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Which one should I go for video editing? Currently editing on Laptop and storing the raw data on external HDDs and transferring files to clients via GoogleDrive. Current internet speed is 100Mbps. Option 1:NAS build. Synology Diskstation DS923+ with 4x16TB HDD. Option 2:DAS build with smb. Orico 3559C3 (5bay enclosure) 5x16TB HDD. Planning to hook it up with a spare laptop via usb and connect to other devices via smb. (Yes, I have seen reviews of it overheating but not sure if it’s a major issue considering the fact that I will be turning it on only when using it and not running it 24x7)
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Budget (including currency): $3000USD Country: India Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Lightroom Classic, Adobe Photoshop, After Effects, DaVinci Resolve Studio and some light Blender work. Other details : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vj2LpB Please check the link above which I am currently planning to build. It will be mostly for video editing like music videos, youtube contents, short films. (Video Footage will be from Sony A7iv , Sony A7Siii and FX3 mostly Slog3 @4k 120/60/30/24fps) Workflow for Lightroom Classic usually has an average of 700 photos (33megapixels) edited every day. Q1. Any possible bottleneck on this build? (I’m flexible with the CPU options) Q2. Is RTX 4070 decent enough for DaVinci? If no, will downgrading the monitor solve this? Q3. Will the DAS setup have any issues? Especially thermal and power management?
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Hello there. This is a topic not bad for a first-comer, yeah? So here's the story, I have already existing storage and a pair of DDR5 modules lying around un-hooked to a device: -DRAM: SKHynix 32*2 DDR5 5600 A-Die with Custom Copper Heatsinks (Existing) -Cooling: Valkyire C280 AIO Cooler (Existing) -PSU: GreatWall GW-EPS2000BL 90+ 2000Watt(Existing) -Case: 4U Rack Case with 24xHotplug HDD Slots(Existing) So I've asked a friend of mine for certain Motherboards with: 1.With DDR5 support 2.Moderate Expansion capabilities 3.Budget or Great Sale That's how the MB was decided, a brand-new AsRock Z690 PG4 D5 on sale for just 806CNY(110.18USD). -Motherboard: AsRock Z690 PhantomGaming 4 D5 (806CNY) And with the MB decided, I will need to look through possible Intel CPUs for the NAS, with following clues: 1.Low power consumption. 2.Intergrated Graphics. Basic Graphics are required-so a big NO to all -F CPUs 3.HIGH single-thread performance preferred. Within a range of 800CNY to 1600CNY, I found 12th&13th gen with module numbers from 4-6 all capable( 12/13-400/500/600). So it is a great pain of looking around all the reviews on bilibili.com and deciding the right one. That's when the i5-13600T came. -T suffix means low power consumption, with a UHD770(rather than 730). And it has "a performance of a stock-clock 12600K or a regular 13500's, and the max-performance power consumption down to 80Watts" Oh, and it's on sale. -CPU:Intel i5-13600T (1450CNY) And a license for NAS OS is, of course, required when we have so many "attached storage devices" -Unraid Pro License(129USD) So let's make a conclusion of the SPECS: Budget (including currency): Country: China Mainland Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Unraid as BASE, virturalized Windows Server 2023 to load up a Minecraft 1.16 Spigot Server Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): -CPU:Intel i5-13600T (1450CNY) -Motherboard: AsRock Z690 PhantomGaming 4 D5 (806CNY) -DRAM: SKHynix 32*2 DDR5 5600 A-Die with Custom Copper Heatsinks (Existing) -Cooling: Valkyire C280 AIO Cooler (Existing) -PSU: GreatWall GW-EPS2000BL 90+ 2000Watt(Existing) -Case: 4U Rack Case with 24xHotplug HDD Slots(Existing) -Assessories: LSI 9305-24i HBA Card(900CNY) ---Total: 3156CNY(431.43USD) ----This is the actual money I paid this time for the componets.(Yes I have placed my order already) -Storage: Packs from all of my storage matters --With Existing HDDs: 2xWD HC550 18T, 1xSeagate EXOS 12T, 1xSeagate Barracuda 1T, 1xWD Blue 1T --With Existing SATA SSDs: 1xSamsung 860EVO 1T, 1xWD SA530 1T --With Existing NVMe SSDs: Solidigm P44Pro 1T, Acer Predator GM7000 2T, HikVision CC700 1T I'll make updates when these components arrives. And some advice would also be helpful.
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I am interested in getting a DAS for backing up and external storage, what should I know before I go into this stuff?
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Okay so here's the shtick, my mother has an art/hiking blogging business and YouTube channel so she creates a decent amount of footage and she is starting to collect external hard drives, she mainly uses them for time machine as she does everything on a MacBook but I'm looking for a better option for her. Being a homelab activist obviously I wanna just say get a prebuilt Qnap NAS or something of that sort but I recently found out about prebuilt DAS's so I'm curious if anyone can provide me with an explanation or recommendation when it comes to what path should I shove her down. (I don't really wanna have to support it, already tried to do an unraid machine on an old pc at her house and it was kind of a nightmare to support) so hopefully something low maintenance and I love you mom but something stupid proof lol her blog for those curious -
I'm looking for a DAS with 12-24 3.5" drives storage. I'm thinking the best option will be to get one with a SAS backplane that can then be attached to server with a single SAS cable. I'd like to buy used enterprise gear as I thought it'd be cheaper but I can't find any and would like some pointers. I see things like NetApp DS4246, HP StorageWorks etc but they are all ~$500 and more. Also I'd like this to be as quiet as possible as this is for an apartment. Should I consider building one? Cases with that many drive bays aren't cheap either.
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LTT'ers I need help! I am a complete noob when it comes to anything related to mass storage (outside of using 4 & 8-bay external enclosures and basic RAID configs) and my use case for mass storage IS GREATLY increasing at a rapid rate. I am currently weighing options and it seems that for my use case a JBOD DAS will work. But this is not totally clear to me and if require to switch to a better solution I can do so. I really just need to figure out what direction I need to execute on. I found these that set me on that path: https://www.servethehome.com/sas-expanders-diy-cheap-low-cost-jbod-enclosures-raid/ https://forums.serverbuilds.net/t/guide-direct-attached-storage-das-add-up-to-16-3-5-drive-bays-to-an-existing-server-for-less-than-300/136 My workflow is as follows: I am writing data to 3.5" HDDs (4TB-12TB capacities) in a 2-bay hot-swap dock, 4TB per day, on 3 different systems (12TB total). And once the writing process is complete I do not need to read or write from that disk, but I do need to see it and have it connected to a single system, I do not need network storage of any kind. Which is what leads me to think that a JBOD DAS is the best bet? And I can connect to one of my systems via an HBA? In the near future I will look to redundancy and higher capacity drives. However, my short-term (2-3 month) focus is just getting the best value in terms of $/TB and getting as many drives connect as possible for as cheap, but effective and safe, as possible. This is new to me but my workflow just drastically changed and I am trying to learn and implement as fast as possible. But between juggling this and other areas of growth, I am a bit lost on the data storage side. For my use case I require the following: 1. 15-bay enclosure at a minimum, 4U is fine, Ideally under 650mm long 2. Power of scaling, is there an effective way to daisy chain? IE if I add 3x more 15-bay solutions is there a possibility to daisy chain them together? 3. If I go DAS and connect via HBA, how does this limit my PCIe lane usage on a system. And would connecting it to a B450i/R3 2200G or Z490/i7-10700k work? Or is the only solution a prosumer platform? For more info required that could help please let me know. Like I said, I am lost in the sauce on this one, and need guidance. Thanks (a ton) in advance!
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Hey guys, currently looking to put together a NAS/DAS, will mostly be used as a DAS currently: as I don't have 10 GB Ethernet. And after watching dozens of hours of videos and reading a few articles. I still need a few things cleared up before moving forward. Thanks in advance 1. Objective • 300+ MB/s read & write performance • I would love to be able to edit footage from it, But I would be okay if I couldn't, as I currently have about 6TBs of SSDs in my computer that I can just use for active project folders • I currently shoot 4K Black Magic RAW • I'll be connecting to it via USB 3.1 for the time being • NAS features such as remote access, and file sharing, are not extremely important to me, So if there are significant cost savings involved, I would like to forego any and all parts that are strictly for NAS purposes. • Ideally, I would like to start with 4 drives ( 6-8) TBs, most likely set up in a Raid-10 array 2. Things I mainly need clarified • Given how useful NAS features can be, should I spend the extra money to keep it a NAS/DAS? • Given the fact that I'll be using USB 3.1 & 7,200 RPM drives, what can I expect my READ & WRITE speeds to be when reading the HDDs? (i'll using SSDs for caching but I'd still like to know what my speeds will be from HDDs using Raid-10) • If my ultimate priority is performance, and future of upgradlity. Should I use FreeNAS or unRAID? From what I hear, freeNAS might be the better option, but because it uses ZFS I can't easily add more storage to my already existing system? • If possible I would like to add hardware to accelerate my raid. But it seems like raid cards don't play well with software raid . I would love to know if there's a potential workaround around to this, because once again reading writes reads are my priority. Thank you for your help!
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Hey all, I just purchased a DAS, (QNAP TR-004). It's loaded with 4 drives in RAID 5. The DAS will turn on when the PC is turned on, and go into standby when the PC is turned off. It's connected via USB. Windows boots off a seperate, internal M.2, not part of the DAS or RAID setup. My problem is that the PC is waiting for the drives to startup in the DAS before it moves on from the boot screen and into Windows. Question: Is it possible to have the DAS turn on as usual but not have the PC wait for the drives to spin up and turn on before moving on to booting windows? Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master (rev 1.0) Windows 11 Any help or better understanding of what I could do would be much appreciated! Thank you!
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Hello y'all, I'm looking to upgrade from my HyperX headphones to something a little better with the intend to just listen & enjoy on my PC (I'm not recording anything). Also, my budget is around 300 $ 1. I'd be happy to receive your recommendations on open-back headphones 2. What external amp and DAC do you recommend. I've been thinking of Sound Blaster X3. 3. Do external DAC's (like Sound Blaster X3) replace the function or your motherboard sound card or do I need something else to escape motherboard interference? Thank you in advance, peace
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I just put together a post about adding a Thunderbolt PCIe card to a DIY NAS server for ultra fast point to point connectivity. I'm only getting around 20 Gbps now, but if anyone has any suggestions on how I might be able to get closer to the 40Gbps that TB is rated for (theoretical). Technically it's not a NAS itself, but it's also not a DAS because it's not using native Thunderbolt. It's using Ethernet over Thunderbolt, so I guess it is a NAS but in a bridge / token ring style network layout. I appreciate any feedback or suggestions! Thanks!
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Hello, I'm having trouble identifying whether or not this DAS is a 2U or a 4U server configuration. I did my research I couldn't find a lot about this product, I was wondering if anyone knows the model of the server. EMC KTN-STL3 VNX 15 x 3.5" Disk Array Amazon Link : https://a.co/d/0UGLHPN
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Newbie to things like RAID, NAS, etc. I do have experience in command line and Linux, but trying to keep this as simple as possible. I've converted an old gaming rig (PCPartPicker) into mainly a Plex server running on top of Win10. It already has ~3TB of storage on internal SDDs, but I want to expand my storage. In my brain, I just want a straightforward piece of hardware that would let me put multiple high-capacity HDDs into one enclosure and have all of those drives appear as one to my Win10 machine. Since my Win10 machine will be handling all of the software and transcoding, I don't want to pay for overkill on the storage hardware. In my research, the item I keep coming back to is the QNAP TR-004 which is listed as a DAS. I imagine this is because I would setup RAID on the QNAP, then since its connected via USB instead of over the network. Are there any downsides to using a DAS like the above compared to a NAS on my setup?
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Hello guys I have a mini PC ASUS PN51 that's being used as a NAS. It has a USBC 3.2 gen 2 (20 gbps) slots in its front&rear that I want to utilize with a DAS like the QNAP TR-004. I want full speed so I searched (mainly in Amazon) for a DAS with 4 bays and only found a few with 3.1 gen 2 (half the speed) Is there such a beast out there? or should I compromise for 3.1 gen 2..?
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Hello dears I will tell you my case briefly, currently I have a 6TB HDD (5400rpm) as secondary storage, where I keep mainly multimedia and downloads, and I wanted to upgrade to faster storage, such as a sata ssd, this to improve access speeds to files, transfer of the same and that it does not stick so much for example if I am listening to music in VLC and decompressing a .rar at the same time the music gets stuck at times due to the use of 100% of the hdd in that task or opening several files at once. The "problem" is that I don't know how to approach this update, since thinking of a good sata ssd would be a 4TB "SAMSUNG 870 EVO", unfortunately this is the version with the largest capacity of these units and I need to have a total of 6TB or 8TB. So what would be the best way to manage this, to buy two of these units and connect them directly to my PC or to opt for some case to have an ssd DAS. Also if I had to opt for two drives, I don't know what kind of raid I should do or if there is any ssd model other than the one mentioned that I can opt for. Any comment will be welcome. Thanks in advance.
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Budget (including currency): Country: belgium Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: storing video files Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Hi, I wanted to build a budget nas, but with the electricy pice over here, that isn't a good idea. So i was looking for a DAS instead NAS, but then i thought about an idea. Because i have some sata ports free in my workstation, can i add hdd drives and run them in raid 5? is it a good idea to do it in the workstation instead of buying a DAS enclosure and add drives there?
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Hey there people, For a while, I have been looking for a new external backup solution and figured that it might be safer to have a backup disk with redundancy via RAID. The original files are stored on my own computer and the backup solution would be there to write an incremental backup to, about once a week. After the backup has finished I intend to power down the external hardware and pull the physical plug (no energy to the thing) until the next backup session 1 week later. Since the backups are done from a stationary desktop, a NAS would be a bit pointless since I have no intention to request any of the files from another location (I'm a bit old-school ). Whilst looking for a 2 bay DAS solution I found the Western Digital my book DUO (EAN: 0718037856377) as one of the few products available. However, I also saw many complaints about hardware encryption being done which worries me, for I would be unable to recover the data on either of the two disks when the hardware failed (and if I am led to believe from the complaints, that's not unheard of...). If anything, I would like to have my data save and accessible, which is the reason for the extra redundancy. I know that I still have the original on my computer, but it would be great if the DAS hardware enclosure was the only thing that I had to replace, instead of formatting the disks and rebuilding the whole backup again. Which raises the following questions witch I hope you could help me with: I wonder if there are other products like the WD my book DUO but without hardware encryption built in (or if they do, at least with the key available to the user). Somehow I don't believe that WD is the only company making consumer grade RAID storage devices but I'm not able to find 'Offline' multi disk/bay products except for NAS'es. If such product would allow to be turned off (completely) in between backup sessions. In order to avoid power surges and energy waste (standby mode). Quick overview of intentions: 2 Bay enclosure (with or without disks) Access over USB (a/b/c/ doesn't matter that much to me) 2x 4 TB disk (WD RED or Seagate ...) RAID 1 configuration against single disk failure Semi - manual backup (I hand-pick the folders in a backup program and run manually) with the original files still on my pc. No other devices need to access the storage (over the network at least) No expansion in disks or size for the foreseeable future (pref.) Sold in/to northern Europe (current lock-downs make traveling to get something a bit difficult) If you have experience with a similar situation, I'd like to hear your chosen solution. If you are a storage guru (or anything close to that ) please share your wisdom. If you know or bought a good DAS product, I'm interested to know too. If my explanation or question is unclear, please ask for more details. Sincerely, Jack PS: I searched this forum too and found a few results for sort of similar cases except they have no product recommendation or are answered with NAS solutions and since every thread shows a message with "this is an old topic, it's better to start a new one" I tried to listen for once
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Hello guys This my first time getting to know servers. I want to have a server which can automatically backup my PC and can use that data wirelessly anywhere( on phone, laptop,TV) but also I want to have the option of access that backup data From server directly via USB,Ethernet Cable or any form of wired offline mode. And I want to configure my hard drive in RAID so I don’t loose any data if my drive fail. It’s totally new for me I don’t even know if nas need any operating system to get it work. I’m planning to get all the used components and parts Whichever you guys recommend.
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I am considering purchasing several items for an external hard drive enclosure solution for my two 2.5" 1TB Seagate Backup Plus Portable Drives to run in RAID 1. I would like to plug these in via USB to my MacBook Air until I build my gaming/productivity PC. I noticed that on the ICY DOCK full metal 4x2.4 SATA HDD and SSD Hot Swap Tough Armor MB994SK-1B there are SATA and Molex power connectors on the back. Is there any adaptor to plug this into my computer via USB or is this just for PC's? I also found some other options that are for sure USB powered such as the Syba Dual 2.5" SATA III HD/SSD RAID SY-ENC25024 https://www.amazon.com/Syba-Dual-2-5-Inch-Enclosure-SY-ENC25024/dp/B0081II3FW/ref=sr_1_20?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487824960&sr=1-20&keywords=2.5"+double+drive+enclosure+SATA This looks like a great option on paper with hardware RAID configurations, but reviews say that RAID 1 is unreliable and years worth of data can be lost. I am wondering if anyone knows if this is a good option? If not, would I be better off going with a dual 2.5" USB 3.0 External Enclosure from Zagall https://www.amazon.com/DUAL-External-Enclosure-SATA-Drive/dp/B004OU7R7Q ? Also, is this the same thing as this BYTECC BT-M260U3 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817145096 ? Does anyone know how to configure RAID 1 on Mac OS Sierra? Is it an easy process, or would I be better off getting a physical switch on the external HDD enclosure to control RAID such as on the Syba mentioned above. Thanks so much, I know don't know very much about RAID or the proper enclosures or connectors so any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Hello Community! I'm Dev and after doing some research for the last two weeks, I decided to come to this place, as the level of knowledge and engagement seems to be to high standards! I run a little design studio with three people (plus freelance) doing lots of video recently. Right now, we have 3 Mac Pro, two iMacs, a Mac Mini (for administration) and several Macbook Pro. All Macs are connected via 2xGb LCAP and a Synology DS1812+ equipped with 6 WD Reds serves also over bonded ports. The Synology did nothing but file sharing so far and it did well. Since upgrading to Gigabit-Network we've been able to edit 1080p on the NAS via NFS-mounts. Because our customers demand it, we did all shooting and editing in 4K recently, ending up with full SSDs and some external Thunderbolt SSDs we shuffle around. In a nutshell – a total disaster. It was easy to stumble across the Qnap TVS-871T (and similiar) which offers a super fast connection that would enable us to edit 4K over the network and get back to our approved structures and routines for handling stuff and backups. But with customers demanding more and more quality while simultaneously increasing the pressure on pricing, we can't put down 3-5 grand for the Qnap solution. But, we have some hardware around. And while I did my own builds in the past, I would appreciate your help here: Is it possible to build a file server with Thunderbolt-Networking? The goal should be a server that can deliver decent speed to at least two machines over Thunderbolt to edit 4K. As we have a lot of space on the Synology, we could use it for backup and the new NAS for actual work only. That takes away the need for a backup on the new NAS itself or even for redundancy. Would JBOD be an option here? Parts we have around: Intel Xeon E5-1620 V2 Intel i5 6600K 32GB ECC 1600 MHz DDR3 empty cases PSUs So, a build based on a server mainboard with the E5 and the ECC RAM suggests itself, but I think there will be almost no mainboards for that with Thunderbolt built in (or are there?). It would be okay to do a build with the i5 if the CPU would suffice for the purpose. Can anyone recommend a build for our needs? Mainboards that have working Thunderbolt networking. And which OS to use (we are all macOS and Linux guys but wouldn't mind using Windows if it meets our needs). Thanks for your help! Dev
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With the help of the internet, Das keyboard has finally reach its goal on KickStarter for their new 5Q cloud connected keyboard. The keyboard features RGB, and uses Gamma Zulu switches. Users can pre-order it for $230 dollars. the amount of dislikes...LOL http://www.daskeyboard.com/p/5q-cloud-connected-rgb-mechanical-keyboard/ http://shop.daskeyboard.com/products/das-keyboard-5q
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Hey everyone! I know this may seem like a stupid idea, however I am not as experienced with computers to this degree... I am thinking about converting my old computer into a DAS, with inserting a few additional HDDs and maybe a PCIe USB C card. Is it possible that this could work? If no, could you please suggest me how I should do it? Thank you!
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I'm looking for a Just-a-Bunch-Of-Disks Direct Attached Storage chassis with the following criteria: minimum 12 hot-swap 3.5" drive bays rackmount 2U or 3U max depth 500mm redundant psu would be nice under £1000 available easily in the UK Can you help me?
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Hello! I was wondering if there is such a thing as External HDD enclosure multi-bay, but without RAID, without Span, without anything fancy basically - i want each disk to show up individually, i just want to put all of them in one box. why no RAID? - i decided that simple is better - each disk is its own thing. Backups i do anyway - 1 backup to another external drive, second backup to Unraid server Basically - i want 'hdd dock' but in a case, with a cooler, and with fast connection - preferably usb-c 3.1 (10gbps), even better thunderbolt3 (but that's not gonna happen for reasonable price probably...) Price - I'm hoping to pay less than 150$, otherwise i'd just buy Lacie, G-tech, or other brand. they are all pricy, and usually come with HDDs preinstalled which i don't need. i'm open for DIY suggestions as well if there is no such option - please suggest what brand is most reliable in your opinion i really liked Yottamaster enclosures (on paper they are exactly what i need), but some reviews say the cooling is bad, and the box is picky about drives (like if i have bad sector - it will just shut off - does not sound appealing...) my needs - realistically i don't need anything fast - i will use those drives for personal files, photo library, music, docs, etc. - but i don't want it to be anemic either in terms of speed. if its 4 bay, maybe ill through an SSD in there as well, for occasional task that do require higher R\W speeds (like VM). thanks in advance!
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Hi guys, First off I'd like to say Hello, and secondly I am a complete newbie, so please forgive any technical mistakes I make in this post. I am just about to buy the components for my first ever build. I am a working photographer and after watching many LLT build videos, I have selected all the parts carefully. However, the components I am just not sure about is the storage for my growing archive of photos. I have been racking my brain, trying to see what the overall benefits are of a NAS such as the Synology DS1618+ with the 10gb ethernet option, or even a DAS, so I thought I'd ask you guys for some expert advice please. I currently use Amazon Drive to backup all of my photos, which is mostly fine apart from the lack of any actual hard drive mirroring ability; and I also use free Dropbox if I want to transfer images to my phone to edit and upload to Instagram, so the benefits of the NAS shared network doesn't seem to be of much benefit to me; but please tell me if I am missing something... Currently, on my aging gaming laptop, I edit from an external, 2TB WD hard drive, which I manually mirror to another hard drive with Sync toy. It is rapidly close to becoming full. Accessing the files is pretty quick over a USB 3.0 hub plugged into the laptop, so I think I'd prefer the connectivity of a DAS. However, I watched a video, where a WD DAS slowed the Youtuber's Windows 10 boot time (which I think happens to me with the WD plugged in.) So I was wondering whether having an external HDD generally does slow down boot times, or is it a WD thing? Ultimately, I keep coming back to the fact that both commercial NAS and DAS's are expensive enclosures, which will/could one day stop working, (Generally they seem to have mixed reviews on Amazon which makes me hesitant to purchase one) so I am just wondering what the pitfalls of taking the enclosure out of the equation completely are, and buying a few internal 8TB drives and storing them in my new PC, in a Raid setup, whilst backing them up to the cloud? Just for reference, the Motherboard I am going for is the X570 Taichi AM4 PCIe 4.0 ATX Motherboard with the Ryzen 3900x. Thank you in advance. D.