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This question might be duplicate although I searched this forum and other ones to find an answer but I could not find what I was looking for. Anyway, I have an i5-8500 for over 2 years now and this week the cpu overheated while i was working on some heavy, cpu-intensive project. When I looked through temprature values, temprature was sitting around 50-55°C at idle (which I'm guessing is not normal at all). Also as soon as I open some common apps like Firefox, Spotify, Steam ... temprature increases by 10-15°C and goes above 60°. I also did the stress test from CPU-Z while I was watching tempratures on AIDA64 simultaneously and in the middle of the test, tempreture values were passing 95° so I aborted the test. (Not to mention I have also reseated the cpu and its stock fan) As they say, purchasing an aftermarket fan is not really necessary for a non-k cpu. Also I don't think replacing the thermal paste is the right solution for this situation. I would like to know what do you guys think about this situation.
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So I can't afford a new CPU at all and started to notice a slight bottleneck in recent CPU intensive titles. There is also slight wear on my HDD so that doesn't help either. But determine to get that extra bit in games I set off as normal read all the articles on non-k overclocking and most of the articles just said something along the lines of either "it can't be done" or "the improvement can't be that much". And what I had read on forums seemed to confirm that. All of my tests are using the stock cooler too. So I ran userbenchmark to get a base line reading (using the Asus optimal configuration) on April 3rd 2017 and the result was nothing to write home about not the worst reading to the i5 4440 but also not the best. After playing around a little with the settings in the UEFI to see the limits of my hardware I managed to used the BCLK to overclock my CPU on the second run to be considerably faster but had to dial the BCLK back a little as it seemed to prevent any worth while ram overclocking as well as causing occasional crashes. So the same day I redid the overclock and on the 3rd run got this result. And finally today I ran the last benchmark to make sure everything was stable and it is. Below is the link to ark for the i5 4440 and a few images to show CPU speed. below is ark for the 4440 and a few images showing core speed. including one uncropped with a timestamp for now so any doubt is cast aside. http://ark.intel.com/products/75038/Intel-Core-i5-4440-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz EDIT:Fixed wrong link
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Hi guys, I'm planning on making an HTPC build on one of Intel's new Kaby Lake non-K CPUs. I was wondering what would be the best possible specs for the memory which would be compatible with my system: * CPU - Intel i7 7700 * Mobo - MSI Z270i Gaming Carbon Pro AC * CPU Cooler - Noctua L9i * SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 * HDD - (2x) WD Black 2.5" 7200RPM * GPU - MSI GTX1070 Founder's Edition * PSU - Corsair SF600 SFX Thinking of using a (2x8GB) 16GB memory configuration and I'm currently undecided with the following selection with regards to their compatibility and performance: * Corsair Vengeance LPX 2400MHz CL14 * Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666MHz CL16 Both of the configurations are pretty much at the same price point so budget won't be a problem. Was also wondering if there would be any issues in choosing memory modules with higher speeds, like a 3200Mhz one for example, since they specified in Intel's product page that the i7 7700 can only support 2133MHz and 2400Mhz, but at the same time, the MSI Z270i Carbon motherboard supports speeds up to 3800MHz. As such, what would be the maximum memory speed compatible with an i7 7700 without having to overclock the CPU (since I obviously can't with a non-K skew). Would very much appreciate any advice and suggestions. Thanks in advance
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Hello, long story short I just have overclocked my i5 6500 to 4.7ghz, it is pretty stable with one catch.. 1.43Vcore in bios and cpuz shows core voltage 1.44 and hwinfo shows between 1.432 lowest and 1.448 top. Idle temp is between 30-40C while web browsing. Temperature never went over 60C with corsair h115i in quiet mode. There was only one time for 65 C which was just a spike for a milisecond that is all, under heavy load with prime95 for two hours it did not go over 60C. Is there any risk frying to CPU with this temperature values ? Motherboard: MSI z170a gaming pro. PSU Zalman LX 600W
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looking to remove some microcode update or windows security update that pretty much locks out overclocked non-k models. not finding any good site/guides as ive perused google looking for one. i know its not gonna be click delete an win a prize. pointing me in the right direction is all i need
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I'm trying to squeeze the most performance I possibly can out of my chip, an i5-9400f, not being overclockable, by traditional means that is, I've turned up the power limit, and messed with some turbo boost settings through Intel XTU, but I saw the Reference Clock slider, and began wondering. Is this the same as base clock? What hardware will it affect? Is it safe? Should I stick to specific increments? If anyone has information on this issue, or other tips about overclocking a non-k CPU through Intel XTU, I'd be thankful to hear them. -
Hello everyone, I have a B150i pro game AC mobo and a Core i5 6600 CPU. I wanted to overclock the CPU but my mobo doesn't allow it on non-k CPU. I found out that mobos whith z170 and older bios could do the trick. Should i buy another motherboard (wich will be cheaper buy might not work) or should i buy another CPU (second hand or new, but it will still be more expensive) ? Best regards
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System Specs: Motherboard: Asrock z270 killer sli Processor i7 7700 non-k with hyper 212 evo black edition dual fan Graphics card EVGA 1070 SC black edition Ram Teamforce Delta RGB 2x8GB 3000MHz 800watt PSU M.2 500GB SSD boot drive M.2 2TB SSD main storage The problem started when I started playing GTA5 online. I was getting a max of 50fps on min graphics and max graphics. (V-sync always off) I installed GPU-Z CPU-Z HWM monitor Furmark userbenchmark and 3DMark I kept HWM cpu-z and gpu-z open on a second monitor and got back in GTA. It was reporting a 50% GPU usage and around 60% on the highest thread in the cpu. Both were far off ther power and thermal limits. Using a stress test however would put them to 100%. In task manager, it was saying GTA was using GPU 0-Copy I ran user benchmark. cpu and gpu where slightly below avertage, but RAM came out as a disaster. Quick reserch and it seemed I didn't have XMP enebled. I changed it from auto to the preset 3000MHZ xmp profile, but it wouldn't boot. After reducing (I forgot what It was 4 letters starting with F) from 800Mhz to 400Mhz, I could boot up. But the processor wouldn't get past 3.5Ghz. Back in bios I increased BLCK to max. and I had 4Ghz. Userbenchmark ran wonderfully. But the problems where only about to start. Everything windows related was lagging, taskbar, opening windows, start menu, youtube was hardly playable. So I reset everything back to normal. I then got the evga precition x1 and overclocked gpu a bit, and after changing some gta settings I got 80 FPS, but still neither the CPU or the GPU where close to being maxed out. Does anyone know what is the problem? where is the bottle neck? https://www.3dmark.com/spy/10331635 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21631908 Thanks a lot in advance to those that help.
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So my friends rig has an i5-6500 but his cpu speed is over 4Ghz (wut), is there any way to overclock skylake non-k cpu's? Here is my build so far in case my motherboard, cooler etc. doesn't allow it http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/pLZcHN .
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Hello wonderful LinusTechTips community, This is my first time building a PC. I've always wanted to build one, and the opportunity finally came. I've already bought the parts for my new PC, I'm just waiting for them to arrive. Meanwhile, I wanna do a little research to see what I got. Because I'm a student, I'm on a SUPER tight budget, so I bought these parts: CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A PSU: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB As far as the video cards goes, I haven't bought it yet, I'll be using Integrated Graphics until I have enough for RX 460. G4400 isn't that faster than my i3-3110M on my laptop when it comes to all threads combined, so what I'm curious of is, will I be able to overclock that G4400 at all? I'm asking because I'm choosing a non Z170 board. I know about that recent BIOS patch to disable non-k overclocking so I'm also curious if I'll be able to downgrade the BIOS on this board. Or does this board never supported overclock to begin with? My dad has E5300 on his PC, a LGA775 based CPU back from 2008, I was able to overclock it (stable) from 2.6 GHz to 3.12 GHz, so it's really hard to believe that skylake, built on 14 nm process, much lower than E5300 that has 45 nm, to not overclock even by a little.
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So I watched Linus' Intel CPU Buying guide, in which he recommended i5 6600K for the gamers and i7 6700K for the 'budding content creator'. But since it was such an exhaustive list, I think that including the non-k variants wasn't a bad option. The reason is that it's not just the 10-15% cost on the K variant CPU that you have to pay extra, but you also have to include the price of a good cooler, and a z170 motherboard (as opposed to a b150 motherboard. which I think is fine for people on a budget who don't want SLI, RAID, OCing), so when selecting a K variant for the advantages it offers, one also has to keep in mind the cost of other components if they want to get the full advantage of an unlocked variant. One also has to keep in mind how much they'll be able to overclock, for example, the place I live in (India), the ambient temperature goes up to 45 C, so I am sure I wouldn't have been able to overclock as much as other people. The difference between the performance of non K and K variant is minimal, as even though 6700K works at 4.0 base clock, it has turbo of 0/0/0/2 (only one core upto 4.2 ghz, no turbo at even 2 cores) as opposed to 3/4/5/6 of 6700 (all cores turbo upto 3.7ghz, one core upto 4.0 ghz). I just purchased a new PC recently, and I was aiming for i5 6600, but then upgraded to i7-6700, both non K variants. My final price of components turned out to be INR 90,000, which is around $1350 (excluding SSD, HDDs, PSUs which I had earlier). Now had I wanted to get a K variant CPU, I'd have to spend around (at least) $210 more for being able to OC properly, and even then, I'd have been able to get around 5-10% of better performance in benchmarks, and almost minimal real world performance gain. $210 is a significant amount which can be used to upgrade other components (I went from GTX 1060 to 1070), you can even save that amount and upgrade your PC earlier in future. And I am not even going to add the 40% extra TDP of the K CPU, but that could have an impact in the long run. Now Linus did mention better resale value, but I think it depends a lot on your situation and whether you're able to get a good deal or not. $30-$50 USD may not be much for you, but keeping in mind the budget conscious, I think it'd be a better idea to save that amount if it's not going to give a justifiable benefit. So my point is: 1. Getting a K variant only increases around 15% on the cost of CPU, but to utilize that amount, you'd have to spend around $200 more. 2. A Non K variant can be a better option for majority of people. 3. In an exhaustive CPU buying guide, Non-K CPUs should also have a place. I hope I have been correct in my analysis.
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So, I am currently planning on upgrading my system. I started a thread yesterday evening regarding my CPU and it boils down to an i7-6700. Non-K. I want it to be as silent as possible and I don't need the extra power from an overclock. I do gaming, streaming and video editing. I have ordered an GTX 1080 but I'm still waiting on delivery. I am currently using an i7-2600k which was overclocked to 4.2Ghz for 3+ something years but I dialed it back (3.4Ghz Stock) and didn't really notice any difference in performance (I did, but it wasn't an issue for me), granted it was only a mild overclock. my 2600k lasts for 5 years now and I expect the same from the 6700. So, here's my questions. I was looking into motherboards and RAM and I would prefer to get higher than 2133Mhz clocked RAM. Is that possible? I think I need a Z170 Chipset for RAM oc? These are usually the only ones that list higher ram frequencies. Is that even RAM OC? I also want to have a m.2 if possible, in not, then the ability to add one later by a pci-e card. Also, need advice on what mainboard. Budget-goal for the whole thing (CPU + Motherboard + RAM) was aimed around 550€ i7-6700 is 300€ so theres roughly 250 left for at least 16Gbyte of RAM and a board. ATX, mATX is fine. Matching colors to an orange/red-ish theme would be awesome. Black is perfecly fine, though. Thanks for the held. Edit: Included a quick and dirty photo from my current build for reference Edit 2: Country is germany.
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Asrock has released 2 of their hyper-oc series motherboards, allowing overclocking on non-k Intel skylake processors. Unlike their previous method, which also did the same thing, but was short lived as words got out, Intel immediately order Asrock and other board makers to release a bios update to disable this feature. For those that still want the oc feature, still can, just by not updating to the latest bios. But sometimes bios update can add certain fixes or improvements. Enter Asrock's hyper-oc series motherboards. So far the only 2 available now are the, Fatal1ty H170 Performance/Hyper and Fatal1ty B150 Gaming K4/Hyper. Both runs on socket 1151 for Intel Skylake processors, 64gb of ddr4 2133 max, 2 x16 slots for cfx at x16 by x4, 6x sata ports, M.2, Sata Express (H170 only) and 10 phase power. What's set these boards apart from their other non Z170 models, is the addition of a external clock generator, allowing overclocking features for non-K Skylake cpus. even when your bios is up to date. Not sure how long they will last on the market, but if all goes well, Asrock might release others boards that's part of their Hyper-OC series. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asrock-hyper-oc-motherboards-available,32165.html http://www.asrock.com/microsite/hyper/
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Greetings, There's been a lot of talk about the ability to overclock all of Intel's new Skylake CPUs - including non-k models - with base-clock overclocking on all compatible motherboards after a BIOS update (notably, Z170 chipset motherboards from major manufacturers or any LGA 1151 motherboard from Super Micro. I was wondering if you guys at LMG (@LinusTech and @Slick in particular) intended to cover this in a future video. I could be wrong, but it's a development that could mean a lot for the PC community that LMG addresses in most of their videos- a return to former Intel CPU generations where a little tweaking could mean far greater performance at lower prices. Regards, Aereldor.
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BCLK overclocking might finally become a reality after not too long ago, a overclocker going by the initials DJ managed to bclk a non-K Skylake processor via the bclk, on a SuperMicro C7H170-M motherboard. This motherboard along with a Skylake Core i3 is currently being sent to Anandtech to let them check it for independent verification, since DJ is actually associated with SuperMicro. Soon after words got out that SuperMicro can achieve overclocking via BCLK, other motherboard makers, followed and claimed they can do it too. With Asrock, Asus, both showing off their bclk results. Asrock with their Z170 Extreme 7+ achieveing a 135bclk overclock with air cooling. And Asus with their Maximus VIII Gene with a 152.8 bclk overclock achieved by elmor, who has ties with Asus. BCLK overclocking might come soon via a motherboard bios update. http://anandtech.com/show/9848/bclk-overclocking-intels-non-k-skylake-processors-coming-soon
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So, I bought a core i5 6600T. as far as raw overclocking goes, it is one of the best I have used. I am currently sitting at a 172 BCLK, going from 2.7ghz to 4.5ghz on the stock Intel cooler, in an Azza Z ITX case. It's voltage tolerance is superb, and there is minimal voltage leaking. However, i have a few problems I have noticed, and I would like to know if anyone else with locked Skylake SKU's are noticing the same thing. First of all, AVX gets disabled the moment I touch BCLK. Even if i go from AUTO to manually dialed in 100, it turns off. Anyone with an MSI Z170 board able to confirm if it happens to them too, or is this an Asrock exclusive pitfall? Secondly, my cache speed tanks the moment it ouch BCLK. If i leave it at auto, i get 820GB/s L1 cache. If i dial 101, it tanks to 650 GB/s. If i go 110, it goes all the way down to 180GB/s. Going to 150 brings it back up to 250 GB/s, but it is still a huge deficit compared to stock. Impact on gaming performance is minimal, but i dislike the damage it does to my bench scores. I am using an AsRock Z170 Gaming ITX/AC Fata1ity board if it helps.
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Hello guys, I have my 2600 3.4 Ghz non K version so overclocking is locked for me. But, it is possible to change multiplier (CPU ratio) from default 34x to x43. It boosts my CPU to 4.2 GHz. seem to work great and i get much better scores on 3dMark. Also, I did install Intel me driver witch allowed me to change Base clock frequency My question is if its safe to change my base clock from 100 MHz to 103 MHz. (or even for smaller amount, maybe too 101 or 102). I heard that its not safe to touch it at all, but you can do it if you overclock for very little amount like i did. So, if i change it to 103 MHz i would get my non K CPU running at 4.400 GHz witch is pretty good for non K model. Also, i would like your opinions about this, is it a great idea or not? Thanks for attention.
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According to benchlife.info, Intel seems to have allow for overclocking on non Skylake K cpus. Previous cpus, only the unlock K models, supports overclocking. Lock cpus oc some bit, through BCLK, but users aren't able to set a very high BCLK value. This time, looks like Intel has allow for BCLK overclocking on those locked Skylake cpus as from the cpu-z screenshot, we can see the FSB set to 133MHz! Now if lock cpus can oc through bclk, is there any point of grabbing a unlock cpu? source translate
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So guys I've just bought an i7 2600 + 4GB of memory on the cheap to upgrade my aging core 2 duo system. It's currently running on an H61 M-ATX board which I intend to use later for a prodigy build. The H61 board doesn't allow any sort of overclocking, no partially unlocked multiplier is present and the base clock is completely locked. So I'm looking at getting an M-ATX board, an M-ITX MSI or Asus z77 to be able to up the frequency by 4 bins, overclock the BCLK slightly & then enable MSI's Enhanced Turbo or Asus's Multicore Enhancement which would hopefully allow me to take the 2600 to 4.2Ghz+ on all cores. My question basically is do these turbo features even support Sandy Bridge LGA 1155 chips ? or do they require Ivy Bridge ? I know for a fact that these exact same features are enabled on X79 and work on Sandy-E.
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Relevant System Spec's: i7 3770 CPU Thermal Take Water 2.0, Single Radiator, Push-Pull (Noctua NF-F12 PWM) Z77 Asrock Fatality Performance Series Motherboard Corsair Low Profile 16GB 1600mhz Ram (4x4) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi there. I was wondering if there was anything i could do to my 3700 to increase performance. I was able to change the Core Multipliers in the Bio's to: Core 1: 43 Core 2: 43 Core 3: 42 Core 4: 41 Without changing voltage from Auto my machine remains stable, so i just left it there. Should i turn off turbo boost or just leave it on? Should i mess with the voltage? Last thing to note was when in a game (BF4) as i was looking through CPU-Z (ID) my clock was staying at 4.1ghz? Shouldn't if have been at 4.3ghz? Help would be appreciated Cheers Rogu3free