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Does anyone know if Fractal is going to release a white version of this case? Just wondering and I know you guys know stuff. Any knoledge?

Hi everyone, I am currently in a dilemma between these 2 cases. I have gathered most of my parts for my first PC build and the case is the only remaining component.My PC specs:CPU: i5-7600 3.5ghz processorCPU cooler: Cryorig M9iMobo: MSI B250M MortarRAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400mhzGPU: MSI GTX 1070 Gaming XPSU: Evga G3 550W 80+ GoldSSD: Samsung EVO 850 250GBHDD: WD 1TB 7200RPMFor my first PC, I want a case that has decent build quality and good airflow to ensure the CPU and GPU do not exceed 75c (preferably 70) while gaming. I am a heavy user and do not plan to do any overclocking.I did not consider the NZXT elite as I've read that tempered glass has higher temps, heavier and more expensive. From where I live, it costs $40 more than its predecessor so I don't think it's worth it. I'm not really into aesthetics so no LEDs for me but I do like the looks of the bridge and the inclusions of 2 exhaust fans of the NZXT which will allow me to get 2x140mm Corsair AF fans for front intake to provide a neutral airflow and cooler temps. The case ($109) + 2 fans ($40) sums up to $149.As for the Fractal Design Define Mini C, I love the simplicity, cable management and build quality of the case so a non-windowed version is preferred to minimise noise and possibly decrease temps with the closed window panel. In addition to this, I do not have to worry much about the window being scratched or damaged. Based on what I've read, the case has higher temps compared to the NZXT S340 but lower noise level. I am more concerned to the temps rather than the noise as I will be on headphones most of the time. For this case, I will be getting a Noctua NF-S12A case fan for exhaust and use the 2 stocks fans as front intake. No top fans as this will increase the noise level. From where I live, the case ($139) + exhaust fan ($28) sums up to $167.In conclusion, the NZXT S340 is cheaper with better airflow and looks but the Mini C has better build quality, quieter and more compact (size and weight). Can anyone please solve my dilemma and provide some advice/suggestions? It'd be much appreciated.

I just finished building my first PC, part list here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LB3kM8 When I first tried to boot it up it the fans came on and the LEDs lit up (yay!) but it would not display anything on my monitor (darn!). Upon browsing some forums I took the advice I found and unplugged my gpu, after which the system booted and displayed fine (YAY!). However, the problem still remains that when I try to boot the system with my graphics card plugged in nothing displays. I have tried installing the latest drivers from NVIDIA and searching for it in the device manager (even under hidden devices), but neither of these have helped. I am truly at a loss here, I would really appreciate it if someone would give me some advice. Thanks! P.S. when I tried to install the NVIDIA drivers the message appeared: "No compatible hardware detected". I tried searching this online but all of the solutions said the same thing "Reinstall the drivers and make sure its not disabled in the device manager." The problem here is that it is not anywhere in the device manager, not under Display Adapters or Other Devices as "Unknown Device", and reinstalling the drivers yielded the same result. Like I said, I am truly at a loss as it is a brand new graphics card.

I've been looking for hours today and can't find any stats on the maximum graphics card width for this case. Their website says it is dual slot compatible but it doesn't say if there is clearance for cards with bigger cooling solutions. Does anyone know if this case will hold a graphics card that is more than 2 slots wide? I'm wanting to put a 3 slot card in it and need to know if it will fit before I buy. Thanks

PC Specification: Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H CPU: Intel i7-4790K PSU: Cosair CS850M GPU: XFX RX480 8GB x2 RAM: 32GB DDR3 1600MHz Cooler: Cosair H115i 280mm Storage: 2x 512 SSDs, 1x 3TB HDD Back story: Had my setup above running in a ThermalTake Core V21 case but it was too wide and stocky for my desk. Looked into what cases are on the market and decided to go for the Fractal Design Define Mini C as it can support upto 5 drives and is almost half the width of the v21 Pictures: Much happier with the space saved. Just need to get myself a few Red braided 6pin GPU cables and some heat wrap for the 24pin

The day has finally come. I just saw link to these puppies on Fractal Design's Polish Facebook page. It seems that release just happened. Quick check to Youtube shows that there's only few videos about these from some small channels. Couldn't find any word from pricing though. Fractal Design Define C TG Fractal Design Define Mini C TG It is exactly what you'd expect, Define C and Mini C with TG window. Everything everyone has ever wanted. Images taken directly from FD website. Thoughts?

After 3 years of saving up my cash, I finally can afford to build my own gaming PC. My goal is to create an absolute quiet build, to do so I need to pick the right case. After doing some research, I have three cases I believe can help achieve this goal. They are: be quiet! Silent Base 600, Fractal Design Define C or the Phanteks Eclipse P400S. Keep in mind that I won't be water-cooling my PC and I only need two SSDs and no HDDs. If these cases aren't the quietest out there, please give me some new suggestions. And if these are the best, which is the Betterier-Bestest of them all?

Hi. I'm an enthusiast of water cooling, have been since Athlon Thunderbird. I've built many, many systems that incorporate water cooling over the years. Some personal favourites include copper pipes around an early generation Silverstone SFF Cube case and using a Sunon 220CFM, 120mm (yes, you read that right) fan to cool a nice, chunky 60mm thick car heater block radiator. It was loud... up to 110dB loud. It came with a danger label warning against finger amputation. So recently I just installed a Fractal Design Kelvin T12 AIO in my old-school IBM PC300GL mATX system which is running an i7-4770k with GTX 970. I expanded the loop to include a now discontinued (thus why I had to do it now) EK GPU water block and the whole thing was surprisingly easy to do. I've seen drops of 10 to 20 degrees celcius (depending on game) on both the CPU and GPU at full gaming load, which from a single 120mm radiator in a very tight mATX case is so very impressive. I previously had a Cryorig C7 installed on the CPU, if you wanted to know as the case design puts the PSU above the CPU, severely limiting CPU cooler clearance. I was considering upgrading to the Cryorig C1, but after spending so much time reading reviews I decided the most benefit would likely be from an AIO system, IF I could make room for a full sized, non-slim radiator. Thus the opportunity to get a half-priced clearance GTX 970 water block was too hard to pass up and made the decision for me. With the extra room available by removing the stock blower style GTX 970 cooler, and the need for expandability, the Kelvin T12 was the clear winning solution. I've used AIOs before but the results weren't anything to write home about as to fit in with an air cooled GTX 760 and now 970 I had to choose slim radiator options. They barely improved on temperatures over similarly priced quality low profile air coolers. Switching to the GPU water block and the thicker 42mm Fractal Design Kelvin T12 AIO radiator really made a difference that I really appreciate for being able to continue to use my much loved mATX case. It really is incredible that even a 120mm system can handle the load of an overclocked i7-4770k (4.2GHz) and a GTX 970 at 1300MHz+, keeping temperatures lower than they were on air cooling. Totally worth it in my opinion, and so much cheaper than a custom water cooling build. If there's interest I'll post some pictures of my system. But I hope, for now, my post has helped people decide on whether it's worth buying an AIO system now if they might consider expanding to add more water cooling in the future. Yep, I say it is

hey any1 bought the new fractal design meshify and build in it? i just ordered it cus my current phanteks enthoo pro m was abit to thick and long for taking home to my dad and mom, i travel between them every so often

Does this look good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckL7QV Please leave suggestions.

I received it in the mail today and there's nothing "mini" about it. It's not a small form factor case: Width: Same as a full-sized ATX case Height: It's maybe 20% less height than a full-sized ATX case (no gain in footprint) Length: It's about as long as the average overweight (but not morbidly obese) American is wide. Weight: It's quite heavy and not convenient to carry between rooms at all. My last PC was a prebuilt Dell gaming tower from 2012, and it's only slightly smaller than that. If you can get a good MATX motherboard with all the features you want (at a reasonable price), then go for the slightly smaller tower. But don't make any sacrifices to achieve a smaller form factor motherboard just to use it inside of a fairly large case. With that being said, I love this case so far because it's a great case regardless of its size. It has all the functionality I want. Great ventilation. It's reasonably priced, looks very premium in just about every regard and no corners were cut. It's exactly as good as it looks like on internet (in terms of build quality and aesthetic), except it's a bit larger than I expected. I'm very happy with my choice overall though.

I've sort of fallen in love with the looks of the Meshify C from Fractal Design, but my new motherboard is E-ATX. I don't suppose there have been any rumors to Fractal making a bigger Meshify case? And if not, are there any similar cases on the market that do support E-ATX motherboards?

Hello everyone, I have just started parting out a new itx build and two of my major planned components are a gtx 1060 6gb and a node 202 case. I've also settled on the gigabyte aorus xtreme 1060 6gb card. Here is the newegg link to the model: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-125-970 The depth of the card is 59mm according to gigabyte's website, and from what I read, with 10mm fans, there is 50mm clearance for the card in the node 202, which makes me think that there is 60mm total clearance. What I wanted to know is if there is a catch somewhere that would prevent me from using the entire 60mm clearance for the card. The card uses 287/310mm of the available length, so the front i/o shouldn't be an issue, but as I have not seen the case or card in person, I don't know for sure. Here is the parts list I put together: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yMGhQV Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

I was about to get the Phanteks P400s but then I heard complaints of terrible airflow and what not. Then I found out Fractal Design released a New PC case called the Meshify C and I'm really interested in it. Should I get the Meshify C as my very first PC Case or no get something else?

Is it normal for the fittings to turn indefinitely on watergate block of the fractal design Celsius s36? I thought I accidentally loosened one so I tried to tighten it and it doesn’t tighten. one of the hoses is a bit tight with the way I had to mount it too. am I okay here?

Introduction As a person older than Linus, there're three things that get on your nerves the longer you're around: slow computers, fan noise, and that damned bright RGB radiation. Now that I have kids too, all I want is some god-d***ed peace and quiet. So when I decided to build a new work/play rig I decided that focusing on performance and noise would come first, LEDS can be fixed with a wire cutter or a hammer. I put together a Ryzen 1600 build pretty cheaply using the stock cooler and an old aluminum Thermaltake Tsunami case, but the noise was terrible. The Aluminum case reverbed all the noise, the fan on the stock Ryzen cooler clicked at certain speeds, and it ran hot. It was time to go to war. After endless comparisons of air vs water, how silence vs mesh cooling perf, I ended up deciding on the Fractal Design Meshify C case and the Thermalright Le Grande Macho RT air cooler. I wanted to see if you could have a mesh case, good cooling, AND almost no noise. Test Specifications Common Hardware AMD Ryzen 1600 at Stock & 3.6 Ghz Overclock speeds Asus PRIME X370-PRO Motherboard EVGA SuperSC 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory @ 2933 speed Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card SeaSonic PRIME Titanium 750W PSU Noctua NT-H1 Thermal Paste Measurements & Methodology We will be measuring Noise and Temperature readings for each setup iteration. To generate as much load and heat as possible, IntelBurnTest (IBT) and Furmark (FM) will be run at the same time. IBT will run a Standard Stress Test utilizing all cores/threads, and FM will run the “GPU stress test” at 1920x1080. Noise Noise will be measured using the Niosh Sound Level Meter App for iPhone, which is a free calibrated app for collecting A-weighted noise measurements. It will be measured while idle, and at the end of the testing cycle at two locations: 15cm diagonal to the front/left corner of the case to simulate the PC on the desk 1 meter diagonal to the front/left/top vertex corner of the case, which tends to be where my head is while sitting in a chair with the case on the floor under the desk. The environment will be as controlled as possible, with HVAC, refrigerators, and other noise generating sources turned off. Tests are run during quiet times, which resulted in an approximately 22dB background noise level. Temperature Temperature readings will be collected using HWiNFO, and logged to CSV for analysis. The environment will be as controlled as possible, with HVAC keeping the room steady at 22C, and only shutoff at the beginning and end of tests to measure noise levels. Variables Tested We will be testing the following setup iterations: Old Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case + Stock AMD Wraith Spire cooler Fractal Design Meshify C case + Stock AMD Wraith Spire cooler Fractal Design Meshify C case + Thermalright Le Grande Macho RT cooler Fan setup iterations on #3 Fractal Design Meshify C Review Since we’ve all seen 10 unboxing videos with slow panning 4k b-roll, techno music, and small plastic potted plants, I’ll skip to my thoughts from the build: Pros Love the design Front panel has a nice “low-poly” design, should help hide dents / damage over time Rim of front panel reminds me of a jet engine intake cowl, brings images of airflow Tempered Glass and good airflow for $89 Has decent supplied fans Case feels solid for how light it is The power LED is subtle, very nice for us anti-rgb crowd Cons Stripped out two motherboard mounts while installing them with not much force. Tight fit with my longer 175mm PSU, can’t see using HDD cage with this size PSU, especially with my meaty mitts. Could not find a nice way to route the USB 3.0 cable for the front panel. It’s nearly too big to fit through the middle shroud hole, and then has to take a 90° turn to hit the motherboard header. This also resulted in a strained diagonal cable across the back of the case, so I went through the large grommeted holes to the right of the motherboard. Leaks sound like a screen door (who knew?). You will hear your crappy CPU cooler fans and coil whine from your motherboard or graphics board. Since it’s mesh on top, front, and back, the noise might bounce off more surfaces in your room, and into your ear. Design Improvement Suggestions Would have been nice to get a solid Moduvent for the top if you don’t need the extra mesh / venting. Would have been nice to have some soundproofing on the metal side panel. Would have been nice to have a 140mm fan support on the back instead of 120mm USB3.0 front panel cable needs to be longer to use with the supplied shroud hole. A more flexible connector for the end of the USB3.0 front panel cable would be nice for tight turns. A shroud hole for GPU power would be nice too. Front and backmost shroud holes could be bigger / have rubber grommets. Front IO could have been on separate panel so it’s not attached to the removable door - would make the mesh easier to clean It’s 2017, have a USB type C connector! Maybe if Fractal Josh stopped going on yacht trips to the flippin’ Catalina Wine Mixer they could have afforded this. Build Tips If you don’t need the hard drive cage, remove it before doing anything else. Can’t remove with PSU in. If you are putting this on carpet, face the PSU fan UP. Figure out routing the front panel cables before doing any other cabling, especially the USB cable. Thermalright Le Grande Macho RT Review I looked this up in an online translator, and apparently the name means “the great chauvinistic pig”, hopefully it’s a pig for CPU heat and it doesn’t offend any of the lady folk. Why This Cooler Finding this cooler was a trip, I originally wanted something cool and quiet of course, and was leaning towards an AIO kit because I postulated in my head that it would be more resilient to a child tipping my case over. A 1KG air cooler would have a hell of a lot more torque / pressure on the motherboard than a liquid cooling block would if it fell over. So I was looking for an all-copper 240mm solution, and first settled on Be Quiet!’s Silent Loop cooler, but I couldn’t find it for under $200 or so dollars, and that’s because it had to be imported by a third party. I contacted their support, and found out they can’t sell it here in North America because of patent issues, which was interesting. I looked at some other AIO solutions, reviews, etc and couldn’t fall in love with another solution. Also some of the pumps noise recordings in the reviews reminded me of a fish tank aerator pump, which also turned me off of liquid cooling. Looking at air coolers again, I was going to go with the shiny khakis & poo colored Noctua DH-15 or a Be Quiet Dark Rock 3, but then I found this guy on a TechPowerUp review, and it came in both cooler, quieter, and cheaper than the other two. So of course, I needed to review it. Pros Love the design, all you see is the anodized black plate and heatpipes. It hides everything else around your CPU socket. Cheaper than similar Noctua offerings. Comes with the Thermalright TY-147a, a PWM fan that apparently doesn’t suck at low speeds. No ticking like the Wraith Spire fan! Comes with small skin-saving gloves, and a very nice long screwdriver, and a low speed adapter. Base plate is nickel-plated copper, with a nice polished finish. Assembly was a breeze. Hides messy fan cables with no effort! Cons May not fit your motherboard / memory / case. Want to change the rear case fan whose header is under this thing? Say hello to removing your graphics card, and using offset pliers. Be careful when clipping the fan on. I was sloppy and dragged the anti-vibration pads off of the fins - had to start over. Improvement Suggestions I wish it was sold more places, I bought mine off of the only approved US reseller on Amazon. Would be great to see a version with a larger baseplate for TR4 applications. Build Tips Do a dry fit with your memory before fitting the fan in place. Mine cleared it, but I ended up unclipping/reclipping it lower to get more air over the VRMs. Test Results and Thoughts And the scientific results are in… Configurations Key: Tsunami Stock / Tsunami 3.6 Ghz - Tsunami Dream Case, Wraith Spire Cooler, 1 Noctua + 1 Be Quiet! 120mm fans. Meshify Stock / Meshify 3.6 Ghz - Meshify Case, Wraith Spire Cooler, 2 stock Meshify 120mm fans. Macho Meshify / Macho Meshify 3.6 Ghz - Meshify Case, Le Grande Macho cooler, 2 stock Meshify 120mm fans. 3 Quiet Fans 3.6 Ghz - Meshify Case, Le Grande Macho cooler, 2 stock Meshify 120mm fans with low speed adapters, 1 Noctua 120mm fan with low speed adapter. 3 Noctua Fans 3.6 Ghz - Meshify Case, Le Grande Macho cooler, 2 Noctua 140mm fans, 1 Noctua 120mm fan. Stock Ryzen 1600 Results Ryzen 1600 3.6 Ghz Overclock Results With every iteration we were able to reduce the noise, temperature, or both. Focusing on the 3.6Ghz tests, noise at the floor level was reduced 9.5dB, max CPU temperatures reduced 21.6C, and max GPU temps reduced 5C. Using my subjective ears, I like the final fan setup the most as well. Using all Noctua fans for the case changes the tone and feel of the fan noise to be mostly unobtrusive. At head level and full load I get readings of 22.3 dB, which is barely above background noise. It amounts to “is there a fan on, somewhere upstairs?”. The fridge in the next room is louder than it, the HVAC blower is louder than it, the dehumidifier in the basement is louder than it. It is essentially silent in this environment. The only downside to something this quiet is that up close you do hear coil whine and other electronics noise, especially when FurMark is thrashing the graphics card. Conclusions The Fractal Design Meshify C is cooler and quieter than a 12 year old Thermaltake Tsunami Dream. The Le Grand Macho RT cooler is cooler and quieter than an AMD Wraith Spire cooler. Noctua fans may be ugly, but this 3 fan setup is cooler and quieter than the stock Fractal Design fans. If I were to do these tests again, I hope to keep a better notebook as I forgot to take a few readings here and there. I would also give the system time to cool between runs, as the idle temps were skewed because of a quick test cycle. I also hope to purchase a better noise level meter if I get into noise testing. As for what I did with the damned RGB, I ended up adding a UV strip, and doing a little infilling of the Fractal Design logo with UV/Neon paint. This gave it a nice ghostly ultra-violet iradescence, and all you can see while the system is running are the creeping fans and shiny heat pipes everywhere. It can't be fully captured with a camera, but here's the best pictures I have. Thanks for reading!

I have 3 noctua nf-f12's from an old build that I'm going to use instead of the fans that come with the fractal design s36... Do you think I should still use the ones that come with the s36 in pull and put the noctua ones in push? or is it just not worth extra noise and not being able to access the radiator to clean it as easily? I'm trying to make up my mind on that before it comes in the mail. Any thoughts? I'm leaning towards just doing a pull configuration with the noctuas and ditching the fans that come with it.. That'd look at lot cleaner and less bulky.

Where is the pump in the Fractal Design celcius s36? The CPU block or radiator. I'm almost certain it's in the block, but better not assume. I want to know for future expandablity. If it's in the block, then I can ditch that and just use the radiator later on in a custom water loop with a better pump. It's also important to know because this one has a copper plate on the block and an aluminum radiator so I wouldn't want to do a custom loop with it with it's original CPU block. If I ever do that, I'm going to use one of EK's aluminum kits combined with this radiator.

I currently have an 1800X OC'D to 4.0ghz @ 1.38V and 2 Asus Strix OC 1080 ti's both OC'D to 2075 Mhz, I'm using a Fractal Define C case and am wanting to water cool, what I know is if a 360mm rad and a 240mm rad be enough to properly cool this system? Haven't purchased parts yet, will this case have to rad capacity I need or do I need to get a bigger a case? Would greatly appreciate any input or advice on this and thanks in advance guys!

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/KillSwitch87/saved/xWyJxr The parts are already bought and awaiting assembly, just as soon as I decide on a CPU cooler. I'm currently using a Corsair H-something (forgot but it's a small one fan unit) on my PC but need/want a new cooler for the new one. I've never had an issue with Corsair and they have an amazing warranty but heard they changed the pump design (due to some legalities)to a more failure prone one so I was wondering if there are any better, as in more reliable options I could choose from? It doesn't have to be 'worth it' I just like the look of liquid coolers and dislike air coolers but I do want good quality and reliability (as in don't flood or fry my system, I work from it and can't have it down for even days not to mention weeks) Any suggestions welcome, experiences, advice welcome. TIA P.S.: custom loops look amazing but I'm a slob and would mess it up so that's out

http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/water-cooling/celsius-s36 What are your thoughts on this 360 all in one? I want to get into custom watercooling eventually and this one is expandable. I don't like the fact that you can only remove the tubing on the radiator side and not on the CPU block... but I was thinking... if you were to expand on this cooler and build a loop around it, you'd technically have two pumps. You'd have the one in the AIO as backup if your other pump failed. That's nice insurance.. How is the cooler itself though? I keep hearing people say: Don't buy expandable all in ones.. but this is fractal design and I've never seen anything bad by them.. It looks like it's just a regular AIO but with fittings you can remove on the radiator side.

Everyone, so i just found out that PC Part Picker is featuring Fractal Design's new case, that is Focus G! I kinda like it and i felt it was made to replace Define S from the same brand. With a side window i can not resist it. Here are some photos and specs and @LinusTech can you do a review on this freakin case? I just like their spacy concept of cases they made and no sharp edges. PC Part Picker Link Fractal Design Official Link to the case

Hey guys, I was planning on buying fans for my system, however I don't know how many my system can support. There are 3 fan inputs on my motherboard but my case says it has an integrated fan controller to support up to 3 fans. Does this mean I can use 6 or can I only use 3. Thanks.

Hi! I am planning to build a system featuring an Asus GTX 1060 Strix and Fractal Design Define Mini C. The case has "maximum graphics card length" of 315mm while the 1060 Strix is 298mm in length. That leaves about 1,5cm of space between the card and front fan. Is it enough? What are the chances that I'll run into some problems with card/case? I managed to find a picture that features the case I want to use and (probably) a 1060 or 1070 Strix (they have the same cooler). My setup would look a little different with second front fan and (possibly) a top fan. Is it: "If it fits, it sits?" Does this look okay to you? (Btw. If I posted it in a wrong category, sorry. I was torn between "cases" and "graphics cards" )

Hello, I already think I'm stupid for starting a topic on this... well.. topic, haha! I have a Fractal Design Define C case in wich I built my system. The problem is that I can't get the power button of the case to work, the led around it lights up and I THINK that I plugged the front IO connectors correctly. I have to mention that the reset switch works, USB's and the HDD led lights up and work no problem. Things I tried to do: - switch the contacts in the other way - use the included motherboard adapter The Motherboard is an ASUS Z270 TUF Mark I Below is a picture with the connectors shown in the manual: