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Hi, I'm new to overclocking and wanted to ask why enabling the XMP profile on my RAM cause my games to crash? I have an MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max and T-Force Delta RGB 8x2 GB 3600 mHz. I've already updated my BIOS before installing my operating system and downloaded the latest drivers for my motherboard (from the MSI support website). Some other things worth noting: I use an HDD as my only drive because I have yet to purchase an NVME SSD, I have a Ryzen 5 2600X and an RX 580. Both my CPU and GPU are running on their base speed. I've only tried boosting my RAM. My friend advised me to try running my RAM on its base speed (2400 mHz) and see what happens. And surely, my games run just fine. I'm just curious if there is a way to utilize the maximum performance of my RAM without having issues.

Hi there, I would like to buy the Samsung 980 PRO PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSD 2TB and put on the fastest (blazing) m.2 slot of a ASRock X670E PG Lightning ATX AM5 Motherboard. However on the motherboards QVL list for storage it doesn't list the 2TB version of the Samsung 980 Pro PCIe 4.0, only the 1TB version. Does this mean the 2TB version of the drive won't work at all since it's not on the QVL list or does it just mean it hasn't been tested officially by the motherboard OEM? If the latter is true then does anyone have any experience with pairing together a Samsung 980 PRO PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSD 2TB and a ASRock X670E PG Lightning ATX AM5 Motherboard or similar ASRock board in the fastest blazing m.2 slot? I'm also welcome for suggestions for alternative 2TB PCIe 4.0 drives if the Samsung 2TB won't work. Thanks.

Hello, I am wondering regarding Ram combability with my new motherboard. I have decided on buying a ASUS TUF GAMING B650-Plus WIFI for my new computer and when looking and the qvl list it list KF560C36BBEK2-32 (FURY Beast DDR5 6000) as compatible and I would like to buy KINGSTON FURY Beast DDR5 RGB 6000 but this is not listed as compatible with my motherboard on qvl even the this site: https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/kingston-fury-beast-rgb-32gb-2x16gb-ddr5-6000-cl36/motherboard says it does. My question is is it any difference in the rgb vs non-rgb RAM that makes it non compatible will I be safe in using the KINGSTON FURY Beast DDR5 RGB 6000 in my new rig ether way?

Hello! I am looking forward to purchase parts for my next PC, next year. I'd like to buy the following parts: 1. CPU: Ryzen 9 7900X 2. Motherboard: Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master 3. Memory: Kingston Fury Beast KF556C36BBEK2-64 (2x32GB DDR5-5600MT/s CL36 @1.25V EXPO/XMP) Issue: That specific memory kit is not on the QVL of the motherboard. Questions: 1. Will that kit work in this setup? 2. How risky is it to purchase non-QVL RAM?

Hi, After being messaged around for a few weeks by amazon I refunded my order of Trident Z Neo and am yet again looking at buying this to pair with a 5900x - https://uk.crucial.com/memory/ddr4/bl2k16g36c16u4wl - and hoping it turns up as a dual rank kit. However after checking the mobo qvl (Asus b550-e) I can't seem to find it on there... Can anybody tell me if this memory will be fine or if has been used with this mobo before? Thanks for the help, Stay safe, Lex.

Hey everybody, just a couple quick questions...I have some B-Die in my 5950X system at the moment running at 3800 16-16-16-36 1.47v instead of the stock 3200 14-14-14-34 1.35v for these sticks (I threw the Thaiphoon Burner report on my site and it can be found here if you're curious about the details) and it runs hotter than I'd prefer 24/7...even with a decent fan on them with a 50-100% curve (They idle at 30c and ramp up to the 40's when stressed) but I decided to live with it and just let them cook until my next upgrade. Now, a situation has come up and it looks like I'm gonna build a new system and since I have to get some new memory anyway (Most of the DDR4 I have sitting around is garbage like 3200 C16 stuff) I looked at the QVL list (I used this website to check it then verified directly on MSI's QVL page since this website had direct price links) for my motherboard and I was pretty disappointed by the options for a few reasons: 1: Almost all of the high-end memory kits (4000+ and under CL18) are either 2 x 8GB single rank and aren't certified for using 4 sticks. 2: The available kits that are decent are obscenely expensive right now...like seriously, why would this kit be so expensive? Because it has "Dominator" written on it? It's a CL19 kit! 3: Most of the 8GB sticks like the ones I'm using now were only verified with 2 sticks in the board. So, my requirements are as follows: Capacity: 32GB+, I use this PC for work in addition to games and this is a bare minimum for me. Speed: I'd like to have a >=4000 kit as I'll be gaming and it seems like there are gains to be had up to this point at 1:1 FCLK:UCLK. Latency: I generally see gains in the work I do the lower the latency here and the 3200 CL14 sticks I've used since I had an 8086K in it have served me well in this regard so I'd like to go as low as possible without huge increases in price. Ranks: I'd like a quad-rank setup for the gains here and preferably using 16GB+ DIMMs since I may want to expand in the future to 64GB+. RGB: Not a consideration, I got the Vengeance RGB set originally because nothing else was available. Special Considerations: Maximum Speed of my Infinity Fabric: My 5950X seems to cap at 1900 or so before spitting out WHEA errors...system still runs fine up to 2000 (haven't tried higher) and tests well but the WHEA errors scared me off as I have several RAIDs in my system that I was worried about corrupting (Not sure if the H710P SAS12 card would error-correct in this case or if it would even be an issue since I wasn't reading/writing to those drives during testing). I'm also hopeful that there will be an AGESA update at some point which will add some speed to that maximum so I want to be "4000 Ready" if you know what I mean. What I've done so far: A: I narrowed my search down to 2 sets... 1: G.Skill PC4000 CL15 1.5v - 4 x 8GB - $449.99 Model: F4-4000C15Q-32GTZR Thoughts: XMP @ 1.5v seems like it's running at the edge stock...this would probably be as high a speed and the lowest timings achievable straight from the factory. Also, 4 x 8GB so I'd be maxed out right away. Type of Chips: Samsung B-Die 2: G.Skill PC4000 CL17 1.4v - 2 x 16GB - $309.99 Model: F4-4000C17D-32GTZRB Thoughts: XMP @ 1.4v seems okay...I'd have 0.1v to play with to see if I could tighten timings. Also, I'd have 2 slots free to expand into in the future which is nice. I don't need 64GB now but I may later. Type of Chips: Samsung B-Die B: I've preemptively purchased a set so I have it when the motherboard I ordered arrives, I ordered the 2nd set for the reasons above but my questions are: 1: Is this set "better" than the one I have? Basically, am I more likely to get more performance out of this set? Is it worth $150 more for the CL15 set (And worth losing the upgradeability)? Is it more likely to hit higher speeds since it's on the QVL or will I probably be stuck with the same limit of 1900Mhz before I hit the WHEA wall? 2: Do sets like these with higher "stock" speeds and lower timings tend to run cooler than kits rated at 3200 (or similar) overclocked to that speed or is it simply amount of voltage = amount of heat (Or is it like a CPU where higher clocks draw more amps so that times voltage ends up being your approximate heat output)? Is the lower stock voltage as good of a thing as I think it is? 3: Would a higher clock kit like this, this, this, this, this, this, this, or even this be better overall despite having 2 ranks or (worst case scenario) desyncing the FCLK/UCLK? I watched a Hardware Canucks video showing 5100Mhz memory that was sometimes worth desyncing but I'd imagine too much lower than that and you'd probably be better off synced. Edit: Maybe something like this 5333 kit x 2 which isn't too expensive and just disregards the 2000 limit in favor of a 2:1 clock instead, would that be better? Edit 2: Maybe even something that would be around the same price like these 5066 CL20 kits from G.Skill like this $169 one or this $199 one respectively? So what should I do in your opinions? Stick with the one I bought? Try to find a 3800 CL14 kit? OC This one to that? I'm not sure but I think the one I got seems pretty decent to work with but feel free to tell me I'm wrong lol...thanks!

Hello there , My motherboard is Asrock Z490 Taichi with Core I9-10900K So yesterday i bought Thermaltake Toughram 3600mhz DDR4 (8x4GB) ram but unfortunately its out of stock for corona pandemic in my country. So they gave me two options either refund or take the Gigabyte Aorus 3600mhz (8x4GB) ram but its not my Motherboard QVL list. Should i go for Aorus 3600mhz ? I don't know their quality. Thanks for helping.

I currently have a Gigabyte X570 aorus elite. With 2 8GB dimms. But i want to upgrade to 4 dimms but on the support list is says it only supports 2 dimms. What will happen if I install 2 new ones.

Hi Everyone. I am pulling what hair I have left out trying to figure out this problem. I have a Crosshair VIII Dark Hero motherboard running 4201 with a 5900X, and an ROG Strix 3070. I have tried 4 different memory kits and every one of them lock up my system within an hour. It doesn't matter if I have D.O.C.P. on or not. 2 of the memory kits are on the QVL and still have the same problem. When the system freezes the yellow DRAM debug light is ON and I have to hard power off the power supply to restart my pc. The 4 RAM kits i have tried are G.Skill F4-4000C18D-32GTRS, and 3 Corsair memory kits, CMT64GX4M4Z3600C16, CMT32GX4M2Z3600C14, and CMT32GX4M4K3600C16 On average this happens 5 to 15 times a day. I have tried another brand new CPU and even took back the first Dark Hero board I bought and got another one but still the same problem. If anyone can help me get my system stable i would be forever greatful.

Hi guys, so i'm quite curious about if my motherboard isn't in the QVL list of the ram's website. I'm getting ASRock X570 STEEL LEGEND WIFI AX AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard and the ram is G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTZN, will it cause any problem?

Need help from anyone who owns an AORUS Pro x570 itx board. I'm eyeing the Aorus Pro x570 ITX board as it supported both my CPU and my RAM was on the QVL, but I noticed that SYSFAN_2 header socket is inverted and is a dedicate header for the m.2 slot... I find this super stupid, as it means there's only technically 2 fan headers available. Is there a cable included to be able to use that header like a normal fan header? Or is the only option to pretty much cut off the plastic guard? I'm in need of upgrading my motherboard, due to potentially my one being bogus and I'll just upgrade it whilst I'm at it rather than fighting with my half capable retailer. (Story is here if you're interested) I was checkign out the x570 lines as they do support 2700x and in the future I'll be able to upgrade my CPU into 5000 series at least, and hopefully 6000. Also, how important is the RAM QVL list in terms of support? As per acryonm the QVL is Qualified Vender List, so it's tested by the makers that the parts work 100% I know that, but If I get a mobo that doesn't have my RAM in the QVL how much of a gamble is it in terms of support; again the link in the above sentence might give some context in terms of why I'm asking this. If the SYSFAN_2 is not available for normal header use then I might as well just get a ASUS Strix board.

I built my PC back in January and have been enjoying it since. However, recently, I have been getting MEMORY_MANAGEMENT errors while playing videogames. Like Apex Legends and Doom Eternal. I contacted Microsoft support and he took a look at me motherboards QVL and noticed my memory is not listed there. Motherboard: Aorus X570-I Pro Wifi Memory: F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC [32Gb 3600Mhz G.Skill tridentZ Neo] The motherboard QVL for my CPU (Ryzen 5 3600) doesnt have my memory listed. But the memory QVL does have my motherboard listed. So, I am running into these memory management blue screens quite often while playing games and was wondering if I really do need to buy some new ram. And if so, which comparable one would work best? i.e. a 2 stick 32GB 3600Mhz ram. Memory QVL Motherboard QVL

So I'm picking parts for a PC that I'm building for my friend and I settled for a ryzen 3600 and an rx 5700 xt, which I'm going to install in either an Asus b450-f gaming or Msi b450 Tomahawk Max motherboard. My problem is that I don't know if these motherboards support 3600mhz ram for zen 2 CPUs. I checked their Qualified Vendors List and it says that it supports the memory I want (Corsair RGB 16GB, CMW16GX4M2C3600C18), but I've read in some forums that people haven't been able to make their systems run stabily with the same motherboards @3600mhz. Can anyone confirm that these b450 motherboards indeed support 3600mhz memory as the manufacturers state? I trouble with memory support in my old zen 1 PC and I don't want my friend to go through the same nightmare. [link to both motherboards QVL list] - https://imgur.com/gallery/y2M8FEX Thanks

Hi guys, (this is my first post so my apologies if this has been covered previously on this forum) My motherboard Docs list QVL vendors for power supplies. Is this a do-or-die scenario or am I okay to stray from this list without getting into trouble? (I also would like to know the answer to this question in regards to Graphics Cards) Thanks for any and all info...and please be gentle! John

Hi all, Building B350 mobo, looking between Gigabyte Gaming 1 Gigabyte Gaming 3 2 MSI Mate 3 MSI Tomahawk 4 MSI Tomahawk Artic 5 Looked at 2400 speed (part number shortened) Corsair M2A22400c16 for 116 USD 12345 Kingston Fury 424c15fbk2/16 for 116 USD 345 Kingston Fury 424c15fb2k2/16 for 128 USD 12 GSkill FlareX 2400C15D-16GFX for 120 USD 1 2666 G.Skill Rip V F4-2666c15d-16gvr for 115 usd 345 then looked at 3000, But when looking at the QVL each brand provide especially MSI, the Corsair 3000 is absent and I am asking whether if the QVL the manufacturers' release are the only RAM sticks able to be used in each mobo AS well as any good recommendations for compatible Ryzen RAM The budget for (16GB) (2x8) sticks between (2400 - 3000 speed): under 140USD, and including but not limited to Corsair, G.Skill, Crucial, Kingston Thanks a lot !!! https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK-ARCTIC.html#support-mem https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-PC-MATE.html#support-mem download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ab350-gaming3.pdf download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ab350-gaming3.pdf

EDIT 11/JUN/17 - NONE OF THIS MATTERS ANYMORE. RYZEN HAS BEEN UPDATED, FOR THE MOST PART, WITH SUPPORT FOR HYNIX AND LOWER END SAMSUNG KITS, MAKING QVL USELESS. So, most Ryzen builds on here that I've seen are thrown together with the cheapest memory possible for that speed. I've even done this myself, so I can't exactly talk shit. But not all memory works with every system - it's very hit and miss. Some boards are NOT patched with the new IMC patch. Depending on when you read this, your board may have the patch and works fine with memory, but it may not. Here's how to find memory that has been validated by the OEM. Ryzen motherboards have a QVL (essentially a list of validated working memory kits). Every board should have one, but it may differ. Cheaper boards have worse QVLs from what I've seen. So for example, I want to make a build with the AsRock AB350 Fatal1ty Gaming K4. The 3200Mhz fancy G.Skill Ryzen kit is $180 and isn't on the QVL. Opening up the AsRock page for the board, you can go to the 'Support' tab and click on 'memory QVL' to display the QVL list. Scrolling down to Corsair, there is a 16GB 3000Mhz kit. Highlight the model number. Copying that into PCPartPicker's Memory category shows 4 kits with differing prices, with the cheapest being $110USD: This is just one example - there is loads of boards with differing QVLs and differing memory speed maximums. The goal of this guide is to give you a way to get cheaper Ryzen memory while making sure it works with your board and CPU fine. Hope this helped you - Droidbot EDIT 1: Obligatory reference to /r/AMD's RAM Kit list - you can expect up to 3200 MHz with Samsung B-Die, up to 2933 MHz with Samsung E-Die and the same as E-Die on Hynix kits.

Hey everyone! As what the title says, I was wondering if I should follow the QVL when building a PC? I'm a first-time PC builder planning to do a Ryzen 3 gaming PC and I'm quite aware that most RAM have compatibility problems with most AM4 motherboards (as of now, at least). Thanks in advance!

I am looking at three different Z370 motherboards, these are the AORUS Z370 Gaming 7 Mobo (240AIO Masterliquid lite included), Z370 PRIME A and STRIX Z370 E/F. I am looking at several different RAM, mainy the Dominator Platinum and LP 16gb kits at 3000 MHz and 16gb of trident Z RGB at either 3.2ghz or 3ghz. I am unable to find if any of these kits are incompatible with these boards. Any help is appreciated *Side Note* What are your thoughts on the motherboard choices and what is your opinion on the 240MM aio masterliquid lite from Coolermaster? Thank you for your time

My old build is an fx 8350 with an asus m5a 97 le r2.0 with 4GB DDR 3 1866mhz * 2 of ram. I Checked my mobo's QVL that was supplied with the manual and the one online ,they're the same . When I checked for my RAM's part number in the qvl i could not find it and i have been using my PC for about 2 and 1/2 years now and no I have not seen any crash issues or stability issues with that RAM. Now I am sure that we all know that QVL's are not accurate and contains the part number of only those DIMM's that the vendor themselves have tested on their boards, but this does not indicate that the other DIMM's that were not mentioned in the list will not work with the motherboard. The problem seems to be a lack of communication beetween the ram vendors and the mobo vendors for example Kingston shows that certain DIMM's are compatible with Ryzen systems but Gigabyte does not have that part name is their QVL for their b 350 gaming 3 boards furthermore with the rise of AMD compatible certification on DIMM's of some vendors such as G.skill new builders may consider these DIMM's to be compatible with only AMD systems which is not true at all, Right?????? .Honestly The AMD compatible certification feels like the SLi and Crossfire compatible logo's some PSU vendors have on their boxes . I know most of our forum member's are experienced but hopefully this thread will serve as a guide to many new builders who are going through something similar to this.

Well, pardon my asking such a rookie question, but I've got some problem with my memory kit& motherboard. 1st, motherboard is asrock b450m pro4, whereas memory is this one: Patriot Viper Elite Series 2800Mhz 2x4GB (PVE48G280C6KRD) I know the board does not list these rams on the QVL, but I wanted to buy the whole package in the same store, and they only had these in 2x4gb with reasonable speed. Browsing through reviews, I thought these would work well with 2933Mhz frequency @1,35V, but unfortunately not. The most I can get is 2666Mhz. Some additional details: Manual of MoBo clearly indicates, that rams must be installed in slots A2-B2, whereas I got the PC with rams installed in A1-B1. I tried moving them to A2-B2, but then, the pc would not even boot, nor even to UEFI. I moved them back to A1-B1, and been running them at 2666Mhz ever since. Is it possible, that fixing the proper placement issue would make it work? ie.: A2-B2, with 2933Mhz Cl16 timing, 1.35V. Or an UEFI update might help? (btw, is there any specific restriction that UEFI must be installed by version to version, not skipping right to the latest driver?) Any input would be good, unfortunately, I'm out of ideas for now. Anyone with the same board with "incorrectly" installed RAM-s? Anyone with the same model RAMs? Thanks in advance for the responses.

Hello guys, I am building a PC with 2080 super and 3700x on b450 tomahawk max, I was wondering which 3600mhz ram to buy, because the one I like is not on the QVL (QUALIFIED VENDORS LIST) and I am worried that there may be problems? Can you please help me??

Hi all, I am very confused. I am looking at the MSI QVL for the board I am thinking of buying to find out which memory would go well with it. The board is the B450 Gaming plus Max (QVL: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-GAMING-PLUS-MAX#support-mem-19). I'm not sure I understand what the 1|2|4 Dimm stands for, does it mean if it only is checked for 1 and 2 Dimms that it won't work (at the reported speed) with 4 Dimms? I want to start of with 16GBs and then expand to 32 if needed (Blender and gaming, possible Unity) Also I am now looking at this GSkill Aegis set since it's relatively cheap, it's present in the QVL and, if I do understand the check-marks correctly, can be used with 4 modules. Is it worth spending about 25 euros more on 3200MHz RAM? Will be using it with a Ryzen 5 3600 to replace a 1231V3 with 16GB DDR3@1600MHz. Thanks

Greetings. First time speccing out parts in nine years. Last build / current system is on the 2600K. New build will be used for home workstation (graphic design / photo editing and retouching) and gaming. Applications will be Adobe Illustrator, InDesign, Photoshop, and Xd. Thinking about going with the Ryzen 5 3600 and an affordable B450 mobo in the form of an MSI B450-A PRO. I've checked the QVL for this mobo to look for compatible RAM, since I know how Ryzen loves fast RAM. However...I wanted to get a Crucial MX500 512GB SSD, but the QVL doesn't list it. How important is it for SSDs to be on QVL? I'm considering saving money by using my old PSU, but... How do I know if a PSU is still in good shape? I'm currently running a Corsair AX850 Gold. It had a seven-year warranty, which it's living way past that time frame.

So I have a Ryzen 2700X with a ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming motherboard, and just recently checked the manufacturers QVL list for 2nd generation Ryzen CPUS to see what RAM it supports. The RAM I'm looking at, F4-3600C18D-16GTZRX was listed on there, however the timimgs on the QVL were listed as 18-22-22-42. Meanwhile the market, lists this RAM as 16-18-18-38? Does this mean, I can only achieve the specified timings on the QVL and that the market reference is not accurate for my motherboard? If this is the case, do yall think it's still worth getting? Or is the G.Skill Flare X 3200Mhz 14-14-14-34 a better pick?

OK so I'm building a ryzen 2600+ MSI b450 tomahawk. I looked up the QVL on MSI website and obviously, many 16gb 3200mhz kits which are available in the market aren't listed there. I wanted to know whether I need to refer to the qvl even for 2666/2667 MHz speeds. Because there are a few 2666 modules which aren't there in the qvl. So under/equal to what speed will a ram run at the rated speed even if its not listed in the qvl. Is it 2400 or is it 2666. Because both are non-oc speeds. Thank you and please reply.