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So interestingly I tried this on some videos and they definitely seem to have reduced the quality since mid 2020. and further reduced recently

2 channel super fun videos from 2020:

Video bitrate: 5600 kb/s & 6027 kb/s
Audio bitrate: 140 kb/s 

2 most recent channel super fun videos:

Video bitrate: 2400 kb/s & 4344 kb/s
Audio bitrate: 99 kb/s & 102 kb/s

2 recent short circuit videos:

Video bitrate: 1504 kb/s & 1428 kb/s
Audio bitrate: 82 kb/s & 84 kb/s

Which means that this isn't a service side change but rather an upload quality change, I would bet that something changes in their editing pipeline that lowered the quality of the videos being uploaded in 1080p. To paint this as a "LINUS AND LUKE LIED AGAIN EEEEE" seems a bit reactive, it could be a mistake or an adjustment they should have communicated better. But certainly floatplane is still servicing high bitrate 1080p if the upload was provided at that level.

People will have their own opinion about Linus and this whole mess.
 
However, no matter what he (Linus) says.. His true colors and core values came out in that video clip where he said he would not re-test the gpu cooler with the correct gpu because it will cost them hundreds of dollars in employee time (that was/is the real Linus).. That comment shows that he views LMG employees as an expense (think of SIMS but instead of a ? above heads its $$).
 
When any business owner is so focused and affect by MONEY or viewing employees as an expense, that work environment (over at LMG) is definitely toxic.

Those who fail to acknowledge all the issues with Steves statements and how he approached this are just as bad as those white knighting LMG like they did nothing wrong. 

Here you go:
(timestamped to 6:34)
 
The reaching out is completely just complimentary even in more traditional media. Some newspapers and news channels may have very strict rules about reaching out for a comment but they are still just complimentary and a lot of the time when the news piece is bit "spicy" you will see "X was contacted for input but didn't provide answer" which basicly translates into "10 minutes before pressing publish we send them an email and they didn't answer".
And yes, that is done by even the most respected publications.
 
As Steve says:
He doesn't reach out every time, he doesn't need to reach out every time to corporations when reporting on them. Period. With big corporation he doesn't reach out if the issue already harms the consumers or if their view is irrelevant. Any product he buys and reviews, he doesn't reach out because they are already doing harm.
He didn't need Linus's input or permission to do that video. LMGs videos are already affecting millions of consumers and their objective errors, which he covered objectively (Me: like the case where Linus goes "you can throw anything at Noctua NH-D15 and it handles it" while the very next graph shows NH-D15 not handling everything thrown at it but a CPU thermal throttling) and Linus's response is to move the discussion over why he wasn't allowed to get input on the first video (Me: Because he would have done what he did, turn it into "oh, it's already handled and made right" while actually Coltons email got lost into their bureaucracy and the first thing Linus did before writing the response was to reach out to Billet by himself making sure that "the problem is being handled" and he doesn't lie saying "it's under control").
 
And still that is A LOT more than Linus has done even in the close past. Like with the Billet Labs where he right out denied his writer to make the test properly because it would have costed him money and it wouldn't have changed his stand about the product. That is way further away from objective reviewing with trustful and correct testing than not giving Linus "gas-molecule" Sebastian chance to respond in private and probably start to do damage control before all of his mistakes are thrown into the public.

So, They make an apology video talking about how they need to do things better and make improvements with how things are done, and the first thing they do is publicly release the $2000 monetary value of the prototype email uncensored when Billet Labs made it clear they didn't want that info released?
 
Lmfao, I see we are off to a great start already guys

If you're new to the channel, I understand why you might not know this, but we are extremely committed to improving our accuracy to the point where we are building out a $10M+ facility jam-packed full of equipment and engineering know-how. It's taking time, and this kind of aggressive expansion has been a learning curve for us, but to frame our recent actions as "sacrificing accuracy" is misleading at best. 

We need to make a lot of process changes to get to the point where everything is water-tight. That's a big part of why we added our new CEO Terren to our leadership team, but once again... things take time. He's been full time on the job for less than a single quarter and he's getting up to speed on all the things we are doing right... and yes... all the things we are doing wrong.
 
Trust me, we know. But we are making major investments in improving all of this and we won't stop.

So Linus gave the impression in his response yesterday that LTT and Billet had already worked out compensation, and that all that remained was to send the check (which will be sent, trust me bro), and that Steve would have found this out if he'd asked.
 
Yet Billet Labs tells GN that they heard nothing from LTT until after GN's first video dropped yesterday, when someone from LTT presumably reaches out in a sudden panic so that Linus can "truthfully" say "Yeah it's all been worked out."

I think this revelation just jumped to being the worst part of this whole thing now.

someone rightfully pointed out the flawed testing techniques and mistakes of my favorite youtuber so I hate them and wont listen to the deserved criticism. I will also gloss over the fact that LTT stole a prototype block worth thousands and then auctioned it off even if it wasnt their property AFTER misrepresenting it. 
 
Damn dude, I think you should watch the full GN video and form an OBJECTIVE view on the situation lmao. 

Can't help but agree with Steve's points. I already had a concern watching the "working for lmg" videos where the overwhelming feedback was "I wish we didn't have to go so fast". And I remember watching some of those videos that were highlighted, granted I didn't catch the cooler temp deltas, but I did see the techquickie video that kept having to Asterisk so many of it's points for bad maths, and at one point I had said to a friend "Why didn't they just cut to b-roll and re-record the voice for this?"
 
I like LMG, I like the fun janky project videos, and frankly with their budget it means they're able to do what some can't, but I can't ignore what's being brought up in this video, and I already had problems with the amount of corrections and asterisks being put in.
 
If they want to be taken seriously for accuracy in testing, they also need to be willing to forgo their metics and remove wrong videos.
 
Also the Billet Labs thing is unforgivable. Auctioning off something that wasn't yours, that's been specifically requested back, not cool, they definitely need to publicly address that. And I'd go further and say they need to reach out to who bought it, even if it's a general call out on social media and buy it back for Billet.
 
What I'll be interested to see is... do they invite Steve onto the WAN show? Would they dare? And would Steve show up? Because it's honestly in Linus' best interest to squash this immediately. These are legitimate concerns.

Holy shit I didn't even think of that. 
 
It's quite honestly the same exact situation, but worse because the company actually wanted to product back.

but they are mostly irrelevant to the video. You seem to be upset that GN, almost to a level of annoyance, puts accuracy and ethics above LMG's "entertainment" factor.
 
an irrelevant statement of my own: I've noticed LTT videos becoming more focused on including their children viewers and I think their twitch "meme" status has given them a huge growth in child viewership and so they are trying to capitalize on this. It must be insanely good for their bottom line

44 min later. And i have to say that Steve made an excellent video. I mean, he is pretty spot on.
Notice even how Luke during the wan show said, that maybe they should've just tested the thing on the thing it was designed for.
And when going through the errors i noticed, how i myself even disregarded some of the obvious stuff. Like the gpu cooler being tested on the wrong product. I watched that video and didn't pay it much attention. While retrospectively, that should've been a red flag for me.

That Billet Lab thing is just really FUCKED UP, like how the hell a prototype can end up being auctioned off when it has been asked to be returned? And the whole review thing and Linuses "normal" WAN show explaining of "nothing matter but still everything matters but this doesn't matter because I say so" on top of that... This takes the crown from "No one else respects their warranties so I don't even want to make warranty promises" (where my point was exactly that "I just don't trust you, bro").
 
I won't be nitpicking around the numbers but I kind of knew that the Labs won't change that LTT is entertainment, not unbiased, hard-on facts and testing channel that will make sure their data is true and will post the video even if the sponsor pulls out because they didn't like the results. Those aren't the only times LTT videos have had problems and they won't be the last ones and I would believe LMG won't be changing their actions towards pushing utter bullshit and not officially and clearly owning it, the days later comment that will be pinned week later will be the standard.
 
I strongly agree with GN on that LMG should start to take more time with the videos. I do not underline that LMG would be intentionally bad with the facts but just that the people working don't have enough time to really do their job. I could understand if we were talking about some garage channel rushing videos out to please the algorithm to try to make the couple bucks but LMG level professional media company, unacceptable. The amount of videos doesn't matter if that translates into videos having factual problems and when the videos have factual problems, the "We send it to labs for testing" is just a bad joke. Actually I don't know does the labs really change anything on this front, if they are given the same amount of time as the writers and then the rest of the production, I am not a single bit surprised that there's problems with the data, include into that the "we run every test again" and you have a huge pile of problems incoming and Linus "trust me, bro" Sebastian presenting it as the truth for one of the biggest tech audiences there is and the sad part is, I cannot even trust that meaningful part of that audience will do their own homework and figure out the parts where time and money ended for the video.
 
But get your popcorns ready for the next WAN show because it's probably coming enough spices to salt and pepper everyone's popcorns.

That waterblock review from LTT is truly messed up and misleading and Linus should be ashamed of himself.
 
1) refused to return prototype at request of maker, maker incurs financial losses making the prototype they will not see again
 
2) sold prototype that could be reversed engineered and further damage the company if someone else manufactures it
 
3) knowingly torpedoed the start-up's name and reputation with the video about a 3090 Ti waterblock not working on a 4090 video card, which can hinder future sales. but also open up the avenue for the buyer of the prototype to resell a reverse engineered version under a new name while the billet name is sullied by the review.
 
 
Fuck up does not even begin to describe how horrid that situation is.
 

The part where it is alleged LTT auctioned off a prototype water block they promised to return is troubling. That requires an official response.

What in the video is going to be "debunked" at some point? Steve came with receipts. He didn't say anything where he didn't have a screenshot or clip to back it up.
 
About the only thing that I could see being "debunked" is what happened with the waterblock that was sold at auction at LTX. Maybe there is an alternative explanation for what happened there and the public is missing some important details that happened behind the scenes. But other than that, LTT did make the mistakes Steve pointed out - I remember almost all of them, and for a few the videos are still up in their original state. Linus did say all of the things that Steve pointed out - I remember some of those as well, and the respective WAN Shows where they happened should still be available for viewing.
 
What is there to "debunk" in the video? You can disagree with the severity of the issues, but I don't see anything that will later be shown to be factually incorrect. (Except perhaps that aforementioned auction situation)

If what's alleged here about the Billet Labs prototype is true that's egregious by LMG. 

Intel basically never lowers their prices for new chips, and old high-end Intel chips are always overvalued in the secondary market because people are dumb. 
 
Even with that said, it doesn't make much sense to expect an immediate glut of used 12th-gen i7's and i9's when the chips people would replace them with are only announced and not actually for sale yet. Do you think people are just going to sell their current CPU and then not use their PC for the next several weeks until they can get their hands on the new CPU?

Per the article above they installed 40,000 terminals, presumably the majority of those where intended to be used by individual postmasters and mistresses. Even the full 700 odd people caught up in this only amounts to 2-3% of all individuals, and thats spread over a long period of time and in the aftermath of a time when there wasn't really a way to detect such fraud easily.
 
 
As someone with modding experiance once i grasped what was being described it made me want to punch kittens. When your modding a game and you mess with somthing in the files, (say the rate of fire on a gun in an FPS), if you enter an invalid value, (say 4.2%A when you meant to enter 4.25A), the game when it tried to read it will do one of two things. A) scream and then perform an unexpected immediate controlled exit, (it crashes), usually with an error log telling you what you screwed up. Or B) It reverts to the core files ignoring your edit in the mod file area and prints an error about this to a log.
 
What this software was doing was looking at that and either ignoring it, or reading it as 4.20A, and then proceeding on without throwing the slightest sign something went wrong up.
 
Now imagine that value is the value in 1000's of pounds of money handed out from the till to pensioners collecting pensions. Depending on how it screws up reading that it reports the value handed out as being between £50 and £4250 less than was actually given out. Which to the post office means someone took that money out of the register and ran off with it.

There's a reason you don't see people daily-ing overclocked 3950Xes pulling 250W+, but you do see people running 300W 10900Ks on air cooling. Or the 5800X being harder to cool than a 10700K.
 
More, smaller transistors will be harder to cool than fewer, larger transistors. Again, as mentioned previously, the difference between 7nm TSMC and 14nm Intel isn't as large as AMD's marketing hopes to make you believe (since "7nm" seems to be plastered over any of their recent CPU/GPUs), but this still holds true to an extent.

The prices are pretty competitive this time. But the launch has been delayed to April. Just got notified by one of major OEMs. 

Nah you don't, Windows won't ever install a big update without you going out of your way to look for it.. You have to manually click Check For Updates otherwise it will only force an update when your current versions support period ends.

Vista very much aged like fine wine as you added more service packs. SP2 ultimately is just Windows 7 but better looking. Too bad Windows 10 has yet to figure that good aging process out.
 
I'm just curious how far the softer design will go, and what the new animations will be like. I'm obviously not expecting the wonderfully round glass Vista had (and to a somewhat lesser extent for me, 7), but fuck me man. 10's laughably inconsistent flat design with functionally no nice transparency right now sucks ass, anything at this point would be an improvement in my eyes.

I like to live on the edge. I will. Always have with every new version.