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  1. From Steve over at Hardware Unboxed/TechSpot. https://www.techspot.com/review/1450-core-i7-vs-ryzen-5-hexa-core/ So, this should be a fun one. My thoughts: This has been a roaming discussion point since the Ryzen 7 launched and some of the issues with 1080p Gaming. Obviously, there have been a lot of tweaks for a large slew of games to improve performance on the Ryzen CPUs, but there's still been a disconnect in how well games perform on the 1080 or 1080 Ti between Intel & AMD platforms. (1070 and below GPUs don't see this issue, as CPU demands increases as GPU demands do. There's a saturation issue for the super-high FPS processing.) With the launch of Skylake-X, the first run of Gaming benchmarks pointed to Skylake-X performing like Ryzen CPUs do in most gaming titles. Thanks to Steve's massive review, we can now see that's true. From the actual review, at stock speeds, the Ryzen 5 1600 is about 5% slower than the stock i7-7800X. With both OC'd, there is no difference. (See the last graph posted.) Stock differences is simply down to clock speed (Intel: 3.5 / 4.0 vs AMD: 3.2 / 3.6). What is important is that both the Ryzen CPUs and the Skylake-X CPUs use a "victim" Cache for the L3 and operate over a different core-to-core interconnect system compared to the 7700k. A few of us have conjectured, recently, that the issue with the 1080/TI class GPUs is actually some form of optimization that Nvidia has found with either the Ring Bus or the L3 Cache system on Intel's Sandy Bridge to Current platforms. This is why Skylake-X gaming performance is slower in a lot of cases with Skylake-X than the 7700k or even the previous X99 platform CPUs. It should be noted that the 7700k is still King. What design Intel is using for the Interconnect system is on the upcoming Coffee Lake CPUs is, thusly, going to be incredibly important. If they do switch to the new Mesh Interconnect, Coffee Lake could be a performance regression in Gaming. We'll find out about that here soon when Intel announces the product line. Considering that Infinity Fabric & Mesh are here to stay, it'll be interesting to watch AMD & Nvidia both approach Drivers for their GPUs over the coming years. They've spent a long time optimizing for Intel's architecture, but now it's all going in a very different direction. Last, but a Side Point: The L3 Cache/Ring Bus issue could actually explain AMD's "Finewine" issue. Nvidia's entire structure gives them a noticeable bump in FPS from specific optimizations (likely of the scheduler in software) of Intel CPUs. AMD GPUs end up better as they update to replicate that effect in each specific game. If that effect is around ~15%, it would explain "Finewine", Nvidia's generally better launches and the Theoretical vs Real Performance differences that happen in the Nvidia vs AMD GPU discussions. (AMD's compute is better at the same Gaming performance as Nvidia.) It'll be interesting to see if that is truly the case, as it would finally solve one of the hilarious oddities in the tech industry.
  2. It's nothing really major but AMD showed off their new logo for Vega. It looks kinda neat. Just 1 week away from SIGGRAPH and Vega launch, guys and gals! Source: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58462/amd-shows-new-radeon-rx-vega-logo/index.html What do you think of the new stylized logo? Do you like the old one better? Let me know in the comment below!
  3. The final pcper review is here: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-16GB-Air-Cooled-Review Very Interesting and worth a look! The Fallout 4 Benchmark was corrected everything else seems to be the same. And finaly from the professional standpoint it looks a bit better. Professional Benchmarks: Bonus: Nude Vega https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-GPU-and-PCB-Exposed ----------------------------------------------------- Old Post ----------------------------------------------------- Today pcper gave us a behind the scenes Livestream of their Vega Frontier Edition benchmarking and at the end we got a sneak peek of their gaming results. Please visit pcper.com tomorrow to get the full Story. I will link it here when it goes up! Here are some early gaming results. The benchmarks are not 100% done and more cards & productivity benchmarks will be added. Gaming: 2560x1440: Gaming 3840x2160: Source Video with some timestamps: 1:19h ethminer 1:36h excavator mining 1:42h gaming benchmark results 1:44:45h Ryan Shrout's closing thoughts The first half of the stream is missing. In my opinion the gaming results are not great. It will be hard to price Vega FX competitivly if it uses HBM and only performces a bit better than a GTX 1070.
  4. I'm having some trouble overclocking my ram. I just built a Ryzen rig and was able to OC it to 4.0 @ 1.375V. Before that and after so tried to OC my ram which is on the Asus QVL and rated at 3200. When I go into the bios and set the docp to 3200 and adjust the voltage, it won't "stick" after restarting. Yet the settings are saved to run it at 3200 but it's not actually running at 3200. Anyone else experiencing this issue? And yes I'm running the latest bios. Specs: Ryzen 1700x, Asus crosshair vi hero, g skill flare x 16gb 3200 Edit: I just tried to OC again and, at 3200 the pc shuts off after saving bios and restarts twice and boots on the third pass. But still running at 2400. So I tried 2933 then 2800mhz, but both made the pc restart once and boot on the second time. But everything still runs at 2400mhz.
  5. Hi, I have spent the best part of a few years saving up for a pc build the original build was an amd 860k paired with a gtx 750ti however when nvidia released its new cards I felt a 1050ti would be much better. I am now close to ordering parts and could probably afford to upgrade the 1050ti to a 1060 3gb. My question is although the CPU will bottleneck this card, by how much? would it still be worth upgrading the gpu? or should I stay with the 1050ti and upgrade cpu to 880k With money as the deciding factor it's either gtx 1060 upgrade or athlon 880k upgrade and a bit more ram Is this CPU still worth it in 2017, would intel be better? Many thanks in advance -Guy
  6. Hey, everyone. So, I have a dying video card which is an R7 265 Dual X from Sapphire. It has served me for only less than 2 years. The first thing I noticed was constant stuttering, then freezes then discolored stripes (even in the BIOS). Now, for some reason, I can't boot to Windows when the driver is installed. (Booted to safe mode to uninstall the driver and I was able to boot to Windows again) I determined that it was the graphics card's fault when I replaced it with my old one the Geforce 210 which worked. Now, what I did to "revive" the card was heating it in an oven(I've watched dozens of "Putting your graphics card in an oven" videos including Linus' so I was pretty sure what I was doing). It worked! Sort of... It died again in 3 days. I did the same thing again and it died again for less than a day. I've sent the card to a repair shop and they basically did the same thing. It worked aaaaaaaand it died again. WHAT THE F*** SHOULD I DO WITH THIS CARD?! If anyone knows better, please help. PC Specs CPU: i3 6100 Stock speed GPU: R7 265 2GB RAM:4GB OS: Windows 10 Pro STORAGE: 1TB Seagate Barracuda PSU: 450W Thermaltake
  7. so i have asrock a320m-dgs mb whit ddr4 ram and i bought Samsung 8GB 2133Mhz 15CL DDR4 but it dont wanna fit is this ram not suporrted?
  8. Hey everyone! Volework here. I'll keep it short and sweet. So, I've managed to collect around $550 to play with for some new computer parts, and I'm really leaning on Newegg's Early BTS Sale and Refurbished parts if I can to get the best "Bang For Your Buck." What I'm really looking for are parts that I can keep for at least 2 - 4 years and still be able to play new releases fairly well, around 50 - 60 FPS on High, with some tweaking. So, that leads me to the question for my GPU: Are GTX 900 Series / R7 300 Series / R9 200 Series still good (I think I got the hierarchy's right...)? What do you guys recommend?
  9. Hey guys im new around here and i recently got a new budget pc thats lacking a gpu for gaming, i have a friend that is offering me a Sapphire Vapor-X HD7950 for less than 100usd ( converted from my countries currency) which is pretty much a very cheap and an offer that i could afford just nicely since my budget is around that atm. wiht that being said it is still worth to pick up,its practically still new as my friend told me he never used it as its his backup graphics card. I did compatibility and bottleneck testings and the results were just fine. My preferred gaming is 1920x1080p and 60ghz fps.Tq for reading and hope i can have some help. tqvm
  10. I am looking to upgrade my cpu. it is a small upgrade to limit or lessen the bottleneck on my gtx 1070. I currently have a GTX 1070 with a laughable fx 6100. I want to keep the price at a minimum. I was looking at the fx 9590 bc this would help on the budget end as I would not need a new motherboard or ram. but I was watching some benchmarks and the i5-3570k seems to beat the fx 9590 on cpu intensive games like GTAV. I am heavily leaning toward the i5-3570k bc with a new mobo it will cost about the same as the fx chip and it consumes less energy. with both choices I can keep my ddr3 ram. The question is is there a better choice that will still keep me in the budget of about 140$ remember if its a new socket type from the AM3+ the motherboard and chip will need to fit in the budget together. it seems I can get a i5- 3570k for about 100$
  11. Hello All, I have never posted in the forum and I have been given the task to get a PC part list together without peripherals for a PC that will be doing audio editing and photoshop editing workstation. The hardest thing I have ever done though was making the pc for under 200$. I was thinking a Pre-built old system for 80$ or a system with onboard graphics that has an i-3. I have been searching for something on the lines of this for about 2 weeks and found nothing with the compromise of performance. I have convinced him because he is trying to do photoshop on an Acer laptop and have all his audio editing on it as well, which is a horrendous Idea. I have been watching Linus for a very long time and cannot find an answer. Ohh Please Help me on this adventure. Let me also say that this is located in California, also he is up for the Idea of Used parts. Thanks. Jdog
  12. Hi everyone! I am looking to build myself a new system based around the Ryzen 7 1700 because to my knowledge its the best bang for my buck especially since I have no interest in overclocking. I am not really a big expert on what parts go together so I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions of a build that would give me a decent future proof pc that can handle a good amount of multitasking and some pc gaming. Any help would be greatly appreciated because so far I found this is the best place for pc advice! Thank you all in advance!
  13. Motherboard: Asrock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer Power Supply: CoolerMaster G750M Processor: FX8320 Graphics Card: Sapphire Tri-x r9 290 RAM: 2X (8GB Kingston HyperX Fury) Cooling: Hyper 212evo and 6 (or so) case fans. Hi so ... PC doesn't POST anymore the mobo seems to be the issue (did mobo swap), however upon unplugging the GPU the system will boot (led's power up and num lock is responsive). {https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6hnjcpedIzjblpBY0RlLUJPZEk/view?usp=sharing} So this is where I'm at: I've built my pc 3 years ago and after a year or so my pc randomly shut down (fyi: I was playing the Forest :D). Instantly checked for a defective part, thought it was my PSU so RMA'd that got my very same PSU back (no problems found). Whilst checking for defects I ran some GPU intensive stresstests like FurrMark etc, PC did the same thing so i RMA'd my gpu, got it back (no problems found). It was at this time that my brother bought his PC so we tried a cpu/mobo swap, so i got his i7 and he got my fx8320, but he had no problems (his GPU GTX 560ti ... we bought his in used condition). Everything good, but still his PC would very rarely crash or take very long to POST. Tried a load of stuff afterward, like OC'ing the CPU, but CSGO didn't like that too much, stresstests would run fine though. Undervolting his CPU to try take some load away, nothing helped. So I decided to set his PC at stock freq, but like i said it would still crash from time to time (while gaming). Then I decided to upgrade to a GTX 1060, and give my r9 290 to my brother, but then we would have the same system once again (my fx rig). So he got the GTX 1060, but I needed it for a project I was working on (involving NVIDIA GameStream) so I needed that GPU, we swapped PSU so he got my 750w, i got his 650w hoping that we would not run into any problems here. As soon as I had swapped them the FX rig would not boot entirelly first it would get into the Windows login screen, but would shutdow immediately after loging in (driver issue), then it would only just get into the bios, but anything past that would cause it to shut down, following this was a bootloop that would only barely make it into the bios. Now the system wont POST and i'm quite fed up with it. Any suggestions ? EDIT: Forgot to tell you that one of the pins on the USB3 header is bent but isn't making contact with any other pin. I also can't RMA the board because the warranty period is over. TLDR: PC won't POST (Occasionaly) unplugging non-defective GPU does allow booting. I know that my motherboard is the issue because a mobo swap solves the issue. What is causing this ? Can I fix this ?
  14. I have the best cpu i can get for my current motherboard. I am wanting to upgrade to an atx motherboard. Looking to spend around £150 pound on the cpu and £150 on the motherboard. Suggestions on what i should get for increased fps and speed on games like overwatch and player unknown. Current setup: cpu - amd a8 7650k Radeon r7 4.19ghz mobo - a68hm grenade ram - basic 2 sticks of 8gb GPU - gtx 1050ti PSU - not sure but 500w case - nzxt s340 cooler - not sure ... thanks
  15. Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/intels-12-core-i9-7920x-features-2-9-ghz-base-clock The 799$ 12-core TR have a base clock of 3.5Ghz. Knowing how hot and power hungry i9's are these are Intel's only option to put the temperature under control.
  16. AMD has been relatively calm about the whole "4 dies glued together" fiasco. After Intel took a swing at AMD regarding their EPYC CPU lineup, AMD has proven to be the more mature of the two silicon giants, releasing a cool and collected response. AMD's Scott Aylor responds by stating: AMD's cool and collected response speaks volumes about their confidence. AMD also provided some slides explaining how their EPYC products are It is clear from Intel's response that EPYC is disruptive, and that it has already had an effect on its competitor on the blue team. here are some of the slides AMD has provided: Source:http://wccftech.com/amds-reply-to-intel-calling-naples-epyc-4-glued-togather-desktop-dies/
  17. Hey I was wondering if I bought this computer https://denver.craigslist.org/sys/d/hp-pavilion-pc-amd-quad/6225374085.html and put a Gigabyte R7 240 Graphics Card in it would it be able to play games like The Crew, Rocket League, GTA 5 and Minecraft. Is the CUP in it ok or is it too old? Thanks in advance!!
  18. Hello. I am changing my system to mini-ITX. I use my computer for gaming & programming. I would like to also upgrade from Z77 for a number of reasons - mainly advanced storage solution support. Should I get AMD Ryzen, or Intel. I'll spend up to about £500 for CPU + Motherboard + RAM. I like the performance of an 3570k, so something like that or better - and that can keep up for the next 5+ years. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
  19. I'm wondering if a 1600 can be pushed to 3.9/4.0GHz with its stock cooler and this motherboard: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-K5-rev-10#kf. I looked on YouTube but I didn't find anything about it.
  20. I've overclocked my XFX R7870 to 1100MHz Core and 1450 VRAM with +20% Power control, all according to a guide. My problem is, that the Core stays at 1100MHZ at idle and the VRAM is at around 1200MHZ at idle too, which leads to annoyingly loud fans, wasted lifespan of the card and so on. Before I overclocked, the gpu & vram used to dynamically scale their clock speed. Why are they not doing that anymore? Sounds noobish because.. I am a noob at overclocking. Help/Advice is very much appreciated.
  21. Ok so this PC I bought 3 years ago as my first build, I didn't get the best build I could have as I was kinda stupid but oh well, I'm now gonna try and sell it but I don't know the best way to get as much money as possible back out of the build. Specs are: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - 5350 2.05GHz Quad-Core Processor (no price, paid £40 @ Amazon UK in 2014, worth much less now) Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AM1M-S2H Micro ATX AM1 Motherboard (no price, paid £25 @ Amazon UK in 2014, worth much less now) Memory: Corsair - XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£74.99 @ Amazon UK) Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£87.50 @ Aria PC) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Aria PC) Video Card: Sapphire PCI Express R7 260X 1GB Graphics Card (no price, paid £80 @ Amazon UK in 2014, worth much less now) Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (no price, paid £25 @ Amazon UK in 2014, worth much less now) Power Supply: Corsair - Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£39.98 @ Amazon UK) Total: £242.42 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 17:48 BST+0100 So I'm thinking of maybe selling the graphics card separately and keeping the SSD and hard drive and put in an old 128GB Seagate drive I have lying around and sell the build as an office pc or htpc. I can't really sell the build as a "gaming pc" because it doesn't perform great in most games without using lowest graphics settings so I think this will be a good idea but I don't really know. Help or any input at all would be greatly appreciated PS: I'm selling in Ireland
  22. I'm just looking to get into ethereum mining and looking for motherboards with a few PCI-E slots (more than 2 or 3). assuming their entry level CPU's have the lanes to support it. I've never done an AMD build so I think that would be cool. and it would help a lot if you could link me to the specifications to their AM4 spec page. Obviously, the price is a concern so I'm not going with their top of the line CPU. Alternatively, if someone has another platform to go one that offers many PCI-E slots that would be wonderful.
  23. So I'm a bit new to overclocking and a bit confused. I currently have my AMD FX 6300 at 4.6GHz, 1.32v, purely from the multiplier. But I've seen that overclocking via base FSB frequency is better? I tried overclocking via FSB once before to 4.4 I think, i started hitting some crash issues in some games but that may have been video drivers, I'm still not sure. But from that experience i know that i had to keep turning memory clocks and so on down to stay within reason. This is what confuses me, if I'm turning everything else down, are a CPU at 4.6 via FSB and a CPU at 4.6 via multiplier any different in performance?
  24. So after reading some comments across the internet on the New AMD Vega FE, it seems that a vast majority of people are completely missing the point to this card, that or they are hating on it for being either AMD or not a 1080 killer. Here is just some thing people need to remember, Ryzen is a Jack of all trades. its not a pure gaming, nor work station, video rendering monster, BUT what it is, is a balance, something that can do it all, it can do it all and it does it well, might not be that pure gamer or pure workstation CPU but it does both very well. NOW the Vega is basically that in a GPU, its for BOTH (im stressing the Both here as some people seem to have missed this due to GPU's being either Work station or gaming) workstation AND gaming, now it isn't a bad performing card by no means, it is also a innovative idea. The cost that people are shocked about is simply because of Drivers, Professional Drivers for Workstation application are not cheap, they have to be certified. now as for the gaming side, yes its not a 1080 killer, nor should have people expected a hybrid card to be that (hybrid i mean gaming\workstation), this card is filling a really interesting area on the market. im getting into CAD, i also like gaming. i have a AMD Ryzen R7 1700 mATX setup. now what im moving into on the CAD designing side is basically Engineering. drawing up and designing the house structure. using a Work station card that can do gaming would be very handy, it would only use 2 slots in my rig and i get BOTH workstation and gaming benifits in a mATX build. this card defaintly has a place in this world. and here in Australia its about $1800 to buy one. but if i want a Quadro workstation card (besides it taking up more space in my PC that is barely there) Id be paying upwards of $3500... plus the price of a gaming card. and possibly a larger PSU. so rather than expecting this GPU To be the 1080killer people hyped it up to be!. remember this Vega FE is a hybrid of BOTH gaming and workstation an its for the group of people who want to have a workstation and gaming rig, its a great idea, it is also well priced for such a idea and card, AMD is really trying to bring in a great idea alot of people are missing, Workstation\pro grade equipment to the general consumer, it sacrifices a bit of performance to make a great all rounded machine. might not be best in 1 thing, but its good at it all, that is what Vega fe AND the Ryzen (at least the R7 line up) is bringing to the market.
  25. Hello i need help. Can this laptop be used for everyday tasks like browsing the web, watching youtube without dropped frames at 720p and maybe some light gaming like Half-life2 etc ? The laptop in question is HP 255 G5 W4M80EA with AMD E2-7110 apu with radeon r2 graphics, 4GB of ram and 500GB hdd.