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dude, did you not notice that he said Australia?!!! A i5- 4460 in Australia is ~265 AUD. I could not find an I5- 4440 on PCPartpicker's Australia site. The only intel part that was sub 200 AUD is the i3-4340 at 195 AUD. On the other hand the FX 8320 is 218 AUD with an 89 AUD gigabyte board giving you 307 AUD If we were to use your parts list the first setup (with i3-4340 instead of i5-4440) you would get: 264 AUD the second would be: 384 AUD And the AMD parts you put: 433 AUD But if would swap the mobo with an Asrock 990FX Extreme3 you get 363 AUD On the other hand, if jkeasley were to keep his board for the A10-6800K he has he could move to the AMD 860K he would spend ~100 AUD from Newegg Australia. If his motherboard was not supporting the AMD Athlon X4 860K he could get the CPU and Motherboard for ~199 AUD with an ASROCK FM2A88X+ Killer motherboard for 99 AUD. So, if he were to go with the 860K, he would get a stronger CPU, and not spend as much as moving to even an Intel core i3 4340 CPU. With AMD he can use OBS and OpenCL which is actually better than Quicksync (source: OBS forums) and AMD VCE. Using AMD's VCE you can stream/record with almost no performance loss, at better low bitrate quality then Shadowplay (Reddit:https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/2chtng/streaming_recording_with_amds_vce_its_good/ ) https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/obs-branch-with-amd-vce-support.13996/. Also, you can NOT guarantee 720p@60fps because it all depends on what he is streaming gameplay of. For example, if he is streaming Arma 3, have fun getting a solid "guaranteed" 720p@60fps. Don't make claims you can not back up because if he goes your route and it backfires, he is going to blame you for telling him something that you can not guarantee. You sound more like an Intel salesman than someone giving sound, unbiased advice.

I will provide you with my advice coming from me using AMD and Intel hardware for gaming, coding, streaming, 3D modelling, Video editing, Audio production and server roles. You go Intel if you have cash to spend and want the highest IPC you can get for mostly single threaded applications. You go AMD, if you are on a budget, don't care if you don't have the highest IPC so long as your experience is not degraded. (don't care if it is solid 60FPS so long as it is 30-60 FPS on average). You also go AMD if you are doing multi-threaded applications or applications that can make use of Multi-cores. there is a difference between Multi-threaded and Multi-core. You can be Multi-threaded on a single core that has Hyperthreading making that one core have 2 threads. Server roles that are 64-bit make an excellent example of this. Look at most enterprise grade servers. They are Dual and Quad socket (2 or 4 processors) servers with hundred of Gigabytes of RAM. That is an example of something that makes use of multiple cores. Otherwise, what is the point of more than one core if a program is only going to use one core but 2 threads? These days most games still only make use of at most 2 cores. For the time being, it is more cost effective to stick with AMD. Especially since you will have to buy a new motherboard. When I went from my FX 8120 to my I7-4770k, I had to buy the processor and the motherboard. It ran me around $500 total. A decent change for you would be to swap your A10 for an 860K. Still the same socket but without the APU. it is a decent Quad core gaming CPU using the FM2+ socket. You can also overclock it to hell and back. Stick a decent cooler on it and you are golden. What you might want to wait for is the release of the AMD Zen chips. when streaming, I found my FX chip served me better than my intel chip. the same goes for 3D modelling, and video editing. I used programs that could make use of more than one core. running Linux is a good way to do that. Under Linux, if I wanted to I could recompile a program specifically for my hardware. FYI, an FX 8320 is 8 cores. Not 6 cores. That is the 6000 series. Also, it is 8 cores. not 8 semi cores equalling 4 full cores. That is Intel math. several years ago CPUs did not have an FPU built in. They were called Co-Processors. And yet, Intel and AMD made CPUs that were considered "full" CPUs. There is no black and white definition of what makes up a "Core". there have been other processors designed in the same manner and they were also considered to be a full processor.

yeah np. Im currently playing with a friend of mine.

yep. totally free too. there is a Zen store but you can convert in game currency to Zen so.....completely free. Frequent expansions.

Is there a Neverwinter guild for LTT? Anyone interested in making one? grouping up for some awesome action? Dungeon crawling?

Actually, OBS does support OpenCL as well as AMD specific codecs. In the "Advanced" section, if you have the current version of OBS, in the text box labelled "Custom x264 Encoder Settings" you can type "opencl=true" and it will share some encoding steps to the graphics card. This sharing is mostly automatically balanced to prevent either your CPU or your GPU from getting overworked. Again, this decreases your total CPU usage. It is not QuickSync, it's OpenCL. In fact, several people have in fact claimed they felt it increased quality. AMD excels at OpenCL so this is a more AMD-centric feature.

I believe people are forgetting about the HSA architecture that AMD introduced. I noticed recently that the Linux 4.4 kernel will have HSA support baked in more thoroughly. Linux is used in the professional and consumer circles. So, it stands to reason that if AMD's Zen chips have HBM baked in, that we could theoretically have a 12 core APU. Most likely 8 CPU cores and 4 GPU cores. Or you could see AMD move the APU to a combined CPU/GPU core. Kinda like a GPGPU setup. Where the FPU is literally handled by the GPU part of the core. Basically anything that GPU's excel at would be handled by the GPU segment and anything that the CPU excels at would be handled by the traditional CPU segment. making it more like a GPCPU or something. HBM has some pretty powerful potential. Especially if the GPU has access to with as well as the GPU in an APU. HSA FTW.

Last I checked, yes they can. I look at them like this: You have 8 students who have been split into 4 groups of 2 and each group has been given a task to complete. Say each group is supposed to create a story using images and cut out words from magazines. They have access to a stack of magazines per group and a set of markers, glue and crayons as well. Each student can work independently of each other to accomplish the task by splitting up the tasks. Example being that one student looks for pictures and cuts them out while the other student get the words. Each student is working all together on a large canvas split into 4 parts. While one student is cutting out the pictures, the other student could be gluing the words in place or using the markers and crayons. When the student getting the pictures is ready, they either have immediate access to the glue and markers/crayons or they need to wait a second for the other student to finish. then they swap places and tasks. in this way, each student is in fact working separately from the other to accomplish a task while sharing resources. AMD processors have been shown to be excellent at cryptography tasks which involve large amounts of number crunching and splitting tasks across cores to maximize cryptography computation.

Did you guys know that the plaintiff (Tony Dickey) is a natural person and citizen of the State of Alabama? Don't you find it odd that he is filing this lawsuit in the State of California and stating a bunch of California laws and statutes? You can read the entire lawsuit here: AMD Lawsuit I don't know if this kind of this is even kosher. Also the Lawsuit states that AMD is from Delaware yet, also states that the AMD HQ is in California? It can not be both from Delaware and California. If the company is a Delaware company, the HQ is in Delaware. Correct me if I am wrong of course but that is my understanding of how businesses and law. After reading through the lawsuit, I can deduce one thing. The guy went to Newegg, bought 2 FX 9590 CPUs, was not happy with the performance, and decided to sue to the tune of $5 million plus other fees and damages. He claims that AMD processors are priced unfairly high for what they are.......as if AMD processors were not priced low enough already. I want to know what the heck he was trying to use them for. Maybe he was trying to use them for Bitcoin? He also alludes to the idea that Intel's 8 core chips cost less than AMD's "8-core" chips by stating that AMD is unfairly pricing the chips. At least that is what I gather. Reading through the Lawsuit reads like a little kid screaming at the top of his lungs that his toy does not work like he thought it would or should etc. AMD Bulldozer uses CMT (Clustered Multi-Threading) instead of the SMT tech that intel uses. Two different methods of accomplishing a task. And to top it off, he requests a Trial by jury like it is a criminal case. If that is the case, and AMD is the defendant, then AMD must be considered innocent unless proven guilty in a court of Law.

Actually, i have. I am a network technician and work with Cisco routers and switches every day. Multiarea OSPF wont require a xeon processor or more than 4gb of RAM. Otherwise Cisco would put a xeon processor in the 3000 series enterprise backbone routers. Most high end Cisco routers are stacked routers. Some places even bypass a traditional router and instead use a Layer 3 Switch. I always advise against relying on a L3 switch instead of a router. i still stand by an intel Atom, AMD zecate, or VIA chip setup with up to 4GB of RAM. 8GB at the maximum for Overkill purposes.

It is a freaking ROUTER! not a SERVER. a ROUTER has no NEED for a XEON SERVER processor. Or have you never built a ROUTER before? I guarentee you that if a ROUTER required a XEON SERVER processor, CISCO would have all their routers using XEON processors. But they dont do they? Hak5 and Teksyndicate both made router videos. Both did the research. Both got it right. Plus, Linus never specified how much space he had in the rack. He just said he picked up a 1U rackmount chassis. Most likely for the small size which for a router would logically make sense since most CISCO routers are only 1U. But, CISCO has their router science down pat. They don't use SERVER processors in their routers. When I refer to CISCO I am not referrring to their Linksys line of routers. I am referring to the Enterprise grade routers. General idea of a router build: intel Atom or AMD E-series chip integrated onboard. dual gigabit NICs. Addon expansion card for additional ports if needed. such as 10GbE ports for additional connections to other routers on a network. At most 4GB of RAM. ECC is not necessary. if this was a NAS or File Server then ECC would make sense. if you can get a VIA board do it. If you can get an ARM board do it. if you use an Atom Dual core or AMD dual core integrated chip with passive cooling, you should have no problem fitting such a board in a 2U chassis. a 2U chassis supports a standard ATX PSU. As you would see if you followed the 3 links I provided. Hak5 does it right. they used an Atom CPU so get off your high horse.

Everything you do in this video makes me question your credibility. You put a $370 server chip in a router ..... WTF WHY? You did not check for compatiblity of parts. Here is what you should have done...... use a 2U/4U rackmount chassis since you want to rack mount it. (I would have just used a Mini-ITX case and called it a day) A 2U/4U chassis supports a standard ATX PSU, a Standard IO shield, proper airflow, any motherboard you wish to use. Costs roughly the same as the 1U chassis you got. And can still be rackmounted. Example: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BQY36DC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER Example: http://www.amazon.com/iStarUSA-Server-Chassis-Cases-D-214-MATX/dp/B00A7NBO6E/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&qid=1442138029&sr=8-21&keywords=2u+rackmount+chassis Example: http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Thickness-Rackmount-Chassis-RSV-L4412/dp/B00N9CXGSO/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1442137996&sr=8-17-spons&keywords=2u+rackmount+chassis You could have made it an interesting build if you built the router in something like the Coolermaster Elite 110 and then decided to DIY rackmount that case. You could have easily made do with a dual core Atom chip or one of the Quad/Octo core integrated chips.

Arma series .....cause you ain't Hardcore till you do.

Vulkan API will change how people perceive Linux Gaming. And to the person who claimed there is no alternative to Microsoft Office......shame on you. OpenOffice and LibreOffice. they are after all more famous and widely known than Apple's own office suite.

Wow, all the ArmA 3 haters have come out of the woodwork. Seriously what is it with you guys? I play ArmA 3 all day long at 1920x1200 at 50-60 FPS on Ultra settings with AA turned down but AF to the Max. For AA I am using the Intel CMAA which is great. I have an i7-4770k with an AMD Radeon HD 7970 Ghz edition card. 16GB of RAM at 1600Mhz. My screen is 27.5". How someone using the GTX 970 gets only 20 FPS is beyond me unless you are trying to go 4K/1440p or cranking your max view distance to the max. Plus, ArmA 3's engine is NOT pre-2007. ArmA 2, maybe but not ArmA 3. If you dont like the feel of ArmA dont play it. Go back to CoD or BF and leave the rest of us alone.

Im waiting for PlanetSide 2 on linux

slackware for gaming?

Best free Anti-Virus besides disconnecting from the Internet and turning off the machine? Run Linux instead of Windows.

Ditto on Linux Mint. Props for playing openTTD. Seriously SteamOS should include all the games from the Debian/GNU Repos to boost the number of games as well as to make it easier for people to play more linux games not found directly in the Steam Store. Perhaps add them to the F2P Steam Store section.

Steam reports that they have over 500 games on Linux now. Maybe they should bolster their games for Linux by including the games that show up in the Repos like Cube 2.

I usually point new users to Linux Mint since it is rather user friendly even if the main versions are based off of Ubuntu. Their Linux Mint Debian Edition is pretty good though.

I run Debian 7.4 x64. It rocks on my I3 lappy. I can play CS:Source and Half Life 2 or L4D2.

Hardline is essentially a $60 DLC for BF4 made by Visceral Games. They claim "new fangled weapons/items like grappling hooks, zip lines, gas masks, and tear gas".......hate to break to you EA/Visceral, those are not new, they were all in BF2 Special Forces. Not that the console gamers would know that. Totally not worth the money they want for it. Wont buy it unless it is on sale for ~$5-10.

I am curious how many people game on Linux? I game on both Windows and Linux and get a lot of guff for gaming on Linux.

Instead of buying a router, why not build one?