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I have an old desktop with a 4gb ram with core i3 3220 @3.3ghz on board. I was planning to upgrade this pc. I am thinking to add an i7 3770k and rx480 8gb or an evga gtx 1070 sc only. this pc only for transition only, I am planning build an working station after 1 and a half year, may I have some suggestion? thanks

Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10799/apple-announces-4th-generation-macbook-pro-family-thinner-lighter-with-thunderbolt-3-touch-bar The rumored Macbook Pros are finally here, and with them, most of the rumored features. There's an OLED Touch Bar, Touch ID, and much, much more. 4th GenMacBook Pro Lineup Model 2015 15" 2016 13" (basic) 2016 13" (touch) 2016 15" Dimensions 1.8 cm x 35.89 cm x 24.71 cm 1.49 cm x 30.41 cm x 21.24 cm 1.55 cm x 34.93 cm x 24.07 cm Weight 4.49 lbs (2.04 kg) 3.02 lbs (1.37 kg) 4.02 lbs (1.83 kg) CPU 2.2GHz Core i7-4770HQ (Haswell) 2.0GHz Core i5-6360U (Skylake) 2.9GHz Core i5-6267U (Skylake) 2.0GHz Core i7-6700HQ (Skylake) GPU Intel Iris Pro 5200 Intel Iris Graphics 540 Intel Iris Graphics 550 Intel HD Graphics 530 + Radeon Pro 450 (2GB) Display 15" 2880 x 1800 IPS LCD sRGB Gamut 13" 2560 x 1600 IPS LCD P3 Gamut 15" 2880 x 1800 IPS LCD P3 Gamut Memory 16GB DDR3L-1600 8GB LPDDR3-1866 8GB LPDDR3-2133 16GB LPDDR3-2133 SSD 256GB PCIe SSD (PCIe x2) 256GB PCIe SSD Toucb Bar No No Yes I/O 2x Thunderbolt 2 (supports DP1.2), 1x HDMI 1.4, 2x USB 3.0 (Type-A), 3.5mm Audio, SDXC Slot 2x Thunderbolt 3 (supports DP1.2 & USB 3.1 Gen 2 modes), 3.5mm Audio 4x Thunderbolt 3 (supports DP1.2 & USB 3.1 Gen 2 modes), 3.5mm Audio Battery Capacity 99.5 Wh 54.5 Wh 49.2 Wh 76 Wh Battery Life 9 Hours 10 Hours Price $1999 $1499 $1799 $2399 The new Macbook Pros are packed full of new features, but along with the new features comes a huge increase in price. Even the "basic" Macbook Pro's base offering is even more expensive than last year's base Macbook Pro. Granted, it contains double the storage, but even then the "basic" Macbook Pro costs the same as last year. That's not even mentioning the "fancy" Macbook Pros, which cost a few hundred dollars more than last years. Still though, there's some cool new features in the new 2016 models that should be mentioned. We're getting a new thinner and lighter Macbook Pro this year, that also has some other changes. Among this is a bigger trackpad, a butterfly switch keyboard (basically the same as the one on the Macbook), and Thunderbolt 3 ports on the side. The only I/O on this year's Macbook Pros is Thunderbolt 3 and a headphone jack. This offers a huge amount of bandwidth and the ports can be used for charging, too, but this also means a lot of your peripherals will need adapters now. We also get upgraded internals, in the form of Skylake, Polaris GPUs on the 15" Macbook Pro, and a new, faster SSD. As well, it has been said that the new displays have "variable refresh rate," so it'll be interesting if the new Macs come with freesync. OLED Touch Bar The new Macs also have the largely rumored OLED Touch Bar on the top above the keyboard. The bar is only present on the more expensive "fancy" Macbook Pros, and replaces the function keys. The program running can change what's displayed on the bar which gives many different things that can be done with it. This is pretty cool IMO, and how much it can really be used in the real world will remain to be seen. Touch ID Also rumored and true, the new Macs have a Touch ID fingerprint sensor on the side of the OLED Bar. It's a physical button that also functions as the power button. This seems cool, as signing in will be a lot simpler. That's pretty much everything we know about the new Macs. We didn't get a new Macbook Air or Macbook; the "basic" Macbook Pro is supposed to replace the Air (though I'm not sure how that'll work if it's around 50% more expensive). They seem pretty cool and have a lot of cool features though the price is pretty expensive. What are your thoughts? I personally find them as really cool, neat laptops, but the price really ruins it. Note: I have a feeling someone's gonna come and be like "Repost!" No, it's not a repost. There are no posts about the new Macbook Pros in this sub-forum, only ones about the live event, which is different.

Im confused between the RX 480 4gb and the RX 470 8gb. Both are the same price in my country(MSI Gaming X versions).

I've been lurking a lot and it seems that the most knowledgeable users keep saying that Pascal is quite a mess on laptop and heats like an oven, so if you want to really take advantage of it you must buy more expensive and better cooled laptops than the old 9xxM series. I need a new laptop FOR GAMING USE and I've been patiently waiting for the GTX 1050 or the Polaris equivalent (my budget is around 1000€ incl. VAT, so ~800$, take the dell 7559 as reference), but at this point I'm asking you: Is it really worth it? Are there any rumors indicating that 1050 will also be so hot that they'll be more expensive than 960m ones? Anything from AMD? What do you think? Thank you

Hi (I'm sorry if a thread like this exists). I'm looking at purchasing a new GPU for my computer to upgrade my 960 (not soon-ish, within the next 6 months-year). I saw the RX 480 as a really good budget GPU, but comparing it to something like a 1060/1070/1080, I'm not sure, or even against a 980Ti. If you could tell me which is better, or by how much, that would be amazing. Thanks, Alpha.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/samsung-preps-samsung-960-evo-m2-with-polaris-architecture.html 48-Layer TLC NAND Samsung is to release the new model in capacities of 128 GB, 256 GB, 512 GB, and 1 TB. Performance wise you'll get a smile on your face, it is tagged with sequential transfer rates of up to 3000 MB/s reads, with up to 1150 MB/s writes; 360,000 IOPS 4K random-read, and up to 280,000 IOPS 4K random-write. The 960 EVO will become available likely next month in M.2 (NGFF-2280) and PCIe add-on card form-factors. These units obviously will require PCI-Express 3.0 with x4 lanes as the SSDs are using the the NVMe protocol. Hurray for cheaper high-capacity M.2 drives! And that performance is still nothing to sneeze at.

Now I like AMD, GPU and CPU wise. I think they're very good at price for performance, I also think that Nvidia and Intel are better at doing things...well better. I've always felt that one of the worse things of AMD's products and probably from an overall marketing standpoint is their naming. It sounds stupid but as an average consumer you're going to be more attracted to purchasing a CPU based of Intel's "Skylake" processors than AMD's steamroller. (Although tbf the average consumer wont care so much about architectures and things so for simplicity's sake we'll do it this way) i7, i5, i3, pentium.etc also sounds a lot more simple and "technological" than the A series, Athlon and FX, and their graphics cards...wtf is Radeon, Nvidia's GeForce sounds amazing compared to Radeon. Anywho AMD's marketing seems to be getting better, I mean who wouldn't love the name Polaris vs Pascal, or Zen vs i series. Do you believe AMD is taking a stand and bumping up their marketing because they have more faith in their products, just bought a new a commercial branding team, or just want to sound cooler to sling the next load of disasters they fling at us after FX and RX480. Just a fun topic about the commercial side of things over specs and stuff. I'm definitely not super qualified to analyse this, just thought it would be fun to chat about

Hey all, longtime lurker and need some help selecting an upgrade to my aging GTX 660. I have always wanted a GEFORCE side stickered card. I have been looking at the 1070 FE and 1060 FE but I also like the look of the RX480 Strix. I just cant decide which card to get as I plan on getting either a Vega or 1080TI (or maybe 1180 TI) when it comes out. Would you say I wait and still use my 660 for now, pick up maybe a 780/980 on the used marked for like 180/250 or get a bridge card? Thanks for your help, I keep stumping myself.

In order to edit and render videos in 30FPS - 4K video, is it possible to build a rig at 570 $ excluding windows. That will get the Job done. Here is something I came up with just picking out items. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/d4XsXH The list goes very high up to $1457.84 Can you build a PC that can handle 4k Video edits at that price? And if not, what kind of PC build is reasonable for editing and rendering videos in 4 K. Thanks

So I'm looking to buy a new GPU in the near future and I really hoped for something from the Team Red side of things (Vulcan ho!) that would at least match a 1070 or even better. One can dream right? But as I was googling for an 'RX 490' all I could find were rumours and/or articles that stated that the RX480 was the best we were going to get for now (mostly just skipped through the search results to be fair), and that the 480 would be the top of the line as far as AMD will go with Polaris. So now my question is - Really? Is this all we get in terms of Polaris GPUs? Will we have to wait for the Vega architecture for something to compete with the likes of 1070s and 1080s (or by then 1170s, 1180s). Now I do know that there still are the Fury cards that hold up rather well-ish compared to Pascal, but I've been a bit weary of those since I heard a lot of people complain about coil whine across all three models. What do you guys think or even better, know? Is this all we're getting on the desktop side from Polaris?

So I'm building my first pc and I'm wondering if I should get 2 RX 480s in crossfire or just get a single gtx 1080, I am also planning on buying a sycned monitor( g-sync or free-sync depending on the GPU) so which one should I get

So AMD's new graphics cards are here, and they are pretty sick... But what's even more sick than hearing about a new graphics card? Owning one for yourself! Aw yeah man, we are giving away one Polaris 10 video card and one Polaris 11 video card thanks to our good friends over at AMD. So, how do you enter to win one of these fine graphics cards? 1. Post a comment below telling us what graphics card you're using in your rig and why you want an upgrade to AMD's Polaris lineup. The two winners will be selected at random, so no, the content of your comment doesn't REALLY matter, but this is more fun than seeing 800 posts of "I want it" or "gibe nao pls." One comment (entry) per user. 2. Check back here in about a week when the names of our two winners will be added to the OP (giveaway execution is an art not a science people, so I apologize in advance if winners aren't announced in exactly one week). 3. Check your inbox here on the forum to make sure you didn't miss it. Our winners' usernames will be added to the OP here, so if you have any question about the legitimacy of a congratulatory message regarding this giveaway, please be sure to check back here and see if your name has been added. And, while this isn't a requirement, feel free to give our friends over at @AMDRadeon on Twitter a follow. Winners will be PMed from this account on the forum. Please do not consider winner messages from any other user in regards to this giveaway. This giveaway is worldwide with no age restriction. Best of luck to all!! EDIT: Winners Polaris 10 winner: Alright, SOMEONE needs to take this GPU! Let's see if @UltraNeonGaming wants it you have 72 hours to respond @Herb12 UPDATE: New winner for Polaris 10 is Polaris 11 winner: @OnlyNeedJuan Congrats to our winners! They have 72 hours to respond. If we don't hear back in that time, a new winner (or new winners) will be selected.

Buy the RX 480 Amazon: http://geni.us/2BeBSo AMD has done a LOT with Polaris' to make display tech even better. Let's check out a few of their new features!

Okay, so this is mostly just me putting my thoughts down about the RX 480 launch, and how AMD actually did a decent job of marketing the product this time compared to the competition they were facing. I'm not wearing a red or green hat, so if you are an Nvidia or AMD fanboy, prepare to possibly be offended. People can agree or disagree. I'm not too worried, these are just my thoughts and not some indepth analysis. So even though I didn't care for it at all, the GTX 970 is the most popular discrete graphic card on steam right now (and has been forever it seems). That's amazing considering custom 970's were breaking past the $340 mark at launch, so they weren't cheap, although reference MSRP was $299. Before the 970 was the big seller, the 660 was the most popular card. The 660 was a $229 MSRP card at launch that matched a $350 HD7870. It's a no brainer that the $229 card beat the $350 card in sales. After all, both cards performed the same, despite the 2GB 660 having 1.5GB of fast memory and 0.5GB of slow memory. So how in the world did Nvidia manage to get so many people to buy 970's at the higher price point? It was pretty simple. They beat their 1000 dollar Kepler card from the previous generation for 1/3 the price. Suddenly 300-350 dollars seemed like a steal, and at less power draw too. Oddly enough, even after the 3.5GB fiasco, people still kept buying the 970. What are the odds two cards with 0.5GB of gimped memory are best sellers? Changing my focus to AMD - they marketed the RX 480 as being built like a 500 dollar card, with premium components, and having the performance in VR of a 500 dollar card. What this translated to in peoples minds was: "you are getting a 500 dollar card for 200 dollars." It was brilliant. Even on the LTT forums you had at least one thread with the title that said something like "RX 480 performs like a 500 dollar graphic card." For the first time in ages, AMD actually nailed the marketing and had people really hyped. Slides reading "2.8x Performance/Watt" had people believing. Even though 200 dollars is a lot of money for many people, AMD said "No, its cheap!" We're practically giving these away." But what were AMD up against? Nvidia were playing the same game again with the 1070, offering a card that beats the previous Generations $1000 card for less than half the price. No one can deny it was and still is a tempting offer. It's why I went for it. So AMD took a shot at the 1080 instead, drumming up the capabilities of DX12 multi-adapter, the amazing efficiency of Polaris, and AMD's renewed focus on software and crossfire support. At Computex 2016, AMD pitted two 480's against a single 1080 in a DX12 title, and beat the 1080. Of course, Ashes is an AMD title that is heavily tuned for GCN architecture, but the message still got out. Not only are you getting a "500 dollar card" for 200 dollars, but for 400 dollars you are getting the performance of a 700 dollar card. But looking at the RX 480 without the marketing filters, you can see why AMD had to come out swinging so strongly. The 480's power draw is close to a GTX 1080 and GTX 970. The benchmarks for the 480 are everywhere, and the custom 480's are arriving. What we do know is that the 480 is actually in the ballpark of the 390's performance. At 1080p the 480 is a few % ahead, while at 1440p the 390 edges out the 480. So who cares about the 390? The RX 480 is a 500 dollar card for 200-240 dollars right? Well... not exactly. the 390 at launch had an MSRP of $329, But custom 390's can currently be bought (brand new) for as low as $260 on newegg.com. So what does the 480 offer? well, better power draw than the 390 (but not 2.8x perf/watt). HDMI 2.0 as well. VR performance doesn't improve though. Regardless, there are large groups of people waiting for the custom 480's to launch, eager to get their hands on this 500 dollar card for 240 dollars (or probably more like 250-275 for custom 480's). Why? because AMD have actually done their marketing right this time, and they actually have some proof that DX12 and vulkan are not vaporware. Nvidia on the other hand seem to be sabotaging their own 1060 marketing: no SLI fingers, Founders Edition pricing, not squashing rumors about supply, declaring 980 performance when the math says 480 performance. I'm not saying Nvidia are giving this one to AMD, because you can bet the 1060 will still sell like hotcakes. SLI at that performance tier is not a common practice. But AMD really nailed it this time, despite the 480 not being a 500 dollar performer by any stretch of the imagination, not even close. AMD have cleverly disguised the 480 as being something much better than it actually is, and pulled in a lot of buyers - even many people who were currently using older nvidia cards. The mindshare is strong for the 480, no doubt about it... at least for now.

Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10465/amd-releases-statement-on-radeon-rx-480-power-consumption This is the statement sent to Anandtech: It seems that AMD is aware of the problem and is already working on a driver update to fix it. The problem, howrver, only seems to show itself when a 480 is being used on lower end mobos, but regardless it is still an issue that could both scare away consumers and potentially result in litigation against AMD. Whether or not this driver update will really fix it we don't know; we will be getting an update from AMD on the status of the driver on Tuesday and I will update this thread once that update is released by AMD. I will also update the thread once the driver is released. UPDATE: AMD has released their statement on the matter, and it basically is stating that we will get the driver on Thursday. Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10469/amds-tuesday-radeon-rx-480-update-new-driver-by-late-thursday AMD's official statement: We cannot be sure, but it sounds like AMDs solution is to move power draw off from the pcie slot and onto the 6 pin power connector. There wording isn't that clear, though, so that is only a guess. It could also possibly mean that AMD is only reducing pcie power and not increasing power draw from the 6 pin. We will have to wait until Thursday to see just what AMD meant. The fix I just detailed, however, is only one part of the driver update. That fix will be on my default-however, AMD will now also be offering a toggle (not on by default) that will reduce total power consumption of the card; presumably this would be used to keep the power draw below the 150 watt tdp. Since this mode would decrease total power consumption, this leads me to believe that the default mode would keep power draw the same and only shift power draw from the pcie slot of the 6 pin. However, as I said earlier this is not confirmed. I have a feeling the driver update will not impact performance and rather will just shift the load over to the 6 pin (which is capable of handling the extra current). Hopefully this driver update actually works. While some out there don't believe that the extra power draw is an issue, I believe it is, especially when it does in fact cause problems. There is evidence of this across the web-granted the issue mostly only occurs in budget mobos but this is a budget card after all, so it should work with budget mobos. I will be updating this thread (again) once the driver is released. UPDATE 2: Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-power-fix,4668.html So AMD has at last released the driver fix they promised. AMDs fix is pretty simple-move the power draw from the pcie slot to the 6 pin. The "compatibility mode" that AMD is also adding with this driver is not enabled by default. What it does is it lowers the total power consumption of the card, albeit at a small loss of performance, in order to keep the card's power draw below the 150 watt tdp. So so does the driver actually work? Well it sure does! As you can see in the graph above, the main board power draw amounts to exactly 75 watts, the max for the PCI-SIG spec. 6 pin power is increased, but if you are using a 500 watt+ psu like AMD recommends there is no reason that this should cause concern. Now that AMD has gotten rid of this issue with the 480, it now is a card that can be recommended to anyond looking for a decent 200 dollar GPU. Problem fixed!

Source: http://radeon.com/future-proof-pc-gaming-for-everyone/ So I was just randomly browsing the Radeon.com site created by AMD, and clicked on the part about Polaris. When I scrolled down to the bottom, I saw this: This means the rx 470 has a tdp of 110 watts. I also saw on toms hardware's review of the 480 that the 470 has 32 CUs which translates to 2048 SPs. Reducing to that amount of SPs and 7 gbps ram wouldn't cause the tdp to go down by that much, so this means the 470 probably has lower clock speeds than the 480. As well, there are some benchmarks here we can work with. If we look at firestrike, we see the 470 getting a score of 9090. I am assuming this is the graphics score, which would put the performance of the 470 in between that of the 380 and 380x. Not too bad, considering the tdp. I can't find many ashes benchmarks for mid range, but it seems that here the 470 performs around a 380x. Again, I couldn't find much for Hitman either but it seems the 470 performs around the 380x in this as well. Double again, I can't find much for overwatch but it seems to be around a 380x again. So it looks like the 470 will be quite a decent card. Judging by the tdp I'm guessing it will use the same pcb layout as the 480. I also do believe that when the 470 is overclocked, it can reach 90-95% of a 480s performance. The 480 may be a good deal, but I think the 470 will be a great one.

Hi so since i cant decide on which... i found a sapphire nitro r9 390 on craigslist for $200 but i also see AMD has released their new RX 480 for $240 and i cant decide which is better. I dont care about power consumption or anything but if i were to overclock the r9 390 would i get the same performance as the RX 480. Thank you.

More details have emerged about the new AMD WattMan overclocking tool. Which is due to offer more features. Also in a exciting turn of events the leaked slides promise day one drivers! The leaked slides: Other than the awful name this seems like a positive change of pace from AMD. Source: http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_radeon_wattman_oc_app_details_leaked/1

So, AMD would be releasing three of their Polaris cards the 480, 470 and 460. I would be upgrading my GTX 750ti soon as i have a new 1440p monitor. Which card do you guys think is best for the money for 1440p at 60fps? the RX 470 (8GB) or the RX 480 (4GB). Would the VRAM make any difference? Also, I don't really care about VR but i do want maxed settings on the current triple-A games at least 60fps. I don't have much money to spend so I can't really go for the GTX 1070. My current specs are: Intel i7 6700K (4.0 Ghz) Asus Z170 Pro 16GB RAM (3000Mhz) PNY 240GB SSD + Samsung 1TB HDD EVGA GTX 750TI SC Thanks!

Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10413/amd-teases-future-radeon-rx-470-radeon-rx-460-cards At E3, AMD has announced the rx 470 and 460. Unfortunately, no details were provided except that the 460 was below 75 watts (I don't remember for sure but I think they said below 75 watts, Lisa might have said 75 watts). The 470 seems to be a mainstream gaming card while the 460 will be targeted at esports. My guess is the 470 will offer around 380x performance while the 460 will be somewhere around the r7 370 and GTX 950. My guess is that the card that AMD showed off at CES was the 460. Nothing else about Polaris was mentioned; we weren't given any benchmarks, though it is possible we could see some by the end of e3. I currently cant can't find any article that reported on this, but AMD also mentioned Zen. We didn't get any benchmarks for Zen, either, though it was said that Zen is currently capable of running DOOM. Well that's all for now folks! Hopefully we'll be seeing some more stuff before the end of e3 as this really isn't that much info! EDIT: Didnt see this, but found this on Anandtech's article: This seems to be saying that AMD may make a press release soon with more info on Polaris..... Interesting.....

Forbes: How AMD's 'The Uprising' Ad Campaign Will Incite A Radeon Rebellion Article excerpt: I think that AMD has the right approach, and it brings to my recollection some things I've had to say about AMD recently. One of those things is this: And another of those things has been noting that AMD pioneers a lot of good technology that becomes mainstream, in this thread, for example: GDDR HBM APUs GPU tessellation Mantle (-> Vulkan / DX12) multi-core x86 CPUs on-die memory controllers DisplayPort 64-bit x86 CPUs async-computation in GPUs .. and AMD is also committed to an open standard, which has allowed their tech to benefit the world, including their rival companies, like Intel, and Nvidia.

I don't have a website source for this.... However, I did get an email from AMD regarding the stuff they talked about at Computex. And this was one part of that email: Or if you want the original without formatting removed: The most interesting part that I saw was this: Yup, that says that the rx 480 will deliver VR capability common in 500 dollar GPUs. what are the current 500 dollar GPUs? The gtx 980 and the r9 nano. Of course, this could possibly be an exaggeration, since AMD could have either used Ashes of the Singularity for their results (and in ashes the 980 performs a little lower than the r9 390) or perhaps Polaris has some extra VR features that make it a lot more powerful in VR (like the 1080). However, I doubt that they did it with Ashes, since then Polaris would be lower than the 390 in performance and we are all pretty sure the 480 is better than the 390. This means that either the 480 is about as powerful as the nano or it is very good at VR, both of which are good for us. I personally doubt it will reach all the way up to the nano, but if it is between the 390x and the nano (so around the 980) that would be great! I'm hoping the 480 does turn out to be around the 390x or even a little more powerful than that. That could perhaps even give the 1070 a little competition, as dual 480s would be just a little more than the 1070 and if a 480 is around a 390x it would very likely perform considerably better.

Hi guys. With Computex and Pascal, revealing many things, has anyone seen anything about the next gen gaming laptops with pascal or polaris? I think there was an Asus one with a 1080gtx. I also read no more "m" Nvidia cards, whoohoo!

I'm gonna make a build some time towards the end of this year and I initially thought I would go for an Intel + NVIDIA setup but my budget won't allow that. This build will be used for 4k 60fps gaming and game development. I'll take a zen, I guess. Should I wait for Vega or go with a dual crossfire polaris? Or should I buy one Vega (if it is released this year) and then install a navi later for a crossfire?

Which GPU serious do you think will prevail? How do you think that Polaris will stack up against Pascal? Which do you think will prevail, and why?