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Breaking my week-long silence here...
Your personal input in every article you post (the majority of them being anti-AMD) always bashes on AMD. You've admitted that you have a hatred towards them for personal reasons I don't know but it all just seems to be a petty vendetta. How are people gonna take you seriously?
A significant amount of your posts pretty much becomes a breeding ground for arguments/flamewars. I'm really looking forward to the day mods finally implement some new rules that address this sort of behaviour in the forums.

Why are some expecting this to cost less compared to the Fury x (or even Fury, wtf)? It is a full spec Fiji core, of course it will cost more than the Fury. By that logic, a small 980 should cost less than a 970! The BOM cost for the CM CLC I doubt is much more than R&D/production of a conventional heatpipe heatsinnk for a new PCB (can't recycle old design). What I mean is, I bet the cost of getting a Fury x out the door is similar to a Nano. The CLC is mostly "off the shelf" parts while the Nano heatsink is completely unique and designed from the ground up.
 
EVGA goes ahead and charges up to an extra $300 for a top binned 980ti, no problem there. AMD bins some full Fiji cores for certain characteristics, sells them for the same price as Fury x in a cute little package,  and that is crummy for some reason?
 
I thought all that mattered these days was perf/watt... now that AMD has likely narrowed the gap with their underclocked mini Fiji, no one seems to give a shit.
 
 
For sure, but I doubt that the Nano will run at as high of a voltage as Fury x and will probably have no voltage control available considering the singe 8pin and the marketing for the card revolving around efficiency and form factor.
 
At the end of the day, I just wish AMD allowed the AIBs to do whatever they want with Fiji. The OEM rebranding theme they started with the 295x2 is lame. We get less choice, and AMD's partners make less money. Give us a 3 slot air cooled full fat Fiji with 3 8 pins and unlocked voltage, give us more Nano-style cards... just let those companies do what they do! I'd be so pissed if I was Saphire or XFX right now; they only sell AMD cards and aren't even allowed to do anything but be re-distributors for cards they didn't design...

1 - Connectors not seated properly
2 - damaged or otherwise corrupted cables
3 - old cables (insulation gets crispy and will shatter if it is heated and cooled often)
4 - poor quality cables (yes they exist. Some manufacturers supply thinner copper wire then others. The known PSU brands are generally safe. But custom cables from other brands may not be)
5 - poor case airflow. Cables need cooling, even if within the limits
6 - irregular load. Electricity takes the path of least resistance. If one pin has jumped out of its holder in the connector, or if one wire is hotter then the rest due to being in contact with something, then electricity will move to the other wires instead.
7 - THEY OVERCLOCKED THE CARD
 
 
now... you are arguing with an electrician... cables are sort of my field of work. Calculating their capacity is the basis for my work... All electrical conductivity calculations, even factoring in these cables being bundled with 40 others, still place these wires used for the 295x2, within the operating limit of how much that card draws from the PSU....
 
As for your precious ATX standard. There is no limit..
the 20 amp pr rail limit was removed in 2007. And has NEVER been reintroduced. Manufacturers still stick to 20amp in general, as a rule of thumb. But there is no laws or standards stating THEY CANNOT.
This is why corsair, through its Corsair Link, allow you to increase your limit per port to the theoretical maximum THEIR cables can handle, which is 40 amps

phone slowing you down? want more ram? go to www.downloadmoreram.org and get the app on your phone

Maxwell supporting async compute, depending on how it works in practice, could be worse than saying the 970 has 4GB of video memory (the end - without any qualifications).
 
Why?  Because up to the 3.5 GB mark, the 970 performed as one might expect and people did not get hit hard for what was left unsaid about how the memory worked.   With Asynch compute, not being able to perform compute and general graphics tasks in parallel means that your cards don't use asynchronous compute in the ways that give the desired benefits.  That's a problem.  You can say that games that design their engines to utilize asynchronous  compute are being paid off by amd, but that's like saying any engine developer that actually makes use of a core dx12 feature is being paid off by a specific gpu company.  That is part of the god damn spec.  If nvidia cards can't deal with it as well, then they need to take their lumps just like amd did when dx11 cpu performance.
 
 
I've read that Unreal Engine 4 does not rely as heavily on asynch compute, in that case I very much do believe that part of the reason why is that they ARE sponsored up the ass by nvidia and gameworks tie ins, and if using the more modern style of rendering - asynch compute performs worse for nvidia, then they may as well not focus so heavily on that.  Stick to more serialized workloads, where their sugar daddy nvidia performs better.

That is such a small problem that I cannot believe you're complaining about it.
 
So because you have a hold a key, you wasted your money?
 
Wtf?

I heavily doubt that 80% of your audience own an Nvidia card. While it is probable that Nvidia card owners are more abundant over here, it wouldn't stretch to 80%. This is because people in this community are mostly PC Builders which make educated decisions with regards to purchasing their parts. Nvidia's 80% market share is aided by the fact that most prebuilt Dells and HPs have Nvidia GPUs preinstalled (GT 610 and GT 730 for example), and even within PC builders some buy parts without realizing their comparative performance and the general consensus in the public is that Nvidia GPUs are better across the board, so people seem to go with that. Over here I would guess the percentage is more in the 60-40 range though.
 
Not claiming any bias, just stressing the importance of making similar comparisons for AMD cards as well.

I heavily doubt that 80% of your audience own an Nvidia card. While it is probable that Nvidia card owners are more abundant over here, it wouldn't stretch to 80%. This is because people in this community are mostly PC Builders which make educated decisions with regards to purchasing their parts. Nvidia's 80% market share is aided by the fact that most prebuilt Dells and HPs have Nvidia GPUs preinstalled (GT 610 and GT 730 for example), and even within PC builders some buy parts without realizing their comparative performance and the general consensus in the public is that Nvidia GPUs are better across the board, so people seem to go with that. Over here I would guess the percentage is more in the 60-40 range though.
 
Not claiming any bias, just stressing the importance of making similar comparisons for AMD cards as well.

The user manual has a warning which specifically tells you inserting the S-Pen backwards could break things:

 
This probably means that the issue was indeed identified during testing. Now whether or not they make another revision of the phone that somehow blocks upside-down insertion is really anyone's guess.

With few exceptions. If I may, max settings makes little to no sense as certain settings in each game have massive penalties with little to no noticeable improvement.
With REASONABLE high/ultra settings you can expect a 970/390 to get around the 50-80 fps mark.
A 980 WILL basically always get 70-100 fps with the same settings.
Also popular fps and moba games are jokes for gpus and expect fps in the many hundreds (provided your cpu can handle it).

Since both AMD and Nvidia are moving towards 14/16nm manufacturing processes, is it a terrible time to get a GPU now since basically all modern GPUs are based on the aging 28nm node?
 
Basically, will the new GPUs offer massive performance games that it would be dumb to get a GPU now?

You just proved my point.

This actually reminded me I needed to throw this in a VM and test it out. It seems to run alright; however it seems extremely buggy: having to click drop downs multiple times or even click back and re-enter info again sometimes. I do like the look of it though.

Let me know how that goes for you.
 
Update: Like I said it is a beta and it shows in some places. For example, I am currently unable to connect a printer to the laptop I have this distro installed on, this is the error message:

It looks good, i downloaded it to try in a VM

Sometimes customer support can give you access to an account whose password you forgot if you supply them with a retail CD Key you used to activate a game, to prove that you are the owner.

To both of you.
Dab - that video is unrelated. The difference between a R7 240 and a R7 260X is worlds apart. We all know GPUs cannot be compared this way. Architecture, TMUs, ROPs, Shaders plays too much a role. The comparison you want to make isn't that simple, although i get what you want to say.
The G3258 is obviously hindered by its core count, thus it sucks at multi tasking. The i3 is fantastic at multi tasking - for the price that is. The Athlon 860k is a happy medium. Weaker cores, but more. So it can multitask better then the G3258, that we need not  discuss. But it will drag its feet in some cases (mainly single thread performance) compared to both the i3 and G3258. This is how it is. We need not discuss this.
 
There is shitloads of benchmarks to prove that the G3258 when OCd to kingdom come can perform well. We know this. We know it can match a i7 4790k in some games due to them only using 2 cores.
There is shitloads of benchmarks showing the Core i3 beating the APUs (cuz, for some reason, the APUs was more important to review then the CPU inside them) CPU vs CPU. We know this, nothing new here.
BUT there is also shitloads of reviews showing that if you pair the APUs/860k with a GTX 960 or lower, they perform pretty close to the i3 4130/4330.
 
Now, the APUs are priced, the same as the i3. So buying those over a i3 is stupid. The Athlon 860k is priced lower then the i3 and performs very close to the same.
 
We also know that most, like the wast wast majority of games bar Minecraft, is GPU bound more then CPU. So aslong as the CPU can get 60FPS, the ball is entirely in the court of the GPU. The Athlon 860k/APUs has been proven to be about 10-15% lower then the i3 4130/4330 in most benchmarks when both are using the same GPU (GTX 770/960/R9 285).
 
Buying cheaper, does not neccessarily mean buying worse in every case. The G3258 is one of those. Its dirt cheap, but it can be fast. I still do not reccomend it due to its poor multitasking abilities. One can say buying a FX 8320 is worse then a i3 4130 because the i3 does better in GAMES. But as soon as you let all those 8 "Cores" go to work, they both litterally and figurativly demolishes the i3 hands down. This is the difference between a multi core and dual core with HT. It is what it is. Games do not leverage this power, unfortunatly, but depending on use. AMDs offerings are far from worse.
 
Default Intel cooler is quiet for a i3, shit for a i7 4790k (i have a 4790k, so i know). Default AMD cooler is quiet for a mild OC 7850k. Its even quiet for a FX 8320. Yes it is. Ive had a FX 8320, i ran it with the stock cooler for a while, even managed to OC it before it got noisy (i am very sensitive to noise). But it was so noisy i decided to make it quiet, and thus i am using a 280mm radiator with Noctua NF-A14 PWM fans, with Low Noise Adaptors on them. Yes i hate noise THAT bad.
The AMD stock cooler is actually good, it really is and you should not make fun of it because it actually performs well (FX/A10 7870k cooler is really good. The one that comes with the A10 7850k is a little bit meh, but still OK)
 
You say any setup has a equal intel offering. Are we talking a equal performing or equal price?
Because if i asked you to make a sub 350 USD setup, with case, CPU/APU, mobo, ram, HDD and a reputable 80+ bronze PSU. What kind of performance would you get with intel? Uhm, shit performance. An AMD APU would wreck any setup you could make for the same price.
 
Any Intel setup you can make up until 550 USD, AMD can match. Beyond 550 USD, there is nothing that AMD has, that makes sense price to performance wise. PERIOD.
Unless you want to make a super budget server/rendering rig. In which case a FX 8350 wouldnt be half bad. But that is the exception, not the rule.

Point #4 isn't a big deal (I myself run a GTX 970 on an H81 board with PCIE-2.0x16), but PCIE-3.0x16 vs PCIE-2.0x16 actually does make a 10% difference in Ryse Son of Rome at 1080p with a 980 (techpowerup benched it in their PCIE scaling article). But for the vast majority of games it's like 0.5% difference.

The fucking card is not even out yet! How are you gonna deal when people in the forum start buying it? you're gonna shit all over their builds and be completely useless? Some people like new stuff, some people don't have the extra cash, but they all have one thing in common, they don't have to justify their purchases, not to you, and while we're at it, how's saying 'might as well get a console' an insult to you? why do you give a fuck. If someone is happy with their PS4, let it be! fuck...

Installing something like ubuntu is no harder than installing windows. Nor is updating it and using it. I got multiple non-techies to use it on their outdated or simply slow machines and they haven't had any real problems with it. In exchange their computers got usable again whereas windows 7 would eat their measly ram quantities for breakfast and feast on the corpse of their 32-bit cpus.

funny yours looks almost identical to mine

Because Microsoft has no choice. Companies won't upgrade to it if they don't have control. Simple as that.Companies is what really is most of Microsoft revenue and marketshare, as they have great number of computers.
 
 
As discussed inside, the moronic, unfounded, without a specs of any proof what's so ever, comes with possibilities scenarios that is not the reality. Just some Linux or Apple fanboy who is pissed off that Windows 10 is getting his attention and not his favorite OS.
Anyone can do the same: Android, iOS, MacOS can be potential malware and virus delivery system!
Hackers can hack the update servers to send fake OS updates to people with malware and viruses.
Can it happen? Sure, anything is possible. Has is happened since the day the Internet was born. No.
The chances that this of happening is slim to none.

Am i?
If you buy a sports car today, and lose to a sports car of a few years back in a race. Would you just go "well they missed the point with that old one cuz my SPORTS CAR isnt about performance at all it is about being new".
No... no you would not. You would regret that purchase dearly if you knew you could afford the other option.
Why can i say that? Because being dis-illusioned sucks, been there, done that. Once you realize you would be better off with the older version, then you really regret not buying it twice.
Point in case.. Sonys old PS3 wireless headset was fantastic. Their new one for PS4, which was supposed to be an upgrade from their original... Its worse then even the worst movie sequel joke ive heard... Blew 100 USD on a less the OK headset on the promise of it being same as the old, just fixing all the bad stuff...
If something works, dont try fix it.
If it is old, still works, but can be improved upon, do it.
We know what pitcairn can do. We know what to expect. We know AMD wont fuck us over with abyssmal performance due to drivers like Nvidia recently did with the 700 series.
Why wont AMD do that? Because they know even their own fans isnt so blind they would let it slide, nor would the Nvidia fans. They cannot fuck up like that.

Errr what?
 
A 7870 (GHz or non) was Pitcairn, which was GCN 1.0 (As @marldorthegreat points out). It was also 28 nm, with 1280 Stream Processors.
 
A 6970 was 40 nm, pre GCN architecture, and had 1536 stream processors.
 
Please check your facts before jumping on the "I hate AMD" bandwagon.
 
A 370x might be a rebrand that is several generations old, but it's definitely not related to a 6970 in any way, shape, or form, besides the "AMD" badge on the side.

Why are we still arguing about f***ing names? The name is just representative for the tier that a card belongs to. People might be fooled by specs..like GT 730 4GB WOW, but names?
 
I think AMD was right to rename the cards and go to 3xx series. Here's why:
In the 2xx series we had... 240, 250, 250x, 260, 260x, 270, 270x, 280, 280x, 290, 290x, 295x2...see the pattern?
The "new GPUs" deliver, and they are clearly doing better than their predecessors.
 
So Imagine what would've been if AMD stuck with the 200 names.
Something like 270XT(370), 280XT(380),290XT(390),290XXT(390X) would have created such a confusion among users...