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  1. Which RAM is better ( both work on my MB with XMP profiles as specified, AM5 platform): Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5-6400 2x48GB, CL32-40-40-84, 1.40V Gskill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-6400 2x48GB, CL32-39-39-102, 1.35V Differences: A) 1.4V vs 1.35V: Does the higher voltage have a relevant disadvantage (power consumption, lifespan, heat development)? B) Timings/Latency: CL32-40-40-84 vs CL32-39-39-102 --> Which overall values are better, Corsair or Gskill? C) The DIE manufacturers: Gskill apparently has a Hynix A DIE. I don't know about Corsair. Does the DIE manufacturer matter if I don't overclock the RAM or change the timings/latency?
  2. Just bought 16gb of G.Skill TridentZ Rgb, 2x8, 4000 mhz. Running the XMP profile, however, does not work and brings up errors. I figured that 4000 mhz is just unstable after a bit of research (idk much about ram). Wondering what memory timings I would use to run the sticks at 3600.
  3. Hey there. Total newbie here to overclocking. I recently won a RAM kit through a giveaway (V-Color Skywalker Plus 64GB (32x2) 4400MHz 19-26-26-46) and want to put it into my PC. My current mobo (MSI MS-7B86 "B450 Gaming Plus") only supports OC up to 3466MHz. I was curious if any more experienced overclockers could give some recommendations on timing settings (outside of just clicking XMP) for my mobo? Would 3200 at a certain timing setting be better than maxing out to 3466? As you can tell, this will be a massive upgrade from what I had, but a bit overkill for the rest of my system. Haha. (Plans to upgrade mobo and CPU in the future) but for now would like the best performance I can get out of this new RAM. Any thoughts? Full PC Specs: CPU: Ryzen 3600X RAM: V-Color 64GB (32x2) @ 4400MHz (previously 16GB (8x2) @ 2666MHz) Mobo: MSI B450 Gaming Plus (MS-7B86) OS SSD: WD_Black SN850 500GB (+ other storage SSDs) GPU: GTX1650 Super PSU: 450W
  4. Lets say how do I calculate which of the following is faster? No I do not wanna know which is faster but rather how to calculate it... A) DDR4-3200MHz CL14-14-14-34 B) DDR4-3600MHz CL16-18-18-38 C) DDR4-3800MHz CL18-19-19-39
  5. I'm a big fan of Corsair's Dominator RAM and bought my last set at MicroCenter. MC Doesn't carry 3600 Dominator, so looking at Corsair's site, I can either get 64 GB of CL 18 3600 for $600 or 64 GB of CL 16 3600 for $850. The only reason I'm looking to purchase new is that I use my computer as a workstation as well as for gaming, and the 32GB of CL16 3600 Dominator I'm running now gets up to 90%-95% usage under normal circumstances, so I want to jump to 64GB for headroom. I'm running: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula MoBo, Zen 3 5900X, 32GB CL16 3600 Dominator RAM, ROG Strix 3090, TT 850W Gold+, and an ElGato 4K60 capture card. Is it worth the ridiculous price for the 64GB of CL16 or will the 64 GB of CL 18 do me just fine?
  6. Please bare with me so I can explain in some detail what the issue is and what I've tried so far... So I'm working on helping my friend fix his PC. It's only around 4/5 months old and for a while he's been having issues with it. Early on it was getting errors playing games like Tarkov. The common error he was getting was a page file/virtual memory error. Something around the lines of running out of memory etc... However, as time went on and after adjusting virtual memory on his pc to solve this, it was only temporary. Lately his pc started crashing / blue screening. I worked on it last night and tried the following: Wiped all drives and installed a fresh copy of Windows 10. (Installed all updates and drivers and tested Tarkov while screen sharing over Discord and running TeamViewer to control it. I wanted to push the ram a little to test. It has 16gb, running at 3200Mhz, and it wasn't using much to assume a fault would or may occur. But it did.) It blue screened again. Reset BIOS to optimized defaults and booted up. This in turn has obviously reset the RAM back down to the 2133Mhz default. (PC seemed to be fine, we never stressed it this time. I went straight in to setting a bootable usb up with Passmark Memtest86. We ran this for a few passes and no errors were found.) RAM is still set to 2133Mhz as default. PC is running fine as of last night. (As of this morning I am starting to think that the issue lays within the ram being overclocked to 3200. However, this ram is the Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16gb 3200Mhz (2x8gb sticks) Here's some information I should include: This PCs specs are the exact same specs as my nephew's PC. I built both my nephew's and my friends. However, my nephew's PC runs absolutely fine when set to 3200Mhz. So it confuses me as to why 1 would work but not the other. PC specs are as follows: Motherboard - Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite (supports up to 3200Mhz) CPU - Ryzen 5 3600 GPU - RTX 2060 6gb Primary - M.2 - Samsung 970 Evo plus 500gb Secondary - 500gb SSD for storage Latest update: While writing this I got my nephew (working pc) to check his RAM settings and timings. Here they are to compare. I've circled he differences: WORKING PC IMAGE 1 - https://i.imgur.com/MFKIILi.jpg IMAGE 2 - https://i.imgur.com/W5A5Vqz.jpg NOT WORKING PC (*please note image 1 here says "Memory Frequency(MHz) 3200MHz ---- 2133MHz" because we just made the change but did not press F10 to save it.)* IMAGE 1 - https://i.imgur.com/eVngSBf.jpg IMAGE 2 - https://i.imgur.com/wA4kiNx.jpg Please tell me your thoughts. What you think I should do to solve this issue? and whether or not I should change all timings and advanced timings etc in NOT WORKING PC to match WORKING PC ?
  7. Hi, I recently bought a kit of 2 corsair vengeance rgb pro at 3600 cl16 (Micron E-die) and overclock them, I want to know if it's a good overclock. The xmp profile is 3600mhz cl16-19-19-36 1.35v and i managed to run them stable (i think) at 4266 cl17-22-22-42 1.45v, I left the other timings in auto as well as the other voltages. I use memtestpro86 to verify if it's stable runing it for 45 minutes. Is this overclock good or the tRCD, tRP and tRAS values are too high? Motherboard: Z490 gaming edge wifi CPU: i5 10400f
  8. Hey guys:) This is my first post so please be kind. I am very sorry for bad English, my mothertongue is German. My system: Motherboard: Aorus X470 Ultra Gaming CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X @ 4.2 GHz on all cores GPU: MSI RTX2070 Armor also overclocked ( Afterburner: Core Clock +190 MHz , Memory Clock +1000 MHz) RAM:2x 16GB G.Skill Trident Z Black & White 3600 Mhz (CL17) So I was getting into overclocking and was tweaking CPU and GPU settings when i noticed that my RAM was at CL22 in CPU-Z. I went into my BIOS and turned off XMP and set my timings to 17-19-19-39-58 but the timings didnt change at all in CPU-Z. How do I set my timings correctly so that they appear in CPU-Z correctly? system.txt
  9. Hey there everyone! So I've been encountering a TON of crashes/errors that I was not having before after upgrading my RAM, from two sticks of Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR4 3600, to 4X 16GB sticks. I purchased them from two different vendors (Amazon and Newegg) and it appears that the dies on my sticks came from Samsung, and Sk Hynix, with my original sticks being the Samsung dies. I'm not exactly sure which set came from where, but I suspect the Samsung BDIE sticks came from Newegg. I haven't done anything with timings/voltage, as I'm not super knowledgeable with that (but would be willing to give it a shot!) I do however, know my way around the BIOS fairly well. My timings seem to be just slightly different across the sticks, but not by much. Could anyone shed some wisdom on my foolish self -- is it problematic to be running multiple different manufactures, of the same 'type' of RAM...? Also, even with XMP enabled, I'm showing TERRIBLE RAM speeds, of about 1799Mhz, on sticks rated for 3600. I'm running a Ryzen 3700x, on a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max MB. Bit of RAM info below, for anyone brave enough to peruse it: Help?
  10. Hey, I have a few Questions that i just don't find answers for. Thats my configuration right now: Slot #1 & Slot #2 = 2* Samsung 8GB 2800MHz 1R CL14-36 G.Skill Slot #3 & Slot #4 = 2* SK Hynix 8GB 2800MHz 1R CL14-36 G.Skill I wonder if it would "decrease" Performance or "async" the Infinity Fabric if: 1. I would Overclock Slot #1 & Slot #2 (with the "better overclocking capable" Samsung DRAM) to something like 2800 MHz CL12-34, but keep the Overclock of the Slot #3 & Slot #4 (with the "worse overclocking capable" SK Hynix DRAM)? 2. I would further overclock all Slots to 2400MHz CL12-34? 3. I would overclock the Infinity Fabric to 1800MHz but keep the DRAM at 2800 MHz CL14-36? Thats my System: CPU = Ryzen 5 5600X MB = MSI B550-A PRO RAM = G.Skill 32GB 3200MHz CL16-38 ^^ 2* Samsung 8GB 2800MHz 1R CL14-36 G.Skill ^^ 2* SK Hynix 8GB 2800MHz 1R CL14-36 G.Skill GPU = RX 6800 XT Midnight Black 16GB 2400MHz@990mV MPT 345W max. Power Draw PSU = BeQuiet System Power 9 700W (672W@12V Rail) Sorry for my bad english, Thanks for reading and maybe answering!
  11. Hey guys, first time posting here, just looking for some advice. Few years ago a bought a kit of 2 x 8 Gb of 2400 MHz ram from G skill (G.SKILL F4-2400C15D-16GTZR Trident Z RGB Series 16 GB (8 GB x 2) DDR4 2400 MHz PC4-19200 CL15 Dual Channel specifically). I've been very happy with it ran with no issues for years, a few weeks ago my brothers PC stopped working and he's sent his ram to get repaired to Corsair. In the meantime, he's using one of my 8 Gb sticks. I'm now wondering, if he keeps one of my 8 Gb sticks, can I buy another 2 x 8Gb kit and have 24 Gb in my setup? The only reasonably priced Gskill kit I can find at the minute (in the UK) is this ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01MTDEYHU?pf_rd_r=K8DKDD28X5NEC1S4FQKC&pf_rd_p=6e878984-68d5-4fd2-b7b3-7bc79d9c8b60&pd_rd_r=0ee542f5-6ab3-4dd8-a53d-b5489d4180a0&pd_rd_w=6FCXH&pd_rd_wg=3UX0I&ref_=pd_gw_unk ) which runs at 3200 MHz and seems to have different timings: CL16-18-18-38. I'm running an i5 8600k, a 1080 Ti and a Gigabyte gaming 3 mobo if that helps. Is this gonna work? Any advice appreciated
  12. Hey, got some problems with my kit. If I hit up the xmp profile I notice some delay with the mouse (especially in csgo). To give some reference 1000hz polling rate feels more like 500 hz (with a crapy mouse). I tried to set configure the timings manuall and kind of fixes the problem but then I get random ingame crashes and some stutter. Xmp profile passes memtest. I have talked to corsair support and they blame the bad auto timings on amds. I had 3 mobos with same behaviour with them all. My 2 asus mobos even showed 2 different timings on a and b channels (2*8gb). The kit doesn't overclock at all. They are combined with a 3700x (stabled clocked 4.4ghz@1.28v), 3070ti and a corsair rm850x. This been bugging me for long and really don't know what to do. Can't rma the kit cause they pass memtest and corsair pointing fingers at AMD, my retailer points the finger at AMD and claim that there is nothing wrong with the kit cause it passes memtest. But at the same time I know differences between a responsive crosshair in Csgo and a "slow" reacting. Any ideas? I'll put a lot of money into this build for a long time and even borrowed money for the gpu and just can't afford getting a new kit. So all good advice is welcomed!
  13. Hi everyone, I'm looking at these 2 GSkill kits: F4-4000C16D-16GVK - 4000 MHZ, 16-19-19-39 at 1.4v F4-4000C16D-16GVKA - 4000 MHZ, 16-16-16-36 at 1.4v They both look like Samsung B-die. I'm thinking, maybe they made the 16-19-19 kit because some CPUs can't do 16-16-16 and the XMP will fail, but other than that, both kits are identical and will do 16-16-16 at 1.4v. Can somebody confirm that? I know B-die generally does flat timings, or maybe +-1. Maybe the 16-19-19 kit isn't B-die?
  14. So I just want to know what sort of timings are can be had out of a Samsung B-die CL16-16-16-36 4X8GB kit at 3600Mhz. Not looking to increase the XMP per say, just perhaps tighten timings. What can I expect to get with this config?
  15. Hi I just upgraded my PC (I guess at least) and bought an additional 16GB of 3200MHZ DDR4 RAM. Now I have 4x8GB of the same Vengeance LPX 3200MHZ Memory. It runs smoothly, cpu-z and the task manager show the 32gb. But it is running at the default 2166mhz frequency. I already tried to enable DOCP which didn't help. In the BIOS drop-down menu it says 3200mhz while only running on 2166mhz. I am not comfortable to set frequency, timings and voltage myself, I don't know too much about computers. Updated the BIOS, Chipset etc. Now CPU-Z shows the timings as 15-15-15-36 while I think the correct ones would be 16-18-18-36. But I have no clue on how to change that correctly. Specs: ASUS ROG STRX B450-F Gaming Ryzen 7 2700X 4 x 8GB Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHZ Can anyone help me out here?
  16. Hello, I just have DDR4 3800 CL 13-14-14-29 and I'am thinking of exchanging it for DDR4 3800 CL 19-19-19-39 with RGB. Is there a difference in Framrate? (Ryzen 3700x)
  17. As the title suggest, any help would do. But I've tried DRAM Calculator and it always fail to post. even changing one timing (CAS) from 18 to 16 causes a black screen. I know I can do it step by step but at least I would like some head start. The dimms I'm using is GSKILL TRIDENT Z NEO RGB 32GB DUAL 3600 CL18 F4-3600C18D-32GTZN https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/326/1562840525/F4-3600C18D-32GTZN-Specification It's a dual rank and hynix CJR/DJR die unfortunately. Rest of the specs: Ryzen 5 3600 (4.375 at 1.2v) Asus B550 Strix-F Gaming Wifi Included is the screenshot of Thaipoon the the DRAM Calculator result. Any help would be appreciated especially if you have the same exact die, can i have your settings?
  18. What Happened?: Heres what I did; powered down the PC, turned off PSU, held power button for 10secs, removed all RAM, removed RAM heatsinks, rebooted, duel BIOS repaired by corrupted BIOS, rebooted, boot failed, went into BIOS and changed RAM profile to 2134Mhz, rebooted, failed, rebooted with same settings, sucsess and RAM is at 2134MHz. Does anyone know what I could have done to cause this? And is it a sign of damaged components? Whats Next?: Two builds coming up soon that I will be blogging on and some updates to my other blogs, Smokey's Chronicles and Smokey Attempts: The Red Mod. Thank you :)
  19. i need some help an advice on tightening my timings on my 2 sets of Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory & gigabyte AORUS B450M im currently running a 2933mhz i was at 3200mhz but found it more stable at 29.33 with 1.35v the current timings are 16-19-19-42 these are the default untouched were should i start in adjusting i dont use xmp as it made the pc at boot an main desktop load hang up more about 12sec extra at boot an 7 at desktop load after sign in on pop os 21.04 without xmp it didnt hang up but the could be from not the best timings note xmp hang up was same at 3200 also so any help on this would help ? my load out setup is cpu - 2600x oc to 4.07ghz mobo - gigabyte AORUS B450M ram - 2 x Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 gpu - gigabyte aorus 1660 super oc g1 - vertical mounted drives - 2 x Crucial P1 500GB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD ( 1 va pci adapter ) cpu cooler - arctic freezer II 120MM aio psu - evga supernova g3 650watt (with cablemods custom cables) fans - x 6 NOCTUA ( 2x 140mm industrialPPC-3000 PWM ) top exhaust ( 4 x 120mm industrialPPC-3000 PWM ) 1 rear 3 front intakes case - Corsair 275R Airflow ( custom yellow paint job ) Monitor - AOC C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor mouse - Logitech G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse keyboard - Drop Shift Mechanical Keyboard Anodized Aluminum (Gray, Barebones) with Switches - Kailh Box Ancient Grey & Kailh BOX dark yellow Keycaps - Retro Steampunk Set dac - Grace Design Standard DAC Balanced amp - schiit magnius cans - monolith m570
  20. Hi guys, I'm tweaking my ram timings with the help of Ryzen DRAM Calculator. Everything seems good so far, plus 10 FPS on my most played game. I haven't tested for full stability using memtest86, I'll do it later. I'd like to know what to do with some settings in my BIOS that don't match the ones showed in the CALCULATOR. See the images below. I'm not sure what to do with tRFC because it shows as only "tRFC" in the calculator but I have more than one tRFC setting in my BIOS. Also RTT_NOM and RTT_PARK don't allow me to set RZQ/7(34), I can only disable the setting or set a value in ohms. What should I do? Help me out pls! Is there any step by step guide on how to use the calculator properly?
  21. Hi, I have 16gb of tridentZ rgb CL16-18-18-38, I'm new to the whole timing thing and overclocking but my ram seems to be running at 2133 after enabling XMP. could anyone help me with overclocking the ram in mhz to something more like 2500-2600? also could I have help figuring out timings and how to correctly time my ram. Any help is greatly appreciated
  22. I'm undecided whether to buy which 16GB RAM Kit. I'm going to pair it with an Ryzen 3600 or 3300x. The options are: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory CAS Latency 16, Timings 16-18-18-36 69,90€ ~ 76,65$ or G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory CAS Latency 19, Timings 19-20-20-40 71.90€ ~ 78,84$ Both are the cheapest RAM Kits at their Speeds in Germany. Which should i choose and why? From looking it up I only found some people saying that you should first look at the speed and then at the CAS-Latency when comparing kits of the same speeds. But that seems too generalized for me. Thank you in advance.
  23. I have 4 idential RAM sticks in my system, the only difference being the color of the heat spreader with (2 set bought at the same time in the same set. CMK16GX4M2B3000C15). When I have them all installed I get memory errors (Prime95) but when I just install 2 DIMMs at a time I have no errors. The fact that they independently work with no errors tells me that there are not hardware problems, but I cant figure out why when I have them all installed I do have problems. I do have the clock speed and timings dialed back to 2666, 16-18-18-35 and 1.4v in the 4 DIMM configuration. Do I need to lower the speed or loosen the timings more? Motherboard: ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING Processor: AMD R5-2600
  24. Hello, Today I decided to open up my Asus R510VX to clean it up as it was heating a lot and I noticed my RAM was soldered on the MB. I searched on the web the text that was written on it and found it was an 8GB 2133Mhz with 16-16-16 timings. I thought about upgrading to 16GB since I have a slot open and I can only find CL15 timings. Is it ok to mix them?
  25. Hi For a couple of weeks now I've been at it overclocking my ram. I am at the point where I've taken some steps back and am trying a different approach. I can't seem to find an up to date guide on the OC importance order for memory timings, out of everything I read I understand that the order is: CL tRP tRAS tRCD Is this accurate? Also does DDR4 15-18-19-32 3600mhz look better than 17-20-20-38 3800mhz? I'm still testing the latter and currently found the lowest stable to be CL of 17, next up should I try to lower tRP first or tRCD? On one hand I see Luke saying in a 3 year old video that in theory CL/ram speed is the important formula, so 15/1800 is better than 17/1900, issue is that I'm not even done lowering the 3800 OC timings and I notice better benchmarks on 3800's current stable timing values... Also I got a voltage of 1.36 set > my msi B450 mortar max sets/reports it set to 1.38v so I assume that's a real setting and won't up the voltage since I wanna be safe, but I increased the timings a lot to become stable for now. Extra details to my OC journey: I was stable in memtest86 for nights/ more than 7-8h, past 8-9 back to back tests multiple times while working on the 3600 timings, made the mistake to go into secondary timings one by one, got it so weirdly unstable that not even 16-19-19-36 (original XMP is 3600 16-19-19-39) perhaps it had to do with memory training/ how motherboard set some secondary timings automatically while I was messing with some of them but not all since dram calc seems unreliable for me. So after a couple bios sets/ resets and some more memtest86 from square 0 I went a night of testing the ram in memtest86 at XMP profile values, which passed (still there's a small buggy monster inside my brain that wispers I'm not 100% sure the ram's not broken after that wierd all of a sudden not stable by reverting back over and over again to previously deemed stable timings due to nights of memtest error free passes) But RAM doesn't all of a sudden error out in memtest like first/second pass consistency then consistently pass multiple passes without errors? As you can see I've got a lot of uncertainties on my mind... but the journey continues, if it's bad RAM at least I'll see it fail again now while tightening timings than have it fail in windows (which it never did since I'm doing this, I only modify then test in memtest86).
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