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Hello! So, well I fucked up my ROG rig reboot entry, and just decided to blow my savings on my computer. I could've built a new computer, brand spanking new, but for some reason, I am indebted to this platform, and wanted to build the King of DDR3 1366 system. So I got a socket replacement on the faulty CPU1 socket, replaced the dimm slots and pcie slots myself, and basically ended up with a functional lga1366 system. Additionally, thanks to more electronics waste recycling operations around campus, I was able to get my hands on two FUNCTIONAL xeon x5690s! I was able to get them to overclock stable to 4.3ghz with 1.34vcore, 1.325vtt, and a bunch more settings, but here's where I run into an issue. The SR-2 only allows cpu bus speed overclocking, which means I have to turn the ram setting down to 1066 to keep it at 1333mhz. However, the SR-2 is also extremely shitty at initializing ram, and various forum posts tell me that turning the ram setting down to 1066 prevents it from posting to 96gb at all times. I had to hunt down specific model and make of ram in the first place to get it to post reliably with 96gbs, so this is a massive killer. This is exactly the behavior I'm facing: if I go down to 1066mhz, I cannot post at all with anything over 24gb a socket. However, with 48gb total, I can post fine, and am stable on prime95 for 12 hours(couldn't test longer, fucking fire alarm went off in the dorm!) So therein lies the answer: I must overclock my ram to 1600mhz. However, I have absolutely zero experience overclocking ECC MEMORY, especially DDR3 ECC MEMORY, so I would like some help. The current 1333mhz timings are as follows: 9 9 9 24 10 107 5 4 5 20 1 0. Thanks to the secret sauce article, I got it to 9 9 9 24 10 107 5 4 5 20 2 3. Do you guys have any suggestions on exactly what values to change to which for 1600mhz? Thanks!
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So I can't afford a new CPU at all and started to notice a slight bottleneck in recent CPU intensive titles. There is also slight wear on my HDD so that doesn't help either. But determine to get that extra bit in games I set off as normal read all the articles on non-k overclocking and most of the articles just said something along the lines of either "it can't be done" or "the improvement can't be that much". And what I had read on forums seemed to confirm that. All of my tests are using the stock cooler too. So I ran userbenchmark to get a base line reading (using the Asus optimal configuration) on April 3rd 2017 and the result was nothing to write home about not the worst reading to the i5 4440 but also not the best. After playing around a little with the settings in the UEFI to see the limits of my hardware I managed to used the BCLK to overclock my CPU on the second run to be considerably faster but had to dial the BCLK back a little as it seemed to prevent any worth while ram overclocking as well as causing occasional crashes. So the same day I redid the overclock and on the 3rd run got this result. And finally today I ran the last benchmark to make sure everything was stable and it is. Below is the link to ark for the i5 4440 and a few images to show CPU speed. below is ark for the 4440 and a few images showing core speed. including one uncropped with a timestamp for now so any doubt is cast aside. http://ark.intel.com/products/75038/Intel-Core-i5-4440-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz EDIT:Fixed wrong link
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Hello, long story short I just have overclocked my i5 6500 to 4.7ghz, it is pretty stable with one catch.. 1.43Vcore in bios and cpuz shows core voltage 1.44 and hwinfo shows between 1.432 lowest and 1.448 top. Idle temp is between 30-40C while web browsing. Temperature never went over 60C with corsair h115i in quiet mode. There was only one time for 65 C which was just a spike for a milisecond that is all, under heavy load with prime95 for two hours it did not go over 60C. Is there any risk frying to CPU with this temperature values ? Motherboard: MSI z170a gaming pro. PSU Zalman LX 600W
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Hi, I have decided on a newer intel computer. My issue is that I want to play all games well over 60 fps and I will be doing live streaming and video editing. I was wondering what are you're suggestions for my cpu. I don't want to pay 330$ cad for an i5 8600k plus an after market cooler if its only going to give me a small edge over the 8400. And is it possible to overclock a i5 8400 with bclk? thanks
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After OCing my i5 6500 CPU to 4.4Ghz, I could visibly see the increased scores in commonly used CPU benchmarks such as 3dmark and Cinebench. But I noticed L1 cache bandwidth dropped nearly 75% after OC as I checked it on AIDA64 and SiSoftware Sandra. Although lantencies at all levels got better (they all decreased) but that bandwidth drop is just too much to just pass by. I'm concerned if this is going to make gaming performance not any better or even worse. It will be very much appreciated if I could get to know how someone who knows well about the CPU architecture and stuff thinks about this. Thanks in advance.
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so im trying to overclock but it cant get past 34*. should i bring up bclk up in intervals of 10? or if anyone can recommend another solution. System specs: i7-2600k kingston 8gb ddr3 1333 mHz MSI Gaming GTX 980 Asus P8H67-M EVO 240GB ssd kingston hyperX savage EVGA 500w B Corsair H110i
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Hi guys, So recently I went into my BIOS and figured I'd try a BCLK overclock just to see what kind of a performance boost i would get but I couldn't find it anywhere on my Gigabyte GA-H97 Gaming 3 mobo, is it called something else or is it really just not an option on this motherboard?
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Hi, So, I read and I asked and still cant get straight confident answer to my question. Does overclocking BCLK damages the PC on 9th generation intel? , PCIE, USB..., as OCing it will also OC everything not only CPU and DRAM, is it safe, is it not?....!! Another question, what's the max I can get on 9th generation intel + z390 board?
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Hi, im running i7 9700 on z390 motherboard @4.5ghz - 4.65ghz depending on the game on Asus Z390 board. DDR4 16GB @3600mhz @1.4v. XMP pre-defined profile is setting BCLK @102.3, is it ok? i read that increasing BCLK will also increase PCIE and USB speed and damage them! what should i do? is it safe? what is the max safe BCLK i can use?
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Hi all Can someone explain this term and what is the function for me? BCLK = base clock? FCLK = ?? Vcore = ? VTT = ? VDIMM = ? VCCSA = ? VDDNB = ? VRM = ?
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Will overclocking the BCLK improve the performance of VR USB devices such as Oculus sensors? This question has been nagging at me in the back of my mind. I know that overclocking from the BCLK technically overclocks your whole system even your USB controllers.. so I'm wondering if that'd hurt or improve the performance of high bandwidth USB devices such as Oculus sensors with motherboards that are on the low end of supporting them like maybe an 1150 socket motherboard with regular USB 3.0. Just for the sake of science I'm wondering. Has anyone tested this? Even if not, what are your thoughts? It wouldn't be something that's necessary as you can just buy a USB card in that situation, but I'm debating on whether or not I should do an experiment with this.
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Just curious, before I invest in a new motherboard for overclocking, I am currently planning on overclocking a bunch of LGA1151 chips, and I wanted to hear the opinions of several users with experience on this topic! I am fully aware that you can run 8th and 9th gen parts on a Z170, as overclockers pretty much exposed Intel for lying about the reason for segmentation. So, my question is, for cpu frequency, is there any particular motherboard that goes for it the best? I usually prefer Asus, however I am also considering the Asrock Z170M OC Formula as well (and of course, any boards y’all recommend). What I do, is overclock purely for cpu frequency, stability is next to none . Pretty much, I need a motherboard that can overclock the highest for cpu frequency. Generally I overclock through software in windows 7 as that has yielded the highest clocks for me, so for that I WILL NEED 2x USB 2.0 ports as well as at least 1x PS/2 port (keyboard or keyboard/mouse). If there is no USB 2.0 ports, there needs to be at least 1 USB 2.0 header on the motherboard so that I can use a header for it. It is also a bonus if the motherboard has a third party controller (such as ASMedia) for some USB ports (can be USB 3.0/3.1) so that it is not handled by the chipset or the cpu, because BCLK will affect the USB ports attached to the chipset. I prefer a motherboard with AT LEAST 8 phases to the cpu and AT LEAST 2 phases to the RAM, but of course, more is better. I require a Z170 because it is the least restricted in terms of overclocking, and has the most compatibility with Windows 7. So with all that being said, any recommendations? Thanks in advance! EDIT: I have no set budget for it, so long as the motherboard isn't in the range of over 500$ USD.
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Only X99/Z170 chipset based motherboards officially support DDR4 DRAM / CPU overclocking As we know, only X99 and Z170 chipset based motherboards can support DDR4 DRAM overclocking. Using a normal Z170 Bios as an example, users would see lots of DDR4 DRAM overclocking options. To make sure that nothing goes wrong while overclocking the DDR4 memory, loading XMP setting is always the best way so that users won’t be bothered by those complicated memory configuration options in the BIOS. Intel H170 Series and bellow do not support any overclocking, but some do Asrock Hyper Series motherboards which can be found in Intel H-series/B-series chipset based motherboards which theoretically can NOT support any overclocking. However, with Asrock Engineers took a old trick, using a external PLL chip to go around this limitation. Personally loved those days where you had to hard mod a ppl to get extra clocks How a old PLL chip would work Lets take a system at that time and it was a KT133 mainboard (ENMIC 8TAX+), a Duron and 128 MB PC-133. I couldn´t get above 110 MHz FSB with this setup. This self made version of Turbo PLL allowed to run my system at speeds as high as 131 MHz FSB. While I didn´t use it long at these speeds, that was only because my harddisk didn´t like 44 MHz PCI speed. This is how it could look after: This obviously was a bit hard core and obviously not many would attempt it, aslo you would lose the warranty obviously. However, for Skylake CPUs, Asrock used a BCLK (PLL) and PCIe have a dedicated reference clock which always stays at 100 MHz – Even if you change the BCLK at very high clocks which basically means that you can push the BCLK without worrying about other components. With this little trick , Asrock Hyper Series motherboards can support DDR4 DRAM overclocking without any issues. Taking a careful look at this special feature, DDR4 DRAM overclocking can be achieved in 2 ways. Here below are 2 examples showing that how we can overclock the DDR4 DRAM with Asrock Hyper Series motherboards. D4-2133 CL10-11-11-31 2T 1.35V 2 x 8GB Dual Channel Mode In DDR3 generation, D3-2133 CL10-11-11-31 used to be a very popular spec with its great price/performance ratio. However, 1.65V is always necessary to keep the memory stable under the speed and the timings. It would sound like a dream if we could make D3-2133 CL10-11-11-31 2 x 8GB dual channel mode happen with merely 1.35V while this is 100% possible nowadays. Taking Asrock Fatal1ty H170 Performance/Hyper as an example, the following steps show the way to set up the memory. Get into the BIOS and select the page of “OC Tweaker”. Get into the page of “OC Tweaker” and set the option of “DDR4 Non-Z OC” as “SPORT+”. This is a very important step which keeps the system stable when the memory is highly overclocked. Get into the page of “DRAM Configuration” to set up detailed configurations of the memory. As the following screen shot shows, we set the DRAM frequency as D4-2133 and set the DRAM primary timings as 10, 11, 31, 2 thus the memory will work at D4-2133 CL10-11-11-31 2T. As for the “Secondary Timing”, we leave these settings as “Auto”. Very important last step, DRAM Voltage set as 1.35V. After previous steps of configuration are done, just save changes and exit the BIOS. Let’s see if it works well and if there is any performance improvement. For the stability test, Hyper PI 32M with the configuration of processors set as 16 is an easy way to find out if the system can still work well when the memory is highly overclocked from D4-2133 CL15 up to D4-2133 CL10. For performance we ran Sandra memory Bandwidth and MaxMem benchmarks. Long in short, this is the easiest way for users to get memory performance increase D4-3000 CL15-15-15-35 2T 1.35V 2 x 8GB Dual Channel Mode For most overclockers, or even gamers or general users who wants something better than standard JEDEC memory products, though D4-2133 CL10-11-11-31 2T 1.35V 2 x 8GB dual channel mode is pretty impressive, they won’t be satisfied until the memory speed reaches D4-3000 which sounds much better than D4-2133. Taking Asrock Fatal1ty H170 Hyper as an example once again, the following steps show the way to set up the memory. Get into the page of “DRAM Configuration” so we can set up detailed configurations of the memory. Set the “BCLK Frequency” as 140.6 first. Check the DRAM Frequency, the option of DDR4-2998 will appear once the BCLK Frequency is set to be 140.6. Now, set the DRAM Frequency as DDR4-2998. After setting the DRAM Frequency as DDR4-2998, we go and set the Primary Timing and the Secondary Timing as “15, 15, 35, 2” and “24, 540, 7, 5, 11, 4, 10, 33, 12”. It is extremely important that the motherboard may not be able to boot up if any of these settings is left as Auto. DO NOT forget the last step, please set the DRAM Voltage as 1.35V and the CPU’s voltage should be increased as well. However, every CPU has different overclocking capability thus there isn’t any existed standard telling us what exactly the CPU’s voltage should be. The only rule is, please keep the CPU’s voltage under 1.4V in case of any possible damages occurred. Again, let’s do some benchmark and check if the system is stable enough and if there is any performance improvement after the memory is highly overclocked from D4-2133 CL15 up to D4-3000 CL15. As the following table shows, the performance increase is awesome! The percentage of the performance improvement we’re talking about here isn’t single digit like 3% or 5%, we’re talking is more than 30% to 50% performance increase! No too bad for free performance boost Also for those who wonder about gaming performance which is a bit more dependent on the GPU, we still see almost 10% increase on 3Dmark11 using a PowerColor RX480 Red Devil. In conclusion, what's needed to overclock a nonK CPU? First of all, since we are overclocking entirely using the bus, a good set of memory sticks are highly important, I went with GeIL EVO FORZA D4-3200 *CL16-16-16-36 1.35V* 2 x 8GB and it worked amazing, just got limited by my I5 32W. Even for users (in case my friend who's not so interested in high overclocks) it's still a good pick as it provides the flexibility for future upgrades. Comparing to the spec of D4-2400 which will soon become the standard spec since 2017 according to resources from the internet, the spec of D4-3200 won’t be out of date at least until 2018. You will need a motherboard that has the BCLK, which all Hyper series is known to have it. Even some other like Fatal1ty have it or at least had and now they don't officially advertise it, but if you see the Hyper branding on a Asrock model you know for sure they have. I hope everyone enjoyed and any questions, drop a reply under
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I have a gigabyte z170x ud3 mobo with 2133Mhz DDR4 ram installed. I read that you could overclock non-k processors like the i5-6400 by increasing the base clock. Do I need higher freq ram to do this? -
Hi, everyone. I have a Gigabyte Z170xp sli, an i3 6100 and a stock cooler in my system. I was able to overclock my CPU to 3.8 GHz. But when I boost the BLCK further, my Bios tells me that my settings are not compatible. The Turbo B-clock is supposed to let me overclock the BCLK up to 200Mhz, isn't it? and i can't get over 102.74Mhz. The temp should not be the problem for I set the CPU and RAM multiplier to the lowest (8). I also noticed that when I change the FCLK to 1Ghz, the computer freezes on intense load. Does anyone have the same problem? Can anyone help me? My Vcore by the way is set to 1.2V. My BIOS v.F6. Thank in advance.
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Hello everybody, I have a question about overclocking my haswell non K intel cpu. I currently have a intel core i5-4670 non k cpu and I would like to know to what freaquency it is safe to set my base clock. I have it currently overclocked to its max multiplier (x38) and a baseclock of 105 mhz, which gives me about 4GHz in total. Now I would like to know if it's safe to run my cpu like this and if I can set the bclk even higher, because everything seems very stable and my temps are pretty good (50 degrees under max load). Thanks in advance. Specs of my pc: -Intel core i5-4670 -Asus sabertooth z87 -8gb Vengeance DDR3 -Corsair RM 650 -nVidia GTX770
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I plan on upgrading from Sandy-Bridge to Sky-Lake this month (hopefully). i plan on selling off most of my old parts, my current PSU is a "OCZ ZX 850w 80+ Gold", i have had it for 4-years and had my computer running around 14 hours every day. (I have OC's of 3.7ghz on my i7-2600 (auto voltage), but normally just ran at stock speeds). I plan on buying a i7-6700k and overclocking it (it will have water cooling + I have good air-con). Do you think i should buy a new PSU? Do you think my OCZ would work smoothly with overclocking on Sky-Lake? (I heard something about capacitor stress with low quality PSU's?) In regards to motherboards, should I look for one that boasts about its overclocking capabilities and capacitors? or just get any one for its features and aesthetics?how much ($AUD) would be an acceptable OC'ing Board? for RAM I'm currently looking at the Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16. these will work well when i overclock my CPU? (I also plan on changing the bclk) You don't need to worry about RAM coolers these days right? bonus question: most Sky-Lake mobo's only have <6 sata ports, I have a bunch of storage drives (movies, saved stuff, uninstalled games), how much ($AUD) should I be spending to get a sata pci-e card (only needs around 4-ports)? -any input is appreciated -Sorry for bad english and grammar.
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I recently bought i3 6100, Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI, and Corsair Vengeance DDR4 2400. I found another thread on this forum saying that it was possible to OC locked skylake chips using an OC BIOS, so I downloaded the OC BIOS and got to overclocking. After some initial problems (I don't have a lot of experience :P), I finally managed to get 4.51 GHz on the core, at 1.35v. Now that's stable, and it's pretty great, but it introduced a couple of problems. First, the CPU temp seems to be stuck at 100 degrees in Windows. Second problem is that the computer posts, but refuses to boot if the iGPU is enabled. It boots just fine when it's disabled. I kinda need the iGPU because for x265 decoding (as you can see my GPU is quite old for x265). Any help regarding these issues will be appreciated. Another question, the CPU frequency used to vary with load before I OC'd. Now it just stays at max clock and max voltage. Is this normal and sustainable? Thank you!
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So I came across a good deal on a used e3-1230 v3 xeon chip on my local classifieds and was wondering if you could still Base clock (BCLK) overclock these older Haswell chips even after the Intel cracked down on overclocking non "K" Skylake chips loike the i5 6400 a few weeks ago. Anyone have any experience with overclocking these locked Haswell CPUs? Also, is a Z87/Z97 motherboard still required to OC these chips? Can the H87/H97 or B85 chipset overclock the similarly to way that people have done with the Anniversary Edition Pentium G3258?
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Hey I'm looking for somebody who knows a good troubleshooting method for hardware failure, which doesn't include replacing hardware. I've tried a maybe little harsh BCLK overclock. I made a 25% increase, and made it work by increasing the voltage on the VCORE, PLL, CPUVTT and RAM quite a bit. But I've a good CPU cooler, so my CPU went on about 90 Degre celsius, when testing in Prime95 for approx. 15 min. I concluded that is was fairly stable, and then I further tested the OC in BurninTest and 3Dmark. No failures or excessive high temps occured. After using my computer for some weeks with that Clock I think I could smell something burned. I then turned my clock and voltages back to standards. 1 day after I turned the clock back I experienced a "Blue Screen of Death", and then I'm pretty sure that it's a Hardware failure after my OC. I'm not that type of person who has a lot of old working hardware lying around, so I'm searching for a method/way to troubleshoot which component I've damaged. I hope some of you are able to help Thanks you Intel Core i7 3820 3.6GHz Asus Motherboard P9 X79 Pro EVGA Geforce 980 Ti Corsair Vengance 4x4Gb 1600MHz Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
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BCLK overclocking might finally become a reality after not too long ago, a overclocker going by the initials DJ managed to bclk a non-K Skylake processor via the bclk, on a SuperMicro C7H170-M motherboard. This motherboard along with a Skylake Core i3 is currently being sent to Anandtech to let them check it for independent verification, since DJ is actually associated with SuperMicro. Soon after words got out that SuperMicro can achieve overclocking via BCLK, other motherboard makers, followed and claimed they can do it too. With Asrock, Asus, both showing off their bclk results. Asrock with their Z170 Extreme 7+ achieveing a 135bclk overclock with air cooling. And Asus with their Maximus VIII Gene with a 152.8 bclk overclock achieved by elmor, who has ties with Asus. BCLK overclocking might come soon via a motherboard bios update. http://anandtech.com/show/9848/bclk-overclocking-intels-non-k-skylake-processors-coming-soon
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Post all of your best stuff here My 5.1 Submission! All 4 Cores still enabled. 183.24 BCLK, Haven't tested much further. @Jumper118@ProKoN@Lays@harrynowl@KingCry Also list all of your hardware you have used for it Going to create a document when there is enough "activity" https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gRPXPe-be6dG6__3xudRBFqsUJi5bDHKfmQnFAzFWaY/edit?usp=sharing SpreadSheet maintained by me and @arnavvr
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So, I bought a core i5 6600T. as far as raw overclocking goes, it is one of the best I have used. I am currently sitting at a 172 BCLK, going from 2.7ghz to 4.5ghz on the stock Intel cooler, in an Azza Z ITX case. It's voltage tolerance is superb, and there is minimal voltage leaking. However, i have a few problems I have noticed, and I would like to know if anyone else with locked Skylake SKU's are noticing the same thing. First of all, AVX gets disabled the moment I touch BCLK. Even if i go from AUTO to manually dialed in 100, it turns off. Anyone with an MSI Z170 board able to confirm if it happens to them too, or is this an Asrock exclusive pitfall? Secondly, my cache speed tanks the moment it ouch BCLK. If i leave it at auto, i get 820GB/s L1 cache. If i dial 101, it tanks to 650 GB/s. If i go 110, it goes all the way down to 180GB/s. Going to 150 brings it back up to 250 GB/s, but it is still a huge deficit compared to stock. Impact on gaming performance is minimal, but i dislike the damage it does to my bench scores. I am using an AsRock Z170 Gaming ITX/AC Fata1ity board if it helps.
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This question is mostly focussed on OC'ing GPU's. There are a lot of variations of the same GPU when you get a stock one. But when OC'ing, what is the effect of buying a card with a higher BCLK than others? (which are usually more expensive than the others). Also what is the effect of the Boost Clock? Image above are Stats from Stock Retail GPU's, Not Overclocked
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Hey guys, I have overclocked my 4770k to 4.285 ghz @ 1.275v , DRAM @ 1.55 (1632 Mhz) input - 1.9v bclk- 102mhz so, my pc takes 2 attempts to succesfully post and boot, sometimes it wont post at all ( code 00 - asus maximus vi hero) im worried about this sort of. Is this ok?
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