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i'm assuming that everyone's heard of the new intel lineup. i'm going to be completely flat out and say the entire series is extremely stupid for almost any argument. this is going to be a long post with a lot of reading. if you are afraid of words, you've been warned. i'm going to link oc3d's graph here to help show my point. source: https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_officially_announce_their_new_skylake-x_and_kaby_lake-x_series_processors/1 Archtecture Process Cores/Threads Base Boost 2.0 Boost 3.0 PCIe lanes TDP Price Core i9 7980XE Skylake-X 14nm+ 18/36 ? ? ? ? 165W? $1999 Core i9 7960X 16/32 ? ? ? ? 165W? $1699 Core i9 7940X 14/28 ? ? ? ? 165W? $1399 Core i9 7920X 12/24 ? ? ? ? 165W? $1199 Core i9 7900X 10/20 3.3GHz 4.3GHz 4.5GHz 44 140W $999 Core i7 7820X 8/16 3.6GHz 4.3GHz 4.5GHz 28 140W $599 Core i7 7800X 6/12 3.5GHz 4.0GHz N/A 28 140W $389 Core i7 7740X Kaby Lake-X 4/8 4.3GHz 4.5GHz N/A 16 112W $339 Core i5 7640X 4/4 4.0GHz 4.2GHz N/A 16 112W $242 at the bottom end, there's the i5 7640x. quad core with no hyperthreading. almost nothing at all has changed with its pricing over the 7600k, that is a seriously fatal flaw since the ryzen 5 1600 is a 6 core with hyperthreading for $20 less. other than raw clock speed and consuming a crazy amount of power, what does it gain? its on the fancy new socket, yet has no additional pcie lanes. unless intel is planning to go to a one socket system for every chip form now on, this bottom tier chip makes absolutely no sense. the i7 7740x is a very similar story. same price bracket as before. no extra pcie lanes. very slight bump in clock speed. you can pick up an 8 core 16 thread for $20 less again. if the 2066 socket is supposed to be the workstation/enthusiast gaming hybrid type, so far the bottom tier chips are extremely underwhelming considering the new amd chips. the i7 7800x is, as far as i can see, a faster 6800k. this is one of the more impressive clock speed bumps here, and it is actually lower in price compared to the 6800k. this is one of the least worst chips of the lineup. its only downside is the price still. even though its cheaper than last gens counterpart, we still have to keep in mind that the ryzen 1700 is only $315, and features more cores and consumes less power. the i7 7820x looks good on paper. faster speeds than the 7800x, and with 2 more cores. but then the price of $600 comes and shoots itself in the foot. if they could've had it at $500, it would've been an incredibly good choice. but instead theres a $100 gap between the 7800 and 7820 for just 2 more cores. once again i bring up amd ryzen. the 1500x is quad core and cost $190. the 1700 is $315. that's only $125 for 4 more cores and 8 more threads! all this new intel series is proving is just how good price/perf is on amd ryzen. the first of the i9s, the 7900x, seems to mostly be a 6950x rebadge using the price it should've originally had at $1000 instead of the ludicrous $1700. I still feel like its a solid $300 too expensive, because you have to consider the 1800x. 8 cores for $500. 10 cores for $700. seems fair enough to me. but no. overpriced intel is overpriced. it seems more overpriced if you consider that you can fairly easily overclock a 1700 or 1700x to perform at or above 1800x speeds. the rest of the lineup might as well be xeons they're so overpriced. only the foolish should look at these, unless they really must HAVE to have an intel badge on their cases and hate their money. ryzen threadrippers details havent been annoucned yet as of this post, but if their current pricing lineup is going to be anything like the ryzen 3/5/7 series, then i wouldn't expect their top end 16c/32t chip to cost more than $1300. in fact i suspect them to be even less than that. intel has lost their mind this generation. i know that the price of the new boards and socket come into play as well when it comes to price/perf. but if i look at that, then the story only gets worse for intel. considering you can pick up and overclocking b350 motherbard for around $80, and an 8 core ryzen chip for $315, you can have a $400 combo that will be much better value than any of the intel combinations. i'm sure that x299 boards will not be cheap. before you could argue that intel had a few things going for it like thunderbolt tech, but now that thats open source, i see very little reason to even consider the new intel lineup. it is true that we have no idea how these new chips will overclock. but unless they can be like the legendary sandy bridge lineup and hit 5ghz without getting stupidly hot (looking at you 7700k), i see no reason to look at team blue until they can fix their prices. even so, given intels bad history with high tdp cpus not overclocking that great, i dont think many of these chips will live up to that. i know one of the first thoughts going through your minds might go something like 'wow such an amd fanboy/intel hater', but i'm not. i've run intel for many years starting at second gen, and until recently was running a 5820k system. but with amd back in the game with unbeatable price/perf, i went team red for the first time since the old phenom II days. those are my thoughts. not sure how many people will see this, or how many will even give their own opinions. but i wanted to get my views out there anyways. thanks for reading so far. you deserve an internet cookie. you already have the attention span grater than 99% of the internet.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11463/intel-announces-kaby-lakex-processors-highend-desktop-getting-the-latest-microarchitecture If you're looking for Skylake-X monsters read my other thread Leaks were spot on for these Kabylak-X parts. Higher TDP, higher clocks, higher price, X299. Compared to the current flagship i7 and i5 processors on LGA 1151 these parts have no iGPU and more power delivery through more pins and increased vias, this means +100mhz on the i7 for 21W. They also have support for higher speed memory 2666mhz vs 2400mhz. Who's this for? 1) People who want the most single thread performance 2) People who want to buy into X299 now and upgrade later 3) People who want overclocking records (read: Intel's marketing department) Differences between Kabylake-S, Kabylake-X and Skylake-X Overclocking-ness So looks to be a better overclocker than the current consumer Kabylake parts. They are using TIM rather than solder, kinda sends mixed signals for parts where overclocking seems to be a main focus.

When Intel has launched their X299 platform, it had received a warm welcome of head scratching and face palms. The platform, was the very first to mix mainstream processors along with the enthusiast. On the mainstream, there was the core i5 7640X and Core i7 7740x. Both of them are exactly the same as their socket 1151 skus, with a few minor difference like clock speed and TDP, but the number of cpu lanes is still stuck at 16 PCIe 3.0 and dual channel ram. This lead to having a board, where half of the ram slots not working, and forced some of the features on the board to disabled, due to lack of cpu lanes. Because of this, Gigabyte and MSI have come with a board that's specifically made only for Kabylake-X. Gigabyte revealed their ATX Aorus, while MSI went with a more simple microATX. The board looks just like the mainstream 1151, except for the huge 2066 socket, and should probably come at a lower cost, compared to the full X299 boards. With 1151, with 300 series chipset to support hexacore processors, not sure where these kabylake-x board stands, since they don't allow the upgrade path, to the 6 core skylake-x. https://videocardz.com/71656/x299-kabylake-x-only-motherboards-are-here

I got this from the wiki page before building my new system. I was not sure which of the i9 CPUs to pick. Due to my lack of knowledge my interpretation of the 7900x data was that if all 10 cores were utilized, then 2 cores will run at @ 4.3, 2 cores will run @ 4.1, and the last six will run @ 4.0! Then after building the system I discovered that I was totally wrong and that if all 10 cores were active then they will all run @ 4.0. Then this might suggests that if only 4 cores were active then they will be @ 4.1, and if only 2 were active then they will be @ 4.3. And if 1 core was active then maybe it will run @ 4.5?! If all that was correct, does this mean that utilizing all the 7980 XE cores will result in 3.4 frequency?! This one is really low don't you think? I don't use my system for games, I am mainly encoding in Handbrake...I might one day play some games, but I use the console mostly...