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Hey guys! I am from Austrian (nope, not the one with kangaroos ^.^), BUT i have followed Linus' tech tips (see what i did there? ) eversince i started building my first pc o.m.o. However... I want to purchase a new gpu because my 280x one seems to be getting too weak for 2 x 1080p monitors gaming/streaming stuff. I set my budget to a maximum of 500€ (wich is about 550 $, so + 10%). Personally I was thinking of an r9 390x (~ 450€), but because the 390 "non-x" is just about 5-10 % slower according to several benchmarks i've seen yet, but costs only 350 - 380 € - that's almost a fourth cheaper?! - should i go with one of those instead? I don't know much about the nvidia side of the force, so if there are some copatitive ones i have overseen in the reviews i have seen yet, then pls tell meh! Oh yeah, here's a list of my actual PC components: - AMD FX 8350 @ 4.6 ghz on water - Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 mobo - 16 gb ram @ 1600 mhz - Sapphire R9 280x 3gb - big-tower case - 2 monitors, one with HDMI, the other with DVI port
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2 x Radeon 390x or single Gtx980Ti I know that 390x means more perfomence but i dont know what games Crossfire supports. I plan gamming on 1440p If anyone have something like "list" of games that crossfire suppors or etc. please post it Regards Redjo
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Hi there! I'm in the process of building my first (gaming) rig. In my country, the GTX 970 sells for 440USD while the R9 390X surprisingly sells for only 22USD more. Should I jump to the AMD boat? Or stick with the Windforce card. I do plan to overclock but right now, the priority is to get the best deal and the R9 390X looks tempting. My build will basically consist of an i5 4690K, Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212X, Gigabyte Gaming 5 Z97 Mobo, 16GB of Ram, 256GB SSD. I currently have a Dell u2410 (1920 x 1200) and I'll buy another one down the line. Aside from gaming, I plan to do photography editing on the rig and that explains my choice of monitor.
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I am looking to buy a new GPU to replace my GTX 660 3GB. It's getting a bit old and games are starting to turn their noses up at it. This will not do. I need an upgrade. So I have been having a bit of an internal struggle lately. I've been looking at the AMD's 390 and 390X as well as the GTX 970 and 980. About twice a week, I make a soft decision on one card or another, then change my mind and plan on getting another card. I'm hoping you fine experts and hobbyist can help me with my indecision and get me playing "The Witcher 3" in style. What I Am Working With - My TV is a 1080p with a 60 fps refresh rate. - I have a new Corsair HX750i PSU (Love it!) - I have a humble FX 6300 that I OC'd to 4.4 Ghz (I will upgrade this next) - 16GB RAM What I Am Going Back And Forth Over - I like the R9 300 series mainly because of the extra RAM. I realize that the vast majority of games today don't need more than the 3.5GB Nvidia gives you. however, what does the future hold? Will developers start asking for more VRAM now that the AMD (and I assume Nvidia's next line) gives you more? - If i go 390(X) i'll have the VRAM to spare and keep my card relevant for the unknown future. However, my 750 watt GPU won't be able to handle 2 in crossfire. So, I'm stuck with a single card. That means i'd likely go with the R9 390X and that makes the AMD route a pricier one. - The Nvidia GTX 970 is an attractive option due to it's lower price and it's low power consumption. I can SLI 970's to keep up with the times if I need to and not trash my pretty new power supply in a year or so. From what I've been reading and watching, two 970's can keep the pace with the best cards currently out there. - Though, SLIing a 970 doesn't give me more VRAM. If games start demanding more VRAM, I'll need to replace the card in a few years. - Lately developers have taken an apathetic approach to PC hardware optimization. Will the 970 even be able to handle games in these dark times? Conclusion So, I go in circles over this. Lately I've been thinking about getting a card that will get me through the next couple years, kick the can down the road and choose between the GTX 1180 and R9 590X. By then i'll have more money to throw at this problem. So, what card do you think would be best to keep me playing games for the 1.5-2 years? Will VRAM be something i need to worry of or shut up about already? thank you for reading and your help.
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I recently purchased two 390x’s for a new 4K gaming PC that I am building. At the time, I thought it was a good deal as the two 390x’s were $860. Two 980’s are $1,000, and two 980 ti’s are $1,300. I thought it was a good deal, especially since the 390x’s have 8 GB of vram. However, after thinking about it more, I am now starting to have some serious concerns and doubts about this purchase. These concerns are not related to the 390x specifically, but rather to the quality and reliability of AMD products in general. My major concerns are: 1) The 390x consumes much more power than a 980 ti, even though the latter is a more powerful card. This in and of itself doesn’t bother me (I have a 1000W power supply), but does this mean that a 980 ti would last significantly longer than a 390x? Would I get several more years of use out of a 980 ti before it fails? This is extremely important to me, as I don’t want to build a new system for 4-5 years after this. 2) Given that the 390x consumes much more power than a 980 ti, this also means it generates much more heat. At full load, is the 390x going to be much more loud than the 980 ti? Silence is also very important to me. 3) Is Nvidia’s driver support for SLI much better than AMD’s driver support for Crossfire? I’ve heard a lot of mixed opinions on this, but the overall consensus seems to be that Nvidia provides better driver support (and that they have a lot less issues with their drivers to begin with). I definitely don't want to have any headaches dealing with driver issues. 4) With things like GameWorks, are we going in the direction of having many games in the future that will perform much better on Nvidia cards than on AMD cards? This is very concerning to me as well. On the flip side, I am also curious of just how much better the 980 ti is than the 390x, and specifically of the performance (FPS) differences of two 980 ti’s in SLI vs two 390x’s in crossfire. In 4k gaming on ultra settings, how much more FPS could I realistically expect to get with two 980 ti’s in SLI vs two 390x’s in crossfire? Would it be just a slight gain in FPS (e.g., 5-8 more FPS), or would it be a more significant gain in FPS (e.g., 15-20+ more FPS)? I would want the gain in FPS to be significant in order to justify the additional cost of switching to two 980 ti's. I’ve ruled out the option of getting two 980’s; I see no point to pay more for something that performs the same as a 390x and has less vram. So the two options that I am considering are: 1) Keep my two 390x’s 2) Return my two 390x’s, and get two 980 ti’s instead (this will cost me $440 more) I can afford the two 980 ti’s, I just need to be able to justify the cost to myself. So please convince me one way or the other!
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After the launch of the 300 series AMD has been copping a lot of flack for the re-branding of their 200 series cards. I'm by no means an AMD fan boy and have used both AMD and Nvidia gpu's in the past and been happy with both. However I'm wondering why this is being seen as such an unforgivable act? Particularly when the performance of the 300 series cards are very competitive with the similarly price GTX 900 series counter part. Even beating the 900 series cards particularly at the lower price point. Developing entirely new processing units is extremely expensive particularly when it may not ensure better performance then their existing chip. So long as AMD passes the saves of not developing totally new processing units onto the consumer for their lower end cards, I think this is somewhat acceptable in my opinion. What do you guys think?
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I’m having quite a difficult time trying to choose the most optimal graphic card(s) for a 4K gaming PC that I am in the process of building. I want to be able to game at 4K resolution on high/ultra settings and maintain 60+ FPS as much as possible. I’m willing to spend up to $1,000 on graphic cards, but I also want a solution that is truly going to be the best bang for my buck. So far, I’m considering three options (but I am certainly open to other suggestions!) for graphics: 1) One AMD R9 295x2 (automatically crossfire) (cost: ~$750) 2) Two AMD R9 390x’s (crossfire) (cost: ~$880) 3) Two Nvidia GTX 980’s (SLI) (cost: ~$1,000) My first question is, is there even any difference between one 295x2 and two 390x’s? My understanding is that the 390x is just a rehash of the 290x with more memory, and the 295x2 is two 290x’s on one card. Would two 390x’s in crossfire outperform the 295x2, or would the performance be about the same? If there is no performance gain, I would prefer the 295x2 for two reasons 1) its cheaper and 2) it already comes with a radiator, fan, and a closed-loop liquid cooling solution, whereas the 390x does not. And this brings me to my next question. Is it true that, in general, an AMD card will run much hotter and use a lot more power than its equivalent Nvidia counterpart? If I did end up going with two 390x’s, would I need to purchase a separate liquid cooling solution for both of the cards to keep their temperatures at a reasonable level? On the Nvidia side, would two 980’s in SLI be worth it? I know two 980’s in SLI are extremely powerful, but given the cost of this option compared to the two AMD options, would the cost of this solution truly be worth it? Would this solution outperform the AMD solutions? Would these two cards require the purchase of a separate liquid cooling solution to manage their temperatures? Finally, how many watts will my power supply need to support all of these options? Also, feel free to suggest and recommend graphic card solutions other than those I listed (but please explain why you are recommending it).
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I bought a 970 G1 gaming about 3 weeks ago and its great but if the 390x, 380x or 370x outperform it at a more value price then I am just still in my 30 day return window. I could make up some BS about the fans being too loud(which they kinda are), they would probably take it back. Then I could wait until the 300 series comes out and look at my options then. Any estimates on the pricing?
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It looks like we're seeing the beginnings of SAPPHIRE's new GPU, which is going under the guise of 'Project NFC.' What is Project NFC?NFC = Not From Concentrate (NFC is a computer chassis design company (https://www.facebook.com/nfcsys) (http://nfc-systems.com/) ) not near field communication More information will be release on january 2015 UPDATE* 1* After some research this some how links to these It is a build log of the product. http://www.rsmsl.com/not-from-concentrate/2014/11/26/not-from-concentrate-ep-1-meet-josh at 8:28 u can see the finished product. 2* And they locked the video... 3*much digging NFC is a computer chassis design company (https://www.facebook.com/nfcsys) (http://nfc-systems.com/) 4* manage to ss before video was locked picture above is a comparisons with the teaser sketch and actual finish mod. please no sue me T_T Sorry to disappoint, but there seems to be no watecooling involved. Update 5* i manage to have the video, though not the full video, most important part are in there http://youtu.be/tuFFnM-X3Ho (sorry for mouse scroll being recorded , logitech g502 scroll wheel is loud. lol) Final conclusion This is bascialy a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4GB graphics Card with custom modding done by NFC So all those "site" that are claiming that the teaser is going to be a new card is wrong.
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390X http://www.sisoftware.eu/rank2011d/show_run.php?q=c2ffccfddbbadbe6deedd4e7d3f587ba8aacc9ac91a187f4c9f9&l=en 390 http://www.sisoftware.eu/rank2011d/show_run.php?q=c2ffccfddbbadbe6deeddaeed6f082bf8fa9cca994a482f1ccf4&l=en that's a lot of stream processors on a single card SOURCE
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AMD Radeon R9 390X cooler leaked It looks like AMD is going with AIO watercooling for a Future high end Single Cored GPU Reference design, as a picture leaks revealing what looks like a R9 295X2 variant which is designed to cool a Future Single cored GPU (Likely the R9 390X). This picture was leaked by Videocardz today: As we can see in the picture above this cooler is very similar to that of the R9 295X2, but for a single cored CPU. Beside the Red Redeon lettering we can see holes in the sides for Water cooling hose to be routed through. Given Asetek made the R9 295X2's water cooling, we would assume that they are making the AIO water cooling components for these next generation components. Videocardz also found this press release from Asetek which pretty much confirms this. Press Release: Thursday, August 14, 2014 — Asetek® today announced that it has secured a design win with an undisclosed OEM customer for a graphics liquid cooling product. The ambitious project is forecasted by the customer to result in 2 – 4 million dollars of revenue. Shipping is scheduled to begin in the first half of 2015. The design win continues Asetek’s success in the growing graphics liquid cooling market. (..) Hopefully this does not mean that AMD's Next Generation GPUs will not be as famously hot running as the last, but it seems that AMD cannot make a cool enough or quiet enough GPU cooler without the Aid of water cooling. Source http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_radeon_r9_390x_cooler_leaked/1 I don't think they will be so hot that they will need AIO but better cooling is all ways a plus.
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We know Maxwell is coming and prices for the GTX 980 and 970 have already been leaked but AMD is not standing still either. New leaks indicate that AMD's brand new liquid cooling design from Asetek which debuted on the R9 295X2 is evidently coming with a new single-GPU card. Allegedly the R9 390X. Now if you guys remember a few months back I broke the news on LTT about AMD's two next generation GPUs. One measuring ~350mm² and the other measuring ~500mm². Now we can confirm that the first has been launched and it's the Tonga GPU powering the R9 285 and the upcoming R9 285X. The second GPU measuring in at ~500mm² makes it a massive chip and certainly the largest AMD has ever made. Liquid cooling would certainly be a requirement at this point to cool such a large GPU at reasonable acoustics and temperatures. Source
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TSMC is acclerating its 16nm process and as was previously leaked the GM200 core powering the 880 Ti or Titan II is 16nm. So we could be seeing the 880 Ti coming very soon . For the details check the Source .
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NOTE: No site has reported on this until now, so this is essentially breaking news. I expect WCCFTech to pick it up very soon. UPDATE: VideoCardz & WCCFTech picked the news story up but I'm happy to announce that we've beaten them to the punch! This leak is very interesting, the source is not AMD or any of its board partners, it's actually not really a leak either. Synapse Design is a company that offers services such as software and development SDKs to help companies like AMD design floor plans for chips. These floor plans are then used to start manufacturing the chips at third party fabs such as TSMC & Globalfoundries. When a floor plan is finalized that's labeled as a "tape out" in semiconductors. Well Synapse Design just recently released a list of the chips which have been taped out in the last 12 months by a number of their partners. At the top of the list are two VERY interesting chips, both of which are large GPUs. Synapse Design only has one client which makes GPUs this large & that's AMD. http://www.synapse-da.com/Corporate/Clients To put this into perspective the Hawaii GPU powering the R9 290X is 438mm² large & the GK110 GPU powering the 780 Ti is 551mm² large. According to Synapse Design they have taped out a 500mm²+ GPU & a 350mm²+ GPU. AMD's largest GPU ever was Hawaii so AMD has never designed a GPU this large before so I'm very interested to see the implications of this. These two new GPUs might very well end up being AMD's upcoming successors to the 290X and 280X, presumably the 390X and 380X. 28HPM is a TSMC node so these are not the GPUs which AMD reportedly intends to build at Globalfoundries. The alleged time frame for these chips' release is the second half of 2014 up to the first quarter of 2015 (July 2014 to March 2015)..
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AMD's working on next generation FX CPUs which they haven't disclosed yet according to Roy Taylor AMD's VP of global channel sales. They're also building 20nm GPUs as we speak, they discussed the possibility of 5-way xfire as well as freesync & availability of DDR4. Source
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This report comes directly from Forbes and is quite interesting maybe even a bit controversial. AMD is planning to crash Nvidia's Game24 event in which the GTX 980 and 970 are allegedly going to be revealed for the first time. And I use the term crash here literally rather than figuratively. AMD sent out a message to its fans asking them to attend the event while proudly wearing their colors. Full email below. AMD may also intend to crash the Maxwell party figuratively by releasing a new GPU or perhaps even more than one. We know that Tonga the GPU powering the R9 285 actually has 32 Compute Units amounting to 2048 stream processors so the R9 285 is not the full chip and an R9 285X will inevitably be released. But we've also recently seen a leak featuring an image of a yet unidentified GPU shroud with the same silver & black style of the R9 295X2 but very clearly intended to cool a single GPU card. Perhaps this is the fabled R9 295X or even the R9 390X ? We'll have to wait and see but the GPU wars are definitely heating up.