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  1. Niic07

    Air vs Liquid

    Here’s the scoop: I have an outdated prebuilt with an A10 - 7800 and no video card and I’m looking to build a new one from scratch around a Ryzen 5 - 2600x and was wondering if it is better to water cool it or air cool it and if so which coolers are the best
  2. Hello all I’m in the process of creating a new build... I’ll give a quick spec overview CPU: i9900k Mobo: Asus ROG Maixiums XI Formula RAM: 32 GB DDR4 Trident Z at 3300 GPU: EVGA 1080ti SC Hybrid got off eBay for 200 bucks because the pump and fans needed rewiring Cooling:Custom EKWB loop any The biggest question I have is about cooling I know my MOBO has the Option to cool the VRM as well as the CPU I will be putting a pretty heavy OC on this and was wondering what everyone thought the best way to do it is. I’ve fiddled with the idea of using T Fixtures before both IN ports on the CPU and VRM then bringing the two OUT ports to another T and running it back to my Radiator via a single acrylic tube . I’ve also considered down sizing my 360MM radiator down to 240MM and then using a single 120MM radiator for the VRM. Do you guys see any potential flow issues with using T fixtures or using two separate radiators. This will all be ran by a single pump. Alternatively I could run from the pump the IN port on the CPU to the Out port on the CPU then to the VRM. Then on through to a single 360MM radiator. But I’m concerned with a heavy OC on a 9 core processor that the heat dissapation will not be as beneficial as I would want for stability and fairly reasonable temps. Any advice or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
  3. Hi Guys, You know what ? I like to think, like a lot. Feel free not to read this thread if you don't like very hypothetical ideas. As some of you might have seen, I'm currently building my very first custom watercooling loop and I REALLY LOVE understanding what I do and using my engineering skills to try & do it the way I think is the best. This topic is definitely something that I'd be doing with my own system because it would require a precision that I wouldn't be able to achieve and for a minor (if existing) cooling performance improvement. So ! As far as I've understood, the point of cooling a broadband computer is keeping its internal components temperature as close as possible to the ambiant temperature. Air cooling transfers heat to a rad from which heat will be extracted by one or more fans. Liquid cooling has exactely the same purpose, except that waterflow will help transferring the heat more rapidly and provide a more efficient cooling. So the whole point is taking warm water to some metal parts from which heat will be extracted by blowing. I've seen lots of things being done to increase this performance. Some of them may be only marketing and low efficient in real conditions but let's take an example : I owned a small form factor reservoir, the phanteks R160 which has an integrated heatsink on its back. The reservoir mounts directly to a fan so that it dissipates more heat. Which finally bringed me to this idea : how else could we increase even a little heat dissipation from a watercooling loop at a low price ? And there I came with this idea. In the industry, tubing is very often used as a heat dissipation component. Some of them have a heat sink circulary mounted all around them. This, in nickel + copper version would IMO be a VERY great idea but increase the cost and space usage way too much in a situation where cost and space management are very important to us. They would be a nightmare to bend cut and fit. I think it would still be interesting to see how it performs - Video idea ? ( : - There's an example image of this tubes : Which finally led me to this idea : Some mid range heat transfer tubes are just regular tubes that were twisted. They dont take more space, they aren't much more pricey to produce, don't reduce water flow efficiency but they maximize the contact surface with air so more heat is being dissipated with a same tubing length. Here's an example : I think this would be easy to manufacture both with PETG or Copper like Linus did on one of his video and could increase - even if very low increase - the heat dissipation and therefore the cooling performance. And it's so easy to make and visually speaking that I'm surprised that GAMIIIIIING stuff manufacturers didn't do it yet as the century idea. With catching titles like this : « up to twice the heat dissipation performance compared to classic tubing ! » with nice charts with no legend. Thanks for reading ! I'd be glad to have your thoughts about this. This is not at all trolling, just sharing some ideas with low impact but lots of thinking to be made. Vincent
  4. Anyone have an issue with NZXT Kraken X52 dead pump ? rad fan is working pump logo rgb light is working too but the pump fan is 0 rpm please help me .
  5. I am a College Student. I am attending Independence University Online and my PC has a tendancy to overheat when Running programs that Im learning ahead of the Curve before we get to them in the course. I am going for my associates In Graphics Arts. My PC has some decent specs but its my temps that I run into a problem with when multitasking. Specs are AMD A10-6700 3.7ghz Quad Core APU, MSI Radeon RX-470 ARMOR OC 8gb GPU, 16gb Corsair Vengance DDR3 1600mhz RAM, ASUS F2A55-M motherboard, and 4 physical hard drives equaling over 2tb of Hard Drive Space. Im asking if anyone knows where I can find either really cheap or free Liquid Cooling Parts. I honestly dont care if they are used. I currently have a AIO by UpHere technologys. Its a 120mm liquid setup and it just isnt cutting it anymore. Please Help me.
  6. Hi everyone, I don't know about you guys, but I am pretty annoyed by CM's appalling documentation, confusing software, stingy wiring lengths, and cheap-feeling controller on this product. Also, does anyone know why in god's name there are 2 similar pieces of control software available – CM MasterPlus & CM LightingControl? Anyway, down to the question – I have everything connected. The 3 argb-enabled parts of my ML240r into connectors A1, 2 & 3 on the right aRGB side of the controller (2x radiator fan and 1x pump) My existing cablemod rgb strip connected to the non-addressable (left) side at R1 The power for the radiator fans to the fan port SATA power at the top and micro-USB control at the bottom RGB header from my ASUS PRIME x370-pro to the RGB motherboard port However, selecting "MotherBoard" for the ARGB components causes the lights to turn off entirely. Is it straight impossible to have MB sync on this product without an ARGB MoBo? Going to watch Discovery – I'm sick of this shit!! Cheers as always, Mark
  7. I'm planning on getting the RTX 2080 TI and a waterblock from Phanteks for my next build (still waiting on Zen 2). However, I didn't want to pay the absurd price most of these cards are selling for. The EVGA Black is finally selling for the MSRP of $999, and it looks like that's because it has really shitty thermals. Obviously, that won't be a problem for me since I will be watercooling it, but I was wondering if this low end of the 2080 TI has disadvantages other than thermals (I've heard things about power limit and such). My question is: if I want to install a waterblock on an RTX 2080/2080 TI, am I going to get a satisfactory overclock with any model or are there things I should look out for? Or do you think that maybe this generation of GPUs isn't worth liquid cooling at all?
  8. Hey Guys, Question for you all. I just bought a new system with the following specs: Case: Thermaltake View 71 TG Snow Motherboard: Asus Prime Z390-A GPU: Zotac AMP Edition 2080 ti with EK Vector Waterblock (Nickel) CPU: i9 9900k with EK-Velocity RGB Waterblock PSU: Corsair RM850x RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro White RGB Radiator: Thermaltake CL420 w/ 3x Corsair Maglev 140mm Fans Pump/Res: Thermaltake Pacific PR22-D5 Pump/Res Combo Liquid: Thermaltake C1000 White w/ Thermaltake 16mm OD PETG So I am planning on OC'ing the i9 to around 5Ghz of course. I will also OC the GPU as well. However I wasnt sure if buying a second 240 Rad would be overkill? I would have thought so considering I already have a 420 in there. This is my first time watercooling so thought I would ask here for some advice. If you think I should buy the 240 what would be the best setup for the loop? Cheers in advance guys!
  9. Hi everyone, I want to buy liquid cooler, an AIO one, but there are so many options and as I'm new to this I've been intimidated with that. Then there's the factor that this is conditioned by the setup, I'll list it below, so I would appreciate if anyone can help me choosing one. Budget: 100USD Setup: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600x MoBo: Asus B450-F Strix RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 2x16Gb 3000Mhz Storage: Samsung 970 EVO 256Gb SSD, Seagate Barracuda 2TB GPU: PNY GeForce 1070 xlr8 oc PSU: Corsair CX550M (550W) Case: Corsair Spec Alpha I have installed only the 3 stock fans (2 Pull front, 1 Push back) that were included in the case and the stock one for the CPU, I'm getting temps between 35°c and 65°C, I've read that the stock fans for Ryzen are good enough but I'm not convinced. The case is a factor because it doesn't seem to have much room for radiators. As I said I've just began in this, so I need help. Thank you in advance, people.
  10. Hello, I cant tell the difference between the Cooler Master ML240RS and The ML240R. I think the fans are different but their pages look the exact same. ML240RS - http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-liquid-cooler/masterliquid-ml240rs-rgb/ ML240R - http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-liquid-cooler/masterliquid-ml240r-rgb/
  11. Hello everyone, I'm planning a new custom loop liquid cooled build and I'm currently at the stage of deciding which rtx 2080 card to buy. I live in a place where the local computer part vendors have insanely inflated prices. However, newegg offers very low cost shipping to my country along with extremely competitive prices. I am completing most of my order on newegg because that's the best option for me now and I will be limited to newegg's catalogue. I'm planning a compact mini ITX build and I have a little more money to spend on aesthetics, performance and acoustics; that's why I'm going with a liquid cooled build in an ITX form factor as I believe it would look really cool. I'm also trying to squeeze my money to go as far as possible in terms of what I'm getting. Anyway, I currently have in my cart the ZOTAC RTX 2080 Blower style card as it's the cheapest one ($699), I figured I'd go for this card since I'm going to be replacing the cooler anyway. Now my question is, would the ZOTAC RTX 2080 Blower card (given that it is being liquid cooled) perform any worse than other "custom" cards that will also be liquid cooled? So essentially I'm trying to figure out which card is best to buy to get the most bang for my buck with a liquid cooling solution.
  12. Alright so here’s the case I just built my first pc Ryzen 2700xRtx 2070 system In nzxt h500 caseI’m using the stock cooler right now, but I’m looking to OC my cpu soon, so I am looking to put in a liquid cooler My case can have one fan in back 120One top 140 and up to 240 in the front Back and top are exhaust, so can I just put a 240mm liquid cooler in the front and not have an intake, or should I get a 140 mm liquid cooler for top and put one intake in the front Or should change the back fan to an intakeWhat should I do?
  13. So I installed a custom loop from alphacool a while ago, and I want to make sure that I plugged everything in where It was supposed to go. First is the pump, I plugged that into system fan and then pcie in my psu The CPU block has a bit of light on it and I plugged it into CPU fan. The fans are connected to a thermal take fan hub and they work great (I took them from my old aio) I am mostly nervous about the pump because I have no idea if it's plugged where it needs to be. If anybody can help me with this that would be soooo amazing.
  14. Which is a better option for this cube case? Both retail for the same price. Silverstone TD03 Slim white edition - (120mm radiator with 120mm static pressure fan) Be quiet shadow rock lp 130tdp - (low profile air cooler with 120mm fan) System : Silverstone SG13 Pink with mesh edition Ryzen R7 2700 AsRock B450i gaming plus ac Crucial ballistix elite 3200mhrz cl15 16gb Samsung 970 Evo 500gb m.2 nvme - Boot drive Western digital blue 1tb ssd Silverstone SX700 - LPT - SFX 80+ platinum She intend use the system for gaming
  15. I have a couple questions. One being which way I should have my fans facing, and another being if I should move my radiator to have it above the pump, or if it doesn't matter. Any response would be highly appreciated. Btw cable managment is a work in progress... I don't plan on leaving it like this.
  16. Hello, I'm looking for a water block which is compatible for the Zotac 1080 TI Amp! Edition (Not the extreme) I've done a lot of poking around online but can't seem to find an appropriate water block which will fit my card. Any help is appreciated - I've got all my liquid cooling gear ready and the waterblock for the card is the last step for me. Thanks!
  17. So, I have 2 top AIO exhaust fans, pulling air from the case up through the radiator and out of the top of the case. 1 back intake fan, and 2 front intake fans. Is this the best fan placement/AIO placement and intake/exhaust arrangement? BTW the GPU has 3 fans.
  18. I was wondering something about custom liquid cooling. Why is the practice to bend the tubes, rather than using an angled fitting? Obviously, I could see why it would be cheaper to bend the tube rather than buying more fittings, but in terms of performance, does it matter? Does it have to do with having the least amount of varying materials in the setup?
  19. Hello guys i have a Segotep The Wind case and i'm looking to upgrade my stock ryzen cooling with water cooling solution. I thinking about getting a Deep Cool Maelstrom 240rgb. The thing is that i have no idea if i can fit it in. Any of you guys have this case with water cooling?
  20. Hello, everyone! Im just wondering how should I connect my AIO cooler to my motherboard? I will use an ID-COOLING Frostflow+ 280 AIO, paired with an ASUS TUF B450M-PRO GAMING mobo. Said mobo doesnt have many fan headers, and no AIO_pump header. Should I connect the pump, and the fans to the CPU_Fan header with an Y Splitter? Or should I connect the AIO fans to an Sys_Fan header? Thanks in advance!
  21. Hello everyone, I just assembled my new pc with a i9 9900k and the said cooler but the cooler doesn't light up nor it seems to work (the mobo is Asus Maximus X Hero). Idle temps on the 9900k overclocked to 5.1ghz are 35-40c and increasing the longer I use it. The AIO fans are spinning and everything but the temps are still pretty high, especially under max load when they're 100c on most cores (according to HWMonitor at least). I've spent ~3 hours troubleshooting this but I just can't seem to get it to work. The cpu block has two cables that are plugged as shown on this pic. I'm pretty sure the AIO isn't defective or anything as I used it on another pc a few weeks ago and it worked completely fine. Any help would be appreciated as I really have no idea what to do any more. It might actually be that the AIO is complete trash as I didn't do a lot of research before hand (that I should've) but from what I read today it doesn't seem to be. I hope we can figure this out :D
  22. Hello everyone, currently i thought about an upgrade from my amd fx 6300 at 4,3ghz to a new ryzen 2700x. My current water cooling is a lepa EXllusion 240(AM3+) with some silent fans from be quiet. On the website they dont say that it fits on am4, so can I just use any upgrade kit from am3 to am4 or do i need to get a brand new water cooling system? Here the link to the website (scroll down a bit). Thank you for your help.
  23. hello i have an x62 kraken and i wanted to change it to a push pull configoration and i have two ll140 fans by corsair i was wondering if it would harm the cooling or the fans if on one side there would be the stock kraken fans and on the other the ll140 fans i also have the same situation with my watercooled GPU which i would like to turn into push pull but to add two different fans
  24. 1. I was wondering what the optimal way is to undervolt my RTX 2070. I have a Zotac RTX 2070 blower edition so I need to keep my GPU cooler without sacrificing performance. 2. Is there any AIO GPU cooling solution out there for RTX 2070 reference designs?
  25. Hello all! Sorry for being such a noob, but I can't seem to find a straight answer from Google on this one. I'm building a new rig (found here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PhvpJ8) and I'm thinking about putting in an AIO liquid cooler on the cpu for those good looks. But I've seen whispers here and there that AIOs can present the problem of overheating the VRM and RAM. However, some seem to say not to worry about it too much. There's even the ASUS Ryujin that has a fan in the waterblock to cool those parts, but it's kinda expensive (I got many of my parts for good deals on black Friday prices and the wife has me on a budget), and rumored to be a little loud. So, I thought I would get your opinions on the matter. Do I need to do some additional cooling beyond the AIO and a case fan or two to keep the VRM and RAM nice and cool? Are AIOs a waste of time with an air cooler being a better option? Note: I'm a noob, and although a custom loop would be neat, I really wouldn't know what I was doing and would rather not go that route. No immediate plans to overclock, but I like to tinker and may go that route in the future. Thanks in advance, and please don't hate on my RGB. ;D
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