FRAPS, etc.? I'm not looking for a benchmark but a realtime monitor. I'm curious as to the bus utilization during certain operations. I'd like to see utilization per slot, CPU vs chipset, etc.
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Hi all, I currently use ethernet on my pc but am about to be moving it a room without access to any ethernet so i'm going to get a wireless adaptor. I believe that the adaptor will fit but i just want to make sure. My motherboard is the ASUS B250m-a (and i'm currently using the top pci-e slot for my gpu) and the wireless adaptor is the TP-LINK T4E AC1200 Wireless Dual Band PCIe Adapter (bit.ly/2POa5AH). My main concern is that it won't fit in the bottom slot but...just want to make sure. Thanks,
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Hello anyone whom may be able to give me some advice, I have installed an archer T6E PCI-e wifi adapter from Tp-link installed in my desktop at the moment, and since I built the computer 6 weeks ago my wifi speeds have never been perfect. Sadly in my current living situation, I'm not able to have my tower close enough to the router to get on the 5G bandwidth network from my router, so i use the 2.4G network. According to the network status I still have a 300Mbps connection with the router on this 2.4G network. However despite my 100Mbps internet speed at my house, only 20Mbps is acheived on my PC when doing speed tests. Would someone mind explaining to me this difference? I'm not that informed on networking as a whole. That internet speed of 20 is matched if i put my phone or tablet right onto the antennas of the PCI-e adapter; however moving them six inches away from the tower boosts the wireless speed on my phone or tablet to 60Mbps. So i am curious whether other computer components could be causing some kind of weird interference? Again, sorry if these are really stupid questions. I know this could all be resolved using a wired connection but sadly that isn't an option for me right now. Thank you in advance for anyone who can enlighten me on this and just give me a little bit of information. also if i have missed any key information please don't hesitate to remind me and i will post it pronto!