Search the Community

I would like anyone to help me understand a couple of things? I am playing with AFMF and FSR 3.0 Frame Generation. There are a few things I don't quite get in relation to Frame Generation and (input) latency. I use a fixed rate 60hz monitor. For example, my first question, in the picture below, what "Frame Gen Lag" means exactly? does it mean the Frame Generation is lagging 26ms when creating the new AI frame to inject? or it is telling me the added input lag? (Also, I see stuttering of 36% which seems a bit high but I have 118 FPS on a 60Hz so sounds like plenty enough even if there was a minor drop of 25FPS I am still past 60FPS; I understand it might drop from 200FPS to 150FPS at times but does the micro-stuttering percentage matter at all if you are still past 60FPS for my 60hz monitor?). I can understand how VSYNC might increase input latency and I understand that injecting a frame comes with an added latency but it still confuses me quite a lot, I don't think 45FPS native to 60FPS generated frames should make a difference in input latency; let's say I play COD MWIII with FSR 3.0 and Frame Generation on my 60Hz monitor and I get 110 native FPS on Quality... in theory, the more FPS even beyond my monitor's refresh rate helps to decrease input latency but now I have introduced Frame Generation which adds some latency (reduced thanks to Anti-Lag) and I managed to double my FPS: from 110 to 220 FPS, am I reducing my input latency or in reality I am making things worse with Frame Generation given I was already past 60FPS in my fixed refresh rate monitor? I have noted "FRAME GEN LAG" in the image above shows "N/A" when using FSR 3.0 Frame Generation, which is not the case when you use AFMF from the AMD Adrenaline driver. Why is that? I am guessing it is related to the fact that AFMF only reports real FPS via the performance overlay and not the in-game counter (whereas FSR3.0 Frame Generation reflects the added frames in the FPS counter correctly). With regards to input latency I have various scenarios. Let's assume my fixed rate monitor at 60Hz AMD Anti-Lag is on, and FSR 3 on Quality gives me 120FPS on a game, say Call Of Duty but could be any other game where latency matters. Using Frame Generation (AFMF). How is the effect on input latency on each scenario, what is the benefit if any or why it could have an undesired impact in smoothness or input lag. Scenario 1 - vsync off - enhanced sync on I enable FSR3 with Frame Generation ON, no frame limit. Then I double my FPS from 120 to 240. Scenario 2 - vsync off - enhanced sync on I enable FSR3 with Frame Generation ON. I set an in-game frame limit to 60, doubling my FPS to just 120. Scenario 3 - vsync off - enhanced sync on I enable FSR3 with Frame Generation ON. I set an in-game frame limit to 30, matching my 60 FPS to my monitor's refresh rate at 60Hz. Scenario 4 - vsync on I enable FSR3 with Frame Generation ON. No frame limit. I get more than 100 FPS. In these scenarios: enabling Frame Generation would make input latency to increase or decrease? Thanks in advance, any advice or comment to clarify this will be welcome.

I am building a new PC and I opted for an Asus B650 Proart Creator + Ryzen 7 7800X3D + 2x16 G.Skill Flare X5 DDDR5-6000 as main components. The board is however not recognizing the memory sticks. The Asus B650 lists the Flare X5s on the QVL list, however with a different latency value (The list has CL36, I accidentally bought CL32). Do latency values affect the compatability between RAM, board and CPU that much ? And does this mean I have to order the CL36 version now? Or is there a workaround?

About 3 days ago, I have been suffering from high DPC latency. I didn't do anything new on the computer, it just started out of nowhere. I've been monitoring with LatencyMon and some drivers that are causing this are: NDIS.sys, ACPI.sys, TCPIP.sys, CLASSPNP.sys, HDAudBus.sys, Wdf01000.sys, Dxgkrnl.sys ( it's not all of them, but they do show up ). Some things I've already tried: reinstalled drivers ( network, audio, gpu ..) clean install of windows, BIOS update .. i tried everything, really. I noticed that the DPC latency usually increases A LOT after 1 hour or so when i'm playing and then it starts to make noise and it is impossible to play. Windows, GPU, Network, Audio, Chipset.. Everything is up-to-date If anyone has any clue what could it be, please help me.

In many of the games I play and on any system I try it on(wired and wireless connections), I get random lag spikes over 999ms. I've run packet loss tests and usually find 0% losses. I have also tested a spare router and the same issue occurred. Any idea what this problem is/ how I would diagnose if it's on my end or the ISP's?

I have an astro c40 which I use regularly to play fortnite. I play on a laptop hooked up to a 240hz monitor. When moving my right stick it feels slow and sluggish. My grip is affected and I can barely hold the controller properly. I also have to giggle my stick with excessive force just to make quick movements in-game. An example is editing a build piece quickly. It makes my editing and aim inconsistent. At times, I leave my game for a while, then I come back, it feels a lot more responsive for a couple of minutes (less than 5 minutes) then returns. My Specs Laptop Name : Asus ROG Zephyrus M15 GU502LW-BI7N6 CPU: Intel Core i7-10750H (Comet Lake-H) GPU : Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Max Q RAM : 16GB DDR4 Motherboard/Laptop Model: Zephyrus GU502LW-BI7N6 Storage: 1TB SSD Refresh rate: 240hz Operating System: Windows 10 (Ghost Spectre Superlite) External Monitor : Acer Nitro XV1 Series-XV271 (240hz monitor) Controller : Astro C40 Tournament Ready Pro Controller Reinstalled Windows (both base Windows and Ghost Spectre) Reinstalled Graphics drivers (Used DDU for uninstalling) Changed in -game sensitivity and deadzone. As well as adjusting the stick curve through the astro configuration application. used the appropriate Nvidia control panel settings Switched to LAN Used Bitsum Highest Performance Power Plan for less latency Done all performance and gaming related 'tweaks' (registry tweaks, Using process lasso, etc)

So I have a Samsung Odyssey G50 165hz 1440p, sometimes the games feel smooth and fast, but sometimes it feels like theres some latency, I checked my render latency its really good, then I tried some settings on the monitor, non of them had an impact on the high latency feeling, then I turned on the G-sync and it made a huge difference I could easily see it, but then when I turned it off, it felt as fast as its turned on, then I remembered that I noticed this before, so why is that, that after a while I have to enable or disable G-sync for my monitor to have low latency, is it a bug or something? The game I tested it was CS2 and I remembered that when I first noticed it was CS:GO aswell but I think its only because its a fast paced game and that the only FPS game I play, in story games the latency doesnt bothered me enough for me to notice I guess

Which RAM is better ( both work on my MB with XMP profiles as specified, AM5 platform): Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5-6400 2x48GB, CL32-40-40-84, 1.40V Gskill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-6400 2x48GB, CL32-39-39-102, 1.35V Differences: A) 1.4V vs 1.35V: Does the higher voltage have a relevant disadvantage (power consumption, lifespan, heat development)? B) Timings/Latency: CL32-40-40-84 vs CL32-39-39-102 --> Which overall values are better, Corsair or Gskill? C) The DIE manufacturers: Gskill apparently has a Hynix A DIE. I don't know about Corsair. Does the DIE manufacturer matter if I don't overclock the RAM or change the timings/latency?

My wifi is kinda bad, and I have to restart my router all the time. For example, my ping to 8.8.8.8 becomes higher than 300 ms sometimes. Also, it never gets higher than 70 Mbps. Help, how can I make wifi faster, even my school wifi is better. EDIT: I am not connected using Ethernet, because my router is in an awkward position.

TL;DR Ping to 92.223.86.86, 10 km away at ~170 ms ping. Acquaintance nearby with different ISP has 9 ms. Is the issue my ISP, Wifi,...? Background I am playing an online game where the server, to my knowledge, is physically located in the same city (~10km=6miles). I have cabled internet with WiFi and have a ping of around 170-200 ms with severe in-game spikes. At my friend's house, under a different ISP, the ping is 9 ms without any spikes. I need help in identifying whether the issue is from my ISP, my WiFi set-up, or the game server itself. That my friend has a lower ping seems to indicate that it is my ISP. If so, I need to contact my ISP and tell them what is wrong. The game has several local servers with similar results. The game runs on my Android Phone using 5.2GHz WiFi band. PingPlotter is running in my older laptop using the 2.4GHz WiFi band. Although similar ping test on my phone yields the same 170-200ms ping. Traceroute from me to 92.223.86.86 using (PingPlotter in Windows) Traceroute from 3rd party Singapore server to 92.223.86.86 (https://www.ip2location.com/free/traceroute) Geoping from 3rd party Singapore server to 92.223.86.86 [3ms] (GeoPing in Android PingTools) CABLED sample as requested: A new WiFi sample taken for comparison: We can see that the cabled one still has 170 ms ping to destination. However, the amount of package loss is greatly reduced ( PL% columns and the red bars) The WiFi sample taken previously and the new one differ in that the package loss for Hop 6 is greatly reduced. Graph using 3rd party server and VPN VPN (SG): 84.17.39.173 3rdParty (SG): 185.128.24.225 Target (SG): 92.223.86.86 I suppose pinging from my VPN means that it first goes from ME to VPN. ME <-> VPN traceroute seems to hop via Hong-Kong (SG<-> HK <-> SG). Post was published earlier here https://superuser.com/questions/1805724/identify-latency-problems-to-gaming-server

Hello everyone, I have the armaggeddon MKO-13R Enterprise (https://www.armaggeddon.com.my/gamingkeyboards/armaggeddon-mko-13r) keyboard and it seems to me that the latency of it is very high. Anyone else have this keyboard? Any way to test it? Thanks!

I have Intel 660P NVMe 1TB When i download something or update something rather the average response time in ms varies from 50ms all the way up to 2000ms or literally 2s at that point. Why is such a big latency? Is it because disk cannot spread the information on all the chips and is limited to lets say 1 chip left if you are like 80-90% full? and as soon as it gets to like 30-50ms the disk active time gets to 100% which makes my pc unusable which makes it lag really hard. I've never experienced something like that when i bought the disk in 2019. The disk is always at around 60%-80% capacity. It's kind of crazy for something like that to happen to an NVMe, the last time i was experiencing that was with hard drives lmao. quite sad. Now I know that it is ideal to have more space on the disk itself, but i truly doubt the capacity is the true and only culprit here, is it perhaps TBW? and how it compares to more than just one 1TB disk? If you have like 2TB-4TB at the same % of occupation it should still work faster, right?

Hi! I have been in a bit of a predicament where I can only use my PC on a weekend because reasons but during the week when I want to play I can’t use it because it not there, obviously I could move it back and forth but it’s a huge pain so any suggestions? I’m currently using a really old laptop(12 years) during the week and GeForce now witch has it’s obvious issues.

Recently I replaced the Samsung M378B5273DH0-CK0 DDR3 1600MHz C11 2x4GB in my Dell OptiPlex 7010 with Corsair CMV16GX3M2A1600C11 ValueSelect DDR3 1600MHz C11 2x8GB. I have lost FPS in games like World of Tanks (1440p 110 average fell to 90 average, and drops as low as 60 sometimes which didn't happen with the Samsung RAM.) A little bit stuttery when flicking the camera around in other games. Both CPU & GPU rarely go above 50% utilisation. I ran some tests and RAM latency has increased from 70 ns with the old setup to 85.3 ns. Could this be the reason why average FPS has fallen, varies more, and the image occasionally gets tearing? Running all four of those sticks together for a total of 24GB the latency has gone up to 87.5 ns. Is this due to increased load on the memory controller? My second question is can I run C10 or even C9 RAM on this Dell motherboard (0KRC95) that does not support (afaik) manual memory overclocking nor XMP. I was about to buy some (used) Corsair Vengeance Pro 9-9-9-24 and then I read that to achieve the labled timing, it relies on XMP - otherwise it will run at 1333MHz. Is this true? If possible, I would like to find some low latency RAM that does not need overclocking out the box. I want to run ram at the highest speed supported by this dell motherboard - 1600MHz. (please note: before anyone suggests "just buy a new PC", please don't. I appreciate its already had it's tenth birthday & comes with many limitations, but this system still has some use left in it & will be capable for a few more years) System Info Dell OptiPlex 7010 Intel Core i7-3770 3.4 GHz Samsung 870 QVO 1TB boot drive Zotac RTX 2070 Super Mini Windows 10 Pro 22H2 64-bit

Hello. I'm wondering if anyone can help me with with any troubleshooting on latency from my home network. I've been noticing a small lag spike when watching videos on my pc and later when I was playing games with a buddy, I was getting a more noticeable effect. Playing Halo MCC and Infinite specifically I would see a message saying "packet loss" and when we would try and load a new level on MCC he would desync and then no longer be on the same game as me but on the same level. Just a few moments ago I decided to do some troubleshooting and well... Problem; I have bad packet loss while keeping very good ping. Troubleshooting Done So Far; As my system was newly built I checked my drivers by installing Armoury Crate and let them update it to keep it hassle free. No improvements when running ping tests. My router was using PFSense, checking and applying the update from 2.6.0 to 2.7.0. No improvement. Ran ping tests from PC to Router, no issue. PC to Google and Router to Google, same issue. Image Below. Is there anything else on my side to help find out, if not fix, the issue or do I need to talk to my ISP to go any further? Thank You in advance.

i cant find any good ones to show people who want to know this kind of stuff

My old GPU kicked the bucket so I just upgraded to a much more modern one. My CPU is a little behind it, so I'm planning on replacing that soon-ish. Anyway, I installed the new GPU and its drivers via GeForce Experience, and my ping in games was normal except for the occasional lag spikes. The lag spikes were weird, so I looked online for support and one solution was to use DDU to do a clean install of the GPU drivers, so I did that, but now I'm getting consistant high ping/latency, not just the occasional spike. I followed all the network troubleshooting tips I could find (my internet is completely fine in every other aspect) and made sure all my drivers were up to date (including the BIOS) but nothing has fixed this. I thought it might be CPU/GPU bottlenecking with the GPU being too advanced, but I was told by someone this isn't the case and it's just a network issue? I don't know, I'm getting mixed messages from the internet and now I'm lost. CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x GPU: RTX 4070

I've been playing league of legends on linux for a bit, during that my ping is, depending the time of day, is rock solid 30-45. However about once a game, the following happens. Every character on the screen freezes for about 5-10 seconds, the game doesn't even display what my latency is. It feels like every single one of the packets are lost, the is tries to sync back my ping goes down from 300 in 5-10 seconds and repeat for 0,5 ti 3 minutes. It is mildly annoying but manageable. I switched to play league on linux because on windows my ping is around 50-70, and about every 1-5 minutes it jumps up to 100-200. It is barely palyable and very frustrating. It needs to be said that I play on wifi and the router is about 2 x 5 cm concrete wall away from me and for reasons I'm too lazy to write down, I can't do anything to change the situation. With that said there was a point in time where with the same route on a slower internet speed form the same isp I had a solid 50-60 ping on windows. So my question would be, what may be the cause for this behaviour and is there anything I can do (either on windows or linux)? Ps.: I'm on manjaro 21.2.0 Again I can't switch to ethernet, change router position or get a network extender / repeater / mesh device and such.

I'm getting pretty desperate - couple weeks ago I reinstalled my laptop and when I opened my DAW (music making program), I was met with insane clicks and pops although it was completely fine prior at the same settings. I troubleshooted for more than a week straight and could not find a fix, so I decided to get a new replacement... which has the same problem. I don't know what to do, I've everything with the old laptop, nothing helped - reinstalled drivers, bios updates, driver updates, disabling devices, changing affinities for everything, many more things, but it didn't get better. I know it must be some driver, I tried completely uninstalling nvidia ones, didn't help on the old laptop. LatencyMon said it was wdf01000.sys, dxgkrnl.sys and nvlddmkm.sys that spiked, but on the new laptop it's nvlddmkm.sys, but it's not even spiking that bad 0.46ms, but the audio is still crippled. LatencyMon on the new one: I'm at my wits end and panicking, if the same thing is happening on a new laptop, it should mean some of you are experiencing something like this. The old laptop was Asus Strix G15 (it think 2020 mode) with 2070/intel combo and the new one is the last G15 with amd/3070ti. The old one had no issue like this until I reinstalled it. I'm not sure what to do, should I return the new laptop? Or some of yall have found a solution and can help me? This is super devastating. Is this nvidia problem? Should I try other brand than ASUS? Is there a fix that won't take weeks to pinpoint?

TLDR at the bottom I’ll spare you most of the details. Reddit has been very little to zero help. Google is sparse but there is enough info there to get me started. There is nothing all in one place. I play rocket league and there is a “myth” about something called “heavy car bug”. It’s basically just describing input lag. It’s 100% real and I can pretty much reproduce it if I want. There is a lot to speak about but as I said, I’ll spare you details. There is a YT channel by a Reddit user called halfwaydead. He is a really great hardworking guy who has made it his mission to delved into the science of the game. He recently put out a video related to controllers and which ones have the lowest input lag etc. he de-listed the video after a week though because there were some anomalies with the DS4 controller that he couldn’t figure out. He then did some of the tests on his friends PC, and the testing was fine. They figured out that certain USB ports on Ryzen motherboards go straight to the CPU, but other ones are routed through some mobo chipset controller. And it adds lag and problems. MSI actually showed up in his comments section and acknowledged it and said they are working on it. Legends for doing so. I have an ASRock X470 board and cannot find out what ports of mine might be messed up like his. But, my controller actually feels good where I have it now so I’m not messing with it. all this has lead me to random tech sites, and Reddit. Reading things about HPET, system timers, Bus sharing, latencymon, Nvidia driver conflicts blah blah blah. It’sa list as long as.... you know. The main thing I’ve seen is this. Ryzen CPUs handle USB differently than Intel CPUs? And that Ryzen CPU mixed with Nvidia GPU is a bad combination? I don’t know enough about computers to know if that’s correct, it’s just what I’ve seen. It’s why I’m here. Apparently some music producers are aware of Ryzen latency problems? Basically I get inconsistent performance from the game. Some days IT FEELS SO DAMN GOOD!!!!! Teammates compliment me, want to party up with me, we go on big win streaks, I win the ball all the time and score outlandish angle shots etc. Other days it’s like my car has chains on it. Slow, can’t move fluid, teammates hate me etc. there is a controller overclock program some of us use, I’m sure you guys know about it. Well sometimes my controller will accept the OC perfectly fine, but other says it won’t. Some USB ports work one day, but then they won’t work the next day. there is a huge ghost in my machine and no one believes me, very few. They all just say “Get gud”. I have 2k+ hours in the game. I know what it feels like between good and bad boot ups. On bad boots, I cannot win. Using the same strategies I would use on winning days. I just can’t get to the ball fast enough, can’t turn tight enough, can’t kill the opponent when I normally would etc. Ive tried the controller WITHOUT Ds4 windows software and it’s dog water. DS4 windows makes everything a lot better. But there’s still inconsistencies somewhere. Ive tried so many things I won’t list more. Tons of stuff. I just haven’t played on an Intel CPU lmao. Also have not tried Xbox controller. Only DS4. Some one said “I think Microsoft sends out updates that fuck up any non Xbox controllers from time to time!” Lol, that’s a bit too far to me. But I get their feelings. TLDR: Does Ryzen really have an input lag/USB/Nvidia/Ds4 problem ?

Hey, thanks for taking the time to read my thread. My friend and I have been plagued with connection issues in Rocket League recently. We both live in different states in the US. We both pay for fast internet. We both have tried playing with lots of people on our internet and alone. I have tried going to different locations entirely with good internet at both the other places as well. We both have PC's that lie well over the recommended specs for RL. We both have gone through every solution listed on the Rocket League website (https://support.rocketleague.com/hc/en-us/articles/360054169594-Connection-Troubleshooting-on-PC) including port forwarding in my case. The lag manifests completely differently for both of us. My lag: I get a complete freeze of my game for a few seconds before coming back in a completely different location with my ping having skyrocketed. This happens once every few games. My other lag is an inconsistent latency between my machine and the server. Boost pickups are slow and ball touches are jittery, but my ping remains stable at 40-60 depending on the server. My friend's lag: He gets random ping spikes well into the hundreds for a minute or so almost every single game. These issues are game-breaking for us. We are currently semi professional players hoping to break into the scene in a few short months. This lag is stunting our growth significantly so we need to put a lid on it stat. Any suggestions are appreciated. I would be happy to answer any questions anyone has. I am generally pretty tech savvy. I fix issues like this for myself and my friends on a regular basis but this one has me stumped.

In every game, i feel like there is a bit of an input lag and a DELAY when I let go of the key. What I mean by that is let's say I Press the w key and let it go. the character goes front but still keeps going front when I literally let go of the key a second ago. I have a razer cynosa v2. my pc has other problems like underperforming even though I changed my mobo, gpu, cpu with new ones couple times. I did another thread about this. people said it could be my ssd. Well I don't have another choice anyway. so keep in mind that I might have a broken ssd too. can ssd cause input lag in devices? I would be happy if someone helped me. thanks

so basically what i am doing is using a raspberry pi with the steam link app to put games onto my tv. Because my internet speed is not even close to be doing steam link wirelessly I have connected an ethernet cable to the raspberry pi directly from my computer. And I figured that since it is connected directly with a cat5e cable that there would be next to 0 compression and next to 0 latency but there is so much playing racing games is nearly impossible I can send photos if you want me to of my setup btw.

Hi, I seem to get Audio Crackling and Popping issues, after searching the web for a bit I noticed that this issue is generally tied to DPC Latency so I used LatencyMon to check. In my case it doesn't seem to happen immediately after start up generally around an hour of usage and I can easily notice it when video and audio during playback is desynced (and it happens gradually and usually ends with audio being 3ish seconds ahead of video) then the audio crackling begins. I have tried a variety of solution including; upgrade/downgrading bios, updating/uninstalling/downgrading drivers for audio and GPU, disable HPET and dynamicTick, uninstalling updates or downloading the newest updates, etc. The usual steps to resolve issues. Unfortunately, nothing seems to help me in that regard. It seems to be tied to my GPU with nvlddmkrn.sys showing the highest execution. When I completely uninstall my GPU drivers and use Microsoft basic display adapter the latency seems fine, but I'm not sure how to isolate what about the GPU drivers is causing it, or if it's a problem with the way NVidia's drivers just are. Hopefully someone here can provide some suggestion on steps I should take to help resolve this issue. Some Other Info: I have included CPUZ and GPUZ screenshots. My BIOS version is the latest available 1.65 Windows 10 Education 20H2 OS Build 19042.906

Going from playing on the built in display (60hz 1ms IPS) to an external monitor for the 4th time I have again noticed a decrease in input latency, in both gaming and regular tasks. And this happened on both "gaming" monitors (75/144hz 1ms) and plain old 60hz 5ms ones. The weird part is my laptop's HDMI is not connected directly to the dedicated GPU but instead goes through the iGPU as well (the 1050 is listed as a render only instead of full display device) and so I'm not bypassing anything and there doesn't seem to be any other performance difference. My questions are: Has anyone had this happen to them? What causes input delay on the built in display and can anything be done to fix it?

So comparing cost difference vs performance, which would be best? We're talking general purpose + gaming. (12700K, 3080Ti) My options are (all DDR5): $425 5200Mhz CL38 (ADATA XPG Lancer) $495 6000Mhz CL40 (ADATA XPG Lancer) $550 5600Mhz CL36 (GSkill TridentZ5) $595 6000Mhz CL36 (GSkill TridentZ5) It will be one of those, not here to be lectured on DDR5 vs DDR4 cost & effect now. EDIT: Went with white G.Skill's Trident Z5 RGB 6000MHz CL36 (with a small discount) for $580