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So I have want to upgrade my PC but I'm on a budget. I already have a B360 mobo and 8gb ddr4 2400mhz RAM. Is it worth upgrading to a Ryzen 3000 CPU and getting new mobo and faster RAM or will I stick with my 2400mhz RAM and b360 mobo and get an i5 9400f?

So Ryzen 3000 is quite literally just around the corner with CPUs expected to be on sale by either June or July. Listed below is the RUMORED Ryzen 3000 series lineup, so comment what CPU you would choose if you were building a new Ryzen 3000-based system and why. Im personally waiting for Ryzen 4000 so the 7nm process is refined and matured and because my R5 1600 build is still going strong and tearing most games apart. To summarize this table, it seems like even hardcore gamers could get away with a Ryzen 3 3300 and with some overclocking, achieve the ultimate 144 FPS with an appropriate graphics card, an unprecedented value that has never before been seen in the gaming community. I would personally reach for the Ryzen 7 3700. With 12 Cores and 24 threads on tap, this beast will EASILY handle any games as well as any sort of multitasking and even some workstation tasking. This CPU should also easily demolish every daily task and even provide an optimal gaming + streaming experience. In comparison to the 3700X, some manual overclocking with a decent cooling solution should yield around 5.1-5.2 GHz clock speeds, pushing the absolute limits of what any game can dish out. Ryzen 9 seems to only make sense to those who want a premium workstation experience for professional editing and or scientific work. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for any regular user, gamer, or even YouTuber to require 16 Cores and 32 threads to provide a pleasant and speedy computing experience. When Ryzen 4000 rolls around, Ill take the equivilant of the R7 3700 (4700 likely), a nice X670 board, GTX 2180Ti (assuming Nvidia refreshes the 2000 series at some point), 32GB of 3200+MHz RAM, and a custom water loop featuring the Hardware Labs Black Ice Nemesis GTX 420 and a block for both CPU and GPU, and toss it into the open-air Thermaltake Core P3. Add in a 1TB NVME boot SSD, 2TB standard SATA SSD for games, and a 2-4TB 7200RPM HDD for backups and long term storage, and I think I would have myself one hell of a setup that would probably last a decade considering the issues facing FABs in trying to go smaller than 7nm. So what do you guys think? Lets hear those build ideas!

AMD has announced their Ryzen 5 3600 a few days ago on their website https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/processors/11781,11756,11761,11766,11771 According to them, the ryzen 3600 is also a 6c 12t CPU same as 2600. Should I just buy the Ryzen 5 2600 or what?

Sorry, I know, vague question but for context, I’m planning to buy the new R5 3600, or possibly a 3700(x) depending on pricing/budget. The 2 motherboards I’m currently looking at would be the Asrock b450m pro4 or steel legend (leaning towards the steel legend), and then the Asrock x570m pro 4 (GN had a picture of it from Computex). The X570M according to GN has a 8+2 VRM while the B450 motherboards have 4+2 from what I can gather. Is it important to have those 4 extra phases when overclocking a Ryzen 5 or 7, or is the performance/stability difference nominal? Sort of related is wether PCI-E gen 4 is really needed at all, but for my use case I *probably* won’t need it seeing as I’m running a Vega 56 right now, nor have the budget or use case for any Gen 4 SSDs, let alone in RAID. I get that since neither Ryzen 3000 or the X570 board have been out for reviews yet everything is speculative, I’m more curious about the ramifications of different VRM configs.

Because X570 & Zen 2/7nm will make a big splash , and many people on older platforms (i.e. before 7th gen intel, and perhaps zen 1) might decide to upgrade, and there will be a huge amount of motherboards, and it may be hard to decide which one is the best. This is now in Beta, as I have many details on lots of X570 boards I will continue to update this, and if any of you want to help me with this, please send me a PM. Your help will be greatly appreciated, as this is a daunting task. Information with a (?) next to it signifies that I am unsure of the information. VRM info with a (?) means that I counted inductors (yes, I know, a bad thing to do, but a 12+2 phase vrm will have 14 inductors, and a 8 phase vrm will have 8.), and guessed on the VCPU and the Vsoc ratio. What I hope this will be useful for, is say you have 200$, and want a X570 motherboard. You can make a copy of the list, and delete all motherboards that are too expensive (i.e. 220$ or above), and ones that are too cheap (i.e. sub 150$). Then, you see that you have mobo A, B, and C. A and B might have better VRMs than C, but C might have more usb and better wifi. Thus, you can decide whether A is better than B, or C. THIS IS NOT A TIER LIST, Board rankings are by alphabetical and placement in their product stacks. After this is mostly completed, I might make a X570 tier list, with the help of others, as ranking imo is very much based on opinion, thus having multiple opinions and reaching a consensus on a tier list is very important. The key is on the first page, feel free to comment suggestions and questions. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j4X6MKRqaqgn2wbQnHzOfqV145F175Irz_N145KJHM8/edit?usp=sharing Thanks!

Hey all, I mostly wanna play games at 4k and some csgo at 1080p 144hz and netflix. So I'm a little confused betwen the choices below. Help me chose the right spec: Shall i go with r5 3600 with 2080ti? Or R5 3600 with 2080 super Or r7 3700x with 2080 super or 2080 ti Also 3200mhz memory 16 gigs Some x570 mobo that will research separately. Note: i don't plan on upgrading the gpu and cpu at least for the next 5 years or so. So please suggest accordingly. Also keep the bottleneck in mind. I don't want that ? Zero productivity at all. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Hey guys, I need your help with deciding my upgrade path. Im on Z170-K and 6600k right now. So CPU wise for now a 3600 wld be sufficient. 3700x could come in handy as Im making music. 1. Would you... - A: Buy Ryzen 5 3600 and see how my workloads develop. [209€] If I need more multicore performance, I can still upgrade to that and if I do itll be 4000 series, which will probably have other improvements as well, maybe even another bump in single core performance. So I'd not only jump another tier, but also generation. - B: Buy Ryzen 7 3700x, enjoy slight edge in gaming and be prepared for any realistic future music making and gaming demands. [350€] Id mostly not consider Ryzen 4000 anymore in this case, unless its gonna be vastly better energy, overclocking or SC performance wise. What if ryzen 4000 gets a "likeable" bump in single core performance though - that'd come in handy for gaming as well as making music, since DAWs profit from that? I'd mostly miss out on the latter, as I wont jump from hexa 3000 to octa 4000 but from octa core to octa core in this scenario. There will probably be less possible justification for doing the latter. I think 3900x is definitely overkill for now. Id only buy it if I really know I do need its computing power. 2. Would you... - A: Buy B450 and ditch many features apart from PCIe 4.0 [100€] - B: Buy X570 Taichi by ASrock [320€] with the possibility of TB3 (essential for music production if I upgrade devices!!!), guaranteed 4000 series support and probably easier taming of a 12core or 16core tier should I need that, BT5.0 (which I'd actually use), Wifi 6, M.2 Cooling already there, better IO, better build quality, the better Intel Lan, flashback button and other quality of life features, the possibility of PCIe 4.0. I know your probably asking yourself: why the Taichi mate? Well, its actually the build quality, intel lan, bluetooth and TB3 that I'm after. Therefor, I dont even consider like a 190€ X570 Prime or sth like that. As I'd mostly effectively pay 90ish € for PCIe 4.0 only, which out of all these upsides (apart from better VRMs than B450) is the least attractive one to me. As far as I've seen, the Taichi is the cheapest one with TB3 support out there. Prices: 1.A + 2.A = ~309€ gets me a CPU upgrade but a MB downgrade feature and quality wise (realtek instead of intel lan etc) and the board probably wont be able to handle 12 and 16 core 4000 series, if it handles 4000 series at all. Also, if I ever need TB3 or PCIe 4.0 I need to upgrade. If I need bluetooth or wifi, Ill have to look at an ugly dongle all the time, but I could live with that. 1.B + 2.A = ~ 450€ gets me the same Motherboard downsides, but an amazing CPU. I probably wont consider 4000 series then anymore, and if I dont up my music making and game developers dont start favoring octa over hexa core, Ill have overspent cpu wise. (150 bucks) 1.A + 2.B = 529€ gets me a decent CPU upgrade and a MB with all the features I could ever think of needing + just better feel, quality and stuff like bluetooth and wifi 6 without going through any hassle. Its fan is higher quality than a low end X570 board. Should I need more computing power, 4000 series will more likely be compatible than with B450 - especially the higher tier 12 and 16 core models. Should I not end up needing more computing power, but just TB3 then I dont need to do anything but buy a TB3 card. And all the while I can enjoy BT, Intel Lan, better look and quality, better IO, possibility of using PCIe 4.0 etc. 1.B + 2.B = 670€ another whopping 140 bucks more than 3600 and X570. Quite expensive already to the point where im not sure if getting a 3900x and B450 wouldve been the better option (529+100€ = 629!!!!, gets me a 12 core instead of a hexa core) what do you guys think? I have some sort of blockade, I dont know which combination to get anymore. I really appreciaty any help haha Greetings, Chris #spoiledLifeProblems

Hej folks, my new system crashes about once a week and I have no clue what the source could be. It crashed just a few minutes ago while I was playing Wolfenstein at high (not highest!) settings. This happened for the first time during gaming and I couldn't boot the system for a few minutes. I think I can exclude thermal issues because I have the following fans installed: - 200mm front bottom (intake) - 120mm rear top (exhaust) - 120mm top (exhaust) CPU and GPU use the stock coolers. All the other crashes happened always totally unexpected when I opened a folder or while I was surfing online, nothing that really challenges my system. System Config: Windows 10 -64 Bit [Version 10.0.18362.239] Ryzen 3700X default clock speed and energy plan is Ryzen Balanced Corsair 2x16 GB CL 16 3200MHZ Vengeance LPX NVIDIA 2060 Super PSU 550 Watt be quiet! Straight Power 11 Modular 80+ Gold MSI X470 GAMING PLUS AMD X470 OS SSD is a Samsung 850 EVO 250GB I'm facing this problem since I upgraded my system. Everything is new, but my OS SSD. I ran a CPU/GPU stress test at the same time and it worked fine for 10 minutes. I had no problems before the system upgrade -> SSD is fine?! Here are some driver information: NVIDIA 431.60 BIOS Brand American Megatrends Version A.A0 If you need further information, just let me know. I'll run memtest now.

So we all know that AMD's Ryzen 3000 launch was about as successful as anyone could ever realistically expect. It was amazing and AMD completely shook up the entire Desktop CPU industry for consumers. As JaysTwoCents recently said, 2019 is certainly the best year ever for PC enthusiasts. You can now get more value for your money than ever before. Ryzen 3000 shows us that AMD's IPC is now superior to Intel thanks to AMD now matching or even beating Intel in Single-Thread performance, despite much lower clock speeds. With Ryzen 3000 being such a game changer, I can't AMD needing to really aim for such a big showing next year, and I am pretty sure that they won't. AMD's own roadmap shows that 2020's scheduled release is going to be "Zen 2+", which is supposed to be a simple optimization of the 7nm process, becoming "7nm+". However, I am still choosing to wait for it for a reason. The only slight dissapointment I have with Ryzen 3000 is the slightly dissapointing clock speeds and overclocking ability. Im sure most enthusiasts feel the same way. This makes me feel AMD will focus on a simple 1-3% IPC buff with their main focus probably being on clock speeds and overclocking ability, because it is what would make the most sense. Imhoping that AMD will push for 4.5GHz All-Core or 4.8+GHz Single-Core speed rather than efficiency/lower TDP as 105W is already incredible as is for a 12 Core/24 Thread chip. What are your thoughts on possibilities for Ryzen 4000? What are you hoping for?

Planning on pulling the trigger on my first pc build in a few weeks and I feel I have most of my parts nailed down except for a motherboard. Maybe it's just me but there's just so many options and it's been a brain rattler to narrow it down to one board. I'm also not super knowledgeable about boards and retailer's spec pages don't really help. I've eyed the x370 Taichi, Prime x470 Pro, and the B450 Gaming Pro Carbon but those are the ones that have caught my eye and look good on paper but I don't have any experience with these boards. Anyways, give me some suggestions. Needs: Moderate overclocking of the 3700x Reliability ATX $150 USD +/- depending Wants: No bios updated needed unless board has bios flashback Looks good White-ish-- I'm trying to go for a black/white build Good I/O Wi-Fi RGB

Got a tridentz 3000mhz of Cl-16-18-18-38 for 90$, can i OC'ed to 3200mhz on a B450 board?

What will happen if a cpu with bent pins tries to go inside the socket?

PLEASE READ PRIOR TO COMMENT. So I have finialy taken the shot on a 3600 after owning a 1200 since release. Got the Bios on my Biostar X370 GT7 to the latest version. However dr debugger just gives me a 42 post for 3 seconds before showing F2. Then it stays in that status. I have reset bios settings and done individual component tests, Single ram, no boot drive, ect. Still no post to bios screen. Any help that is not common sense would be appreciated. Also if anyone can link me to some x370 with zen2 performance metrics, I would be further grateful.

Hi all, Was wondering if anyone has received the BIOS update yet that fixes Destiny 2 not launching on Ryzen 3000 platforms, and if so what motherboard you have from which manufacturer? Or if anyone is running Ryzen 3000 but doens't have issues running Destiny 2? And if so how they did that? Thanks in advance

Long story short : I have some rgb devices and i want to find a way for all of them to work and I am new at handling rgb By 'getting them to work' , I am not sure what is the rgb standards nowadays but i am hoping i can sync/control them with a software. This is a new pc i am building so here are the parts. ryzen 3600x rtx 2070 nvme m.2 ssd toshiba hdd silverstone 650w gold RGB stuff: id-cooling aio cooler (argb , says on product page, supports rgb fusion(gigabyte),mystic light(msi),aura sync(asus) Jonsbo LB-3 argb strip lian-li 24pin & 8 pin rgb cables *maybe* 3 argb fans? (i dont know yet would like to know what is recommended considering compatibility) *maybe*phanteks halos? *undecided* x570 motherboard to use. Currently deciding between MSI pro carbon wifi & Asrock Taichi (both of which has rgb on the board) QUESTIONS: 1) What do I need to plug/sync all the rgb devices. I did some reading and i know that theres no universal standard, but I dont mind using different softwares to handle the rgb as long as its with a software. For connecting, do I need some sort of hub ? What options are available? 2) If lets say i pick Asrock Taichi as the motherboard, which is using 'polychrome rgb' to control rgb, does this mean my other products NEED to support polychrome rgb? Or else I cannot manage them? 3)Do my rgb device have to connect to a usb header or an argb header? 4) Whats 5v, 12v , 3-pin & 4-pin

So I built my new pc today and it has a 3700X with a r9 270 (temporary) on the msi gaming edge WiFi X570 and it won’t boot. On the ez debug lights the dram light is on which in the manual means my ram isn’t working, I have the F4-3200C16D-16GVKB gskills V 3200 kit and the manual is useless for getting it working, does anyone have any suggestions?

I'm looking for a ryzen 3000 mobo for the ryzen 5 3600 is the msi x570-A pro any good or should i go with a more expensive one like the aus TUF gaming x570 plus? Maybe there is a beter mobo all together I should get? MSI x570-A pro: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X570-Motherboard-DDR4-PCIe/dp/B07T4M4XPG/ref=sr_1_5?crid=24NT50791VNNV&keywords=x570&qid=1568220209&s=gateway&sprefix=x5%2Caps%2C226&sr=8-5 ASUS TUF gaming x570 plus: https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-X570-Plus-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B07SXF8GY3/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Asus+TUF+GAMING+X570-PLUS&qid=1568222007&s=pc&sr=1-1

Well i guess who was waiting for the Ryzen 3000 gen, is going to be in a real disappointment

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3000-15-percent-ipc-uplift-4-5-ghz-x570-pcie-gen-4-40-lanes/ Seems like our friends at WCCFTech has posted more info about the Ryzen 3000 series based on 2 sources (Motherboard manufacturers). Both talk about a 10-15% IPC improvement which I really hope is true, especially for gamers as this is where they have been lacking the most. They also added more PCI-e lanes for a total of 40 PCIe Gen 4 lanes and upgraded the memory controller for better compatibility and increased speeds. I little more on how they did this: The launch window is pointing towards early July which is in line with the 7/7 speculations.

I was on HotHardware and saw this https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-16-core-cpu-benchmark-leak-52ghz-boost oh mygaaaawd 5.2 GHz?!?!

Hi I was wondering if my G.Skill AEGIS DDR4-2133 C15 DC 2x8GB is good enough for the new Ryzen 3000. I'm going from a 6700K so new I need a new motherboard as well, but that's not too difficult to find.

Hi All I am looking into building a PC with a Ryzen 3000 processor but I would like to ask what RAM speed should be used. I know from the past generations the higher the frequency the better but how fast is enough so as not to waste money. I plan to use this PC for gaming, productivity and basic video editing. I also would like to ask how important the CAS Latency is and which one I should choose based on that. Thank you all for your time!!

Recently I have purchased Ryzen 7 3700x, Asus TUF x570 Plus MOBO, Corsair 3000mhz 16GB stick, nVidia RTX 2060, Samsung m2 256GB ssd, now recently I have come across a multiple blue screen error and restart. Does anyone facing similar issue, In the blue screen it shows Critical structure error, etc, Bios is on latest update and use the genuine copy of Windows 10pro which was recently purchased as well.

Hi everyone, I (finally) upgraded from i5-3470 to a Ryzen 7 3700X, MSI X570 A PRO with latest firmware, 32 (2x16) GB Corsair Vengance LPX 3200 MHz and I was wondering what the consensus is on voltages. I set everything to Auto and idle voltages in both Windows and UEFI (BIOS) are hovering around 1.48v. I tried with both XMP on (3200 MHz) and off (2666 MHz), with no difference. I have disabled Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) and still I am getting high idle voltages. It is only when I disable Core Performance Boost that voltages drop to 1v and below (0.925 ish). However in doing so, the clock speed stays at 3.6 GHz constantly in Windows. I am using Ryzen Balanced power plan with Minimum state to 2% and maximum state at 100%. I plan on installing a Linux distro (Fedora) to check if this is an issue with Windows as I've had good experience with Threadripper and Fedora but I've seen a ton of posts on Reddit about the voltage issue. So my question is, what is the recommended settings right now? Is 1.48v at idle normal even in BIOS? Why does Core Performance Boost lower voltages so much and why the constant clock speeds? I don't want to prematurely destroy a new CPU. Thanks

So I have been in desperate need of a new CPU im running an old 4790k, with 2 1080ti's. I have managed to hold out for the Ryzen 3000 release. Im trying to decide what CPU I should pair with my GPUs so I dont bottleneck my rig. I am primarily doing just gaming with some other light tasks but I would like to run games at 1440p and 4k at high refresh rates. I have been looking at 4 CPUs the 3700x, the 3800x, 3900x and the 9900k. First of will the extra cores of the 3900x benefit me since im running SLI? Or will higher clock speed ultimately win out. Especially since Ryzen 3000 seems to OC poorly? Im just not sure how these CPUs will effect SLI.