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16 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

OC and ITX are not somethings that work well together in most situations.

Depending on the Case, its not the best idea as you might be limited to small form factor heatsinks like NH-L9a, if you're lucky you can use an NH-L9x65 or even the NH-L12.

Did you also reply to the other post and for some reason it posted it as my own topic? So confused as to what's going on here.

Interested to see what the speed/timing/voltages people are running on their B die RAM on Ryzen?

What do people consider safe voltages for benching and 24/7 safe?

The picture below is the current timings I'm running at 1.41v but hoping to get the voltage a bit lower by relaxing a couple of the timings.

I can also get 3600mhz 14-15-14-28 but slightly looser sub timings at 1.46v but not sure if the extra voltage is worth the voltage.

I run a Asus B450i with a 2600X. My Bench mark settings it will do an all core 4.25ghz at 1.46v and RAM at 3600mhz 14-15-14-28 at 1.46v with tight sub timings. Everyday settings though I run an all core 4.15ghz at 1.388v and RAM 3200mhz 14-14-14-28 at 1.365v. I also have my VRM settings maxed out minus the switching frequency for a bit more RAM stability I have it at 400. Most amperage I've pulled though the VRM is about 70A and considering each stage is 30A I'd say I'd have a ton of headroom. Also the SOC is only a single phase and the main reason Buildzoid doesn't like it but the SOC is a IR3555 60A stage and even with 3600mhz RAM I only use 1.1v and it see's about 8A. In saying that though a 2200G or 2400G would cook this board and highly not recommended. 

On 7/24/2017 at 3:30 PM, Q13E5 said:

So i decided on getting a 2K 165Hz monitor with around 1-3ms of lagtime.

 

I has decided on most likely getting this ASUS  PG278QR 27" 2560x1440 1ms 165Hz G-SYNC Gaming Monitor. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4ENDXR/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=IN4VO5HBLW4BR&colid=2UYCWAJ1MPV95

for $649.99 & FREE Shipping.

 

The GPUs i own driving the monitor that I'm planning on getting are: 2 GTX 980s EVGA2.0 cards using a HB Sli bridge.

I plan on using an Displayport cord and Overclocking the monitor to 170Hz using NVIDIA's custom resolution software.

 

The Questions i has is, whats the highest overclock anyone was able to get on this monitor safely?

Is this moniter a good choice and why.

Criticism accepted.

The Acer XB271HUA is a  1ms TN 1440p monitor with 144hz oc to 165hz and G Sync. I just bought the AOC AG271QG it's the same specs and price but IPS and 4ms response time. An extra 3ms response time is nothing and the gains of IPS are well worth. No one can tell the difference anyway. If you are spending that much money why buy old outdated tech, new TN panels are okay but they are horrible compared to even a bad IPS for colour.

On 7/24/2017 at 3:36 PM, DocSwag said:

Just FYI but the Dell S2716DG is a 144 hz monitor and usually costs like $100 less. You may want to consider it instead.

 

Also, you can't use an HB SLI bridge on 980s. That only works on Pascal.

Yes you can but they have barely any noticeable gains through almost all games. I run MSI 980s with an MSI HB bridge and it works fine just don't expect extra performance only better visuals.

So I just bought a AOC AG271QG 165hz G Sync monitor and I'm having an issue when my second display a non G Sync 49" 4K TV is plugged in. The G Sync doesn't seem to work on the AOC and I can't select select it in the Nvidia control panel. I know it should work a long as I have the games I'm playing in full screen or windowed full screen but I'm getting tearing. This completely disappears if I have only the AOC plugged in. I'm not expecting the 4k TV to work with G Sync or anything dumb like that as it's for web browsing and movies but I don't want to have to unplug it every time I want to play a game.

I have looked up countless Youtube and webpage tutorials but most of them are old as and don't have all the latest G Sync updates in them.

Please help I need G Sync for the mess that is PUBG and it's lack of SLI support...

6 minutes ago, Alec M said:

I'm glad to hear you're not doing it the sketchy way

 

(Though sketchy isn't always bad)

Yeah it's my first de-lid so I would rather spend the few extra dollars and have the right tools that have been proven to work.

4 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Between the die and the IHS, it's better to use a form on liquid metal to replace the wallpaper paste Intel tends to use. 

Yeah that's what I thought. Just wondering if it's worth doing it on the GPUs as well or normal paste would do?

2 minutes ago, Alec M said:

Delidding is extremely sketchy without proper equipment, though it can be done with Exacto knives: 

 

Yeah I bought a Rockit 88 and Re-Lid Kit, I'm not messing around with razors, vises or anything like that.

Looking for recommendations.

I'm about to pull my PC down and while I'm there I want to delid my 4670k cooled by a Fractal S36 AIO and replace the thermal compound on my MSI Gaming 980s in SLI

I'm looking at either the Thermal Grizzly pastes Conductonaut and Kyronuat or possibly getting both.

I want something that is going to last a long time especially between the CPU and the heat spreader. It seems like the Conductonaut is the best one for this from what I have seen as it's got insane thermal conductivity, but not really sure. Not sure if I'd want to use it between the spreader and CPU cooler heatsink as it's supposed to be horrible to get off. I'd also use it on the GPUs as they won't ever come apart again.

Would using the Kryonaut yeild the same thermals or within margin of error if I just used it on all of it?

Depending on results of the 4670k I may delid my 4790k but I want to use it as a test

15 minutes ago, Majestic said:

As someone with the same CPU, saying it's 2017 standard is only fooling yourself.

 

Also, you made a buildlog for applying an OC on your hardware? 

Yeah the CPU is definitely lacking but all I do it gaming and with 4.2ghz it keeps up fine unless the game is poorly optimized and I barely have that issue anymore. I have a 4790k coming in a few weeks, a fella I met is upgrading and I'm buying his chip. I was more meaning bringing my rig up to visual standards for 2017 but it still holds it's own in gaming.

Nah I haven't made a build log. Too be honest 4.2ghz isthe absolute max my chip will do no matter what settings or volts I push through it. I dialed in some custom settings and it runs absolutely stable at 1.201v, when I tried to go higher I had to hard reset the BIOS as it wouldn't even load. Then I just used the 4.2 auto overclock settings and set the volts as the motherboard wanted to run 1.35v plus for 4.2ghz and it's just as stable so I'm not worried about it. Also the GPUs were easy on Afterburner I literally turned them up to +172 on the core, +500 on the memory, 122% power, 83c temp limit, stock volts and a custom fan profile. The GPUs might have more in them I'm not sure as I haven't tried as all I wanted was to hit 1500mhz and call it there seeing I'm on air, but seeing they are Maxwell based GPUs I highly doubt they will do better than 1500 as that seems like good numbers for them.

I also have Speed fan controlling the case and CPU fans as they wouldn't spin up with high temps on the GPUs and now all that runs in the background and no throttling. I get mid 50s on the CPU with near silent fan profiles and the top GPU will hit mid 70s but at near full speed on all the fans.

So I recently gave my old Z87 a breath of fresh air and brought it up to 2017 standards.

The 4670k is OC to 4.2ghz at 1.2v and the 980s running at 1501mhz on their cores and 4000mhz on the memory.

The pcpartpicker link is on my profile if you want specs on the full build.

17 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

Lets start by saying that your mobo isn't really PWM friendly. Only CPU_FAN has true PWM controls. Other headers only support DC controls, except SYS_FAN4 which isn' controllable. Besides that, Gigabytes own software is pure crap. Profiles for CPU_FAN work somewhat well, but you can't do any more specific curve controlling.

 

So only option for that is Speedfan. With it you need to select correct controlling chip from settings, and leave controls from BIOS to auto. Here's my very crude take on how to do setup

This is how I did it on same chipset mobo that you have, UD3H and later with D3H. Speedfan can control DC fans while Gigabytes own software really can't.

I ended up getting it sorted out through Speedfan. Not sure exactly what I changed but it started to work when I played with a few settings. Now I have Task Schedular start Speedfan at startup and everything works perfectly. Thanks

1 minute ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

U can't get windows ten ket for about 30 on kinguin  

Nice, thanks. Is that just like another G2A style site?

I already have a copy of windows 10 but I'm undecided if I want to leave it on my current CPU and SSD and put it in the living room in a m-ITX setup I have in the living room.

20 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

GTA v I hover around the 110 mark with ultra settings 

my 4790k hovered around 80 

 

this is actual gameplay not benchmark 

mark so it's just a beast in everything

 

Game devs are using more than 4 threads becaus when I built my 4790k system everyone was saying how much of a wasted it was over the i5 lol 

boy were they wrong 

and now games are using more and more threads it's just a fact  

Yeah definitely can't complain with those numbers. I'll have a look some more at the 1600 reviews and do some numbers. 

So far this is what I'm looking at. I really want the Flare X ram but with this case I have compatibility issue hitting the H100i with anything other than low profile ram. I am going to make sure this is the go and there isn't a work around to get the Flare X in there while still having the AIO up the top. Half the reason I went the ROG board is it has the CPU and ram in a lower spot than 95% of the other board out there and it's going to give me the most chance of fitting them in there.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7fZrf8

5 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

As far as shooters go I get locked 300 fps in overwatch

Yeah shooters I'm not worried at all about, it's the GTA V, Metro LL, Fallout 4 with 30 odd mods and stuff that will actually stress the GPUs a bit more but that's mostly GPU related

12 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

The 1700 will perform the same in games so it's up to you if u want the cores or a 1600 with a better board or gskill ram or just keep the money to buy games

i was going to get the 1700 too I'm glad I got the better board but it depends on your budget 

I have already budgeted about $2000aud for the tower minus GPUs and SSDs as I already have them, I don't want to go to crazy top end but I want to build something nice and looks as good as it goes. Last thing I need is more games haha I already have 170 odd in my Steam and Origin.

9 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

For 60Hz pretty much any of them.

 

If you almost only game, go with the 1600 (even a quad-core if on a budget, but the six-core are probably the sweet spot otherwise). Going 8-core will make you pay more money for no real benefit in only gaming (not one that justifies a $100+ difference anyway).

Yeah I just plan to keep it for a few years so I'd rather go overkill, I'm still under budget with the 1700 from what I wanted to spend. Like I said above I'm not going to run out any buy a 1700 tomorrow it's probably a week or two pays off having enough for everything and I'm going to keep looking at more reviews and follow AMD updates on any gains. I also want to upgrade my 1080p screen for shooters to a 1440p 144hz once they come down in price but for now I'm loving the 4k and happy playing RPGs and non multiplayer games.

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

The R7 1700 probably is the best pick, 1800x if you have the $ for it though unnecessary.

1700 seems like the pick of the R7 line up to me as I plan to overclock so there will be little to no mhz gains from the X and the temp offset would bug me as the fan profiles would ramp up unnecessarily when there is only light load on the CPU. 1700 has good value for the same or nearly the same performance if you OC it

16 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Great  I get excited by system building in general  Benefit of getting the crosshair you can follow the guide in my sig exactly  

I did open and that and will have a good read. Thanks

7 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

It will piss 60 fps 4K even a fx chipwould do 60fps 4K 

 

i have mine at 4 Ghz and 2933 on the memory and it's like 5 percent behind the 7700k in gaming 

 

it's a monster of a CPU 

That's what I want to hear. Ryzen seems like a awesome chip all round 

7 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

The thing is that you could always upgrade the cpu later as they are keeping the same socket. I would go for the 1600 for just games. 

That is true but the likeliness I will buy another CPU in the next 3 to 4 years is slim and the 8 core seems to have a better chance of lasting that long. $100 odd dollars now isn't that big of a increase in my budget and it could be handy in the future if I change plans. I will keep looking a reviews and benchmarks and won't rule the 1600 out.

10 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Well I'm running 980tis in sli at 1440p 144hz

and it's easily on par with my 4790k at 4.8

so f gaming Is your main focus then the 1600 is a frekin beast

 

That is pretty impressive and I'll be over the moon if I can get fairly stable 60fps at 4k with the build. I have been looking at upgrading to a 1440p 144hz G sync screen for FPS and MOBAs when they come down a bit in price.

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

There is a hard voltage wall around 4GHz. I can comfortably do 4GHz on my 1700 but 4.1 no chance. It is true to an extent for even 1800Xs 23% can reach 4.1GHz this is why I discourage people from buying an X model when you can just overclock it yourself as the X is essentially a factory overclock. $200 price increase for a 23% chance of 100MHz is crazy bad value imo. So am I happy with my 4GHz 1700 on my crosshair mobo? Yes I am, very  Also let me run at 2933Mhz on the RAM right away, which is still hit and miss for other boards.

Yeah like I said not worried even if I get 3.9 it will still be a great chip compared to a 4670k that also maxes out at 4ghz. Yeah the price difference as well as the fan profile for what ever those X series have with the 20c offset have been major turn offs. I'm excited to build a Ryzen system.

Just now, tom_w141 said:

@Cyndre1033 Most PSUs have this? Mine did and I didn't change it. Also the 2nd connector is for overclock stability if you run stock its not required

I plan to overclock so the header will most likely be needed and the PSU has 2x 8pin connectors. If I hit the lotto and get a chip that can hit 4.1 or 4.2ghz I sure as hell will run it at that but I'm a realist and the chances a 1700 getting over 4ghz are super slim and my luck in the silicone lottery so far has been dismal for GPU and CPUs.

5 minutes ago, Cyndre1033 said:

R7 1700

Edit: watch out for the Crosshair board, you need a PSU that supports two CPU power connections

Yeah I was leaning towards the 1700 but a few people have said to me the 1600 would be fine for what I need but I don't want buy it without asking peoples opinions on the matter

Also aware of this but thank you very much for the warning, I'll be using a HX1000i so it operates silently until the system sees over 400w power consumption and it has all the connections I could ever need.

9 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

I would go with 1700 for your build. You can never have too many cores

Thanks, more cores does sound better 

17 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

The NH-L9i is plenty especially if you undervolt. The stock cooler should also be enough if you plan to use that instead.

A 150w psu is plenty for that.

Whether it's worth doing or not is up to you. I personally don't mind having spare systems lying around.

Yeah I was hoping it would be fine, everything seemed like it would but the last thing I want to do is burn down my house lol.

Stock cooler is long gone and aftermarket options are cheap enough.

Seems worth doing, a NUC would cost me more anyway with less uses and at least it won't go to waste like my old systems.

2 hours ago, oriol said:

You should be fine if you disable turbo and don't go for continuous high loads: http://noctua.at/en/nh_l9i_tdp_guidelines

Yeah I will definitely disable and it will barely see anything more than streaming 4k content or web browsing

Thanks 

So I'm about to upgrade my computer and I want to get a Ryzen but so far I'm torn on a R5 1600 or R7 1700 build. Either will be overclocked to 4ghz or as high as it will go and paired with 3200mhz Flare X on a Crosshair VI.

I almost only game but I'm interested in a Ryzen build. I'm not an AMD fanboy, my last 3 systems have been Intel. The last of which is my current 4670k but I feel it's time for an upgrade and I want something different.

I already have a 980 and I found a cheap secondhand card. I see no point in upgrading them anytime soon as they are great GPUs and I want a CPU that will compliment them. I know games become more GPU bound at higher resolution so the Ryzen and 980s should be fine for a few more generations.

Games played are things like Fallout 4, Battlefield, Doom, Wolfenstein, Tomb Raider, MGS V, Metro and Bioshock remakes. I have a good 1080p screen for games like Overwatch, LoL, CS-GO and other games not great for 4k.

Will the 1600 be enough or just go for the 1700?  Both are in my price range but I want it to last as I normally upgrade every 3 or 4 years.