Search the Community

Hi. My mouse’s left switch is broken (pic attached). The switch just came out and won't go in. What switch types can be replaced with the stock ones of this Razer Deathadder 2000 dpi mouse (it came with the Cynosa Pro Bundle 2016 edition)? I don’t want to spend any further than $4 per switch. Please suggest the best recommendations available as of now. I am coming after watching the following video:

"Japanese quality" they said. "20-million" clicks they said. F*ck Omron and everyone that is implementing that junk into their mice. I've owned the following mice; Razer DeathAdder Mionix Naos 7000 Corsair Glaive and each one of them had the same problem: The left mouse button would fail and start double clicking or not registering a click. Now my Logitech G403 is doing the same. I bought the mouse on the 19th of January - THIS YEAR After the second mouse I thought - oh well, maybe it's me. Maybe I'm too harsh to them, but to be honest I was a fool for thinking that. Of course it wasn't me. I've babied the G403 and I have mostly played Cities: Skylines and single-player games that don't require a lot of clicking and yet it failed, just like all my other mice with Omron switches. My first DeathAdder did not have that problem, even tho back then I was literally smashing the thing to pieces in Modern Warfare 3 - especially because I was playing a lot of USP.45 with silencer (got a good trigger finger and it runs faster than an MP7). How is this even possible? My theory is that Omron is full of sh*t. Just like the mice manufacturers. There's no wonder companies like Bloody went to developing their own optical switches. I'll return this motherf*cking pile of plastic garbage tomorrow and get a new one. The exact same one again. Just to prove a point. F*ck you Logitech and all the others too. Does anyone know of a good tool to measure the amount of clicks? I'll let that run and see if I actually exceed the 20 million or not this time! btw. thanks for letting me blow off some steam. in return I was so nice to put little stars into each curse word.

so what makes OMRON mouse switches special in my opinion there’s nothing different beetween that and a switch from an A4 Tech mouse

Hi I bought the rival 310 a few months ago and im having double click issues and the store i bought it from here in the philippines aint clear on warranty so imma try and fix this on my own if i get no response. I saw video on youtube with someone fixing the problem by replacing the switch with omron switches, looked easy enough lol. So my question is do all omron switches fit with the rival 310 or is there a specific model I need to get? The only model i can find in an online store here in my country is the d2fc-f-7n. Will this work? And as someone who has never done this is it as easy as the video makes it? this is the video Oh and i also found some houano clickers. Are they the same? Are all mouse clickers the same shape and size? I opened up my cheaper mouse which had is cable cut due to well, mice, and it had huano switches. Maybe I'll just recycle these lol

I'm writing this just to add on to the countless other complains that have been registered on the issue of the Logitech mouse start double clicking after even few months of use. I personally had to RMA two g304s before the warranty expired and guess what? it broke again, while thankfully I was able to get myself a refund that's not a solution (warranty period is only a year in my region and usually takes a month to 40 days to get the product back). A close friend had to RMA a g304 (he also refunded it in the end to save himself from the headache), one of his g403 started to double click shortly after the warranty period expired. I just can't understand why a big name like Logitech can't do its own switch RND and develop its own switch technology or at the very least use the better Japanese Omrons instead of the cheap Chinese ones. Like wth Logitech? Even their flagship mouse the GPW has the same double clicking issue. Seeing Razer developing its own optical switches and Asus ROG providing hot swappable switches I'm curious to see what Logitech does to solve this issue that plagues all of its mouse or at least the G branding ones, that is if they even bother to. Its ridiculous at this point tbh.

So I just bought the creative soundblasterx keyboard off of massdrop, and boy is it bright. The only issue I currently have with it is the keycaps. They are horrendous. The tops are very slippery, bad enough to almost drive me back to using my redragon k557. Does anyone know of any Omron compatible keycaps out there that I can install on this keyboard to make it perfect? Criteria is that I need something that my fingers will not slip off of while typing, and it needs to be able to let the RGB LED function sign through the keycaps (double shot injection maybe). I should add that I am a touch typist so that is the main reason that a tactile keycap that my fingers can rest in one place on is important to me.

So, I happened by my local Best Buy store today (a friend was taking his Asus laptop in for service, YET AGAIN) and decided to check out the keyboard section. Now, I must admit that I have been in the market for a new keyboard for some time now, and this isn't just a "childish whim" kind of purchase for me, though really, who spends this kind of money on a whim? Anyway, they had the G910, the Corsair K70, and the Razer Chroma. I sat there playing with the keystroke actions on all of them and found that there is a clear difference between the three. They also had a Thermaltake RGB keyboard, but not on display, so I cannot say whether that one felt like one of these three. I have been looking to get a mechanical keyboard, but ALSO maintain some level of sound sanity when I am typing, especially considering that I work in a small room and don't want to wake the roommates up at odd hours of the night with a string of heavy clacks. To that end, the G910 was the clear winner. While the Corsair seemed slightly quieter than the Razer, they were both just too loud. To top the sound issue off, the Razer action seemed to feel "cheap." I'm not really sure what they have done, but it definitely feels like an inferior product as far as the tactile feedback is concerned. The Corsair felt really good, but actually... Not as good as the Logitech (to me.) I have to admit, these Romer switches are pretty amazing. The lighting is phenomenal! There is virtually no bleed behind and around the keys, and the brightness and uniformity of the light coverage is simply miles ahead of the other two display models, with the Corsair leaking light out of the base like it is supposed to satisfy a small child sleeping in the next room, as a nightlight. Really, Corsair, you should do something about that, because I can imagine that would be quite obnoxious when doing anything in the dark. All of these things made my choice pretty clear, and I went ahead and took a G910 home. So far, so good... Just... The software is STILL lacking features that I would love to have. Linus did his review over a YEAR ago, and not much has improved in that time. In fact, after doing some research, I have discovered that Logitech did finally come out with more traditional key-caps (which I WILL be ordering, because the odd shape of some of these keys is pretty jarring on your fingers during longer typing sessions, like this post.) That is just about all they have done though. When we are discussing a $180 (US) keyboard, that is pretty shameful. The more traditional keys are also a $40 EXTRA that you have to purchase just to make the keyboard practical enough for daily use. Thankfully, it was $40 off today for some sale, so I won't really be out much once I order those keys next week. Spectacular key switches! Wonderful tactile feedback for people used to run-of-the-mill rubber-dome keyboards! Amazing lighting quality! HORRIBLE key-caps! I will actually do a proper review once I have the other keys and a lot more time using it, but ultimately, I am more interested right now in hearing if some creative person has created some alternative lighting control software for the Logitech keyboards. Essentially, the color cycling and wave patterns look pretty cool and are great for showing off the keyboard, but they are quite distracting when you are actually trying to concentrate on something more serious than Facebook. I would love the ability to make individual keys cycle, rather than the entire keyboard. I would like a solid back-light for the keyboard itself, and go through the RGB spectrum on the Logitech "G" logo and G910 badge-plate. If anyone knows of a solution to help me get this done, please let me know. It's not a deal-breaker for the keyboard, but it is an annoying limitation to the software.

Logitech G910 Orion Spark NCIX: http://bit.ly/1HwGguZ Amazon: http://geni.us/3kRw Logitech and Omron flew us out to Japan to show us just how much goes into each and every Romer-G switch... Thanks to Logitech and Omron for making this video possible!

(Now with a 3good picture from a T5 Rebel.) I’ve had an uninteresting/boring past when it comes to keyboards. My first keyboard with my gaming PC was a Microsoft Wireless 800. After that came a Logitech MK320. My first two keyboards then were plastic hunks of wireless membrane junk. There wasn’t really anything wrong with either of them, but they didn’t feel very nice and they didn’t feel like high-quality solutions. So, I wised up. I went around the internet a bit and people were talking about “mechanical keyboards.” I learned about Cherry MX, the most common switch type and the keyboards that carried them. I looked for the best price for what I wanted and I ended up with a Razer BlackWidow Tournament Edition. It rocked Cherry MX Blues. While I liked the feel, the build quality and noise let me far down. I used it for about a year, and then found the Logitech G710 Plus. I heard about how Cherry MX Browns were basically quiet MX Blues and how the G710 Plus was one of the best gaming keyboards out there. I wasn’t a fan of the color scheme but I picked one up and fell in love. It felt great. So, two years down the line I find myself wanting something new. The keyboard market has changed quite a lot now. Cherry’s patent on the MX design expired and companies started making their own, most notably Kailhua (Rosewill RGB80, Razer’s new BlackWidows, Thermaltake’s Poseidon Z, etc.) But they were obviously cheap Cherry ripoffs, feel and all. I wanted something that would still scream quality and be an actual upgrade from the G710+. I was originally set on getting Corsair’s K70 RGB, as the lighting and genuine Cherry switches drew me in. However, considering how much of a hard time my cousin has had with his original keyboard and his replacement, I became skeptical. The software on Corsair’s solution, while having better features than the G910 has some obvious issues and a steep learning curve. There were few other options for RGB keyboards since the RGB80 and BlackWidow Chroma use Kailhua switches. There was one obvious choice left though, and it was from Logitech. The G910 Orion Spark. The appearance is striking, the design leaves questions and the lighting is gorgeous and hassle-free. But it comes at a higher average price point than the Chroma and K70. I feel however that it’s not fair to compare the Orion Spark to the K70, as the obvious omission of macro keys leaves but the K95 RGB for Corsair, which retails at a whopping $189.99 USD (though it can be found for less.) But the G910 has Omron’s new Romer-G switch, how does it stack up to Cherry? Let's dive in and find out. Build/Design It has a fair bit of heft to it. It’s thick, chunky and very nicely built. It uses soft touch plastic nearly everywhere, with gloss black plastic in some key places (like between the wrist rest and the keyboard’s body.) Crumbs and debris may build up in that area over time, but it’s nothing a can of air won’t get rid of. The keycaps have a sharp inward angle to them to keep your fingers in place. They perform their function fairly well, though I’m not a huge fan of the feel. The inconsistency in the design of the keycaps is what really kills it though for me. The WASD, arrow keys and G keys have a line design on them, the rest of the keys do not. Some of the keys have sharp angles, some are rather tame and the Windows keys are convex. It feels like a mishmash of design decisions made by multiple people without taking input. Lighting/Arx Dock/Arx Companion The lighting shines through the keycaps in a very uniform and strong enough manner. The colors are vibrant, however the color wheel in Logitech’s Gaming Software is not entirely accurate. I found that I had to play around with it a lot to get the exact color I wanted, but I was always able to get the color right. Unfortunately, the NUM/CAPS/SCROLL lock lights and the media keys are permanently blue. Disappointing but not a deal breaker. The software is very easy to use, but I would like to see more lighting diversity in the mix (for example, make the colors in the wave mode editable and make a reactive typing mode like Corsair’s with the water pond effect.) Now for the part everyone has been waiting for, the Arx Dock! Kidding, but it’s an interesting add for sure. The Arx companion app for iOS and Android is easy to use and offers some nice features, such as modifying macros and monitoring system temps and usage. It’s a nice addition to an awesome keyboard. Ergonomics/Comfort Sorry to bore you guys with everything but the switches, but I see this as an important time to talk about ergonomics. The keycap design is interesting, but a little strange and uncomfortable to use. You will get used to them, but it takes time. That’s not my concern though. The wrist rest design is seemingly inadequate. While writing this review, I had to take a couple of breaks because my right wrist was feeling sore (though I have not yet felt that same soreness again since.) The left wrist is fine due to the large palm mount, but the right wrist isn’t left with much as it’s assumed that the keyboard will be used primarily for gaming. I would have loved to see a uniform design here, though if you’re willing to hack apart a $170 keyboard with a Dremel it can be fixed. That’s not a valid solution though. Omron's switches Lastly, the switches. Omron, you have really outdone yourselves here. They’re almost perfect to me. They bottom out quickly, which I happen to like a lot. They feel like shallow MX Reds, yet they feel better than an analogy can describe. They’re pretty quiet, they feel great and they’re good for any typist. Too bad the caps are so angled. If the switches were designed to be compatible with MX stems, they would be perfect. The lack of availability of aftermarket caps is another downside then. If you want a highly customizable keyboard, this isn’t the one for you. Closing To close, I can say this with great certainty. This is the best keyboard I have ever used so far bar none. It’s nicely built out of materials that were well thought out with the end user in mind, the switches feel sublime and the lighting is beautiful. However, the keycaps are awkward to use, the blue LEDs for the media keys is a disappointment and the wrist rest is not the best. I would like to expand my mech collection in the future, hopefully with a KBC Pok3r or a Unicomp Ultra Classic 103-key. Those will wait for another day though. For a numeric score, I decided to use a system similar to JonnyGuru’s PSU ratings, which rate categorically on a scale of 1-10 and average those numbers into a final score. I will also include a list of pros and cons if the review was hard to follow or if you’re making the decision as I speak. Pros Beautiful design Nice, grippy finish on keycaps and chassis Vibrant and colorful LEDs Amazing switch feel Cons Lighting profiles not as diverse as the competition (could be fixed in an update) Wrist rest is inadequate, asymmetrical design does not feel good (major) Media keys and locks are blue only (minor) Arx Dock is blue (minor) Value It's one of six mechanical keyboards on the market that is this functional in terms of lighting. The Apex M800 RGB costs $200, the K95 RGB costs $180 and the BlackWidow Ultimate Chroma costs $160. Considering the amount that goes into building the switches alone, the typing feel compared to the others and the overall experience, I believe the keyboard is well worth what it costs.

It is starting to seem like i may just have bad luck with mice switches. I bought my current mouse less then a year ago and from the time I bought it until now I have had to replace the left click switch 3 times now. Now the mouse itself is not really all that cheap it is a Logitech g100s and the switches are not that cheap they are omron d2fc-f-7n. The problem isn't very noticeable for a bit, I just start thinking oh I must not have clicked the link then it starts to become obvious that the mouse will make an audible click but not be fully activated so I have to press the switch down harder to make it work. Now I maybe able to fix the problems with the switches if I took them apart and tried to find out what was really causing the problem but I thought i would replace it when it started having problems. Yet now i have had to replace the 2 switches that I bought to fix the mouse the first time and this last time i just said f it and put a non omron switch in from an old Logitech mouse. Although the switches I got on ebay could very well be counterfeit switches It seems odd that all 3 of the switched would start acting the same way if that was the case unless they were all counterfeit. So at the very least i have had one omron switch fail on me and 2 maybe fake ones fail in the same way and if that is the case they are good counterfeits as they mess up just the same lol Any one else have bad luck with mouse switches?