Pedro Henrique

Update: power meter arrived tonight, i tested it for roughly 2 hours, did some of my usual stuff it stayed under 150w peak, then i ran a benchmark on CIV 6 - Gathering the Storm and it's showing only 230W (+-2%). I will see if i have more time during this week to do some editing and rendering and test if the peak consumption is any higher with those other tasks.

Your signature was not lying hahaha, i almost replied before seeing your edit earlier. I found an equivalent device here, should be arriving tomorrow so i can run some proper testing. Yeah, i'm aware. My reasoning was that if my PSU is capable of providing 850W, an UPS designed for 850W would guarantee to solve my issue. I do plan on getting in the future (albeit not anytime soon) a much better graphic card and processor, which is why i wanted to get more than i would need right now, and now i realize that even if i upgrade to an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D (105W) and an Nvidia Geforce RTX 3080 (400W), that would be an estimated 505W, which is still less than 850W so i definitely understand your point now. I'm curious to see what my current setup is actually consuming once the power meter arrives. My understanding from my superficial search was that the digital controller from the UPS would "fight" the digital controller from the PSU, each trying to keep the electric circuit aligned to it's own parameters. But honestly i have no clue if that is the actual reason. I can see that, specially considering if going back a couple decades PSUs were missing improvements that we have today and still people used them. Sounds like a good rule of thumb. In my previous search i did encounter many sellers who don't even mention a Watts rating, i was completely ignoring those, so good to hear i did right. Seems like i can find that brand around here. I will look into them and other alternatives. I did not find any info from the manufacturer on what is the response time of my PSU (Seasonic FOCUS GM), searching i did not find anything reliable either. I might have to contact Seasonic support for that.

I'm also interested in knowing what model @manikyath is using.

Regarding max power draw at outlet, considering the PSU is 80Plus Gold and it is capable of delivering 850 Watts does that not mean it consumes somewhere around 1062.5VA when connected directly to the outlet (minimum of 80% efficiency)? I don't have a way of measuring it. Most consumer grade UPS i could find were 1200VA or 1500VA with a power factor of 0.5, so 600W or 750W respectively. So i'm looking for suggestions of UPS capable of delivering 850W, that is the most i will ever need with my current PSU. I might want to connect my monitor but it would only consume 16W from what i checked. Well the seller themselves gave the information about the "incompatibility" but i can see it not being a common thing since only one seller mentioned that about their UPS. The response time is something i did not consider, thank you! I will make sure to check both response time, and time without power, before buying an UPS.

Hey everyone, I've done some research and searching on my own and either found UPS that didn't not match the specs or were enterprise grade and thus super expensive, so i came here looking for suggestions you guys may have. Also found some content about how interative No Breaks (UPS) don't get along very well with some PSUs (more specifically the ones with APFC) and i'm not sure whether if that would affect my Seasonic FOCUS GM (PN SSR-850FM). The goal is that during power outages or instabilities i get enough time to save any files/games and turn off my devices and that during regular power situations using my computer remains unaffected and safe. My GPU is: GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X My CPU is: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 XT (I know a 850FM was probably overkill, i got it bc it was cheaper than lower wattages) Your help will be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance.

Yeah it is working fine as far as i know. I'm not sure what the deal is with people who saying it does not work, but i understand there must be a reason why manufacters sell kits. What i did do was making sure the part number i bought was marked as compatible in the motherboard page, there were some part numbers of that same RAM model that were not listed as compatible (as i understand not being listed means the manufacturer did not test if it works well, but it could work but they dont guarantee it).

I did get the exact same model, no issues so far and the XMP profile seems to be working fine.

Thanks for all the answers and the help, the only thing that was missing was a cpu cooler suggestion (although i get the budget for that was too small) i will deal with it in the future if heat becomes a problem. PC is built and working perfectly.

Well Crunchyroll does allow you to enforce a resolution (at least on desktop and android, i have not tested with other devices) although if your connection is too slow it may interrupt the video. Yeah i also wish Netflix allowed that too. Regading the youtube channel, i also don't see it changing much outside of Japan considering licenses. Personally i rarely re-watch content older than 5 years and am mostly looking to watch the more recent releases. On a side note, it will be nice to be able to watch anime at faster or slower reproduction speed thanks to youtube's feature.

Thanks for info, it will take a couple more weeks until all parts arrive so i can actually confirm if there was an issue or not. I did make sure to get the exact same model and also made sure the model is compatible with the B550 Tomahawk according to the motherboard's list of compatibility for RAMs. Now the only thing missing is potentially an cpu cooler, i wonder how well the stock cooler will perform, the case seems to have good airflow. I did do some research and most articles and videos i found say an aftermarket cooler is better, specially for overclock, i did find some saying you can be just fine with the stock cooler as long as you don't overclock and some even recommended "undervoltaging".

I could only find dual kits of 2666Hz 8GB, could not find for 3200Hz. Does you or someone know how big of impact it is using multiple single rams vs dual kits?

The 3600XT has bad value then? Between them it was a ARS$8000 (about USD$53) difference, the benchmarks i could find made it look like it was much better than the 3600. The only reason i didn't go with AMD GPU was because of NVENC for OBS, with a 3600 i could have gotten an RX5700 ($54990) for sure, an RX5700XT would be out of the budget. Thanks for the thoughts on the NVME SSD. Would a 550w be enough for a 2060 or RX5600? I could only get my hand on an 850w one which is even more, but i wanted a 750w to make sure i could upgrade the GPU later if needed. the other options were all on the lower tiers of the PSU Tier (Thermaltake White 80+, Corsair CV, Aerocool Cylon), so i tried to avoid them since the price difference was about ARS$5000 (about USD$33). Thanks for the tip on Windows 10, i will still be using my previous PC so i can't use that one, but i will get a cheaper option elsewhere.

Hey there, this is my first post here and i have read and watched a lot of stuff around here while doing my research for building my own PC. Here is a quick summary and further down will be all the details. -This will be the first time i build one myself and it is also my first desktop. All the details about my build and general needs are below, i already got most of the parts but due to price changes my original budget for CPU Cooler and Storage is not as good as i originally thought. -So now i am looking for suggestions regarding CPU Stock Cooler vs Other Coolers and if an ADATA XPG SPECTRIX S40G RGB 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME SSD and an Aerocool Cylon 4 52.5 CFM CPU Cooler (ARS$10.000 or USD$66) are good choices for my needs or if there are better options for the same price range. I'm also worried if the M.2 will actually end up being detrimental when compared to regular SSD, considering the things i need to do as detailed later on. -There are not many options around here but i will do my best to find the parts you suggest if these are not good enough. I like RGBs but i choose those mostly because it will be easier to sell the PC later on if i need to upgrade again earlier than i think. - I think the PSU was a bit of overkill, feedback on if it will actually be harmful to the PC is welcome. - Tips regarding building this particular build are welcome. Budget (including currency): ARS$170.000 Total (or USD$1130 with import taxes included, conversion rate is at most ARS$150 per USD$1 considering all general taxes and import tariffs so something that is USD$10 will generally cost me at most ARS$1500) Country: Argentina Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games: Civilization VI, Kingdom Come Deliverance, XCOM 2, Stellaris, Europa Universalis IV, TableTop Simulator, League of Legends and many indie games and non AAA titles. Would be nice to know if it would be able to handle any of the more recent AAA titles though. Programs and Workloads: Clip Art Studio Pro (for making and editing art with a Wacom Drawing Tablet), Adobe Photoshop (light photo editing for now), OBS Studio (for streaming and recording at 1080p), planning to learn and do video and audio editing; MicrosoftOffice365 and regular light stuff as well. Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I am upgrading from my 5 years old notebook Lenovo Y50-70 15,6'(1920x1080): Intel Core i7-4720HQ 2.6GHz 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 SODDIM Ram Nvidia Geforce GTX 960M (recently broke) SSD WD Blue 500 GB (originally had an 1TB - 16 GB SSHD); As for peripherals, i'm not looking for new ones but i will give you the information in case it is relevant: right now i already have a basic wireless mouse and keyboard, a genius headset (cavimanus hs-g700v) and a Blue Yeti Pro microphone, all USB. For the monitor i will be using a 31' Full HD TV until i can buy a 1080p 60Hz 24' or smaller monitor. As for planning: Near Future - Still going to stick to 1080p 60Hz in the near future since i will prefer spending more for a more color accurate monitor instead of a 144Hz one. I also want to get more SSDs to have more storage space, and maybe and HD if the amount of storage i get is not enough. Eventually going to upgrade mouse and keyboard to non wireless better quality ones too. Far future - I do want to eventually upgrade to a 4K color accurate monitor to make it easier to work with high resolution art and possibly also record videos at 4K, if the 1660 is to weak for 4K recording i plan to eventually also upgrade it for a newer GPU. Obs: All parts prices in ARS, and the PSU model is actually Seasonic Focus GM-850 but i could not find it on PCPartPicker (my local store named it differently "Seasonic 850 Watt Real Focus Gm-850 80+Gold (Pn Ssr-850Fm)" but i think they are the same part, since i could not find anything about "Real Focus" on Seasonic website) PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor Purchased For $30000.00 Motherboard MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard Purchased For $27000.00 Memory Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory Purchased For $8390.00 Memory Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory Purchased For $8390.00 Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB GAMING X Video Card Purchased For $41000.00 Case MSI MAG FORGE 100R ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For $21000.00 Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $24000.00 Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $159780.00 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-12 23:14 EDT-0400 It was extremely hard to find any good branded PSU above 550W, specially the ones on the PSU Tier List. I assume the one i managed to get is a bit of overkill but i hope it will not break things, let me know if it is too wrong since i can still refund the parts if need be. I also used the Motherboard VRM Tier list as reference for chosing the MSI MAG B550