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  1. Budget (including currency): I don't even care anymore... I just want to see this happen at all! Country: United States Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Primarily gaming, but for IA-32, ARM, amd64, and ARM64 games running natively. Also, the ability to basically be the ultimate software compatibility machine in the universe with the ability to be compatible with the universe itself. Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Preferably in the E-ATX form factor, ATX is better but less likely, as there obviously needs to be two CPU sockets. Is there any such attempt at ever making this happen? Obviously, I don't care about keeping the machine small, so don't worry about it becoming too large. This is similar in concept to one machine that had both an 86 and a Z80 processor onboard to be able to run CP/M applications for both Z80 and 86! Normally, if one wanted to upgrade to an 86 CP/M machine, they would have to give up Z80 application support. I don't really know too much about this either, I just know that it sounds awesome from a software compatibility perspective, even from a time where complete and utter incompatibility and complete lack of standardization was the expectation.
  2. Big shout out to MSI for sponsoring this video! Check out all of their products we used down below. PCI Express gen 4 has been around for over a year and a half now – But it hasn’t really made much of a difference… Does that change with Ryzen 5000, RTX 3000, and Radeon 6000? Buy MSI RTX 3090 SUPRIMX X GPU (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/6dT9AXK Buy MSI Radeon RX 6900 XT (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/uVzF Buy AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/3eJzht
  3. So, what is the difference between PCI Express 3.0 and 4.0? Or more precisely, is there any difference in performance if i put a gpu with 4.0 into a slot with 3.0? And if it is so, is it that bad when doing that? In advance thanks for any help tho
  4. Hello all, I come to seek help and suggestions from you all. Currently I have an MSI B-450 A Motherboard. The latest Chipset drivers from AMD are installed as well as the latest UEFI version. Windows 10 1909 is installed as of now. (I will be updating now to eliminate this being an issue) Currently installed on the board in PCI-e slots are: NVMe drive, GTX 1070, and newly Cisco VIC 1225 Fiber Channel card in that order. The Cisco card is also installed in an R2 server I own with no issues. The latest Drives are installed from Cisco (4.2) The Card Functions as it should Only when I go into UEFI and change a setting for PCI Express, it tends to not matter what setting. For example, changing the lane size from 8x8 to 4x4x4x4 then booting to windows 10 will make the card function. Then upon restart with the same settings will get driver error and no card will show up on device manager. I have tried different settings to see if anything sticks but no luck. VEN 1137 = Cisco DEV 004E = VIC 82 PCIe Upstream Port I am also aware of this post from Cisco containing a bug, but I do not believe to be part of my issue, due to this problem occurring with these steps taken still. The only other things I can think to try are updating windows 10 to 21H2 (Idk what good that will do) or switching the physical locations of the cards. I have also tried Hack Flags in the registry, but it does not actually fix the issue. The main thing here is, what is actually causing the issue? Cisco? MSI? AMD? Windows? Meee? I know Cisco will give me a big fat L for my troubles. Thank you for any suggestions. EDIT: Windows 10 has been updated to 21H2 with no change
  5. I apologize if this comes across as a highly idiotic question, but I've honestly never really put serious thought into it and have suddenly encountered something that brought it up...but if you have a motherboard with a chipset built around PCI-E 3.0 for example, and the 16X slot is linked to the CPU, and the mechanical interface (pinout) between generations is the same, if you upgrade CPUs that span PCI-E generations (ex. Zen 1 vs. Zen 3 (at least the ones that actually are 4.0)), you still don't get PCI-E 4.0 suddenly on the CPU-linked x16 slot and/or NVMe M.2 slot, even in terms of speeds, correct? I'm guessing no. I know there are other changes between generations, but since there's mechanical compatibility, that thought just passed my brain. The chipset obviously isn't changing unless the motherboard is swapped. Also, yes, I know that there's very little that's going to push the x16 3.0 bus. Scaling on the 4090 shows maybe a 3% drops between generations.
  6. I have the Asus x99-A II motherboard Intel 6850K with 40 PCI lanes Nvidia GTX 1080 SLI with HB bridge Intel 750 PCI-E SSD Per manual instructions I installed GPU 1 in PCIEX_1 slot, GPU 2 in PCIEX_3 slot and the SSD in PCIEX_4 slot, then I noticed GPU 1 was only running at x8 lanes! Later found out that PCIEX_1 & PCIEX_4 share bandwidth! I'm not sure any other configurations are possible since PCIEX_2 slot sandwiched between the GPUs is only Gen 2.0 and that shares bandwidth with a whole bunch of other features. I've read everywhere that x8 vs x16 is utterly insignificant but I've also read that it is more significant with modern games and especially modern GPUs like the GTX 1080. I'm even more concerned since it's the PRIMARY GPU running x8 and not the secondary, and many games don't even use the secondary GPU which would just be sitting there with all of its x16 lanes! Any suggestions?
  7. Hi. I'm planning on building a low cost gaming/autodesk maya capable rig. I was looking through my options and I ran into a question that I cant get a straight answer to from many online sources I searched. Here are some relavant components that I want to put together: Intel i7-7700K - Newegg.com ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - Newegg.com ASUS ROG Maximus IX Hero - Newegg.com So, to the question. I noticed that CPU can support only 16 PCI lanes. The GPU needs 16 PCI lanes. Now, if I'd like to connect M.2 (Socket 3 with M Key) SSD, does it use 4 PCI lanes? Does it impair GPUs full, 16 PCI lanes, potential? P.S. In case it does weaken GPU performance, what would be a CPU that you can advice for me to get that can support both 1080 Ti and M.2?
  8. I'm getting this error returned from my Energy Report. Not sure what to do about it. Currently using Windows 7 Ultimate. Here is my build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4PgLQV
  9. Which of these two slots has more bandwidth and by how much?
  10. asrock X299 OC Formula motherboard: I have at most two video cards. slot population rules from manual ----------------------------------------- (1) 5 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 Slots* * If you install CPU with 44 lanes, PCIE1/PCIE3/PCIE4/PCIE5/PCIE7 will run at x16/x0/x0/x16/x8 or x8/x8/x8/x8/x8. * If you install CPU with 28 lanes, PCIE1/PCIE3/PCIE4/PCIE5/PCIE7 will run at x16/x0/x0/x8/x4 or x8/x8/x0/x8/x4. * If you install CPU with 16 lanes, PCIE1/PCIE3/PCIE4/PCIE5/PCIE7 will run at x16/x0/x0/x0/x4 or x8/x0/x0/x8/x4. * Please note that the 3-way SLI configuration varies depending on processor type. * Supports NVMe SSD as boot disks (2) 1 x PCI Express 3.0 x4 Slot (PCIE6: x4 mode) (Flexible PCIe)** ** If you install CPU with 28 lanes or 16 lanes, PCIE6 will be disabled. (3) 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 Slot (4) Supports AMD Quad CrossFireX, 4-Way CrossFireX, 3-Way CrossFireX TM and CrossFireX TM *** *** 4-Way CrossFireX TM is only supported with CPU with 44 lanes or 28 lanes. (5) Supports NVIDIA® Quad SLI, 4-Way SLI, 3-Way SLI, and SLI **** **** 3-Way SLI TM is only supported with CPU with 44 lanes or 28 lanes; 4-Way SLI TM is only supported with CPU with 44 lanes. (6) 15μ Gold Contact in VGA PCIe Slot (PCIE1 and PCIE5) PCIE1 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x16 lane width graphics cards. PCIE2 (PCIe 2.0 x 1 slot) is used for PCI Express x 1 lane width cards. PCIE3 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x 8 lane width graphics cards. PCIE4 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x 8 lane width graphics cards. PCIE5 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x16 lane width graphics cards. PCIE6 (PCIe 3.0 x 4 slot) is used for PCI Express x 4 lane width graphics cards. PCIE7 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x 8 lane width graphics cards. PCIe Slot Configurations (For CPU with 44 PCIe lanes) PCIE1 3 4 5 7 x16 N/A N/A N/A N/A ; 1 Graphics Card x16 N/A N/A x16 N/A ; 2 Graphics Cards in 2-Way CrossFireX Mode or 2-Way SLI Mode x16 N/A N/A x16 x8 ; 3 Graphics Cards in 3-Way CrossFireX Mode or 3-Way SLI Mode x8 x8 N/A x16 x8 ; 4 Graphics Cards in 4-Way CrossFireX Mode or 4-Way SLI Mode ( last row is what I want PCIE1,PCIE3,PCIE7 at x8 and PCIE5 at x16 ); PCIe Slot Configurations (For CPU with 28 PCIe lanes) PCIE1 3 4 5 7 x16 N/A N/A N/A N/A ; 1 Graphics Card x16 N/A N/A x8 N/A ; 2 Graphics Cards in 2-Way CrossFireX Mode or 2-Way SLI Mode x8 x8 N/A x8 N/A ; 3 Graphics Cards in 3-Way CrossFireX Mode or 3-Way SLI Mode x8 x8 N/A x8 x4 ; 4 Graphics Cards in 4-Way CrossFireX Mode Suppose I have a 44 lane CPU and I set it in bios to x8/x8/x8/x8/x8: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I want to use the rest of the video slots at x8 for non-video cards: pw = physical width; slot; pw; lanes; card; PCIE1: x16 x8 ; video; PCIE2: x 1 x1 ; PCIE3: x16 x8 ; NIC 10baseT; uses x8 or x4 lanes; full speed; PCIE4: x16 x8 ; USB 3.x; uses x4 lanes; Supposedly x8 lanes available????; PCIE5: x16 x16; video; PCIE6: x 4 x4 ; thunderbolt; PCIE7: x16 x8 ; note used x44 lanes total; Suppose I have a 44 lane CPU and I have to set it to x16/x0/x0/x16/x8: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I want to use the rest of the video slots at x8 for non-video cards: pw = physical width; slot; pw; lanes; card; PCIE1: x16 x16; video; PCIE2: x 1 x1 ; USB 3.x; normally requires x4 lanes; PCIE3: x16 x0 ; PCIE4: x16 x0 ; PCIE5: x16 x16; video; PCIE6: x 4 x4 ; thunderbolt; PCIE7: x16 x8 ; NIC 10baseT; uses x8 or x4 lanes; full speed; note used x44 lanes total; QUICK QUESTIONS PLEASE: -------------------------- concerned about the so-called "video" slots (PCIE1, PCIE3, PCIE4, PCIE5, PCIE7); I want to use the rest of the video slots at x8 for non-video cards, (but these motherboards are marketed exclusively to gamers who mainly care about SLI and crossfire and presumably do not want to use non-video cards); Can you put anything you want in any slot (assuming it physically fits) and assuming there are enough lanes allocated to that slot it will operate at full speed ???? more specifically: Will the motherboard force me to use x16/x0/x0/x16/x8 and run PCIE3 and PCIE4 at x0 if I plug in only one or two video cards ???? Can you put the video in one of the "video slots" for example PCIE1 and the NIC in PCIE7 as shown above with both of them working at the same time ???? Can you put a video card in PCIE1 and an NVIDIA Tesla in PCIE5 if those slots are each allocated 16 lanes ???? In bios, you can set the individual speeds (#lanes ???) of the PCIE1 ... PCIE7 slots, but what restrictions are there ???? Is this typical of all the recent motherboards with SLI/Crossfire ???? please note if you are absolutely certain about your reply before I pay for the motherboard. my existing computer is 11 years old, and I can not afford to waste my money. MUCH THANKS regards
  11. I have a dell optiplex 7020 MT. Motherboard is this Genuine-Dell-Optiplex-7020-Motherboard-DP-N-F5C5X-LGA-1150.See this pic: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1ZxG1j27AlgMGNFZ01OS...In the pic, can I install my pciE x1 wireless adapter in the number 1 labeled black slot? And install a gtx 750 ti graphcis card on the number 5 labeled slot? I can't install the pcie x1 card on the 3 labeled because the gtx 750 ti requires two brackets, and it would take the place on the pcie x1 slot.I dont have the gtx 750 ti yet. I will still buy it. Before buying it, i tried installing the pcie x1 wireless adapter on the number 1 labeled slot. But computer would turn on, but my mouse, keyboard, monitor wouldn't. Is it becuase the number 5 slot is empty right now? So when I get my graphis card and install it in the number 5, and my wireless card in the number 1, will everything work fine?I'm sorry if i confused you a lot. Please help me. And btw i installed a 520w power supply. Will the gtx 750 ti work?
  12. Hello. I own a Lenovo Z51-70 80K6 notebook laptop that I bought about 18 months back. Specifications: CPU: Intel Core i5-5200U 5th Gen Broadwell CPU 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 2.3 GHz, (2.7 GHz on Turbo), 15W TDP iGPU: Intel HD 5500 Memory: SK Hynix 8GB DDR3L (Single Stick) Dedicated GPU: AMD Radeon R9 m375 4GB GDDR3 (shares from system memory), 75W TDP (HOT) (AMD Tropo) Storage: WD Blue Caviar 1 TB 5400 rpm 2.5" SATA OS: Windows 10.0 Home 10240 Okay. So my laptop was working all fine till 3 days ago when I was playing GTA Online and watching a video on YT. Then suddenly it froze the screen. I couldn't open up task manager and the num lock or caps lock keys wouldn't toggle when I pressed them. The only option I had was to forcefully shut down the laptop using the power button. Tried booting into Windows a couple times, got a black screen (with no response from caps, num lock). Got a successful boot once and it worked fine for like 30 seconds before a yellow alert box appeared in the notification area by the clock. I opened up task manager, saw that a Windows Host process was the culprit. It froze again. I completely shut it down booted into safe mode and checked the event viewer to see what exactly was the problem. There it said that the AMD Drivers stopped responding and successfully got restarted,I guess how because the PC totally froze. I booted into normal mode again but this time it BSOD'ed stating "THREAD_ERROR_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER (atikmdag.sys)". That time I was using Crimson 16.xx.x (<16.7x) version drivers. This error usually shows up when the drivers are faulty but mine never were. I did a system reset of Windows and it had the OEM installed AMD Drivers Catalyst 14.x or something. Removed the OEM installed AMD Drivers using DDU in safe mode, installed back Crimson which crashed my laptop a few more times giving errors mentioning atikmdag.sys like "PAGE_POOL_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA (atikmdag.sys)" (or something) and some more. I did another system reset but this time I used the OEM AMD Drivers and it worked all right except it crashed my PC (atikmdag.sys) or froze it when I tried to play any game. Did a couple more resets, used the AMD Driver Finder Utility to install appropriate drivers, still got same crashes. I know for a fact that it's not the drivers and it can't be the RAM either. I tried different and newest versions of Crimson but no help. Please note that Crimson edition drivers froze my PC on startup (black screen) or on successful boots with a yellow alert box followed by BSOD, while the Catalyst drivers only crashed or froze the PC when I launched any game. Catalyst and Crimson both gave me BSODs all of which had one thing in common, atikmdag.sys. They both BSOD'ed with 'xxxxxx (atikmdag.sys)' errors and completely froze the PC. I used my laptop to play games all day and night. My playing time on GTAO for the last 30 days is 12 days. The GPU chip runs hot because of the terrible cooling system but temps are ok (below 80C during gameplay). Used BIOS to turn it to use the iGPU 'UMA Graphics' instead of 'Switchable Graphics' and everything works as it should in normal Windows mode. Can even play games off the iGPU. What could be the problem exactly? Is my R9 m375 burned? Did any fluctuations in the current or voltage cause it to malfunction? Or is it's PCB damaged like solder went bad or whatever? I currently have the OEM Catalyst drivers but I'm running off the iGPU (R9 m375 disabled through BIOS) and everything runs fine mind you, even games. When running with the switchable graphics (HD 5500 + R9 m375) can't play games and GPU-Z or HWiNFO would get stuck at 'Analyzing PCI Link' or something like that and it BSODs. My laptop is not in warranty anymore. What do I do? Thank you for taking your time to read this.
  13. Hello LTT forum. I seem to have an issue with my build. I built my pc a few months back but now realized I have an issue. I am using the EVGA Z170 Classified K mobo with the Cooler Master V8 GTS - High Performance CPU Cooler with Horizontal Vapor Chamber and 8 Heatpipes. I did not realize that my PCI Express x16 may not be able to support a 1060 that I am putting in it (space between the CPU cooler and the PCI Express slot). When I ordered the mobo from newegg they stated I hade 4 x PCI Express x16 instead of stating there is only 1 x16, 1 x8/x4, 1 x4 and 1 x1. So I was wondering if anyone would recommend me using a PCI Express 16x Riser Card or something else. If you could also post a link to what you would prefer for this I would appreciate it. I don't want to remove my CPU cooler as I get 18 degrease Celsius idle and around 35 degrease Celsius when I put on heavy loads like gaming or video editing. I know I would be able to use the X8 slot but I would prefer to use the x16 instead.
  14. The new upcoming GPUs from AMD are using PCIe 4.0. From what I've read, it will bring double the transfer rates than PCIe 3.0, which sounds great for SSDs and non-gaming applications, but are there any advantages for gaming when using PCIe 4.0 rather than PCIe 3.0 ?
  15. Hi all, Purchased a Dell desktop (would build but for business so need an easy warranty) to use for capturing video to livestream and record. I need a x8 slot for the capture card I am using (Blackmagic DeckLink Quad HDMI), and the board only has one x16 slot (gen 3 I think) so my graphics card (AMD Ryzen Pro WX3100) i have had to put in a x4 slot. Will this have a noticeable impact on performance? Also, is a graphics card even necessary for my workload? Will be running 3 full hd PTZ cameras and one PC in all over HDMI. Planning to use Wirecast studio as the solution to stream it all. pc spec is: i7 8700 16gb DDR4 2666mhz 256gb m.2 ssd Radeon Pro WX 3100 Blackmagic DeckLink Quad HDMI capture card (x8) Would really appreciate any tips! Thanks all!
  16. Off ebay cause my pc not to boot to windows
  17. so I just picked up a second RTX 2080 (non TI), with two things in mind. if the games I play scale well and I get better performance than a 2080TI 30-50% of the time its money well spent as its cheaper. (factoring in used hardware). Also I don't game in 4k resolution only 1440p ultrawide so i don't need the extra GPU memory. With Ryzen 2 coming out I will be upgrading to X570 and the 12 core monster. As I am not familiar with PCI bandwidth restrictions I am looking for info on it. With two 2080's, 2080TI's, or RTX Titans, could any of these saturate PCI express Gen3 to its full limits? If so do you think Nvida could release a driver update to support gen 4? (I don't know if this is even possible) I have always loved running multi GPU setups and miss the days or 3-way and 4-way SLI. I personally know its not the most cost efficient way to collect more power. and can scale negatively. However, coming up on smaller and smaller architectures coming out for CPU's and GPU's I feel multi GPU setups will be the next "mainstream" enthusiast builds. As Navi and RTX will come closer and closer in performance over the next 3 years. Is any of this even a relevant thought? Please let me know what you think.
  18. Is there some kind of splitter to turn 1 16x pcie slot to, for example, 4 4x slots? (Not mining related). Although i will plug my gpu to one of the slots the rest will be for, raid card(s) and 10gb networking. My question essentially is, is this possible (for cheap preferably) or will i have to upgrade my board? Ps. I'm using an lga1150 moba, so upgrading it will be pretty expensive since i will also have to buy ram and cpu. Thanks, in advance!
  19. I decided to replace my GTX 960 Mini with a GTX 1070. The product page for my PC says I have a 600 W PSU but I can only see 1 6-pin connector that's connected to my current card. See image: I read that such adapter is not recommended. So do I need a new PSU? My specs: Intel Core i7-4790 (4 cores) up to 4Ghz 2Tb SATA3 7200rpm 16Gb DDR3 1600Mhz DVD-RW Super Multi ASUS GeForce GTX960 2Gb GDDR5 600W Silent PFC 12cm (I guess it's this one)
  20. If i plug a x16 3.0 gpu to a PCI Express x16 downshifted to a x4 will it change the performance ?
  21. hello i want to upgrade ma laptop with a NVME ssd Samsung evo970. my question is that i cant understand is if buying this is over paying or not because its a PCIe Gen 3.0 x4 device and i think that my m.2 slut is PCIe Gen 3.0 x2? please help me i cant figure this out i will attach the pic of my system config its an acer laptop core i5 7200U model E5-745G thanks
  22. Hi! I bought an NVMe SSD without looking up a whole lot about it for black friday. Turns out my motherboard has PCIE2 slots, not PCIE 3. I was looking up some data, and I found that PCIE2x8 has the same bandwidth as PCIE3x4. Is there a way to split PCIE3x4 to PCIE2x8 so that I can use an NVMe riser card without losing bandwidth? I tried looking on google, but it only sees "PCIE3 x8" and gives me many pcie threads for GPUs. Thanks! EDIT: Changed title from 'split' to 'adapt' because 'split' implies a different thing than what I'm doing.
  23. I don't really know much about this but I want to see Linus/Anthony hook up a Quadro to a Pi. Here's the article. From people who don't really want to read the whole thing here's a brief overview: Replace the USB controller with custom pcb to allow for PCIe over USB or maybe a wild Anthony will make a custom pcb, then hook up a usb cable to a weird pcb with two PCIe 16x slots. My first post by the way!
  24. Can anyone please help with this? I want to Install my graphics card jn the second PCIe x16 slot but I am not able to find(or rather not able to understand) the bandwidth of that slot from the official motherboard specifications. I have a ryzen 3rd gen Matisse cpu. Mobo: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X570 phantom Gaming 4/index.asp
  25. I'm not sure if this is the best categorie in the forum for this question but this is what I got. My HP Envy x360 15 15-w117cl has a space where it looks like an m.2 SSD would be possible to mount but there's no PCIE mini slot on the board other than the one for the wifi card. There are contacts on the board that look like solder spots but no connector and in the instruction manual on the HP website it says there's a slot for m.2 ssds but it may be referring to a different model number since the instruction is for multiple models. I couldn't find any website selling just PCIE mini slots or in the HP part seller store. If I can't add a PCIE slot I'll just replace the HDD. It is possible that there's a PCIE mini slot on the bottom of the board but I haven't flipped it over yet and when I called up HP support to see if they could help but it was a joke. Also is it possible to add a GPU I've seen other models with a gpu on the area I circled. Thanks for anyone that can help me find some answers.
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