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Hello All, Following my last post, I managed to purchase the correct Motherboard needed to house my new Intel i5 9600K, I went for a ROG B390-H Strix Gaming. The standard clock speed for my CPU is 3.7Ghz, however, when booting my PC up I have noticed that even with the smallest loads (Chrome & iCue) the CPU seems to idle on Average at 4.4Ghz. (please see pictures below) Although I am aware K processors can be Overclocked, I have not overclocked mine and am worried that the CPU is being damaged. I recently format my PC after purchasing an SSD and have only downloaded NZXT CAM to monitor my temps etc... Can anyone give an advice on whether or not this is an issue or is normal for this type of processor. If it is an issue, what can I do to fix it? Kind Regards, Millsy
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I'm upgrading my i7 3770 (non-K). This means new mobo + DDR4 too, but the big choice is what CPU? As far as budget, I'm trying to keep it under $800 US for CPU, mobo, RAM combined. With this new build, I'm looking to combine tasks I'm doing on two separate computers currently. Should save some bucks not having to maintain two computers. My old job I used a personal MacBook Pro (expensive!) for work and this doubled as my photography machine at home. The other computer is the desktop I'm upgrading that was exclusively for gaming. Now my current job provides me hardware, so going forward, I think it would be overkill to maintain a laptop for just the photography stuff. Some details on the two use cases: Gaming - I currently have a GTX 1080. I aim for 30 or 60 fps at 4K resolution. Pretty much GPU bound case, so i5/i7 or R5/7 is not so relevant. - Emulated gaming. Current rig struggles on some PS2 games, for example. This is not a multicore friendly use case and favors the Intel higher clocks and IPC. This is pretty important case for me since I have a backlog of retro games, my PS2 optical drive is on the verge of death and I really don't want to deal with finding functional original hardware. Photography - Adobe products. Mostly Lightroom. A little Photoshop. Lightroom in particular is very lame in the multithreaded dept and users have to jump through hoops to get stuff done in parallel. E.g. starting multiple image export batches is faster than one large export because Adobe doesn't implement parallel work in their expensive products So Puget Systems analysis suggests Intel is better here. - Some sort of image duplicate/similarity app. I use PhotoSweeper on my Mac and will need to find a Windows alternative. Basically a program to scan a directory of photos and group together the ones that are duplicates or visually very similar and present them in a nice UI that allows me to pick which ones to keep and delete. In theory this can be highly parallel and more I/O bound, but who knows in actual implementation. Individually, my use cases are pointing to Intel. But I'll probably be doing both: playing a game smoothly while waiting for Lightroom to process something. So I don't know if that changes the equation enough to point to an 8c/16t Ryzen 7 over say a 6c/12t Coffee Lake i7. I'm going to start with 16 GB of RAM, I think. I'll need to track my typical Lightroom and game usage to be sure. I'm not considering X-series or Threadripper. Those are probably overkill and probably over my budget.
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Hi guys I'm searching for a am4 CPU alternatives of ryzen cpu B350 am4 mobo I need a cpu with igpu An APU ????? Thanks for upcoming help Peace
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Hi guys How are you? Noob here My question is Are there any reasons to get the k version if I'm not planning to mess with over clocking ever. And what's exactly is the benifit/difference of over clocking over the turbo function that gets single and all core up to about 4.3-4.7 ghz No gaming for now, mostly non professional premiere photoshop etc... http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_8700k-763-vs-intel_core_i7_8700-764
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(Update in last comment) Hey guys, going to try to be as detailed as possible So I recently finished my new build (specs at bottom) and have noticed my CPU (i7-8700k) temps seem to be abnormally high with my CoolerMaster MasterAir Pro 4. For context, the CPU idles at 38-40C and gets to 80-85C in games like CSGO. In the more intensive games like R6:Siege, it even hits the low 90's and occasionally thermal throttles (not the whole time, just 1 spike every couple minutes). The room I'm in is not abnormally hot (~24C) and the 2 fans on the CPU are set to auto RPM (I hear them kick up when under load). The strange thing is, when I use the 100% CPU utilization stress test in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (picture 1) the temps simply oscillate in a healthy range and I can hear the fan RPM's go up and down with it. In Prime95 blend it hovers at 74C (acceptable imo) no throttling (picture 2). In Prime95 temp test, CPU instantly hits 100C and throttles the whole time at max 4.35GHz (vs 4.72 idle). I don't think it's a case airflow issue, as my GPU stays at a nice 60-70C no matter what I throw at it (idle 36). My guess: Maybe I messed up in the process of dropping the CPU cooler down onto the thermal paste (I didn't notice it being too bad, but I suppose it's possible). That or maybe with a single tower air cooler it's normal to experience throttling on super intensive games? Is it the single tower cooler doing the best it can, or does it seem from the performance that I've done something wrong? Thanks in advance! Specs: Fractal Design Define R5 2 Noctua NF-A14 FLX in front (push), 1 pull on rear of top of case, 1 pull on top of back of case (mobo exhaust) i7-8700k (stock speeds) CoolerMaster MasterAir Pro 4 w/ 2 Noctua NF-F12 PWM (push/pull) Arctic MX-4 paste ASUS Prime Z370-A Corsair LPX 2x8GB Corsair HX750 ASUS 1080ti OC
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Is this build compatible and is it good value for money? Already have a monitor. Mainly will be used for gaming and 3D modeling. Any upgardes or feedback greatly appreciated. PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kyVDGf Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kyVDGf/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($128.49 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 HD3 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($126.88 @ OutletPC) Memory: Kingston - FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($86.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.84 @ OutletPC) Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card ($148.89 @ OutletPC) Case: DIYPC - Ranger-R4-R ATX Mid Tower Case ($25.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair - VS 450W ATX Power Supply Total: $562.07 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.
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Hi friends, This community has been a wealth of knowledge for me and my building of my very first PC. I know this isn't the planning and building section but I wanted to ask people specifically about motherboards and perhaps RAM. My question is this: What do? I know absolutely N O T H I N G of motherboards. I was originally going to get the AORUS gaming 5 from gigabyte, but with further consideration and feedback, I shifted my build into the ASRock K6 even though once I began looking into building, I read that ASRock was a cheap ripoff of ASUS. What do you guys think? My prospective build is here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PmXkVY And for context, I will be using this PC for mostly gaming, and mixing & recording music using the pro tools software. I don't plan on overclocking anything immediately, but want the capability to do so when I feel more confident in that department in the future. Thank you! P.S.: I don't know if it really matters other than considering RAM clearance with my cooler, but what would you guys think about the RAM I chose? I have no opinion on brands of RAM so I'd rather ask you experienced fellows versus going in blind.
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Howdy friends, I'm building a new PC and, thanks to this community, I've gotten a lot of excellent feedback. I wanted to ask a few specific questions pertaining to each part, however, and I thought asking in each particular board would be the best place to ask. So anyway, my question is regarding the 8700K I plan to purchase. As simple as I can make the question; Would I benefit from having the 8700K, or would the 8600K be closer to my needs? A bit of context; what I want to use this new PC for is mostly gaming, and I mix & record music using the pro tools software. Pro Tools would definitely benefit from the added beef of the 8700K, but I'm having doubts that it is a necessity to purchase it as my current PC (with a 3770K) works... decently in the software. I also don't plan on overclocking, but I want the capability to in the future in case I feel confident in doing so later on. My prospective build, for reference, is here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PmXkVY I know this isn't the planning new builds board, but I'm more concerned with answers regarding the CPU. I'm most concerned with the whole "should I shell out another $100 for this thing I may or may not notice a difference in" deal. And hyperthreading sounds incredible, is it worth the price tag? Thank you!
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From a bit of research I decided to go with the ASUS Z370 motherboard lineup for my 8700k (unless my research was wrong, let me know D;). But there's so many different ones, what are the differences and which one should I pick? Specifically the Z370-A, Z370-E and Z370-F. The price difference is pretty significant on some. Some things I need: > ATX > High-ish (water cooling) GPU and CPU overclock > 1x M.2 NVMe drive (Samsung 960 Evo 500GB) > 2x8GB 3200 MHz RAM (possibly upgrade to 4x8GB later)
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Does anyone know when Intel will launch Coffee Lake, i mean there are already motherboards that support it and Coffee Lake was supposed to launch on October 5th it's been bassically a month... What's going on?
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8700K clock speed fluctuating constantly
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It's fluctuating like mad at IDLE. It's at STOCK atm, lowered voltage to adaptive at 1.28v with offset of 0.03v, temperatures were waaaay too high for stock speeds so that's why I under-volted it. LLC is at L5. These are what I changed in the BIOS.- 37 replies
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I've been looking at Corsair's website, and I've looked at a lot of their power supplies. The problem is, their power supplies, every single one, says compatible with 6th Gen intel processors. Is this just a case of poor updating of their website or would it not be compatible with a coffee lake chip that is within the supported wattage?
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I decided to go for intel since i only do gaming & not streaming or video editing What would be good Z370 motherboard under 200 for an i5-8400?
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My local microcenter has the i5 8600k for 350 USD & the i7 8700 (Non K Variant) for 420 USD However on amazon, the i7 8700 is 350 USD instead of 420 USD which should i go for? I'll be using a gtx 1060 6gb & will be playing on 1080p 60hz/144hz
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So apparently hexa core models can boost all 6 cores, i5 8400 apparently has 2.8 GHz base clock and 3.8 GHz six core boost, if all cores can boost to 3.8 GHz then why is 2.8 GHz base clock?
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Ok so, If the rumors are to be believed and this is pure speculation. If the top consumer i7 is going to be 6 cores and 12 threads, and the i5 is going to be 6 cores.... does that make ... the i3 4 cores and 8 threads, and even further, does that mean the pentiums are going to be 4 cores? cause... jesus, lets talk about THAT SHIT for a minute
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What do you think about Intel coffee lake?
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It's coming soon. On 21 Aug. Will it faster than Ryzen? or it's just another joke from Intel? What do you think?- 49 replies
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Hello, I have a Core i5 6400 on a Z270 motherboard, which I bought because I presumed it would be compatible with Coffee Lake, which I was looking to upgrade to, considering it's speculated that it will be 30% faster. But now that it's been confirmed that Z270 will not support Coffee Lake, I am wondering between selling my CPU + motherboard and going Ryzen or upgrading to a 7700K, which would be a better choice? Thanks.
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Hi Guys, So in another thread I'm discussing the i5 1600x build I'm planning - which seems to be a good sweet spot for gaming price / performance currently. Do you think it's silly to build with that CPU now, knowing that Coffee Lake come out in the next month? My thoughts: Coffee lake won't be socket 1151, so the boards will likely be full price (most z270 boards are on a ~20% discount currently) A new chipset could mean a wait for coolers to be updated, pricing will likely follow as above Coffee lake will likely overclock very well if history shows us anything, whereas the 1600x is known to be stubborn to overclock past 4.0GHz Games and applications 'tend' to be better optimised for intel RX Vega looks promising, I imagine it'll work better with Ryzen? Discuss internet. 1600: 3 1600x : Coffee Lake: 2 Wait and see: 3
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Hi everyone Intel 8th gen CPU's are closer than we think. An article originally on Laptopmedia has shown Acers upcoming Swift 3 laptop, shipping with an i5 8250U. The credibility of the source seems legit since this laptop has been found in 3 different online stores across Europe. Whats quite exciting is that the mobile Intel i5 U chips will finally come with 4 physical cores, but without hyperthreading. This means that it should be faster than the Pentium G4560, all Kaby Lake i3's, the i5 U and HQ models, any i7 U model, as well as the i5 6400 and 6500 desktop processors. We would most likely see performance similar or higher than the Intel 7300HQ. For reference, the 7300HQ scores 514 on Cinebench. This is due to the U processors only having a 15W TDP, whereas HQ processors have a 45 TDP however, Coffee Lake is rumoured to have a 15-30% increase in IPC, so performance could be similar. Here's the link to the article: http://laptopmedia.com/news/intel-core-i5-8250u-is-coming-acer-swift-3-to-get-it-early/ Thanks for reading.
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https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/09/intel-to-unveil-8th-generation-core-august-21/ So,if you haven't heard Intel is set to release their "brand new" cpu line based on coffee lake. So...I was curious. What are all your takes on the new cpu launch? I'm honestly wanting to hear others thoughts To me...I bought an i3 6100 around March last year. Based on Skylake,it's a great chip and all,iv had no problems with it...but I am very budget oriented with my computer setups. I do hard research on my performance per $...wattage, longevity and ect. But what I look for most (and I'm sure others like me do as well) is upgradeability. I bought this chip with the incentive to eventually buy an i7 6700k,and upgrade my setup from there. But then..Ryzen struck and Intel got turned on it's head (from how I see it) So...after that,kaby lake launched,which I expected. I was still willing to buy from the Skylake range of processors,at this time they were still decently recent and we're still sold new. No problem,and then kaby lake X and Skylake X. I felt a bit slapped in the face,two new platforms in a very short amount of time,making my current system look older and older,and more likely for older processors (like the 6700k...) to become more scarce as a new product. As of now Skylake chips are still being sold new,but...now there's coffee lake. There's now three processor families,all with different sockets. Skylake and kaby lake,core X, and now. Coffee lake. Skylake chips are all in abundance now on eBay,and it's sad for people that ended up buying into a chipset and now not really getting a return for higher end chips for my current hardware. While...on the other end of the spectrum. The am4 platform is going to be supported for atleast the next 3 years (quoted from AMD's press conference pre Ryzen 7 launch) with all of this happening I am very inclined to sell my cpu and board and just buy into Ryzen. Intel's strange work with their processor line and (rushed?) new architectures are underwhelming from how I see it,and in ready to get off the Intel train. I'm curious about what you all think I love heated discussion? PS. No fanboying please ._.
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Some Thai youtube channel has leaked the upcoming, Acer Nitro AN515-31 laptop. The system is running on a Intel Core i7 8550u a quadcore with ht, running at 1.8ghz. 20gb of ddr4, and cost is around $752 dollars. With these ulv cpu at this price. Looks like performance based hexacore mobile coffeelake, will start in the $1500+ range? For roughly the same amount, you can get a i5 7300HQ or $50 more a Core i7 7700HQ, on a kbl base laptop. And these are performance class processor, not those power saving crap, like that 8550u. This asus laptop selling at microcenter. It comes with core i7 7700hq, 8gb ddr4, 256gb ssd, gtx 1050 2gb for $800. https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i7-8550u-spotted-in-acer-nitro-notebook Asus laptop http://www.microcenter.com/product/475522/FX53VD-MS72_156"_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black_Metal;_Intel_Core_i7-7700HQ_Processor_280GHz;_NVIDIA_GeForce_GTX_1050_2GB_GDDR5;_8GB_DDR4_RAM;_256GB_M?storeID=145&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9-PR85vL1QIVzbbACh0wRQZNEAQYASABEgJ04_D_BwE
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I am planning on building a gaming rig with coffee lake, specifically for playing project cars 2 on Oculus, and when I looked up benchmarks, the difference between an i5 and i7, and the difference between a 1080 and a 1080ti were both about the same. I can’t afford both an i7 and a 1080ti, so should I get an i5 8600k and a 1080ti, or an i7 8700k and a 1080? Thanks in advance for the help. Link to benchmarks: https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/project_cars_2_pc_performance_review/8 edit: I am not that interested in ryzen. I would already have one if I was.
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So I was planning on getting the ryzen 5 1600 until coffee lake came out. I wouldn't be doing much video making or live streaming if any and was not going to do too much overclocking. Mostly, I'm going to be using my computer for gaming and school work and maybe a bit of photoshop So, I was wondering, should I go with ryzen (Intel Build ) or Intel (Ryzen Build). The ryzen build also has quake champions and assassins creed origins. I was thinking of getting assassins creed if it got to maybe $30 USD and I don't really care for quake. Thanks!
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Linus, since at least Sandy Bridge it seems, has long felt that 4 core and 4 threads is all you need for a pure gaming machine (even using the 7600K in his RGB build guide), and for good reason. That has, for the most part, been the case for a long time. That said, Coffee Lake presents an interesting challenge to this idea. What was i5 is now i3, while the new i5 should perform similarly to an i7. This means that one of two things could come out of his review of the 8th-gen K SKUs in two weeks: Linus will declare the (likely sub-$200) i3 8350K to be the best value for gamers, sticking to his guns. This makes a lot of sense, as it could open the door for a GTX 1080 build at a great price, and the i3 might even overclock a little better. He'll start thinking about the current trends in newer games and see more value in i7 performance at an i5 price than in i5, and as such the i5 brand will remain king First of all, no, I'm not ignoring Ryzen. If Zen+ can increase clocks things will shake up again; however, realistically, Intel is just the king of gaming and Ryzen will need some serious price cuts soon. Hopefully this will change next year. Second, you're probably wondering why I'm making this thread now... Well, I just think it'll be more interesting to do it a little while before we see anything ant then later compare our predictions to reality. Of course, you can present another possibility and give your own prediction of what the top gaming CPU for the money of Holiday 2017. Then we'll see how it actually turns out. Personally, I see Linus & Crew going with option 1, at the very least up to 1070 Ti-based systems. However, assuming a price no higher than $270 US, I think that the 8600K will be the better choice for a system you want to last a long time; it could even be the true successor to the 2500K. And yes, it has two fewer threads than current i7s, but it should still pretty much match them in multithreaded workloads. The worse overclockability might hurt it though. If reports of 4.8GHz on all cores on air come to fruition, an overclocked 8600K could last a very long time. What do you think?
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