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  1. Hey guys I have a i5-4670k OC to 4.4ghz and a Gtx 1070 OC to 2Ghz I have recently started playing Watch Dogs 2 and noticed that my CPU usage is 100% almost all the time while my GPU only comes in the 80's. The game is very playable and it's not a big deal, but I would need some advice for the coming 2-3 years since I assume this will only get worse and will become a problem in future titles. I checked my CPU usage in some older titles and was surprised by how much CPU those titles are using. Need for speed Rivals locked at 60Fps takes my CPU to 80-90% while my GPU sits comfortably at 50%. From normal reviews and general impressions I thought a i5-4670K was supposed to not be a bottleneck for quite some time but I fear it is. So here's my question: - Do you think this is normal with a 4.4ghz i5-4670k or am I unlucky with mine in some way? - Viable upgrade options: getting a better chip for the lga1150 Socket which I'm using now, or upgrade the board and CPU to a newer gen, taking into account I'll have to upgrade my Ram too which is expensive - Wait another year or so and just get a new rig? - Do you think going for a manual overclock and getting a bit more out of my CPU would help? ( I've never done a manual overclock) Full rig details: - MoBo: Gigabyte G1. Sniper M.5 LGA1150 - CPU: Intel i5-4670K OC - 4.4Ghz - Graphics: EVGA Gtx 1070 SC - Ram: 34Gb Corsair Vengeance @ 1833Mhz - Storage: 2 Samsung 540 Pro in Raid 0, 3TB WD Hard drive - Power Supply: Corsair HX650 gold - CPU Cooler: H100i Thanks for the advice Stef
  2. Hello, I have an issue and I don't really know if there is anything I can necessarily do about it or not. I have very little experience when it comes to part compatibility and cooperation. So I need help! I'm running a system that I built in 2013 when I was 12, fast forward to now I just decided to throw a better graphics card in it and overclock the cpu before college.. because why not. Even after doing this I still get about the same fps when it comes to game play. In overwatch I would average 90-140 frames with my old graphics card (960 2gb), also the cpu used to be clocked at 4.0ghz, and now its pretty much the same except I get anywhere from 90-170. (with 2060 and cpu at 4.6ghz) I'm sure I need alot more information before I or someone else can really pinpoint what the problem is... I just really don't know what to start with. Part list (2019 with new graphics card) i5-4670k @4.6ghz Msi Z87-G45 Gaming Atx LGA1150 G.Skill sniper gaming Series 16gb (2x8gb) DDR3-1600 mem [this is pretty bad... I just realized this] EVGA RTX 2060 6gb xc ultra gaming
  3. Hello, I just upgraded my GPU from a MSI GTX-760 SLI to a 8GB MSI Duke RTX 2080 in my current build. Back in 2014, I built my dream computer when I was 15yo (build details below) and everything was great until one of my 760's died and killed the performance in today's games. So, I decided to upgrade my GPU to the 2080, even knowing that a bottleneck would occur. To cope with the bottleneck and unexpected shutdowns, I added more RGB fans hoping this would solve the problem, sadly frames only increased slightly and the shutdowns have continued. So my fellow Glorious PC Gaming Master Race Gods, Is it better to upgrade my current CPU from my Intel i5-4670k to a i7-4790k to reduce bottleneck in 2019 ($500-600 upgrade)? Or should I go with a new AMD Ryzen 2700x build (Budget $1,000. Motherboard, Processor, RAM upgrade)? I am a NVIDIA, MSI, and Corsair Fanboy, change my mind. I would love for Linus and the LTT group to make a video on this topic. Thank you in advance to the community for your generous replies. My current build is as follows with planned upgrades in bold should the i7 4790K not be a good option (Current settings generated with Speccy): Operating System (Future Upgrade to Win 10 Pro) Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU (Future Upgrade to AMD 2700x) Intel Core i5 4670K @ 3.40GHz 29 °C Haswell 22nm Technology RAM (Patriot Viper) (Future Upgrade to 64GB DDR4 G.Skill Trident Z Royal, 3200MHz) 16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (9-9-9-24) Motherboard (Future Upgrade to MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon) MSI Z87-G45 GAMING (MS-7821) (SOCKET 0 Graphics 8GB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 (MSI DUKE) Advanced Marks: CPU Intel Core i5 4670K Cores 4 Threads 4 Name Intel Core i5 4670K Code Name Haswell Package Socket 1150 LGA Technology 22nm Specification Intel Core i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz Family 6 Extended Family 6 Model C Extended Model 3C Stepping 3 Revision C0 Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, Intel 64, NX, VMX, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3 Virtualization Supported, Enabled Hyperthreading Not supported Fan Speed 1508 RPM Bus Speed 100.0 MHz Stock Core Speed 3400 MHz Stock Bus Speed 100 MHz Average Temperature 29 °C Caches L1 Data Cache Size 4 x 32 KBytes L1 Instructions Cache Size 4 x 32 KBytes L2 Unified Cache Size 4 x 256 KBytes L3 Unified Cache Size 6144 KBytes Cores Core 0 Core Speed 3600.4 MHz Multiplier x 36.0 Bus Speed 100.0 MHz Temperature 31 °C Threads APIC ID: 0 Core 1 Core Speed 3600.4 MHz Multiplier x 36.0 Bus Speed 100.0 MHz Temperature 27 °C Threads APIC ID: 2 Core 2 Core Speed 3600.4 MHz Multiplier x 36.0 Bus Speed 100.0 MHz Temperature 32 °C Threads APIC ID: 4 Core 3 Core Speed 3600.4 MHz Multiplier x 36.0 Bus Speed 100.0 MHz Temperature 27 °C Threads APIC ID: 6 RAM Memory slots Total memory slots 4 Used memory slots 4 Free memory slots 0 Memory Type DDR3 Size 16384 MBytes Channels # Dual DRAM Frequency 800.1 MHz CAS# Latency (CL) 9 clocks RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 9 clocks RAS# Precharge (tRP) 9 clocks Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 clocks Command Rate (CR) 2T Physical Memory Memory Usage 43 % Total Physical 16 GB Available Physical 9.00 GB Total Virtual 32 GB Available Virtual 23 GB SPD Number Of SPD Modules 4 Slot #1 Type DDR3 Size 4096 MBytes Manufacturer Patriot Memory Max Bandwidth PC3-12800H (800 MHz) Part Number 2133 CL11 Series SPD Ext. XMP Timing table JEDEC #1 Frequency 444.4 MHz CAS# Latency 5.0 RAS# To CAS# 5 RAS# Precharge 5 tRAS 14 tRC 22 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #2 Frequency 533.3 MHz CAS# Latency 6.0 RAS# To CAS# 6 RAS# Precharge 6 tRAS 16 tRC 26 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #3 Frequency 622.2 MHz CAS# Latency 7.0 RAS# To CAS# 7 RAS# Precharge 7 tRAS 19 tRC 30 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #4 Frequency 711.1 MHz CAS# Latency 8.0 RAS# To CAS# 8 RAS# Precharge 8 tRAS 22 tRC 35 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #5 Frequency 800.0 MHz CAS# Latency 9.0 RAS# To CAS# 9 RAS# Precharge 9 tRAS 24 tRC 39 Voltage 1.500 V XMP-2132 Frequency 1066 MHz CAS# Latency 11.0 RAS# To CAS# 11 RAS# Precharge 11 tRAS 27 Voltage 1.500 V Slot #2 Type DDR3 Size 4096 MBytes Manufacturer Patriot Memory Max Bandwidth PC3-12800H (800 MHz) Part Number 2133 CL11 Series SPD Ext. XMP Timing table JEDEC #1 Frequency 444.4 MHz CAS# Latency 5.0 RAS# To CAS# 5 RAS# Precharge 5 tRAS 14 tRC 22 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #2 Frequency 533.3 MHz CAS# Latency 6.0 RAS# To CAS# 6 RAS# Precharge 6 tRAS 16 tRC 26 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #3 Frequency 622.2 MHz CAS# Latency 7.0 RAS# To CAS# 7 RAS# Precharge 7 tRAS 19 tRC 30 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #4 Frequency 711.1 MHz CAS# Latency 8.0 RAS# To CAS# 8 RAS# Precharge 8 tRAS 22 tRC 35 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #5 Frequency 800.0 MHz CAS# Latency 9.0 RAS# To CAS# 9 RAS# Precharge 9 tRAS 24 tRC 39 Voltage 1.500 V XMP-2132 Frequency 1066 MHz CAS# Latency 11.0 RAS# To CAS# 11 RAS# Precharge 11 tRAS 27 Voltage 1.500 V Slot #3 Type DDR3 Size 4096 MBytes Manufacturer Patriot Memory Max Bandwidth PC3-12800H (800 MHz) Part Number 2133 CL11 Series SPD Ext. XMP Timing table JEDEC #1 Frequency 444.4 MHz CAS# Latency 5.0 RAS# To CAS# 5 RAS# Precharge 5 tRAS 14 tRC 22 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #2 Frequency 533.3 MHz CAS# Latency 6.0 RAS# To CAS# 6 RAS# Precharge 6 tRAS 16 tRC 26 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #3 Frequency 622.2 MHz CAS# Latency 7.0 RAS# To CAS# 7 RAS# Precharge 7 tRAS 19 tRC 30 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #4 Frequency 711.1 MHz CAS# Latency 8.0 RAS# To CAS# 8 RAS# Precharge 8 tRAS 22 tRC 35 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #5 Frequency 800.0 MHz CAS# Latency 9.0 RAS# To CAS# 9 RAS# Precharge 9 tRAS 24 tRC 39 Voltage 1.500 V XMP-2132 Frequency 1066 MHz CAS# Latency 11.0 RAS# To CAS# 11 RAS# Precharge 11 tRAS 27 Voltage 1.500 V Slot #4 Type DDR3 Size 4096 MBytes Manufacturer Patriot Memory Max Bandwidth PC3-12800H (800 MHz) Part Number 2133 CL11 Series SPD Ext. XMP Timing table JEDEC #1 Frequency 444.4 MHz CAS# Latency 5.0 RAS# To CAS# 5 RAS# Precharge 5 tRAS 14 tRC 22 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #2 Frequency 533.3 MHz CAS# Latency 6.0 RAS# To CAS# 6 RAS# Precharge 6 tRAS 16 tRC 26 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #3 Frequency 622.2 MHz CAS# Latency 7.0 RAS# To CAS# 7 RAS# Precharge 7 tRAS 19 tRC 30 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #4 Frequency 711.1 MHz CAS# Latency 8.0 RAS# To CAS# 8 RAS# Precharge 8 tRAS 22 tRC 35 Voltage 1.500 V JEDEC #5 Frequency 800.0 MHz CAS# Latency 9.0 RAS# To CAS# 9 RAS# Precharge 9 tRAS 24 tRC 39 Voltage 1.500 V XMP-2132 Frequency 1066 MHz CAS# Latency 11.0 RAS# To CAS# 11 RAS# Precharge 11 tRAS 27 Voltage 1.500 V Motherboard Manufacturer MSI Model Z87-G45 GAMING (MS-7821) (SOCKET 0) Version 1.0 Chipset Vendor Intel Chipset Model Haswell Chipset Revision 06 Southbridge Vendor Intel Southbridge Model Z87 Southbridge Revision C1 System Temperature 30 °C BIOS Brand American Megatrends Inc. Version V1.2 Date 5/17/2013 Voltage AVCC 3.344 V 3VCC 3.344 V CPU CORE 1.016 V VCCIN 1.744 V DRAM 1.488 V +12V 12.144 V +5V 5.040 V PCI Data Slot PCI-E Slot Type PCI-E Slot Usage In Use Data lanes x16 Slot Designation J6B2 Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Slot Number 0 Slot PCI-E Slot Type PCI-E Slot Usage In Use Data lanes x1 Slot Designation J6B1 Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Slot Number 1 Slot PCI-E Slot Type PCI-E Slot Usage In Use Data lanes x1 Slot Designation J6D1 Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Slot Number 2 Slot PCI-E Slot Type PCI-E Slot Usage In Use Data lanes x1 Slot Designation J7B1 Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Slot Number 3 Slot PCI-E Slot Type PCI-E Slot Usage In Use Data lanes x1 Slot Designation J8B4 Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Slot Number 4 Slot PCI-E Slot Type PCI-E Slot Usage In Use Data lanes x1 Slot Designation J8D1 Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Slot Number 5 Slot PCI Slot Type PCI Slot Usage In Use Bus Width 32 bit Slot Designation J8B3 Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Slot Number 6 Graphics NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Manufacturer NVIDIA Model GeForce RTX 2080 Device ID 10DE-1E87 Revision A2 Subvendor MSI (1462) Current Performance Level Level 1 Current GPU Clock 645 MHz Current Memory Clock 405 MHz Current Shader Clock 405 MHz Bus Interface PCI Express x16 Temperature 38 °C Driver version 25.21.14.1935 BIOS Version 90.04.0b.40.bf Memory 4095 MB Count of performance levels : 5 Level 1 - "Perf Level 0" GPU Clock 645 MHz Shader Clock 405 MHz Level 2 - "Perf Level 1" GPU Clock 645 MHz Shader Clock 810 MHz Level 3 - "Perf Level 2" GPU Clock 720 MHz Shader Clock 5000 MHz Level 4 - "Perf Level 3" GPU Clock 720 MHz Shader Clock 6800 MHz Level 5 - "Perf Level 4" GPU Clock 720 MHz Shader Clock 7000 MH
  4. Hey, I'm currently trying to set the integrated "HD-Grafik 4600" of my CPU (i5-4670K) as energy saving GPU within the Windows 10 graphic settings. But for some reason only the dedicated GPU is showing up. Could be the age of the CPU the reason for not supporting being used while a dGPU is installed? Attached is a screenshot of the graphic settings window:
  5. I'm looking to upgrade my gpu, as I got a new 1440p/144Hz monitor earlier in the year and want to get the most of it, however am somewhat worried of possible bottlenecking. I'm looking at getting either an gtx 2070 super or potentially a 2080 super. Issue may be my i5-4670K cpu, although not sure if it will be a problem for now? My current build specs are as follows: CPU: i5-4670K Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 Current GPU: MSI RX 480 PSU: Corsair CX 500W Monitor: Asus MG279Q ROG Dominator 27" 1440p 144Hz Planned gpu upgrade: GTX 2070 super or 2080 super I use my rig for gaming (gta v, rocket league, tomb raider, battlefield) as well as for a lot of 3D modelling work / rendering / production work, using Cinema 4D (planning to use Octane render once I get a nvidia card), Rhino, Maxwell render, Photoshop, etc. I realise that if I upgrade my cpu I would likely have to upgrade my motherboard, and possibly my ram as well, by which point I wouldn't really be able to afford a new gpu which is the main point of the upgrade for use with the monitor. Let me know your thoughts on whether getting a 2080 super (or 2070 super) would be fine with my build, or if you have advice for how to better upgrade. I usually prefer to upgrade one element at a time, rather than upgrading several pieces with lower performance, but open to comments. Thanks
  6. Hi, I have tried to run the BV beta, but it can't run on my computer. I have a Geforce GTX 780 gpu, a Intel i5-4670k and 16gb ram, do I have to upgrade both the gpu and cpu to run BV? The gpu is inside the minimum requirments, while the cpu isnt, but I have read that the gpu is the most important? And tips to what I should upgrade to? Have looked at buying a gtx 1070 8gb (either used or on Ebay), but then I cant upgrade the cpu/buy an expensive one.
  7. Found a person selling a used PC for $150... Specs: Intel core i5 4670K Quad Core Corsair H105I Water Cooling 16GB DDR3 Memory. 240GB Crucial MX300 SSD(Primary Drive) 2TB Western Digital Enterprise drive NVIDIA GTX 780(Non-Ti) Graphics Card. 500w EVGA PSU. Corsair Carbide Air 240 in White Color Case.
  8. One of those questions that falls into several categories. Does it belong in CPU forum? I've put it here because the system is exclusively for gaming! So I recently got a 1080ti because I'm crazy like that. My build looks a little mismatched now though. i5-4670k at 4.3ghz. I play at 4k60hz and I do tend to play AAA titles. Will upgrading to a shiny new Coffee lake give me much higher FPS for what i'd spending? (CPU+MB+Ram+RGB) I Figure Ryzen is out of the question because in any game that uses 4 cores or less I'd be getting a lower frame-rate.(lower IPC) so its Intel only for me. But on the high end is there evidence of FPS gain coming from this to something like an 8700k? Is that FPS gain worth the cost of entry? (<£600) My current build and what I'd buy if I upgraded today. (Thats a 7700k not an 8700k because the 8700k is £150 more at the moment)
  9. Hey LTT community I was thinking about upgrading my Asus Direct CUII GTX 780 that i bought two years ago for either single or SLI GTX 1080's. Will my i5-4670k, Z87 PRO and RM 750 be able to handle them? Any responses would be much appreciated. Thanks.
  10. Recently my PC has begun to randomly shut down, the three times I've witnessed it happening it had occurred during internet browsing and youtube videos. Browser: Chrome PC Spec sheet: i5-4670K Stock clocks most of the time, max 4.5ghz at 1.28-1.30v Gigabyte Z87X-HD3 2x4gb Klevv Genuine 1866mhz EVGA GTX 1070 FTW ("stock" 2050mhz boost clocks) Samsung 840 Evo 250gb SSD 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue HDD Corsair 650w PSU (dont remember actual name, took the stickers off cause it didnt go with build theme.) I suspect either Memory or PSU, with low suspicion on the Ram or Mobo being the cause, I'm going to try and run memtest tonight to check the memory out. Any input on similar issues with similar or different builds is very helpful, classes start in two weeks and I really cant be without my rig for too long, and im not exactly rolling in enough cash to fix it or upgrade right away.
  11. I'm currently considering upgrading my monitor and graphics card. My eye is on the Asus ROG Swift PG278Q (27', 1440p, 144hz) in combination with an nVidia GTX 1080 (Asus Strix, when it comes out). I want to know if there are any bottlenecks currently in my system that will make my life harder, especially once I start pushing towards higher than 60 frames-per-second. I'm also planning on stepping into virtual reality in 2017 or 2018, will that be a problem? Currently I'm most worried about my CPU, since I'm not sure if it's up to the task. Upgrading that would be a pain, since I would need a new motherboard, which in turn will make my OEM version of Windows 8 (upgraded to 10) invalid. Any information would be more than welcome. Thanks in advance! My current setup: MBO: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming CPU: Intel i5-4670k (overclocked to 4Ghz) GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 770 Direct CUII (2GB) RAM: 2x8 Corsair Dominator DDR3-1866 PSU: Corsair AX860 ATX Monitor: Samsung S23B350T (23', 1080p, 60hz)
  12. Hi everyone. I have been having concerns when overclocking. My motherboard seems to add voltage when all I do is increase the multiplier. Does anyone happen to know the stock voltages for the Cache, Vcore, and one other controller that deals with he PCI lanes? I don't know why but I can't seem to find the stock voltages for this CPU anywhere online, all I find are people asking for max safe voltage. My motherboard does not tell me the voltages either, it just says Auto, I need to manually select what I want. Thanks in advance.
  13. Hello, It has been a warm couple of days here in the Netherlands and its getting even warmer in the weekend. So i figured I clock down my cpu to stock clock speeds. I set the fixed mode to auto in the bios and the clock speed + voltage on auto but now it wont clock down anymore. it stays at 3.4 Ghz all the time on a ~1.015V. Im using a msi z87-g45 gaming motherboard with bios version 1.09 and a i5-4670k Thanks in advance!
  14. So this morning I turned on my computer and was greeted by the usual start up procedures. But then, the computer didn't output anything and the CPU led on my motherboard was glowing red! The Z97-A board has a power-on-self-test. Everything was running fine, all the fans and pump were running, but the computer just didn't boot. I suspect it is a CPU failure, but I do not know how as it was just working 7 hours ago. Thank you for your time! CPU: i5-4670k CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 RAM: Corsair Vengeance 1x8gb 1600mhz MB: Asus Z97-A GPU: 2x R9 270X PSU: EVGA Supernova 750G2
  15. I know, I know - Z97. But, please, read the thread and then reply. In few weeks time I'm going to buy a new PC, so I'm making sure that everything is best at the lowest price possible. I'm kind a greedy person when we're talking about money, so I want to save as much money as I can. I chose the parts by how I'm going to use them or need them to do something: Intel Core i5-4690k (because I play games only, don't need i7 for rendering or something... at least now) Gainward GTX 970 (it's the lowest price GTX 970 in Poland and it's still kinda good) ASRock Z97 Extreme3 (because I'm planning SLI in the next few years and a CPU upgrade to i7-4790k) (12GB of ADATA 2x2GB and 1x8GB GoodRAM 1333Mhz RAM, because I don't need 16GB... at least now - that's why there is a free slot on the mobo left) Intel 520 120GB SSD (cuz' why not) SAMSUNG 1TB SATA2 7200RPM HDD (from my actual PC - it stores all the games, movies and photos I have) Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (make it cool, baby) XFX Core 750W 80+ Bronze (for the mentioned SLI) Zalman Z9+ (do I have to explain why?) 5 fans (1 on the heatsink + 3 LED + 1) So that's how it's going to (probably) be like. But I'm not sure (again) if I truly need the Z97 chipset. I don't see any pros and cons of having Z87 instead of Z97, without counting saving money. Simplyfiing it a litle bit, I don't know if the I5-4690k is going to work on Z87, because that's actually the only thing why I want to spend those 20$ more on the motherboard, and for me it's a bit much. Or if I even need the i5-4690k instead of i5-4670k. I don't know. Please, help me with this. It might be simple question with much reading, but I want to be super-duper sure about this. I just don't know if the Z87 support for Haswell-Refresh won't end, for example, tommorow. If i said something wrong, you propose to change something in the PC or just want to answer to my question - reply to this post Thanks in advance.
  16. I just overclocked my i5-4670k, with my NH-D14 cooler, at 4.2ghz and 1.2v my cpu temp was maxing out at 79c. My idle temp is around 25c. This is my first overclock so I'm not sure but, it seems my temps should be lower with this cooler. I am using a Enthoo pro case with stock fans and their is no graphics card in my system yet. Even though the max temp is 79c the average under load is around 74c. Should I be conserned? Should I clean and remount my NH-D14? Does my case not have good enough airflow? I had to slide the small fan up a tiny bit to fit over the ram but, all the airflow is still going through the fins. could that be the problem? how did I do in the silicon lottery?
  17. Hi guys! I was just wondering, will opening the side panel of my case (mostly for looks) help the cooling of the interior of the case itself? Or the airflow will still be restricted inside the case? I want to know because I am gaming whilst using my stock cpu cooler still (Built my PC 2 days ago) and I'm saving up for a better one. Running i5-4670K @ 3.4 GHz & Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II OC.
  18. What do you think guys anything i need to change? PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3zCmY CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£163.94 @ Amazon UK) Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£162.80 @ Amazon UK) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.63 @ Amazon UK) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£98.49 @ Amazon UK) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked Video Card (£529.99 @ Amazon UK) Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case Power Supply: Cooler Master V850 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply Thanks in advance
  19. Hi all I'm not sure if there is a thread for this already (so far, I cant see one). I just wanna ask if you have any motherboard recommendation for this setup... GPU : GeForce GTX 760 (most probably non-reference) CPU : Intel Core i5-4670K @ 3.40GHz RAM : CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 I'm thinking of Gigabyte G1 sniper M5 although i think it is too pricey and i do not need to have all those extra bells and whistles (or do I.. honestly clueless..) Also will there be bottlenecks with this build? Any recommendation is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
  20. I recently got some money together to get a better CPU. I got an ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer motherboard, and bought an i5-4670K the other day for it (won't get here till tomorrow). I've been pretty brand loyal to AMD (still am), but I decided to give Intel a go since I got that motherboard. I should also note that I'm kind of bias against Intel (due to some legal situation a good while back I was part of). The only real problem I see with the 4670K so far is that it lacks VT-d (I needed this feature specifically for GPU-passthrough and virtualization). Considering the old Phenom II X3 720 and the discontinued ASRock 970 Extreme3 R1.0 board I have provides IOMMU (AMD-equivalent of VT-d needed for the passthrough), it didn't even occur to me to check for such a feature before buying that CPU. I figured "it's unlocked and costs a good bit", and just assumed it would have all the features the non-K version had, but just unlocked. Needless to say, I'm pretty disappointed with that to the point of almost not even wanting to give Intel a chance (I don't like encouraging such behavior from companies). The way I also see it as, I could buy the FX-8350, get it unlocked, have full virtualization support, be pretty well set for multi-threading, and get it under $200; or I could choose the i5-4670K, get it unlocked, pay $60-more, and deal with botched virtualization support, but have decent multi-threading, and (significantly?) better single-threaded performance. On the other hand, I'm kind of questioning how viable GPU passthrough would be. Technically, I couldn't do it at all with my current setup on AMD due to me lacking a second GPU anyway, but it would be a fun thing to look into later. Could possibly do it on Intel if I just make the iGPU primary and dedicate my 7850 to the passthrough, but from what I understand, passthrough can be pretty annoying or just not work at all (I hear the guest reboot issue still exists). If I get an additional $200 later, I may want to buy a second GPU, but that'll likely be way down the road at some point if ever. I'm also interested in PCI-E 3.0. I sometimes do Eyefinity with my 7850, and I'm curious to see if it would offer any boost in-comparison to PCI-E 2.0. I'll play around with the 4670K while I have it, but I'm considering either keeping it, returning it (if Newegg allows it), or just re-selling it (but I am open to suggestions). As for what CPU i'll get, that depends on a pending RMA-request from ASRock. The 970 Extreme3 I have now had support for the FX-8350, but it was later removed. There are mixed reviews as to how this mobo handles that CPU. ASRock support told me that it should be fine as long as the VRM is sufficiently cooled, but I'm not 100% sure if I want to take the risk or not (kind of tempted to though; I have some fans lying around). Alternatively, if ASRock does accept my RMA request to exchange the motherboard for one that can handle the 8350 without question, I'm pretty confident I'd just go for that. I could also probably sell the Fatal1ty H97 Killer and buy a new motherboard too. On the note of the 4670K lacking VT-d, my other option is to try for the upcoming 4690K. Intel's product page lists VT-d compatibility (which according to others is strange considering K series usually lacked virtualization features). It seems to be around the same price I paid for the 4670K, so this may also be a valid option depending on how much money I can get back returning or selling the 4670K. As for my computer usage, I don't really play anything too high-end nowadays. I have some interest in getting better performance out of Guild Wars 2. I use Windows 8.1 primarily, but I keep looking to try to make Linux my main OS; gaming usually end up putting me back on Windows though. I have a slight interest in trying out OS X also. Aside from GW2, the only other really resource-intensive games I plan on playing are GTA IV, and possible V later down the road. I don't have a lot of money currently, and also lack patience for the most part (I could of waited a little less than a week to get the 4690K). I do like considering future-usage scenarios though. I would base my decision on overall performance, but I don't really know what sites or people to trust to do accurate/legitimate benchmarks. Some sites show the 4670K being significantly better, others show the 8350 being close or slightly better. Most people that I've seen said they would go with Intel, but I'm almost positive most of those claims have no "legitimate" reasoning for such (other than the usual "Intel + NVIDIA = masterrace tier all day without need of reasoning" bs I tend to hear). I want to see trustworthy comparisons. And then there's the FX-9370 that seems to be $230 on Newegg, which I could probably get with selling or returning the i5-4670K. I'll definitely need a new motherboard though (that i'd probably have to buy; not sure how far ASRock's kindness would extend on that regard), and likely even a new PSU (only have a 3-4 year old hec 585W PSU). I don't think it would really be worth the hassle though personally. And as for another interesting decision, I could go for a micro-ATX APU build, but that might sacrifice a good deal of CPU performance? I have my eyes on a FM2+ motherboard (nothing specific), and the A10-7850K (would still use my 7850 GPU). If I could find a relatively small/portable case to go with such a setup, it might be interesting to have for portability. So without drawing that story any further, here's my main options: - Keep the Fatal1ty H97 Killer motherboard and i5-4670K (it's a sure deal as long as neither the board or CPU are DOA) - Keep the Fatal1ty H97 Killer motherboard, attempt to sell the i5-4670K and get an i5-4690K (not sure how popular a used i5-4670K would be to sell for nearly $240) - Use the 970 Extreme3 board (or exchange with ASRock if they accept), attempt to sell the i5-4670K and get an FX-8350 (could probably sell the i5-4670K for around or more than $200 at least) I'm not too sure how Newegg would handle me trying to return the i5-4670K, but if they allowed for a return, that would be $240. If I recall right, if they wanted a restocking fee, I believe it would be $30. This is the exact i5-4670K I purchased.
  21. Ok so I have about $250 and I want to get a new CPU for my pc because I am upgrading gradualy over time starting with my CPU. So my question to you all is which processor should I get the I5-4670k or FX-8350? Based off of quality, performance per dollar, and possible overclocking. Also when I get one of these CPU's I will need to get a new motherboard leave some recommendations if you feal like it please. Thanks for reading :)
  22. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2EbPg Here is what I have so far I already have an windows 7 os. Also if possible find a similar motherboard that can have sli support would be awesome. I'm mainly going to be using this for gaming and general internet shenanigans.
  23. Hello. I've got the Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H with the i5-4670k with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. I've been overclocking to 4.2ghz with Gigabyte's easytune software by using the medium setting under smartboost with these results; Temperature at max load: http://oi61.tinypic.com/2v13qmh.jpg EasyTune Software: http://oi57.tinypic.com/2q07y3a.jpg http://oi57.tinypic.com/5k0lye.jpg As you can see, with 4.2ghz it is well under stable temperatures. However, i'm worried that these voltages for the cpu are too high, and may damage it over long-term. I'm new to overclocking but i'm wanting to overclock this safely in the BIOS instead of using the easytune software. Hopefully achieving higher speeds and using lower voltages, lowering the temperature. Help would be appreciated.
  24. I have a gigabyte z97x-sli, i5-4670k stock, asus r9-280 gpu. xfx 600w pro core PSU, adata 2x4gb ram I built this PC myself, the first time I put the cpu and cooler together I was getting temps that would jump up pretty fast and it 90c or a little more once. So I ended up cleaning the cpu and reapplying the thermal paste(ceramique 2). This time it is better, the highest I seen it go with prime95 was 81C after a few minutes. It did not look like it was going to go past that when I stopped it(I let it fluctuate a bit before I exited it. P.S. The case is a Corsair 230t, which has 2 intake fans and 1 rear exhaust fan. I plan to get a hyper 212 evo for it sometime soon, but I want to play SWTOR for a while until I can get one.
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