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The 5800X3D is still a great gaming chip, and I don't see it becoming a bad option until the next console generation. The current consoles basically have 3700X CPUs with really good iGPUs, so that's going to be the target for any game developed for consoles in the next few years. A 5800X3D is about 45% faster for gaming on average than the 3700X, so you certainly won't have any gaming situation arise where it becomes "unplayable" in the near future. It may not be able to give you tons of FPS four years from now - you may run into future games where a stable 60FPS is starting to be difficult to achieve - but that's the nature of running a then 5 year old CPU.
 
Even the legendary 2600K - arguably the best gaming CPU of all time in terms of longevity - struggled in some games in 2016, like Watch Dogs 2. You can see in this video here that even OC'ed to 4.3GHz and paired with a GTX 1080, in some sections of the game it can't quite get up to 60fps. There's nothing that can be done about that. At the end of your 4 years, you're gonna be coasting on fumes no matter what CPU you get.
 
Techspot actually tested the RTX 4080 with the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, so you can look at their numbers to see if you're happy with the performance the 5800X3D brings to the table with that GPU. The weakest showing was 128FPS average in Cyberpunk 2077. For the latest AAA title "The Last of Us Part 1" (granted the game is very unoptimized), you can see in this video that that pairing gives you about 100FPS average at 1440p max settings.
 
But if we look at this from a value perspective, the 5800X3D is a great choice for you. You're getting gaming performance near the level of chips like the 12900K and 7950X that cost way more on their own and would require you to also do a platform upgrade with DDR5, which is going to blow out the cost considerably.
 
So yes, I would say keeping your motherboard and RAM is very reasonable.

The 5800X3D only supports DDR4. You'd have to go to the AM5 platform (Ryzen 7000) or LGA1700 (Intel 12th and 13th gen) to gain DDR5 support.
 
An advantage of the 5800X3D is that it doesn't really need fast RAM. The big cache on the chip is what gives you the gaming performance boost by letting the CPU store 96MB of data in L3 cache.
 
Think of the CPU as a hungry restaurant goer and the cache size is the size of the plate. The V-Cache is like giving the person a plate 3x bigger than normal. It will take some time to eat through all that food. Whereas fast RAM is like putting the waiter on roller skates so he can go back and forth between the table and the kitchen faster to bring out more food. If you had a small plate, putting the waiter on skates will help, because he'll be back with food when you run out on your plate. But you don't really need both the big plate and the fast waiter to eat as quickly as possible.

Something I'd note is that the 5800X3D can't be overclocked, so you don't really need liquid cooling. Unless you're going with that AIO for purely aesthetic reasons, I'd go with a dual-tower air cooler for the improved longevity. It's just metal and a couple of fans, whereas an AIO has many more points of failure. The AIO is also going to cost you literally hundreds of dollars more.
 
The Peerless Assassin for $41 is hard to beat, considering that you'll get identical gaming performance between it and an AIO: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09LGY38L4
 
There's also the RGB version for $42 if you want the bling: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09P4M4C7K

With the 4080 and 5800x3d it seems like a very capable gaming system. i would go for this edited build of your example, (i would also go with a 7900 xtx but if you want to go with a 4080 cuz you like nvidia then by all means): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xjHBXy

I've been to a few forums where owners of the RTX 3070 Ti are in denial, saying their cards are capable to 1440P gaming, and while for the most part, I'd agree, there're some exceptions. Hogwarts Legacy, Forspoken, and other newer releases have a trend of high VRAM requirement. 8GB VRAM isn't gonna hack it any more at 1440P for newer and more GPU intensive games. 
 
Now, the next step is a 12GB card, but to me, that's kinda cutting it close, with games like those newer AAA ones eating up 10-11GB of VRAM at 1440P, it seems that 16GB VRAM is considered the 'safe' amount of VRAM for up to 1440P/4K. Other than the RTX 3090, the only newer nVidia cards to fit that are the RTX 4080/4090, but they're not cheap. 
 
Now, let's consider AMD's offerings, the RX 6800 and up, plus the RX 7900 XT/XTX would either meet with or exceed that 16GB VRAM threshold. The RX 7900 series has brought up AMD's RX 7900XT/XTX performance to roughly even with the RTX 3080/3090 respectively, so they are capable of decent RT performance, just up to the RTX 4000 series level. For rasterize gaming, bothe AMD latest GPUs are pretty capable of very good framerate for rasterize games, as well as games with light-med RT implementation.
 
I have the MERC 310 RX 7900 XTX in my main rig, and a Nitro+ RX 6900 XT in my 2nd rig, and other than minor driver issues, they've been great performers in the games I play. I've been playing Dead Space Remake, COD MWII, Calisto Protocol, etc as of late, no problemo.
 
And to prove I ain't BS'ing, below is a pic of my main rig, using Linkup Riser cable and vertical/angled GPU mount, GPU's running at PCIe4 x16 with SAM enabled.

I don't think I'd buy a 12GB card in your price class; I'd go 7900 XT all the way. Especially seeing my RX 6700 XT using 10.8 GB at 1440p high in The Last of Us Part 1. Would be very nervous about 12GB tomorrow becoming like 8GB today is. God I hate how cheap Nvidia is with VRAM, but they have dominant market share and know they can get their customers to buy more often if they never make another 1080 Ti again and instead gimp the VRAM. Don't think I'd touch an Nvidia card lower than the 4080. They really should have put 16GB on the 4070 Ti, then DLSS 2 plus better RT would be enough of a selling point that I'd probably take it over the 7900 XT at the same $800 price.

There is no "Wrong" decision. The 7900xtx is significantly faster in rasterization. 4070ti is capable of calculating raytracing quicker (does not mean fps will be more since it still rasterizes)
 
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-gaming-x/34.html
for ray tracing



for non ray tracing



So future games that use MORE raytracing like global illumination the 4070ti is likely better. Neither choice is wrong. both will last you the next 3-4 years and put a smile on your face as you play your games. 

I assumed by almost pulled the trigger you meant you had an opportunity, like a good deal. 

No, im not running a 7900xtx. I just run a laptop with vega graphics. 

Driver issues IMO on both sides are overblown, as they only ever show up on launch day generally and are fixed fairly rapidly. 

Budget?
Rest of specs?
 

7900xtx would have been what I would have gone for, but the deal is over I guess. Yes for the 4070ti, 12GB will last for the next 3 years just fine. You might not be able to max out the textures in some games, but just dropping textures to high will look 99% the same and run just fine. 

Also, 1440p is NOT 2k, and never has been. 2k is 2048*1080 / 1920*1080. 

 

the 7900 xtx isn't a bad card anymore and i think all the driver issues have been fixed. But wait for someone who has that card

Yes you can. DRAM is optional, but it'll help the longevity of the drive. SN750 SSD has 5 years warranty if not mistaken.

Long story short 
It's better dram chips
 

Is this a good choice?
 
https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Trident-PC4-28800-CL16-19-19-39-F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC/dp/B07WVT8SGF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YWU5E7LCPJPG&dchild=1&keywords=trident+z+neo+16gb&qid=1591596261&s=electronics&sprefix=Trident+Z+NEo+16+%2Celectronics%2C147&sr=1-1
 
Btw, Tofu, I have spoken to you in this forum more than I have spoken to my mother in the past few days.

Cheers! Damn @TofuHaroto! You are always active in this category of the forum. 
Any suggestions on X570 mobos < $250? 
 
2070 super, 3700x

Haha cheers guys! I just got into this whole PC-building scene.
Appreciate your response. 

Haha cheers guys! I just got into this whole PC-building scene.
Appreciate your response.