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Also try providing some information. Saying "it is slower than the 3600 in my kids machine" doesn't tell us anything at all. What was the Cinebench score, what other scores have you got when stress testing. What are the temps, what are the clock speeds as measured by task master, ryzen master and HWINFO. What is the power being sent to the CPU? 1.25v? 1.3v? You have written a long post but not really provided actual information. I know you probably a bit upset about your machine and want answer, but more information is only going to get to the solution faster.

Cheers, not sure I actually understand fully what I am seeing, but at least I can see what is happening.

And now back to 0 completely flat line, which is not surprising it isn't doing anything. Just had a crazy hour where it was utlised and I have no idea why. Any command to see a log rather than active?

I have awoken this morning to see that my CPU is actually doing something on FreeNAS...which is unusual. Looking at the history it has been flat line all night long, and only really came to life this morning when I woke up and started doing some file management. However, I am not doing file management at the moment, but my CPU is fluctuating. This generally tends to happen when Plex is connected and providing video to the TV. But plex isn't doing anything at the moment as far as I can see. I did: netstat -n -f inet -p tcp To see if anything was connected, but the only IPs that were visible were internal IPs or the FreeNAS IP itself. Is there a command to see what the CPU is currently working on that would provide why it is active so that I can track down what processes are requiring CPU activity.

Where did the OP say he wanted a mechnical keyboard? You can get logitech keyboard combos for like £30 in the UK (about $45) Are they going to be the greatest keyboard and mouse in the world, which world champions will use to storm the leaderboards of CS:GO? No probably not. Are they going to work fine and be of a decent build quality...yes they are Logitech. Sure tell the poster about the best of the best, but also point out you can get decent alternatives for a relatively cheap price from well known brands.

The store, like any stores are open. I don't know about you, but Ikea just opened in the UK, and the queue was thousands deep. I am not sure having the opportunity to go sit on a chair in a store is realistic one right now, especially if people have vulnerable family members at home. I would also like to see peoples' opinions on what they have experienced with chairs to see if perhaps I can find a reliable consensus to buy a chair online. https://www.itv.com/news/london/2020-06-01/thousands-of-customers-queue-in-searing-heat-to-shop-inside-ikea-for-the-first-time-since-lockdown/ Don't get me wrong, those people are odd, I mean, what was so urgent that you needed from Ikea that you decided to queue all day to buy it - it was not meant as an illustration of sane people behaving normally, but rather of the difficulty facing 'in store' purchases.

I see you are discussing 8tb, I think it changes the math a bit $150-$200 for an 8tb drive, x 3, is still $500-$600 initial outlay. But the data port/cables issue might not come up at that level. I suppose you have to consider your use case and how much space you actually need. I went the 14tb route, because I expect this NAS to be with me for awhile, and I suspect I will be continually adding stuff to the storage. I filled 4tb in a week, so figured even if that slows down, I can still imagine 500gb and 1tb a week, so in 10 weeks, 5tb, in 20 weeks, 10tb. It quickly adds up.

As someone who has gone through this process can I make a suggestion. What are you looking to pay for 5 x 4tb drives? About $100 a pop x 5? So about $500 for those drives? For that you will get 16tb of capacity? I asked a similar question in this forum, and the general consus was, for the money you are spending you could buy far larger drives, giving far more capacity, and providing an opportunity to upgrade in the future. I know your case carries 10 drives? So not like you can't keep adding 4tb drives, but you have to consider both the power draw of that many drives and all the sata power cables you will need, and the sata data cables you will need and the sata ports you will need on your motherboard. Great having a case with 10 drives, but my NAS MB has 6 sata ports - because I wanted a cheap NAS and didn't want to buy a dedicated MB at a higher cost. I think my power supply could cater for 9-12 sata power cables, if I have 3-4 leads carrying 3 sata power heads each (not sure my PSU came with that many leads to be honest) but then do you also need an expansion card for the MB to create more sata ports, I have 6, I have seen 8 on higher end boards, are there boards that have 10, are you going to buy one of those? You can get a 14tb Enterprise drive for $325-$350 from Amazon. So yes, a bit more expensive, but even if you buy 2 x 14tb, that is $650, so $150 extra, but what will it cost you in buying Sata data cables? Sata power cables? A MB that has 10 sata ports or an expansion card to provide more sata ports, and of course the extra power, day in day out to run that many drives...can you balance the cost and justify the initial outlay for larger drives? Sure you will start with a capacity of 14tb instead of 16tb, but in 3 months add 1 more drive...just 1, and you will have 28tb of capacity. You will only ever be able to reach 36tb capacity with 10 drives at 4tb a pop. In 6 months, add one more drive, you will be at 42tb capacity, with just 4 drives. Just a thought, it is something that I considered, but then forgot and was reminded about by people on this forum, so passing on that thought process.

Not going to quote you all, but thanks, I see there is a consensus here...go big or go home That is a well priced drive. 5 year warranty. Of course, I could only buy 2, but that is still 28 tb of storage, less power draw, something I forgot to put in the first post was my concern that I would have to buy a new PSU for 12 drives - not to mention an expansion card to connect the drives, and my concern about 12 power SATA cables and whether my PSU would support that many. Also leaves a lot of expansion possibilities. I think we have a winner.

Roughly speaking, within a margin that doesn't make much difference, the price is equivalent here. All drives are 7200rpm so I don't think there is a significant speed difference. Here are the factors I am considering. I don't run a home server that is active 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, with 30 users hammering me for data. It is used by me and family with a maximum of 3 connections at any given time, with a lot of time spent in downtime, we are at work, we are asleep, we are doing something else. It simply isn't being used. So do I really need drives designed for 100% 24/7 use with massive 300tb a year capacities? I don't do a lot of read/write, back and forth constantly. I write a lot of data, and then occasionally that data is read by upto 3 users at once and even that is quite rare, usually it is one user or two. I am building a new server that has a maximum capacity of 12 x 3.5" HDD, and 4 x 2.5" HDD/SSD. So I am weighing up, if I buy 12 x 2tb, that is 24tb, once I put it in raid and lose 1/3rd, I am still looking at about 16tb of storage space. If I buy 4 x 4tb then that is 16tb to start so about 11tb of storage, a loss of 5tb off the potential maximum - however, it also leaves me the opportunity to buy another 8 x 4tb in the future, which would mean a total capcity of 32tb of storage. Though of course, this will cost 3 times as much for double the capacity. (3 x 4 x 4tb vs 12 x 2tb which is equal to 4 x 4tb) Now I could buy standard 4tb HDD, which are half the price of the Ironwolf drives. So effectively buy 12 x 4tb at double the price of the 12 x 2tb drives. Now I can't afford to do that, but could perhaps buy 6 x 4b standard drives. I am just wondering whether it is worth buying 4 x 4tb Ironwolf because of the design features they have - 24x7 workload and the 5 year warranty that comes with them, even though effectively I would lose 5tb of immediate storage? Now to be clear, the 5tb probaly unlikely to impact on my needs right now, but I don't know what the future will bring, and the reality is, I may not be in a position to spend this much money on HDDs again in the future. I would like to hope I can, but who knows. So your thoughts welcomed.

Cheers for that, nice to have the commands set out in a way that I would understand. Do appreciate you taking the time.

This is the replication video and I think this might be the way to go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et7JyacV_hA He talks at the start about why replication if rsync is so good (which he says it is) but refers to an article that talks about the fact that it replicates one pool to another pool at the block level, so isn't looking for or copying files, but just the entire poo;l and is, to quote, "really fast". Also looking at it, it is possible to do one dataset to another pool, so sounds perfect, he talks about the fact that being in the same place isn't a back up, but this isn't my back up provision this is a one time upgrade (well for now anyway). All gibberish to me until I finish watching them both and get an understanding, but thought it was worth adding to the thread for posterity. Thanks for the assistance and the push in the right direction, I doubt very much I would have found this on my own.

Oh, not to be an arse in case anyone comes to this thread seeking the same answers. Video is here that I am watching now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhlp18QTUTo Can't vouch for it, since my knowledge is so limited, I doubt I will be able to vouch for it after watching it, but I have watched a few of this guys videos on other things and found them helpful. So you takes your chances!

Cheers watching a video on it now. Interestingly, at the start of the video he spoke about ZFS replication and references another video he has on that. So will likely watch that one afterwards. Thanks for the heads up. I also noted that rsync appears to be a service in FreeNAS, but going to watch the video and see what it is all about.

Not sure it applies fully, as my new NAS will have the same CPU/Motherboard and SSD boot device and the drives will be connected in the same way. As far as FreeNAS is concerned, nothing would have changed, it would just have been down for a couple of hours while hardware is migrated to a new case, and new hardware is wired in. My issue is about migrating data from those drives, as recognised, to new drives in a new pool. On a gigabit connection, my best transfer speeds are 80mbs, it takes 10 minutes to copy a 50gb file from one drive to another drive (both HDD) currently, my back of a napkin math is about 7-8 hours give or take, so not days as I thought, at least, but it is a whole day. I am assuming that rysnc is a command, and you posted while I was posting, and I will go have a look, but is this essentially cloning the datasets to a new pool? Would it be faster given that it is not going through windows?

So my FreeNAS is getting full, and my intention is to buy a pack of IronWolf drives and rebuild my server in a case that has space for more drives (current NAS has room for 3 HDD and 2 SSD - upgraded NAS has room for 9 drives - gives room for expansion in the future). I run FreeNAS and Plex, and I wondered whether anyone had a better way of doing it than the way I had planned... My plan was: Build server; Map drives in windows; Copy pasta everything to new drives; Mount Plex to new drives; Re-scan libraries in Plex Delete material on original drives for other data storage purposes; (I will of course be creating a new Pool for the new drives and a new data set for Plex) It occured to me that this will be extremely slow, and will take quite literally days to complete due to the 3tb of data that will need to be shuffled around. I do have a dim memory that through command prompt, you can actually copy data, especially large amounts of data, far faster. Individual file size ranges from 500mb to 45gig per file, so we are not talking about < 10mb files (which are far slower to move). Anyone know of a better way they would be kind enough to share? Thanks