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  1. When two pieces of metal are lapped (not just sanded) they stick together. And if they stick together, it means they have near-perfect contact between them. Which, in theory, means that lapping both your IHS and cooler well enough can make them able to transfer heat at a much higher rate than thermal paste. In practice, I tried searching for people who actually did this, found an old forum post from 2005, where someone wanted to do it but apparently never got around to it. Found a more recent 2020 YouTube video with someone planning to do it, but they also haven't done it yet. Do you guys have any information on this topic? Has anyone done before/after tests properly? Do temps get lower? Are the thermal paste merchants hiding the truth on purpose? If anyone is brave enough to try, be aware of galvanization occurring between different metals. IHS and cooler also might cold weld together I think. Example of metals sticking:
  2. Knowing that copper transfer heat better than aluminum, why does they don't have a copper made IHS ?
  3. I've got the Intel i9 10900K and EK-Quantum Magnitude Nickel Acetal and I'm wondering if it is okay to use Liquid Metal between the two? I'm not sure what material the IHS of the 10900K is made of, so I just want to be sure of that and if it is safe to use Liquid Metal between these two parts. Another question is, will I notice much of a difference using Liquid Metal between the IHS and CPU Block rather than just regular Thermal Paste?
  4. Tom 21

    Thermal paste

    Hello I’m 14 and very new to pc building I’ve decided to swap my cpu cooler can I put the thermal paste onto the bottom of the coolers ihs instead of putting it straight onto the cpu i thought it might be easier to spread it. if you have any tips please help me
  5. There is a common misconception that the reason delidding a CPU and replacing the thermal paste is because Intel uses low quality TIM (thermal interface material). While there is some truth to it, the main reason for the temperature drops is the removal of the adhesive that holds the IHS (integrated heat spreader) and PCB together. Removing it reduces the gap between the IHS and the die itself, meaning heat doesn't have to transfer between such a thick layer of TIM, as shown in this diagram: Credit to ekwb.com for the diagram The thermal paste that Intel provides isn't actually that low quality. While it definitely doesn't perform as well as higher end thermal pastes or liquid metal (just replacing the pre-applied TIM with MX-4 on a 4790K got me a 7C drop), it lasts much longer. This is a very good trade-off. It would be very bad for Intel if the TIM wore off after a year or less. In mid-2016, Linus did a delidding video that made many of his fans believe there was actually little benefit to delidding. His tests showed almost only a 3C drop in temperatures after delidding. Some blamed it on the fact that he used cheap TIM (which must have contributed somewhat), but it doesn't explain why most people get around a 15-20C drop. The culprit can be found about 5 minutes into the video: the excess adhesive. At no point after that does he properly remove the adhesive. This can be seen in later shots, although the images are less clear.. The gap remains between the CPU die and IHS, meaning the main problem isn't solved. When placing it back together, you can see a gap between the IHS and PCB, instead of sitting flush like it should: When delidding, you will have to replace the TIM, as it's useless once you've separated the IHS and CPU. However, it is very important that you also remove the adhesive. This can safely be done with an old credit card, or your finger nails. Hopefully this clears up confusion, and lets you get the most success when delidding. If you apply new adhesive, I recommend putting the CPU back in the motherboard before it dries, to reduce the gap between the IHS and die as much as possible. PS: I know it may appear that I am trying to speak ill of Linus, but I want to emphasize that I have great respect for him. I have learned a great deal from his videos. There was just a mistake in one of them that perpetuated a common misconception, and I wanted to clear things up.
  6. Anyone aware of a source that ships the delid die mate 2 to the US and has it in stock? Amazon, ebay, and overclockers.uk list it as out of stock or no longer available.
  7. Even though it could be quite dangerous and a bit messy, is there anyway to cool a CPU with a standard cooler without needing to leave the IHS on the CPU? I would guess that would improve thermals a little bit more than a delid.
  8. So I can imagine just laying the computer on it's side so the IHS doesn't slide around and just mounting the cooler as normal. Is this a bad idea?
  9. Hi everyone, I have been interested in the cooling side of things for quite some time now, and still feel that there's a lot of room for improvement in that regard, even though things have moved on a bit over the last 15 years. I have been playing around with liquid metals, lapping and delidding CPU IHS etc. I found a company, that is actually starting to sell synthetic diamond square blocks of which dimensions vary from 10mmX10mmX0.5mm to 10X10X0.3 , which is obviously too thin to replace an IHS as is. However the interesting part is its thermal conductivity, the lowest is rated for >1000 Wm-1 K-1 @293 K The best >2000 Wm-1 K-1 @293 K Link is there: https://e6cvd.com/us/application/thermal.html Question is: Does anyone know if there are - I have searched in vain so far - already manufacturers using these type of synthetic diamond based materials for IHS, and if so, or if someone was willing to try to work on these, what would be the thermal improvements observed over copper based IHS (as a reminder pure copper is rated at approx 385 Wm-1 K-1 Thanks Mederic
  10. So I just got the Ryzen 7 3700X. I was switching cpu coolers today because the h60 wasn’t doing so good for keeping the temps low like it did my last cpu. so when I was cleaning the CPU with isopropyl alcohol and a coffee filter before applying the new cooler low and behold SOMEHOW a scratch appeared on the brand new CPU..I just want to know if this is a cause for concern? Because I just spent a whopping $400 CAD on this cpu and I’m most concerned about the thermals and if this is something that will effect anything down the road. Like it’s very minuscule and I may be overreacting but with a $400 chip you can’t blame me... maybe it will come off but I tried rubbing and it’s def a scuff/scratch of some kind.. how it got there, I don’t even know. thanks in advance for any advice.
  11. Hi. I made an account specifically to both ask and share. I recently bought 24 Opteron 6128 CPUs because I had nothing better to do, and noticed that only on two that the IHS is smoothed over in the corners. Anyone know why this would be, whether it be from manufacturing or someone(seemingly unlikely as it seems pretty precise) doing it themselves? Otherwise, enjoy staring at a bunch of Opterons.
  12. Hi, so I've heard that Intel 9th gen CPUs are meant to have soldered IHS like the olds days and are therefor doing away from the whole delid thing with the glued IHS on Coffee Lake. I wanna know, why did the whole delid thing become a thing and why was Intel gluing the IHS plates onto the CPU? Also, what's the importance of a soldered IHS vs a 'glued' IHS? I'm kind of in the dark about this IHS thing so please excuse my lack of knowledge, if you never ask, you never know.
  13. I bought a bunch of old xeons to put into budget systems and I would like to squeeze all of the performance i can out of my X3430. I would delid but I am unsure as to whether the IHS is soldered on or not.
  14. i bought a couple old xeons and wanted to know if delidding was possible, evan thought i only spent $9.98 on them both combined i dont want to destroy them just to find out
  15. So, I was thinking temperature wise after I watched the threadripper 2 chilling video, and it got me thinking about heat conductivity. So I started looking and found a standalone copper IHS for an LGA 1151 chip. I personally don't have the time and money to do this (I'm forced to watch Linus have fun) so I'm wondering if it would even make a difference... https://rockitcool.myshopify.com/products/copper-ihs-for-lga-1150-1151
  16. hi i just delided my cpu and successfully got a temp lower by 8-10C but when i relid the cpu i didn't remove the old black glue as is too hard and time consuming .I just let the cpu socket clamp down the IHS . My question is, is it a must to crap the old glue clean? will it affect the temp alot ? thanks
  17. Hi everyone, I got a new cooler, and I took off the old thermal paste to put a new one on. New temps weren't the way I liked them - few deg higher than before - so I thought I put too much paste, and I used the wrong method and got air inside. I took the cooler off, cleaned the paste thoroughly using a microfiber cloth and 99% isopropyl alcohol. I used paper towels in the begining too to take the big lump of paste off, then finished it with the cloth. I scratched the surface of both my IHS and the cooler, it looks terrible and it's making me paranoid. Will this effect the temperatures, or will thermal paste fill it in?
  18. Hi Everyone, I had a question of curiosity and was wondering if there's a physical size difference between the LGA 1155 IHS and LGA 1151 IHS. Which one is bigger and would the larger IHS fit on the smaller CPU package? Thanks!
  19. I have an Asus ROG CB20 that I bought because of the great price at the time ($830). I have been toying with the idea of delidding the i7 6700 non K. I was thinking about liquid metal, but if I decide to just use non-conductive thermal paste is it safe to put the IHS back on without securing it with silicone? The 6700 and 1070 both get pretty warm so I am hoping to help cooling where I can in such a small case.
  20. Hello, I don't intend to do this, but I was surfing the web and I stumbled upon this product, and my question is: Is it better to remove the IHS, use the best thermal compound you can get with this tool + a decent cooler; OR Install back the IHS as most people do. I don't know, not in this year but in the future I could maybe consider a delidding my CPU, and now I'm curious.
  21. Buy Threadripper 1950x on Amazon: http://geni.us/6wjKj Linus wants to delid... Threadripper? Let's just hope he doesn't drop it...
  22. Simple question, does it have to be liquid metal between cpu and IHS? Or is that just what people like? Like if I used artic silver for both layers rather than liquid metal and then artic silver? I ask because liquid metal is so sketchy! Also would an ihs having silpped sideway explain some cores being way hotter than others? Thanks!
  23. I have been thinking about delidding my two e5-2670s, because why not. I have practice and can confidently do it if its not soldered, but if it is soldered, I would want to buy some soldered CPU's to practice on first. I know there is a certain generation gap where they are soldered. Is every Xeon soldered though? Would i want to do direct die cooling? Or just do a TIM swap.
  24. I have decided to do some kind of IHS mod, as my 4770K is running way hotter than it should. The question is, should I get completely rid of the IHS, or should I just clean away the old glue and thermal paste, apply new paste and put the IHS back on top? Completely getting rid of the IHS would probably drop the temp down a couple degrees I guess, but is it worth it? (or is it even possible)
  25. So I bought an intel i5-4440 almost close to two years ago, was pretty good then after about a year noticed things being very slow as well as hot.. NOW a year later it takes minutes to start applications and gets awfully hot when running ANY type of game (and yes running a dedi gpu / gtx 760) in the mid 70c range. max being 75c and making my fan (which i bought under the impression it would make the system quieter) sound like a vacuum cleaner at 80% speed... reading into haswell i saw lots of them have IHS/TIM problems and make me think i have that issue with mine (i used to idle at 32c now in the high 40s and 50s, while gaming when i first bought it, it would only go to 58c max)... long and the short of it; should i consider delidding my 4440 or can ? thanks.
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