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  1. Alright, So I'm slamming together Some super budget rigs (Scrapyard wars style here) And I'm debating my next move. On one hand, I have the MSI 970A SLI Krait Edition Motherboard. It's sorta stubby, which is odd, about 225mm across so it falls short of the third row of mounts. It looks nice, has USB 3.1. Seems legit. On the other side, I have an MSI 890FXA-GD65. 16x16 PCI-e, On board power for the PCI-E. Full sized board. Still looks pretty okay. Are Either of these motherboards known for being garbo? Mixed reviews on them in the wild. Is one Vastly better then the other in some way I'm missing? Do I just go with the slightly stubby Krait, or do I stick with the blue board? One system will be a custom build for my friend, Something budget but with enough power to get most things of import done. And Overwatch, mostly Overwatch. Parts list for the rest of the system: Gigbyte R9 270 2x 4GB 1866 Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 AMD 1090t BE Corsair Hx 620W Power supply 212 Evo Cooler Looking like an Antec 900 tower with stock fans. The other one is going to be the Parts donkey and get the random set of 4x2gb DDR3 1600 and a 955 x4 jammed in it with a crippled 7850 (1gb).
  2. Alright, here's the long and short. I have an old 1090t and i want to jump it to 4.1-4.2 GHz if i can (I've seen people get it stable at 4.4, but that's a 1.58 core voltage... "safe" is 1.55) unsafe temperatures are 60C If I recall. Fully stock, under full load you hit 38C with the stock cooler, in an 18C room. The Current case is a Antec 900, so that should give you an idea of the limitations for case size. I'm aware the side panel fan has got to go. I have a Crosshair IV Formula Motherboard and a Corsair HX 620 PSU. GPU is a Gigabyte R9 270. 2x 4gb of Kingston Hyper X DDR3, so the memory isn't ludicrously tall. There is no Liquid cooling support in this case, so air cooling is the way to go. I'd like it to not clash with other components looks-wise if possible, but that doesn't take Noctua off the table.
  3. Hi Guys, I was going to upgrade my PC sometime ago but skipped it and edged out more life from my ageing hardware. It is now showing its age and I have a few options and some advice would be welcome, I have a couple of options and plenty of time on my side as while it needs replacing I want to do plenty of research... Current Spec: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T MSI 990FXA-GD80 Corsair H60 Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 1600 Mhz ATi/AMD 5850 1Gb OCZ ARC100 256GB Coolermaster CM 690 II Advanced Case OCZ GameXStream 850W PSU GPU I have had since 2009 and most of the other parts since 2011. I'm currently cosidering 2 options: Egde out more life from my existing system: Upgrade CPU to AMD FX 8350 Upgrade GPU to 1060 6GB Keep everything else Bigger build: Ryzen 5 2600X (?) Dark Rock Pro 4 B350 Motherboard Corsair 16GB DDR4 3000 1060 6GB or 1070 Samsung 860 500GB New PSU (?) Keep the case Thanks in advance.
  4. Is it normal for a 1090t to hity 75c on CPUTIN while cores are at 37 c at 50 to 60% load? All other temps were at 40 c to 45 c. Card was at 60 to 62c. This was while running Snes9x @ 1920x1080 with BRZ 6 enabled. I have Cool n Quiet and Thermal throttling disabled. I checked in task manager and it was SNES9X using that much resource at BRZ6 setting under display settings. I'm using version 1.54.1. It was using less resource running Dolphin.
  5. Hi everyone, I am running a 1090t, with 2 X 4GB ram @1333mhz and a MSI Twin Frozr 7850 2GB on a CX430, with 2 hard drives, 2 fans, and a DVD RW drive. Nothing is overclocked. I would like to upgrade my graphics card. I am looking at a gtx 970 for its power efficiency but I am not sure if I can pull it off with this small PSU. I would be willing to disconnect one of the hard drives if it would help. If this PSU is not enough then I would get another PSU and most likely go with the R9 390, 290, or 290X because they all seem to have a better bang for the buck than the 970 especially since 970 has a cripled VRAM issue. The cheapest 290 is $230 which is the powercolor turboduo The Saphire tri X 290X is $235 but it is manufacturer refurbished GigaByte R9 390 $300 EVGA FTW with MGS $300 I want to play on ultra or high settings on 1080P at 60 fps and would like the setup to go for at least 2 more years. Kit to Overclock the 1090t is about $25.00 Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO RoseWIll Capstone 750W 80 plus Gold is $60 I am thinking the best option is the 290X with the PSU and the OC Cooler. Will I benefit from an AMD GPU because of Mantle? Thank you
  6. Long time LTT fan here but first forum post so here goes I have a 990FXA-UD5 rev 3.0 and my aging 1090t is getting a bit slow. At £180 ($250) i can afford a FX 9590. Is my mobo rev compatible with this CPU as the FX 8350, using the same architecture as the 9590, is. Power and cooling are not an issue. My main uses are for gaming but also heavy rendering in solidworks and other CPU heavy applications. Other question is, does the 9590 offer a tangible performance increase over a 8350 when overclocked? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  7. Introduction It's been some time since the launch of the second generation of AMD's FX processor line-up. What we have here today is the FX-8350 AM3+ processor on hand. Personally, I've been holding off from upgrading to a newer FX chip, and sticking with my Phenom II X6 1090T CPU for some time. It has been about four years since the launch of the Phenom II X6 product line, so I have finally decided to jump on the bandwagon and make the switch. A majority of the components of my system have been upgraded since then -this includes the graphics card, motherboard, RAM, storage devices, etc- but the only thing major left to change is the processor. Examples: 2x / 3x Radeon HD 5850 --> 1x Radeon HD 7970 ASUS ROG Crosshair IV Formula 890FX --> Crosshair V Formula 990FX Single mechanical HDD --> SSD's The purpose of this review is to compare the compute performance between the aging, previously top-of-the-line CPU AMD had to offer, the Phenon II X6 1090T, and its present successor, the FX-8350. There also have been threads appearing on the LLT forums asking if the upgrade from a APU, Phenom II or first-generation AM3+ FX processor to a second-generation FX processor is worthwhile, or how these chips stack up between one another. The review may be broken down into segments due to personal time constraints, and the time required to perform such tests / benchmarks. The benchmarks and tests are done on a existing system - not a fresh install of Windows - and a simple CPU swap is performed. At this time in stage, it is projected so the comparisons / review will be conducted on different conditions, such as: Stock CPU performance Overclocked CPU performance Stock CPU-NB frequency Overclocked CPU-NB frequency Stock RAM frequency Overclocked RAM frequency As previously mentioned, due to time constraints, there may not be a 100% guarantee all these tests will be conducted and achieved. Without further ado, let's get to it. System specifications CPU: AMD Phenom II x6 1090T, AMD FX-8350 CPU Cooling: Thermaltake Frio (original model), two (2) Cooler Master JetFlo 120mm fans in push-pull configuration, Antec Formula 7 thermal paste Motherboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX Memory: 8GB (4GB X 2) G.SKILL RipJawsX 2133MHz F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL Graphics Card: Sapphire Dual-X Radeon HD 7970, 11197-11-40G Power Supply: Corsair TX850 (version 1) Storage: Corsair ForceGT 120GB (OS), Kingston V200+ 120GB, WD Caviar Black 1TB WD1002FAEX Chassis / Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate x64, SP1 (applicable Microsoft Hotfixes installed for the FX processors, and fully up-to-date) Motherboard BIOS version: 1703 (latest available from ASUS) Graphic Card Driver version: 13.12 WQHL * Stock memory frequency will be DDR3 1600MHz 9-9-9-24-1T 1.5V The FX-8350 AM3+ Processor I was excited when I received my FX-8350 shipment from the local Purolator, hoping it was packaged in the famous "recycled" tin box. Once I've removed the packaging, I was surprised...it was enclosed in the typical cardboard box. Eh, just to test my luck, no matter. The packaging used between the Phenom II x6 1090T and FX-8350 were nearly identical in size. Surprisingly, the new FX processor clamshell did not come with a piece of black foam pad to provide cushioning and support for the delicate pins on the underside of the chip. Instead, the outer edges of the physical chip just sits on top of one half the plastic clamshell. As a result, the CPU is sitting elevated in between the two clamshell halves, and the pins are held mid air. As you can see, it is a bit different with the Phenon II. The Included Air-Cooling CPU Cooler AMD haven't changed their mounting system since the AM2 days. In fact, the FM1, FM2, (maybe FM2+ as well) APU sockets all use the same mounting system. You could potentially use a AM3+ CPU cooler on a AM2 board, or a AM3+ cooler on a FM1 socket motherboard. I have personally tested this. Stock AM3 cooler installed on a socket AM2 board and a FM1 motherboard, and a socket AM2 heatsink cooler on a FM1 motherboard. Looking at the included aluminum fin array and copper heatpipe cooler provided with every boxed AMD processor, it is a lot like some of the "better" stock coolers (not just an aluminum fin array block) supplied by the later socket AM2 Athlon 64 X2's, and first-generation Phenom chips. Come to think of it, it is extremely similar to the heatsinks provided on pretty much all processors ranging from first generation Athlon 64 X2 (AM2 and socket 939), second-generation Athlon II 64 X2 and Phenom II (AM3), all the way to first generation FX (AM3+). ...And guess who the OEM is for these stock CPU coolers? Cooler Master!! Stay tuned, we shall get into testing methodology and the performance numbers soon (already in progress). In the next....episode of DRAGONBALL Z!! LLT Member Review.
  8. So I am trying to overclock my phenom 1090t with amd overdrive and I have encountered a few problems. Stock clock is 3.2 Ghz trying to achieve at least 4.0 Ghz Ive tried to OC using the regular cpu clock sliders and the turbo clock slider thingys. The problem is that when I reboot my computer, everything goes back to stock clocks. Is 4.0 too high a clock speed? or do voltages need to be increased? Any useful help is apreciated.
  9. Hey guys, This is my first proper post, so bear with me, I’m having a bit of trouble as to what to upgrade my system/s to, basically I have two systems currently and I’m looking to combine the two to make one single large powerful tower with everything I need on it. One is used for gaming and one is used for just work. I’m a Computing BSc soon to be second year Uni student so I don’t have a whole lot of money at the moment but the computers are getting old and annoying at times, I’m trying to find the best time to sell and buy components. I’m looking to spend £300-450 and preferably go Intel if you guys think it’s worth it. My current specs are Gaming Rig Fractal Design Define R3 AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2Ghz Hex Core Some old ASUS Motherboard with SATAII MSI 560ti Twin Forzer II 1GB 8GB Corsair Vengeance SATA II Intel 80GB SSD (Boot drive) 1TB HDD (Game storage) 250GB HDD (Video editing and downloads drive) OCZ 500W PSU Work Rig Fractal Core 1000 AMD FX4100 3.6Ghz Quad Core Some old MATX Gigabyte Motherboard with SATAII Corsiar XMS 3 4x2GB (8GB) 60Gb Crucial SSD (boot) 500GB HDD (files, Ubuntu boot) GeForce 9500T (don’t care about graphics here, still better than the onboard from gigabyte) Corsair Builder Series 450W PSU I think I have basically backed myself into a corner as the motherboards are SATAII therefore SSD performance is pretty bad, but then I’m sure the AM3+ socket is being ditched so there is no point spending money on getting another motherboard with AM3+. I understand the 1090T is still pretty good compared to the FX6xxx series so is it worth sticking with the old 1090T for the time being or just over to Intel now? But then my graphics card is obviously 2 gen’s behind now and in games like ARMA3 the performance isn’t amazing, I run 2 1080p IPS 24” AOC monitors, but use just the one for gaming. If I were to upgrade my graphics card I refuse to go AMD GPU. What I would like to upgrade my gaming system (to be used for everything from now on) to is: Intel 4770k or 4790k and overclock H80i Asus ROG z97 Samsung EVO 120/256GB SSD And then I would ditch the work system, use the gaming system for everything after the upgrade, I would keep the R3, PSU, RAM, HDD’s and Graphics card from the gaming system and upgrade GPU when the new Maxwell’s come out. I reckon would be able to sell all the unused parts for about £250-300, does this seem about right? Any help would be appreciated, cheers!
  10. This is a spec i use now Motherboard: GA 970A-D3 CPU: AMD 1090T BE @ 4.0 GPU: Sapphire 7770 OC RAM 8GB Gaming on 1920*1080 I want to change my gpu to 280x, Will my cpu bottleneck 280x? If it does, what CPU should i buy? I want to save money as much as possible. if I have to buy a new cpu, it will take awhile to save some cash. Thank you IN ADVANCE
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