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Hello everyone, I started this new topic since I gave back my G910 Logitech with romer G switches and a left set of functional keys (right after TAB, Caplock etc,), and started looking around for new options. For now I stick with my Logitech K120 (<10€) office keyboard that is more than enough for now and serves the purpose of reserve, so I have time to choose the next main keyboard. My current setup My personal laptop on the right, an old glorious MSI GE60, sitting with its bottom opened on a Cooler Master Notepal XL My working laptop on the left, a Thinkpad E480 sitting on a Cooler Master Notpeal 3, An AOC 24'' an AIMOS SWITCH HDMI KVM so that I can link main screen, mouse and keyboard on the "active" computer with a switch. My usual activity Coding: on a daily base I am (or try to be) an IT consultant: sometimes I code (python or C#), sometimes I use SQL so having stuff that allow you to do quick selections (like Ctrl+End) is handy, and I like having F5 and F10 separate from numeric keys Studying: I usually had to use R, Python and Latex so I was considering adopting left lateral keys for macros Typing I seldom use the right numeric keyboard to type special characters like "«" or "»" (ALT+0171/0187), "~" (ALT+196). I never could do this with the top line of numbers above the QWERTY zone. Gaming (sadly, not so much lately and not competitive) I don't have a powerful pc (maybe I'll be able to take a Lenovo Legion 5 Pro this year), but I don't have much time for games, so I seldom play at Warframe, Hades or MtG arena right now, Again I used the left lateral keys (G1, G2... G) for customized commands. Media control I liked to have volume control right on the keyboard, but I survived before My need is then for a keyboard that is robust, that allows to code, study and game, that can be linked to the switch so I can use it both from personal and work computer. Note: I also have the Logitech K780, that allows to switch between three BlueTooth devices, but I cannot connect it to my two pc at the same time (switching from one to another). My first initial look was towards the G915, since it's wireless, good looking, still has addressable RGB, and more modest lateral frame (I don't have much space) than the G910 used to have. Given the price though, I started considering smaller form factors: there's the option of G915 of the TKL, but I'd lose the left side buttons. I started looking at other keyboards, like the Glorious GMMK, YUNZII, KEYCHRON, VERMILO etc. Aside from the price (in certain cases it's too high, like the GMMK) I noticed that when you go for smaller sizes, there's almost no chance to have left side set of custom buttons. My questions I'd like to know: is there a layout like a 75% keyboard like this but with a left set of buttons like the G910? If not, what would you suggest to do? Are there "budget" solutions for left side numerical keypads that I can customize?
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Ok, I know it is impossible to make it completely silent, but are they quieter than normal reds? I am currently searching a keyboard with red silent switches because, well the name says, they are silent and I really don't like sounds of keyboards so I am searching for the one that is quiet. I am asking because I can't really find them that much, and when I find them, they usually are expensive or doesn't have lighting which I need (I am not talking about RGB, I just want static lighting) or doesn't have numpad. Are they worth it? And if yes do you know any cherry mx red silent keyboards with numpad and lighting (I really like Red but any color would work)?
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Hello everyone! I am wondering how exactly do I get a soldering station to mod keyboards. Are there any videos or articles on how to change switches on keyboards? I was mainly thinking of changing my brown switches to Cherry MX Red. I probably not do it right now, but I was wondering how, and if I need any infrastructure, and if it is expensive. So basically, I want to know where to get a soldering station, and if it is expensive, and where can I get red switches, because I have not been able to see clear red switches for sale anywhere.
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Cherry MX Black (Re-Tooled) - Really Gold Standard?
jiyeon posted a blog entry in Sowon's Switches Reviews
The Cherry MX Black is arguably one of if the best modern Cherry switch to ever be created, the vintage kind of which is one of the most sought-after linear switches ever for its unbeatable smoothness, and ironically is labelled Cherry's best switch despite being made a few decades ago. There is a lot of debate online about what year would qualify a Cherry Black to be vintage, but generally from what I've read online, any Cherry Black switch found inside a board that was manufactured from before 1990 is considered a board with vintage Cherry Blacks inside of it. Today though, I have non-vintage, re-tooled Cherry MX Blacks with me. I have used these Cherry Blacks for around two weeks now and here are my opinions and experiences with my time using the Cherry MX Black. For reference, my daily keyboard uses 67g Tealios V2s lubed with Tribosys 3204 resting on a brass plate. The board I used with the Cherry Blacks in uses the Cherry Blacks lubed with Krytox 205g0 and a carbon fiber plate, so my experiences with the Cherry Black might differ from others due to the plate material, lubing, and even keycaps difference. When I first got my Cherry Blacks, I was curious as to how they would feel, as I've been advised online that re-tooled, modern Cherry Blacks feel vastly scratchier and much more inconsistent than vintage Cherry Blacks due to how much re-molding the Cherry Black has gone through. Unfortunately, this was the case with me, as immediately as a loose switch, when I pressed down on the switch, it was really scratchy. It had about the same scratchiness as YOK Pandas, which are notoriously scratchy switches in my experience. Even stock Gateron Yellows beat these in smoothness. I opened up the switch and the material wasn't actually that bad, but it was clear how rough and unpolished the material was compared to Gateron housings. Prior to purchasing the Cherry MX Black, I knew it was going to be a heavy switch from reading the force curve. At a perceived 60g operating point, and an 80g bottom-out, it was going to be a workout for my fingers which were used to switches that bottom-out in the 60g region. After opening up the switch, I took a look at the stem, as I always do. Its material is fairly decent, with some minor roughness. It's a pretty standard linear stem with defined stem legs, as with all other MX linears on the market which use the same stem design. The material of the stem doesn't compare to the smoothness of other switches such as Gateron Ink Blacks or Zeal's high-end Tealios V2 switches, but it's decently smooth, and I'm sure people would not complain about it if they were obliged to use a Cherry Black. I believe what contributes more to the abundant scratchiness of the Cherry Blacks - even after lubing - is the housing. The housings are definitely rough and course, especially when compared to something like Gateron housings. The bog standard stem combined with the 'eh'-quality housing is in my experience what makes the re-tooled Cherry Black a scratchy switch. Typing on the Cherry Blacks was in all honesty, a pretty shameful experience. I lubed my Cherry Blacks with Krytox 205g0 - with a single Cherry Black lubed with thinner Tribosys 3204 lube to go into the Escape key - and every time I wanted to use them, the prominent scratchiness and sheer resistance of the spring was something I could not bond with. While it was a nice novelty to be able to daily run lubed Cherry Blacks, I did not find the typing experience throughout the two weeks I spent with them fun, and always found myself going back to my main board with Tealios inside them as I found the Tealios better-weighted and tenfold smoother. Do I recommend the re-tooled Cherry Black? No, I don't. It's far too scratchy for what it is, and the weight is a mountain to overcome. I would much rather purchase another alternative linear such as Gateron Yellows or even Gateron Ink Blacks, as those two switches are noticeably smoother than the Cherry Black even as a stock switch, and lubing both of those options will lead to an even greater smoothness that the re-tooled Cherry Black can never achieve. Sorry Cherry, but your gold standard is just a scratchy linear. -
Cherry Bullet is a new-generation girl group under FNC entertainment, who house artists like AOA and FT Island. Their debut album 'Let's Play: Cherry Bullet' features their titular track 'Q&A' which FNC hopes can encapsulate the public in their cuteness. Cherry Bullet's concept is video games hence the abundance of pixels, 8-bit icons, and sound effects in their music videos, and obviously their music. Today I'll be listening to Q&A alone, but the entire album also has two other tracks on it which I wasn't particularly interested in, and decided to focus on Q&A on its own as I have much to talk about. 0:02 - I love the 'Q1... Q2... Q3... Q4' adlib in the back to give the main vocal some body and not have the composition be so flat, as the instrumentals are very muted so far. 0:18 - Vocal explosion, there's so much natural reverb and echo in the high notes and it's amazing to hear, it's a good contrast from the bland and subdued tone of the intro. 0:26 - I love that the adlibs continue with the earlier rhythm but this time with a lot more happening in the instrumentals to really amp up the volume and energy. 0:34 - This pre-chorus has a cheerleader vibe to it, I also love that they continue with the harmonized adlibs and also keep those subdued instrumentals, it emphasises the sweet and bubbly voices of the girls singing. 0:43 - There is the explosion of pop and color I was anticipating. There's so much rich vibrant airy sparkly instrumentals combined with the sweet and innocent vocals from the girls which is an awesome contrast to the suppressed and shy composition of the first verse. 0:59 - I love this little "dadadada" bit as it's very catchy and easy to sing along to, it's a memorable note in this extended chorus. 1:16 - I like that this second verse resembles the first verse's composition but this time with more energy happening in the actual lyricism and the vocals. Where the first verse built up the hype and energy slowly, this second verse is more soulful and heartfelt singing yet stil combined with that subtle and smooth instrumental. 1:40 - I love the choice to put another member do this chorus. It catches the listener off guard because you typically expect the same person to do the chorus but they chose to make another member sing to spice the second chorus up and prevent it from being too stale and repetitive, even though the song itself is admittedly very catchy. 2:14 - This bridge is nice and calming compared to the heavy hitting bubbly vibes from the earlier verse and the choruses which is nice as it showcases the vocal ability of the girls, and also gives us the listeners some breathing room so we're not too choked in the cuteness of it. I also love the use of reverb to realy give the vocals some body and heart to make the singing here feel very wide and open to give this bridge an airy feel. 2:30 - Again with the cheerleader vibes, this is such a preppy and prominent bridge because of the harmonisation from the girls, they're all in sync and the instrumental dips are even synced up with the ends of the girls' lyrics to give the vocals some more impact and punch. 2:47 - This final chorus is so great as it has all the cuteness and bubbliness from the previous choruses with the addition of some minor adlibs from the girls just to spice up this final chorus hit one last time. I absolutely love this debut song. Q&A is so bubbly, cute, and fun which is exactly what I'm into, so Cherry Bullet's debut song is right up my alley. I love the chord progression in the song with how stable the energy buildup is. The vocal ability of the girls is so great too, I love how talented their voices are yet they're all still very youthful. I'll definitely be following this group if their song concepts follow the some formula as Q&A, it's a mix of their concept style and their feminine and pure voices that makes me enjoy their music. Especially with the sparkly and vibrant instrumentals to add to the already shiny and bubbly composition.
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The MX Brown is the last of the Cherry originals, its siblings being the MX Blue and MX Red, a clicky and a linear switch respectively. The MX Brown is the tactile switch that completes the trifecta of Cherry's flagship switch line. I personally prefer linear for its smooth actuation, and tactile for its actuation indication, and unfortunately the MX Brown isn't tactile at all. It's almost a linear. I describe it as a Red with a food baby. The bump is so minimal, yet it is just enough to let you know that you've gone past the actuation point. Taking a look at the stem, the legs are where the tactility is created. The small, tiny little dip in the legs that even my phone - that I used to take a photo of this stem - can barely detail it. While this particular stem that I have extracted from a Gateron Brown is particularly smooth, I imagine the likes of Cherry's Brown stems share the same characteristics. Next up is the force curve of the MX Brown. The bump's peak force is around 55g with the actuation point at around 45g, and around 0.75mm away from the actuation bump. That's a large gap in delay between the bump and the actuation. While this wouldn't be noticeable in real world usage, I assume for those whom don't often bottom out will have to get used to the late actuation. I'd be inclined to think I confirmed a keystroke once I experienced the tactile bump. The MX Brown is a tactile switch which also has the softest tactile bump of any tactile switch I have used. ZealPC's 62g Zealios being the most tactile switch I have ever used, with the sharpest, most pronounced, most detailed tactile bump I have ever used, and also with the bump being directly at the top of the keypress with no pretravel. You could read my Zealios review here: Another notable tactile switch I have used is the YOK Purple Trash Panda, which uses the same concept as the Zealios V2, sharing the same characteristics with the tactile bump being at the top of the keypress. Despite the Purple Panda being scratchier, I still prefer it due to the sharper tactility. You can read my YOK Purple Trash Panda review here: While the MX Brown is Cherry's flagship tactile, I don't feel like it deserves the moniker. It's barely tactile. While it does have a slight bump that allows the user to indicate when they have pressed a key, it's far from the standard of tactility that I expect from a tactile switch.
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The MX Blue is a part of the iconic trifecta of original Cherry MX switches next to its siblings the Red and Brown, as well as their distant relatives, the Clear and Black. The MX Blue is the flagship clicky switch manufactured by Cherry and cloned by the likes of Gateron, Kailh, and Outemu, but what they all have in common is the same mechanism, the click jacket, to generate their tinny, wimpy, dissatisfactory click. The main draw towards opting for a clicky switch such as the MX Blue is the click jacket mechanism, this two-part stem made up of the main MX-style stem (in blue) and the plastic jacket (in transluscent white) to make up the switch. In theory, this is actually a genius design, but falls short as the two-part design creates hysteresis, delaying upstroke and for some people, slowing down their typing speed and/or gaming reflexes, as the delayed upstroke will be costly to those who are in need of fast keystrokes. Not to mention the click being tinny, short-lived, and weak, this switch fails to satisfy me when other excellent clicky switches like the Kailh Box Jade with its gorgeous-sounding click bar exist. As a fan of linear switches, this switch is extremely disorienting to use, the hysteresis delaying the upstroke as well as the jacket interrupting the downpress is just not fun to use. Taking a look at the force graph of the MX Blue, we can see where the pressure is applied and where the click is exerted, as well as the reset and hysteresis evident on the upstroke. The click is around 60g with the operation at around 50g, so this is a fairly medium switch compared to the other switches such as Reds and Blacks. The MX Blue is one of the most famous switches in the mechanical keyboard scene, and I would actually bet that most people would refer to this switch if they were asked what a mechanical keyboard is. The signature click of the MX Blue is what gives clicky switches a bad time, and that is sincerely disappointing as the MX Blue is easily the worst-sounding switch as well as the worst switch to use in general, with its inconsistent actuation and evident delay on the upstroke. Lube does not help the Blue either, as even lubing only the sliders will suppress the click and take away the switch's only redeeming quality. I would not recommend this switch for anybody as it's an all-around terrible switch, instead, if one is looking for a Kailh Box Jade, I definitely recommend the Kailh Box Jade, which I have reviewed previously, and can read here.
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The MX Red is one of the most iconic switches thanks to Cherry, the German mechanical keyboards and switches manufacturer famous (or infamous depending on how you look at it) for their MX Red, MX Brown, and MX Blue switches, which are linear, tactile, and clicky switches respectively. Today we'll be taking a look at the MX Red, this particular model specifically from Gateron, a manufacturer of switches whom have cloned Cherry's MX Red design and made their own edition, coined the Gateron Red. The MX Red is a linear switch as mentioned before which means there is no interruption in the actuation, meaning the keyswitch goes straight down when you press on it. Thanks to WASDkeyboards for providing the force curve chart below, we can see the actuation force of the Red is around 45g, and bottoms out at around 65g. This is a particularly light switch that is catered towards gamers who require quick actuation, so a 45g actuation force 2mm down on the switch is preferable for competitive gaming scenarios. Opening up my specific Gateron Red switch, the material is extremely smooth and the feel of the switch can attest to that. The stem legs are smooth which allow the leaf to cleanly slide along the stem legs. However for my tastes, I find using the Reds as stock to be scratchy, this is hard to explain for those who have not used lubed switches. My favorite analogy is rubbing your arm dry versus rubbing your arm with lotion applied. While the Reds are subjectively smooth when stock, the smoothness is accentuated greatly when they are lubed. I lubed my Reds with Tribosys 3204 and they both sound and feel extremely smooth, greatly improving upon the stock scratchiness. I would personally even rate the smoothness when lubed above something like a NovelKeys Cream. Personally, I am only comfortable using Reds lubed, as I find using them stock to be a bit too scratchy for my tastes, but at stock, they are bearable. They are not the smoothest linear I have ever used but they are also not the worst, although making a non-smooth is a difficult bar to clear. As a mainstream switch and probably the most well-known linear on the market, the Red is a fantastic choice for those who are after a smooth and swift typing experience. While they are a touch too light for me to use, I do enjoy the smoothness and the lightness is rather inviting when playing games that require that quick actuation. For people that want something heavier, I recommend the Yellow or Black switches, as those are a bit heavier than the Red whilst still retaining the smoothness of the Red. Otherwise, the Red is a great switch choice.
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I have a budget of about 135$ Im looking for a Cherry mx blue keyboard with a good quality, no gimmicks, and back lighting, id like rgb, but can live without. What are some options for me? Btw ive heard Razer is just a brand name people buy, not the best quality ive heard.
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Hi guys i want your help on picking a Cherry mx Blue keyboard(not a clone)my budget is around 50-80 $ and i want it not to be tenkeyless and i have a black white and light brown setup so dont suggest something with only red(Corsair Strafe etc.)but blue green and white are fine and i dont need rgb but i would be nice still and maybe a very cheap real cherry mx blue keyboard without backlighting.Thanks for your help!
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I am having a lot of trouble having to find a good keyboard that has what I need. Here is what I will need in the keyboard I am looking for: - Cherry MX Blue switches (MX Blue mock-off's can work too) - RGB Lighting - Media keys (Simillar to Corsairs, but regular keys can work too) - At least one USB hub - Non-plasticy build - Full 104 keys - Under $170 Optional requirements - Wrist rest - Dedicated software - Mic and Headphone audio in What I don't want - Extra macro keys - Aggressive gamer fonts
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This is a poll to see what Cherry MX switches you guys use. I use Blue's and want to see what the most popular switches are.
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Hi, I like ur Keyboard Comparison Videos but what I miss on all videos is a objective Comparison in Terms of Reaction Time. Cherry says their Real Key Feature is the best on the market and that most keyboards reaction times is about 20 ms. But I have never seen objective tests where Real Key is compared to other Keyboard Manufactures. I play fps games and I know its not a big difference but this would definitely influence my buy decision. I dont know how u think about that. Would like to hear ur opinions on that. Thank you in advance. Cheers Konstantin
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I currently have a Logitech K120, and am looking to upgrade. My budget is around $50. I want a keyboard with switches that have some feedback, like Cherry MX browns, but I don't need them to be made by Cherry. Just something that feels like it. Anything would be a huge upgrade from my current keyboard, though. I don't want RGB, but backlit is definitely preferred. Thanks in advance.
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Guys. I need to get suggestions from you real quick. Actually, there is a sale going on in my place. The keyboards on discounted sale are TT esports Meka Pro with cherry Mx blue switches and TT esports Poseidon z rgb with kailh blue switches. Both of them cost the same. But the cherry MX blue one has only 2-year warranty. And the Kailh blue one has 5-year warranty. Can you suggest me which one to choose? Which one is more reliable? Any personal experience sharing is an added bonus.
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Just curious, why/how does Cherry let other clone switches like Kailh and Outemu exist? Wouldn't Cherry have patented their designs and squashed the clones, forcing other switch makers to add more variation rather than making cheaper clone MX switches?
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I need help finding a keyboard. I like the blue switches or click kind, and would prefer a volume wheel and wrist rest. I would be fine without those specifications, but they would be nice to have. I would like to have a black keyboard that can have RGB or back lighting for gaming if possible, but I can't find any that are good or worth their price. Any suggestions would be nice. Thank you.
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Hi, I am looking for a new mechanical keyboard. I currently have a corsair k30 raptor, with rubber dome switches. Im going to get a new keyboard with cherry mx switches. I am undecided still on what switches I should get but I doubt that will influence my options. This keyboard should be RGB, with authentic cherry switches, be tenkeyless and must have a sturdy build. I am thinking about a Coolermaster Masterkeys Pro S. I just wanted to get other peoples' opinion on the options. Maybe I get a corsair k60; I'm not sure. I am looking for a durable and solid feeling keyboard. I am also probably going to mod it with translucent with ninja printing (side printing, not on the top of the key cap) and possibly installing o rings depending on the switch. Thank you for your input.
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Hello guys, I’ve been using the wireless Apple keyboard with the iPad Pro for a few months now when writing on the go but it just doesn’t have the same feel as mechanical switches. Can anyone recommend a small mechanical keyboard to use on the go??
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Hi all, I'm looking for my first mechanical keyboard, and after watching numerous videos, I have settled on the Cherry MX Blue switches. I like the loud click sound of the MX Blue switches, and I like a deep press, but not enough to get finger fatigue. I do video editing and light gaming, but I need a number pad, as my dad is a banker. Due to the vast amount of mechanical keyboards out there I'm not quite sure on what to get. I have a couple of preferences on what I would like: Cherry MX Blue switches Corsair Full size (Not 10 key-less) Under $100 Available on amazon.co.uk I've had a bit of a look, but would like your opinion if you own one already. Cheers, Sam.
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As the title entails, i'm searching for an aftermarket set of rubberised keycaps for my corsair strafe rgb, I can't find anything like this on the internet but i'm sure it exists somewhere, does anyone know where i can find something like this? (and by rubberised i mean they have the same coating as the corsair m65 pro or nzxt s340 elite (The only examples i have))
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Hi, I'm living in germany, but want to buy an Cherry MX Board 9.0 does anyone know where I can get one?
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Hi everyone, I have been a user of the corsair k70 rapidfire for over a year now. Very happy with it, I think it's by far the best keyboard I've ever used (and I used quite a lot as a software engineer). My only complaint if I had one, would be that the wrist rest is a little small but not a big deal. Anyway, yesterday I also got a new keyboard for work. And I got the K70 Silent. I thought It wouldn't be a huge difference with the rapidfire and it will be silent, which would be more beneficial for work. It arrived this morning and returned it the same day. I ordered another rapidfire instead. I was surprised there was such a big difference between the rapidfire and the silent. One of the biggest reasons I do not like the razer keyboards is because of their matte finish on the keycaps (subjective opinion). This k70 silent had to my surprise also a matte finish on the keycaps, which I was very surprised to see, since I love the almost glossy keycaps of the rapidfire I have. But the main reason why I returned it, is the feel. The rubber dome makes it feel less satisfying, and more importantly, even though the actuation force is also 45g on the cherry mx silent, they felt slightly more harder to press and None of the keys felt smooth when pressing them down as if they were slightly grinding on a rough surface. Is this a known thing? Anyone else here who experienced both cherry mx speed and silent who can share his experience? And also how come Corsair has different keycap finishes? How come this is nowhere mentioned? I checked online videos that compare the rapidfire with the Lux cherry mx red. And you can clearly see the difference, where the Lux has the mat finish and rapidfire doesn't. Anyone knew about this?