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Hey guys just wondering if this seems safe, i have a Corsair air 240 case with a h100iv2 240mm rad and an i7 7700k oc'd to 5ghz but my max synthetic load temps in realbench are 89 at max and anywhere from 70-85 avg, is this safe and is there anything i can do to lower temps with keeping 5ghz, i cant go any lower on voltage, and should i adjust my CPU Cache Frequency? Thanks

cAN I HAVE A HAD PLS, I Cant find any info that i can understand, What is LLC, What Does it do and should i use it because i currently have it at default and am struggling to keep 5ghz stable @1.345V On an i7 7700k, any advice for that would be appreciated as well, thanks

Here is my wishlist for apple's 2017 laptop lineup. Feel free to add your own ideas. Kill MacBook Air. MacBook: Kaby Lake Actually Core i CPUs instead of Core m Price Drop to ~$800 16GB RAM Option Matte Black to replace space grey 720p or 1080p webcam. MacBook Pro: Kaby Lake or Coffee Lake Quad Core CPU in 13" Model Actual GPU in 13" Model Real 1060 or AMD Equivalent in 15" Model Price Cut to ~$1200 32GB Ram option Base i7 for all 1080p webcam Matte Black Option Will post mac desktop wishlist soon.

The Video Card is a placeholder for the MSI 1080 ti Gaming X when it becomes available again. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING M7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($248.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-4133 Memory ($263.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card ($714.98 @ Newegg) Case: Phanteks Enthoo Series Primo Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case ($249.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($167.98 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($142.98 @ Newegg) Case Fan: Cougar Vortex PWM 70.5 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00) Case Fan: Cougar Vortex PWM 70.5 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00) Case Fan: Cougar Vortex PWM 70.5 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00) Case Fan: Cougar Vortex PWM 70.5 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00) Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" 1920x1080 Monitor (Purchased For $0.00) Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($259.99 @ Best Buy) Keyboard: Logitech G710 Plus Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $0.00) Mouse: Logitech G600 MMO Gaming Mouse Wired Laser Mouse (Purchased For $0.00) Headphones: Razer Kraken Pro Headset Speakers: Logitech Z625 200W 2.1ch Speakers ($147.28 @ Amazon) Total: $2956.13 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-13 07:06 EDT-0400

So I'm looking to upgrade my first pc build after about 4 months of owning it,right now I have so many makeshift things and so many low quality components I figured it was time to plam for an upgrade. I'm not going to lay down a budget but this is just to help make a list for myself and have my PC appraised as to what parts may beneficial for it in the near future. And please no negative criticism,other forums tend to hate on my poor choice of components (i.e my i3 that could have been swapped for a Pentium g4560 which was released shortly after I finished my build).Now with that out of the way... All my components are listed in the PC part picker at the bottom of the topic Now I'm really wanting to clean up my case,one problem I have is the psu's cables.its not modular so these cables take up all the case and it looks terrible especially from the window in case. I'm wanting a modular psu, but I don't really know any reputable companies besides seasonic and EVGA and even then I don't know which ones are better quality and such. So what modular power supply is best for it's dollar? (I really don't need anything above 600 watts I don't plan on getting a power hungry gpu or overclocking an fx anytime soon) For Storage,I am honestly starting to hate hard drives and seeing the difference between a 7200rpm drive and a (even a budget drive) ssd is asstonishing to me and I really want to upgrade and make an SSD a boot drive. There are alot of companies with SSD's with 120gb ranging from 40-100$. I have thought abkut buying an adata drive since they get decent reviews and are fairly cheap but I have found many received and articles saying g how un dependable they are,so what low cost 120gb ssd would be good for a system like this? For ram I plan to get crucial ddr4 ram,unless there are better options I believe that's what I will get (I'm also only running a single stick of ram so if there are any suggestions for ram I do need dual channel) Motherboards....I have no clue what to get. I do plan to overclock if I am able to get a capable cpu and a cooler for it so I do want a motherboard capable of OCing.however I am looking for a non-micro atx board,the atx board in my case is just so cramped and the terrible cane management doesn't help the looks at all here. By no means do I need a full on all bells and whistles gaming class motherboard,just something with plenty of USB ports,fan headers,PCI,USB 3 case control and looks nice from the outside and can oc. (LGA 1151 of course) Video card, I am stuck with two choices. I am considering the GTX 1070 and the RX 480.in raw performance the 480 does preform better and has a better price to performance ratio but...I am hesitant because the 1080 is alot better at 100$ more so would it be a better investment in a 480 or save for a 1080? (Or wait and see what Vega brings) Lastly the processer,this is what enticed me to create this topic most. I definitely want a cpu with 4+ cores and good overclocking ability. I was natruelly drawn to the i5 6600k..But then I realized that there's kaby lake that is reverse compatible with lga1151 socket. But then there is also ryzen 5 which.....Holy crap it looks amazing especially with the entry processer being 169 with a (pretty decent) stock cooler compared to the 219$ 6600k without a cooler and another new Mobo that would be needed to overclock. (Also the b350 boards for ryzen are only around 80$ compared to the other boards on the lga1151 starting at around 120$ for a decent oc capable board) So do you think the investment into Intel's kaby lake or sky lake processers would be more beneficial...Or a new ryzen chip with a new Mobo entirely? (I know this was long but I'm honestly just wanting am appraisal and opinion for upgrade components,I don't expect anyone to answer all my questions about components in one post but these are a list of everything I'm considering and wondering about upgrading,thank you for reading as well) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VrsMgL

So these two cpus are at a similar price and was wondering which will perform better? I was leaning towards the ryzen cpu as theres more cores and its slightly newer. I also checked on userbench and the intel cpu scored higher. Is this because the ryzen chips arent as optimized? Am I better off just getting a i5?

Hi guys, really need some help here.... I am building a new rig. Components are: i7 7700k Asus z270f Strix motherboard 16GB 3000mhz Trident Z RGB Ram Corsair RM750x PSU Current issue: I've hooked everything up. Currently sitting on mobo box, testing everything before installing into case. Jumped on switch pins on the motherboard and nothing. RGB lights on mobo working. Power light on mobo working. So I know it is getting power. But it will not boot. Then, several minutes later the ram will light up and the cpu fan will start up and it looks like it's powering up, but there is no video output. The other thing that's making me think it isn't booting properly is that there are leds on the motherboard that are meant to light up through the boot process to represent error codes etc but they do nothing. The sticker above the ram ends in 505. Is that the bios revision? After some googling there was an old unresolved forum post that said try updating the bios because 505 doesn't support the 7700k - which blew my mind if that's true. Any ideas are welcome. My tech knowledge is fairly average so I'll try to answer any questions you guys have

So apparently along with the Ryzen 9 leak, Intel also leaked the i9 7920K, a Skylake-X proccessor with 12 cores 24 threads. Moving on to i9? http://www.pcgamer.com/intel-core-i9-leak-points-to-intels-first-new-processor-line-in-years/ But what is this for? Logically, it's probably to counter AMD's Ryzen, but how? The 6950x is $1700(or whatever it is now after the apparent price drop), so I don't think adding 2 more cores and more threads is going to help that.... Any ideas?

Has intel attached the fsb speed to the bclk speed? or is it possible to overclock kaby lake at 100 series motherboards via the baseclock?

I plan on building my own PC in the upcoming months. I plan to primarily use it to game, so the higher clock speeds on the i5 7600K appeal to me. However, Cemu, the emulator, is able to play great titles such as Breath of the Wild on PC. Apparently emulation is more CPU bound than GPU bound. Ryzen 5 1600X is much better at multicore usage (which would hopefully aid me in emulating games), therefore appealing to me for emulation but falling behind the i5 7600K in clock speeds. I plan to pair the CPU witha GTX 1070. Which CPU would suit my situation the best?

so I'm gona upgrade my cpu soon and I don't know if I should buy a 6600k now or wait until kaby lake releases and maybe get a 7600k. or I could wait for kaby lake and if I don't need a 7600k then I could get maybe a 6700k for a cheaper price than it is now because of kaby lake being released. at the moment Ive got an AMD cpu so when I do upgrade I'm gona have to get a new motherboard and RAM as well

Hi there I was wondering if some of you could help me. I have recently sold my gaming pc because I have realised I wasn't gaming as often as I used to. I'm now on my old laptop. I'd like to build a new desktop tho, I'm not really sure on parts yet. I'm searching for a cheap, very reliable and stable motherboard for the current intel cpu's (LGA1151). I'm not planning on overclocking and I probably am gonna buy a i5-6500. I'm planning on building a compact pc so a M-ITX motherboard is needed. I had a Gigabyte Motherboard before and wasn't really keen on its UEFI and stability. Ports I need: -many USB Ports, as my mouse, keyboard and external HDD already use 4 of them (3 USB2.0, 1 USB3.0) -HDMI graphics output as im relying on the iGPU (at least for now) -5.1 surround sound output either on 3.5mm jacks or optical Toslink jack Ports that would be nice: -USB3.1 Type C Port Prices up to around 100 US$ I've searched for a long time but couldnt really find a really good one. I was wondering if it would be worth it waiting for kaby lake processors which are said to be released in the beginning of 2017. I could wait as my laptop does work for the moment. The pc is being used for office applications(microsoft office), internet browsing (chrome) and maybe later light gaming with a later added GPU. Thank you very much for your help

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I have two computer's I'm looking at upgrades for (one is my person rig at home with a 4790k, but I'm probably not going to upgrade for a while, not needed yet IMO) so we will focus of computer #2 Computer #2 is a Workstation PC that is using a E5 1607 (V0!!!) xeon, manufactured from the end of 2011/beginning of 2012 @3GHz, quad core no hyperthredding. This PC was assembled in 2012/2013 (not sure) and we have been using it since 2013. It's primary role is Autodesk Inventor and AutoCAD. They're not big projects though; we aernt building an entire skid model for a power station with 100,000+ parts in it.Much more simple, sub 100 parts so in my opinion a lot of the "workstation" hardware is wasted (Nvidia m2000, ECC memory). Mostly because our 3D software only has parts of it that are multi threaded enabled, which are parts we use very rarely here. I have determined that Core Clock is more important than number of cores, though I still like hyper threading. So I've convinced my boss to let me choose the next computer (Sadly I cannot build it myself as it "needs a warranty" so I'll have to *sob* buy it pre built) With that out of the way, Would it be better to get Kaby Lake computers when they release in early 2017, or wait for the new 10nm architecture in the Canonlake series (is it worth the wait)? I've heard that Kaby Lake is sort of "Skylake+", as Intel broke their tick tock schedule which I'm just learning about. Obviously either would be a improvement to the current CPU I have. I have been tracking a "Benchmark thread" (http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/how-fast-is-your-inventor-pc-really/td-p/5950908/page/24 my post is the IPI score of 5.02) on Autodesk's website for Inventor and so far the Best CPU for Autodesk Inventor is currently the 6700K (hence the moving away from workstation internals) so in theory Canonlake with it's improved clock speeds would definitely be better than Skylake in this regard. (For example, I'd love to get a Mainstream enabled Turbo Boost 3.0 CPU as this would be the perfect use case for the Single threaded optimized software, but I dfont know if that will be on Canonlake's list of features.) I've basically done the research and am now looking for opinions. Are there any features of Canonlake that I would want to wait for? My computer isnt "smoking, bout to catch fire" or anything but when comparing it to some of the computers on that thread, it's night and day.

Hey guy's. So my question is this, i have a i5 4670k in a maximus formula 5 and i am hoping to upgrade to a maximus hero z170. But since kaby lake is a 1151 socket as well as skylake i am wondering if it would be worth it to wait for kaby lake or if i should go for a skylake. I have heard that kaby lake is barely an upgrade from skylake in terms of raw power were power cunsomption is no issue. Thanks in advance.

Boards list, at the link below http://wccftech.com/intel-kaby-lake-core-i5-7600k-pictured-200-series/

So we have a few leaks from WCCF (Take this with a grain of salt if you must) showcasing a 7700K on LN2, and a 7600K on air. One of these results is pretty impressive. The other, not so much. 6.7ghz on LN2. Keep in mind, we don't know the voltage required to achieve this, but the current WR on HWbot for the 6700k is 7ghz on LN2. This is slightly disappointing in comparison, but we know too little to be absolutely certain. If we knew its voltages, and had other bins to compare against, it would clarify whether or not this is a good or bad result, either way, I am currently not impressed with this LN2 result. As for the 7600K, it's results on air, are pretty impressive. Now, we know the voltage required to achieve this overclock. It's very high. HOWEVER, keep in mind this was done on air. Thermal runaway dictates that the hotter something gets, the more power it consumes, which again leads to more heat and more power consumed. With a better cooling solution, this voltage requirement might be reduced. The fact that it was "very stable" at this clock speed on air, might lend some credit to the new fin design. To put this into perspective; one of the more prolific overclockers on this forum, @Lays has a 5ghz 6700K that runs at 1.43v on a custom loop. While the overall clock speeds have not changed from what we can achieve on Skylake (as predicted by most people), the impact of the new fin design on overclocking is still not known. Perhaps the more mature 14nm process in Kaby Lake provides a higher voltage tolerance over Skylake, or at least offers more stability of lower clock speeds at lower voltages. I am sure @patrickjp93 will know more about this, so I might as well tag him while I am at it. I still stand by my previous statements, in that Kaby Lake will have zero IPC improvements over Skylake. As we get more details about Kaby's release, I'll be prepared to eat my words if I am wrong. 7700K clock speed image: 7600K clock speed image: Source: http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-core-i5-7600k-overclock/ UPDATE: I can't tell if the memory kit they are using is trash, or if the IMC on this specific CPU is bad, but this is a very lackluster memory result. DDR4 4000 has a peak theoretical memory bandwidth of 64GB/s in dual channel. This result is only showing 83% write efficiency, and only 64% read/copy efficiency. Hopefully it's the kit itself. I would hate to see a step backwards in IMC quality.

Hey guys, any information about if the 6000 series cpu's will be forward campatible with the new mobo for Kaby Lake cpus? I know the kaby lake processors are backwards compatible, but does that mean forward compatibility fpor the older cpus too?

So guys, I was wondering if it's possible that we will see non-server/ws motherboards with 10 gigabit ethernet connectivity, when Kaby lake is launched or if there will be a couple more generations before we'll see that? I should mention that I'm not 100% up to date with the latest news about Kaby lake, so it's likely that this have been confirmed or denied, and that I have missed it. I personally think that it could be possible that this is the generation we will see 10 gigabit being implemented by some manufacturers, and that it will be more or less a "standard" thing with next generation. I want to know your thoughts on this matter, so please let me know. By the way I'm a geek, but not a big one so I might be completely wrong

i would like your opinion about it New Intel Processors Alienware 15: I7 7700hq Kaby Lake Dell XPS 13: Intel Core M 7y75 Unlike the current XPS 13 with kabylake "U" Series Chips This Xps 13 has the Kabylake "M" series of processors

Hi, can someone take a look at this and tell me why dafuq is "VID" doing at 1.4volts+?

Hi! I'm venturing into the world of overclocking, so far it's going pretty well (i think). I've been reading a lot about overclocking and seeing a lot of Youtube video's. Today i overclocked my CPU to 4.9 GHz stable on this setup: Intel i7 7700k OC'ed to 4.9 GHz @ 1.36V Asus Prime Z270-K motherboard 2x8Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200mhz clocked @ 2400mhz Geforce GTX 970 Cooler Master Masterliquid 240 on the CPU Under 100% load during Cinebench, XTU stress test and Realbench benchmark my temperatures are around 70-80 degrees celsius, peaking at 85 degrees. Under normal conditions, such as gaming, it's around 50-60 degrees. I find this to be good results, considering that i'm using a cheap AIO and my CPU is not delidded. There is a few things that i'm wondering about. First of, temperatures. Every time i read a post or see a video about temperatures, i see different recommendations for "optimal" temperatures during load. Some say below 90 degrees celsius is optimal, some say below 80 and some say below 70. This is confusing, especially when Intel apparently just recommend it to be below 100 degrees. Is this just a personal matter, as long as it stays below 100 degrees? My second question is about stress testing. I don't do long stress testing when overclocking. I do a short test to check my temperatures, and if everything looks good i starting using my pc as usual. If it's stable for my everyday usage, i'm happy. I can see the benefits of a stable system, but torturing a CPU with 100% load (Artificial load) for 8 hours just seem dumb. You wouldn't take your newly tuned car on a dyno and give it full throttle for 8 hours. Am i missing something here? And for the very last thing, delidding. What are the actual chances of failure, when using a dedicated delidding tool? I often see people warning about the dangers, but if i use the delid tool as it's meant to be used, don't scratch the die and apply the right amount of liquid metal, are there other things that can go wrong?

https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/09/intel-to-unveil-8th-generation-core-august-21/ So,if you haven't heard Intel is set to release their "brand new" cpu line based on coffee lake. So...I was curious. What are all your takes on the new cpu launch? I'm honestly wanting to hear others thoughts To me...I bought an i3 6100 around March last year. Based on Skylake,it's a great chip and all,iv had no problems with it...but I am very budget oriented with my computer setups. I do hard research on my performance per $...wattage, longevity and ect. But what I look for most (and I'm sure others like me do as well) is upgradeability. I bought this chip with the incentive to eventually buy an i7 6700k,and upgrade my setup from there. But then..Ryzen struck and Intel got turned on it's head (from how I see it) So...after that,kaby lake launched,which I expected. I was still willing to buy from the Skylake range of processors,at this time they were still decently recent and we're still sold new. No problem,and then kaby lake X and Skylake X. I felt a bit slapped in the face,two new platforms in a very short amount of time,making my current system look older and older,and more likely for older processors (like the 6700k...) to become more scarce as a new product. As of now Skylake chips are still being sold new,but...now there's coffee lake. There's now three processor families,all with different sockets. Skylake and kaby lake,core X, and now. Coffee lake. Skylake chips are all in abundance now on eBay,and it's sad for people that ended up buying into a chipset and now not really getting a return for higher end chips for my current hardware. While...on the other end of the spectrum. The am4 platform is going to be supported for atleast the next 3 years (quoted from AMD's press conference pre Ryzen 7 launch) with all of this happening I am very inclined to sell my cpu and board and just buy into Ryzen. Intel's strange work with their processor line and (rushed?) new architectures are underwhelming from how I see it,and in ready to get off the Intel train. I'm curious about what you all think I love heated discussion? PS. No fanboying please ._.

Hey I am building a system for my Parents and they still have windows 7 on their old PC. And they dont want to change to windows 10. My problem is the dickmove Microsoft did with stopping support for Win 7 on Kaby lake CPUs. Are the only two solutions to either stick with older hardware like Haswell to be sure windows 7 works at least until 2020 when they kill it ultimatly or convincing my parents to switch to win 10? The Problem is i live like 300-400 kilometers away from my parents and cant just come over to troubleshoot some issue (sadly) so i need a system which has little issues to begin with. Thanks for any advice or suggestions. Zer0Mo

Bloody well knew it, Intel won't allow Kaby Lake processors to work on Z370 motherboards even though they can. Also Z370 will only support Covfefe and nothing else. So Cannon Lake or Ice Lake or whatever the next one is because honestly I don't even know which is switch anymore, won't work on Z370. So if you're planning on getting Covfefe do yourself a favor and get a Z390 motherboard which according to some rumors that I can't find right now, I'm sure someone will post them if they can or want to, will support Covfefe and whatever the next one is. Quote from Hilbert: Source: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-z370-chipset-could-support-kaby-lake-but-intel-will-not-allow-it.html Oh and based on what he's saying it would seem like Z270 might've worked with Covfefe. But don't take it as an absolute since it's just speculation. Which knowing how Intel works, I wouldn't be surprised if they indeed worked.