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Mobile SoCs have been 64-bit-only for OS for a long time now. What that meant was that they can only run a 64-bit host OS, so no more 32-bit version of Android. Good riddance, we did not need 32-bit OSes in even the late 2010s. Unfortunately, Qualcomm (and others) may have went a step too far. 2024 mobile SoCs will not even be able to run 32-bit apps, which is a massive problem! People bought Android devices because they can run legacy software on the go (to a certain extent), either natively (old Android apps) or through emulation. That means that if I upgrade to the Red Magic 8S Pro, it will be my last smartphone. Normally I would be apprehensive about buying a new phone, and suspicious of whether it would last me, but that is not true anymore. There is no upgrade path from the Red Magic 8S Pro that exists in the same form factor. Future phones will not be able to run legacy software that was the reason I even still use Android. Due to that, 2022 flagship smartphones will definitely last for years until something way better comes along. https://www.xda-developers.com/arm-future-chips-32-bit-2023/ https://www.tomsguide.com/news/snapdragon-8-gen-3 https://www.sammobile.com/news/exynos-2400-specs-10-core-cpu-2x-gpu-rdna-2/ Will an emulator be made to fix this glaring issue? Or will there be another SoC that retains legacy software support and still remain competitive? Until something like that appears, there is no upgrade path. New Android phones will not interest me in the slightest, and any performance improvement gained by new SoCs are nullified by their lack of ability to run legacy software.
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I recently got a hand-me-down S10+ from my uncle and unfortunately its the Exynos Version. The metal sides tend to conduct a heat a little too well and because i use a bumper case i can feel it. Just so you know, it does overheat occasionally outside of intensive loads. Any suggestions on how i can get the phone to not overheat? Maybe software that has more granular control? or a case that has some kind of heat dissipiation?
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Now that the S23 dropped, prices went down for the previous installment which caught my attention since I wanna upgrade from my daily drive XZ Premium. I wanna get this version in particular cause it has both decent amount of storage space and dual sim which I am very interested in since I’m gonna use it abroad. That being said, will I have trouble using an EU version in eastern asia, for example, or would it be a better move to buy it once I’m there? About the dual sim, as I’ve read, you can use the second sim slot as a microSD card reader aswell. Is this some kind of "workaround" or will it properly RW data as if it was inserted into an exclusive microSD slot like in older phones? One last concern would be the chipset and software support. The S21 and S22 used Exynos but the new S23 switched back to Snapdragon. Is the Exynos gonna get laggy overtime due to everyday use, charge cycles, lack of OS updates...? I’m open to hear better alternatives if any. The use of the phone would look something like: 15% photos 35% multimedia: yt, twitch, prime, discord... 50% dap w/ portable dac/amp.
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Source: 9to5 Google, Change.org Here's a Youtube comparison and it shows that the Exynos S20 Ultra gets toasty and then thermal throttles, and it drains battery faster compared to the Snapdragon S20 Ultra. The SD S20 Ultra that uses a Sony sensor seems to take sharper photos, have more detail and better dynamic range compared to the Exynos S20 Ultra which uses Samsung's in-house ISOCELL sensor. Even Android Central weighed in and based on their own testing, and once again the SD S20 Ultra is overall the better performer compared to the Exynose S20 Ultra. To be fair even Apple sourced their chips from two fabs, one their chips from TSMC and Samsung with the iPhone 6s. I think if I'm not mistaken Apple chips nowadays are manufactured by TSMC. I can't really speak for experience right now because it has been a long time since I've used a Samsung phone but my cousin is complaining that her Exynos Galaxy S9 pictures are often a hit or miss even in good lighting conditions. This may not be an issue for North American Galaxy S20 users but it might be for some outside especially that battery draining faster.
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Is the S7 Edge (Exynos) still good in 2017 and 2018??
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Hey, so i recently got a s7 edge (exynos) i know i'm like a year late but this is the one i could afford so i bought it, now that the s8 and s8 plus is coming out will the s7 edge still be a good phone ?? is it still enough to compete with the S8 and s8 plus?? The phone is perefect and it's really fast but i want to know if i would be able to use it for another year or two without any lag Cheers!! -
so i am an android power user i root all my phones regardless of their warranty but i never really bought a high-end phone. The thing is i just saved enough money to buy note 8 exynos version in USA cause apparently it's almost impossible to root the snapdragon version so my questions are 1. if i buy a note 8 exynos in us do i even get a warranty? 2. if it covers the warranty will i get the hardware malfunction warranty if i root it? 3. someone said to me buy an additional warranty to cover the phone when you root it. is this true? 4.should i buy it from Amazon or www.bhphotovideo.com? or another website ?
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Hello everyone! I am considering buying a new phone since there's some pretty good deals going on where I live right now. Apples are too expensive so out of the question , I've had LGs and Huaweis and I am looking forward to getting my first samsung. So I want to buy an S9 Plus but the European version has Samsung's own processor the exynos. I've heard that a lot of people have had huge battery issues with their battery life at launch back in April - June. I am a light user, I will mostly not be home to charge it for 10 hours a day, I will have whatsapp running in the background and I use mobile data (4G) constantly while I'm not at home browsing reddit / reading the news and whatnot. I usually end up only using 3-4h of screen time a day , at most. I've also heard that the august patch they rolled out improved battery life greatly , but only for some. So anyone from Europe / that owns an exynos S9 Plus that can give me some insight / feedback ? Is it worth getting the S9+? Is the battery life really that bad or has it been improved greatly? Of course I could just get it and return it within 30 days but I heard that for some the battery life went bad after around 6 months. Thanks in advance
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So I live in Australia. The Oppo Reno 5G is currently $600AUD. The S20+ 5G is currently $1200 in the Samsung Education store (with the possibility of going down to $1050 if the 35% sales happen again like they usually do. Keep in mind the Australian model S20+ doesn't support mmwave so their 5g capabilities are the same. Keep in mind budget is a factor for me. Cameras are very important to me and they seem to be of similar quality, maybe better on the Reno given the true optical zoom of 5x is stronger than tthe S20's 1.07x (true optical not hybrid optical). Given it seems the downgraded chip of Exynos 990 seems like it could actually be comparable to the SD 855, I'm just wondering whether you think the S20's features are worth the price difference. From what I can tell the main draws of the S20+ would be: 120hz refresh rate Waterproofing Quicker updates An extra year of software support? UFS 3.0 Supposedly better OS (ColorOS is getting good tho and maybe the Oppo can be fixed with a launcher?) A brighter HDR10+ screen (not sure if ill notice this on a phone) Extra 4GB of RAM (12GB - probably overkill tho) However these do come at the cost of 128GB of storage and flash on the selfie camera. For me the lack of 120hz refresh on the Oppo is the main factor making the decision hard. Do you think these advantages on the S20+ have a real world difference and are they worth an extra $450-600?
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Hi, I saw some good deals on the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and well I have been thinking of replacing my aging S5 for a while now(3 years old no 4G) . People who are going to suggest OnePlus 6 and Pixel 2 I value your suggestions, but here are the reasons why I don't want the Pixel 2 and OnePlus 6. They run stock android its well to clean Yea I know stupid but sometimes I feel they lack a lot of basic apps l feel the file manager on S5 is better than whats available on OnePlus 6. The Samsung browser is good night mode etc S Planner these tools do seems useful and well the rest l usually just disable. I have used the OnePlus 6, the phone is snappy but based on my friends experience even after the update the battery performance is bad without much youtube or skype or InShorts etc. It charges fast but that all camera is decent, not great. Also my friend claimed the phone is fast but not as good as before update don't know if it's true or not. I saw a lot of videos of the older One Plus phones with 6 gigs of ram that had visible lag after a year or so.. Now the Pixel for me the photos taken by Pixel though good seem a bit dull at times based on camera tests I have seen, MKBHD said the battery life has taken a hit and device has become a "bit" slow.. Now Why the heck am I saying all this ? After an exchange of my current phone and a cashback, Note 8 will be available for Rs 46000+ (I know expensive). I want to buy a Phone that will last me a good 3-5 Years without many issues, I have used Nexus 7(2nd gen) tablet which is a good device and had great reviews but well I never was too happy with it and after my usage(faced random restarts and ghost touches), I felt it was overhyped and overrated. The S5, on the other hand, I bought a year after the device launched it was available for just 22k at the time. I was really happy with the camera and display like I was "happy happy", it wasn't perfect heating issues a random restart but the device served me well battery wasn't as spectacular as claimed by people who reviewed the phone but well I was happy my question is what do I do Now? Google Pixel 2 often goes for sale for 34k, One Plus 6 costs just 34k Is it better to purchase either of these instead of the Note 8, I have no use of the stylus, The camera 2x zoom big display and dual sim is the only thing making me drift to Samsung. Should I buy it or wait? as the new Exynos Chipsets in S9 are making changes to improve single thread performance is buying the Note 8 at 46k worth it? with 5G and several other changes coming? Sorry for long post don't have any potatoes but if I am going to spend such a huge amount I want it to last last and stay relevant for some time....
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I've been considering trying to get an Exynos 8890 Galaxy S7 instead of the standard US Snapdragon 820 variant but I want to know if it'll work completely on Verizon's network. (for those wondering I want the Exynos version because it's reported to have better battery life and performance as well as maybe having the bootloader unlocked.)
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soooo, i found something quite interesting: - The Exynos Version, despite having slightly worse Benchmark results (less single Core, less GPU power), is actually Faster in day-to-day usage (starting Apps, etc): http://www.sammobile.com/2016/03/15/exynos-powered-galaxy-s7-appears-to-be-faster-than-its-snapdragon-820-counterpart/ - And if that is not enough yet, the Exynos version seems to have a better Battery Life: http://www.giga.de/unternehmen/samsung/news/snapdragon-820-im-samsung-galaxy-s7-46-prozent-weniger-akkulaufzeit-als-exynos-version/#utm_source%3Dgiga%26utm_medium%3Dfeed%26utm_term%3D Sorry for the German Text. The Screenshots are english tho. short summary of the Text: - sd820 version 9 Hours battery time, Exynos 12 hours. (Geekbench screens) - Ars Technica tested both, calibrated the Displays to 200 nits, and used a Script, that simulates casual Surfing. Snapdragon version has 14% less Battery Life. - Another Test, this time a Script with WebGL (more heavy, also uses GPU). Snapdragon version has 46% less Battery Life. So.... Since the Snapdragon version has a locked Booatloader, if i'm not Mistaken... Any Advantages, of having a snapdragon? Other than "probably slightly better custom rum support in the Future"? What do you guys think about those Tests/Results?
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HMM.... Way to Go Samsung.. Good Job with these... any Comments Guys? =)) but i think it will be a tough competition with mobile chips nowadays especially when intel ihas low revenues on mobile phones. Source:// http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/10/16/samsung-reveals-64-bit-exynos-7-octa-processor/
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Hi guys. I have the octa core Galaxy Note 3 and I'm wondering, how can I confirm that the big.LITTLE actually works? Is there an app that would let me see that the "LITTLE"(Cortex-A7s) part of the CPU is running at all? Because I remember reading that S4 had an hardware defect that meant it would only use the "big" (Cortex-A15s) part of the CPU. I tried an app called "System Monitor", it let's you see which clockspeed cpu cores are running at and what kind of load they are under and I could only see 4 cores. It makes sense because only 4 can run at one time but the clock speeds that I saw made me question if the A7 cores are even running. As I mentioned in the tittle the clock speeds seemed weird to me. I saw the Snapdragon 800 version on Youtube and its clockspeeds and core usage was about what you would expect. Only 1-2 cores while going through the UI not too much clock speed, maybe go 3 cores and increase the speed, run a benchmark app and they all go full capacity... Samsung eh... But my version was nothing alike to that. For starters there is always 4 cores running no matter what you do, which might be the way the Exynos 5 is designed, I don't know, but the speeds were the real issue. Just scrolling through the UI and all 4 cores max out at 1.9 GHz!? Amusingly, that's the only time that actually happens. Even while running apps, the speeds show variability but going through the homescreens!!!! Max them all out, damn you! I guess the heaviest thing this phone faces is the TouchWiz. Going back to the A7s, because of the high clock speeds we can rule out them working while no apps running, which I always thought what was going on. So I tried enabling the power saving mode since that has an option to throttle the CPU, although it doesn't say how. I thought only A7s would work but no. Power saving mode only throttles the CPU to 1.4 GHz, meaning it's still the A15s running since A7s run at 1.3 GHz. So. I wrote long enough, do you have a suggestion for me to figure this out? Also why do you think this weird clock speed issue happens?
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Samsung made the Galaxy Alpha official yesterday, and apart from being the first metallic Android smartphone from the Korean manufacturer, the Galaxy Alpha is also the first to be powered by Samsung’s Exynos 5430 SoC. Today, Samsung has released details on its new mobile processor. As expected, the Exynos 5430 is an octa-core chip (with four Cortex-A15 cores clocked at 1.8 GHz, four Cortex-A7 cores clocked at 1.3 GHz, and the Mali T628MP6 GPU), but it’s distinct from existing Exynos chips as it is the first to be built on Samsung’s new 20nm process, which the company says offers up to 25 percent less power consumption compared to SoCs built on a 28nm process while not compromising on performance. The Exynos 5430 also supports big.LITTLE HMP (Heterogeneous Multi-Processing) processing – in simple terms, this means that all the eight cores of the processor can be active at the same time, and can also be individually turned on and off as and when required. Furthermore, the Exynos 5430 supports display resolutions of WQHD (2560×1440) and WQXGA (2560×1600) – the Galaxy Alpha might have an average resolution of 1280×720, but it looks like Samsung’s newest Exynos chip won’t be left wanting for power on high-resolution devices (it’s too bad the Galaxy Tab S is powered by the older Exynos 5420, resulting in a somewhat laggy experience.) Samsung hasn’t published full specifications of the latest Exynos chipset, though you can hit up the source link for all the official details that are available as of now. Before someone asks, we should point out that the upcoming Galaxy Note 4 will be powered by the Exynos 5433 processor, and the Exynos 5430 will likely be reserved for devices that fall a tad below Samsung’s flagship phones and tablets. Source <- Check the original Samsung link ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Interesting.