Dragontail

Well to be fair, this wont get much traction anyway. It is like always, if the censorship does not affect people personally they don give two cents about it. Until it is to late that is :)! Human nature in a nutshell, just look back at history and we are doomed to make the same mistakes that our forfathers did and them before.
 
But it wil be fine, we are just gonna have another 100 years of censorship because that make everyone happy, or?

Well to be fair, this wont get much traction anyway. It is like always, if the censorship does not affect people personally they don give two cents about it. Until it is to late that is :)! Human nature in a nutshell, just look back at history and we are doomed to make the same mistakes that our forfathers did and them before.
 
But it wil be fine, we are just gonna have another 100 years of censorship because that make everyone happy, or?

Well to be fair, this wont get much traction anyway. It is like always, if the censorship does not affect people personally they don give two cents about it. Until it is to late that is :)! Human nature in a nutshell, just look back at history and we are doomed to make the same mistakes that our forfathers did and them before.
 
But it wil be fine, we are just gonna have another 100 years of censorship because that make everyone happy, or?

Well to be fair, this wont get much traction anyway. It is like always, if the censorship does not affect people personally they don give two cents about it. Until it is to late that is :)! Human nature in a nutshell, just look back at history and we are doomed to make the same mistakes that our forfathers did and them before.
 
But it wil be fine, we are just gonna have another 100 years of censorship because that make everyone happy, or?

your being very dense about it, the huge fucking difference here is that its almost certain you can remove it, the days of shit being buried deep into windows so you can't remove it are over, at least when it comes to microsoft programs, yes this is about a third party, but its ms putting it there, not king themselves via a deal with a OEM, this isn't freaking tangent
 
also i'm sure the people you say are pro of it, they actually aren't, they are being knowledgeable that with the predecessor of this version of windows, 8, apps can be removed with a single click, ALL OF IT!!!!, nothing gets left in the system, no junk or useless registry entries, the only thing left are used generated files saved in the user folder, freaking nothing is left, those people know that and they are just saying this isn't a big of enough deal to raise the freaking pitchfork and burn ms to the ground were you and others seem to thinks so, now if this was uninstalable i wouldn't even discuss it and agree with you but this is not the case, and its very but very far from being that way

Well I for one cant stand apps lying around I dont use that cries for updates all the time, same as in android phone and such. Give me a payed option so I can atleast get rid of the pieace of crap that they install for no apperent reason.

Well I for one cant stand apps lying around I dont use that cries for updates all the time, same as in android phone and such. Give me a payed option so I can atleast get rid of the pieace of crap that they install for no apperent reason.

Well I wont be upgrading to Windows 10 any time soon, even though it seems like a hell of a OS.
 
 
Have you ever tried uninstallting anything on an android phone from samsung/sony/whatever, its full of crap noone ever uses and all it does is cry for upgrades and to have access to your entire phone, I bet when this hits Candy Crush will be able to: Read all your data on the harddrive, get your location, send notifications to King and MS, send "annonymous data" to whatever third party paid MS or King for it. This even before you have installed Windows 10 completely. When I install an OS I expect a clean OS with minimal programs so I can choose what to install and when. Windows 8 was borderline(still using indows 7) if you ask me with all the shit that got pre-installed.
 
That is why I want a payed option with NOTHING installed except the OS and a webbrowser, rest I can fix on my own. Sure I know I might be a minority on this, but being a IT-professional its scary to see people dont care anything about where their data gets uploaded to.
 
What if MS decides that you cannot uninstall it, what then? Your computer will be just like your phone, full of crap you will never use, but its still there using resources and uploading data......
 

Well I for one cant stand apps lying around I dont use that cries for updates all the time, same as in android phone and such. Give me a payed option so I can atleast get rid of the pieace of crap that they install for no apperent reason.

My first Pentium 3 was a beast, overclocked that thing to 550 mhz(from 300 mind you) got it stable for about a week then it burned and took my VGA/mobo/ram with it :D those were the days!!

My first Pentium 3 was a beast, overclocked that thing to 550 mhz(from 300 mind you) got it stable for about a week then it burned and took my VGA/mobo/ram with it :D those were the days!!

My first Pentium 3 was a beast, overclocked that thing to 550 mhz(from 300 mind you) got it stable for about a week then it burned and took my VGA/mobo/ram with it :D those were the days!!

Yepp, good changes are always good. Now to put an option to switch between having a full size start screen and an start menu and 8 is UI wise complete!

Yepp, good changes are always good. Now to put an option to switch between having a full size start screen and an start menu and 8 is UI wise complete!

Yepp, good changes are always good. Now to put an option to switch between having a full size start screen and an start menu and 8 is UI wise complete!

Yepp, good changes are always good. Now to put an option to switch between having a full size start screen and an start menu and 8 is UI wise complete!

Yepp, good changes are always good. Now to put an option to switch between having a full size start screen and an start menu and 8 is UI wise complete!

Yepp, good changes are always good. Now to put an option to switch between having a full size start screen and an start menu and 8 is UI wise complete!

I snctahed 2x280x for cheap and they have almost payed for themselves in less than 20 days me happy!

My first Pentium 3 was a beast, overclocked that thing to 550 mhz(from 300 mind you) got it stable for about a week then it burned and took my VGA/mobo/ram with it :D those were the days!!

Ok I am assuming you either have a cablemodem/router(with coaxial connection) or a DSL modem/router which you have bridged. How it works is that the modem just translates the DSL/coaxial signal into ethernet frames and nothing else thus you get an IP from your ISP. If or when the power to the modem breaks it restarts the adjency with your ISP usually takes about 30 sec to a minute before it can establish it again due to the distance, latency and the syn/ack process.
 
I think what is happening is that your router restarts faster than your modem can establish a connection with the ISP thus giving the router a failsafe private IP(dont know why this even exsists, but oh well). There is no way around this than to release the IP and renew it when the adjency from the modem to the ISP is reestablished, hope this answer was to some help.
 
//D-tail

time and time again, people try to reference "futureproofing" with computer hardware, but to no avail. There are no such thing as futureproofing a computer it will fail in some point in time because there will be features that will start to surface and the hardware you spent lots of money on wont have.
If you can play YOUR games now fine, then dont upgrade. Just do it whenever you see your computer dont perform to your satisfactory, its all personal preferences and a subjective argument, but its the only truth you can play around when buying computer hardware.
 
my two cents.
 
//D-tail

time and time again, people try to reference "futureproofing" with computer hardware, but to no avail. There are no such thing as futureproofing a computer it will fail in some point in time because there will be features that will start to surface and the hardware you spent lots of money on wont have.
If you can play YOUR games now fine, then dont upgrade. Just do it whenever you see your computer dont perform to your satisfactory, its all personal preferences and a subjective argument, but its the only truth you can play around when buying computer hardware.
 
my two cents.
 
//D-tail

time and time again, people try to reference "futureproofing" with computer hardware, but to no avail. There are no such thing as futureproofing a computer it will fail in some point in time because there will be features that will start to surface and the hardware you spent lots of money on wont have.
If you can play YOUR games now fine, then dont upgrade. Just do it whenever you see your computer dont perform to your satisfactory, its all personal preferences and a subjective argument, but its the only truth you can play around when buying computer hardware.
 
my two cents.
 
//D-tail

Having a 1Gbit up and downstream with a 10Gbit backbone I think I am really lucky at my Uiniversity :) The bottleneck we have are the harddrives :/