Andk1987

WE FUKKEN DID IT BOIS

This proper cracked me up,

mega bit and megabyte are two totally different things 8 bits make a byte..... 16x8=128 32x8=256

Seems a bit more clarification and discussion is happening now.

the buisness side of things is where its at AMD knows they have an ace up thier sleeve with zen3 and its going to be the generation that AMD clearly and fully dominated intel from the top to the bottom of the product stack in every single workload. so they know theyre going to be able to get away with it

The plot thickens

Tech jesus has weighed in and said much the same....

the salt is coming in fast on Reddit https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/gfub3b/robert_hallock_amd_it_seems_hostile_and_abusive/

everyone knows that, companies are out to make money, thing is there isnt any real technical reason to not support 4xx boards with the new Zen3 chips though, and to top it off alot of people were practically forced into the older boards because AMD didnt release a b550 on Zen2 launch

This about sums up why im pissed off about it too, lets be honest everyone assumed that at least the 4xx boards would be good until AMD switched over to DDR5 or a new socket.

this is why everyone is up in arms, from what was said to hardware unboxed it seems that AMD will be locking 3xx/4xx chipsets out of being supported in the AGESA bios code they release to motherboard manufacturers like they did when they blocked PCIe 4 on compatible 4xx motherboards

theyre not cutting support if they still provide a bios for those cpus that can be installed on the motherboard, theres ways of doing it, or simply leaving it to the board manufacturers to make up thier minds if they want to support Zen3, but this sucks ass that AMD seem to be just straight up cutting support for this when it is likely very possible to do for alot of motherboard manufacturers on alot of thier motherboards, theres alot of X570 motherboards what must support Zen1 chips also that have 16mb bios memory which makes this all a bit of a shitty argument for why.

then cut support for the Zen1 cpus? reduce graphical elements in bioses? create a firk in bios updates? there are alot of options available to pull this off other than AMD sinply drawing an arbitrary line in the sand when the motherboards and all of rhetoric and selling points for the platform pointed in the opposite direction.

Lucky lad, looks nice

the support was for the AM4 socket, not for the architecture support, Zen3 will fit in 5xx series motherboards which are AM4, this is AMD and its board partners forcing people into buying new motherboards because the performance of Zen3 will likely put them on top for everything and people will pay it, whilst those who bought a 4xx series bord for Zen2 launch beecause X570 was impractically expensive to match up with a 3600 for example, are now not able to upgrade to the next architecture.

except there really isnt any reason to cut off the 4xx/3xx boards, 5xx will be the last AM4 boards, that would have been "the perfect time" to call it quits and cut support, not when youve just forced anyone to use the older revision chipset because they didnt release a B550 on zen2 launch, which made it impractical to purchase £200 mobo (even if you could find one) for a £190 cpu, and at the time it was thought that those boards would be compatible until the end of the AM4 socket support, which Zen3 is...... this is AMD making a hard cut because theyre caving into thier board partners to force everyones hand on buying B550 or X570 boards because they can, and people wont mind because likely Zen3 will put AMD very much on top of the competition and not just "close" like they are with Zen2

yeah i get it man, just a little disapointing when it is most likely possible and was one of AMDs strong points that they stuck on the AM4 platform where you could put a ryzen 3000 on practically any of the AM4 motherboards, i get why, money is king at the end of the day

yeah i know, ive got one, what im saying is when you bought a 3600 on launch you really didnt have an option, X570 boards simply werent in stock and even if they were they cost more than a 3600 and one of the big selling points of AMD is/was multi generation cpu support, and for them to cut that out from under you is a bit shitty imo.

i get what youre saying, but when most people whom for buying x570 didnt make sense, ie buying a 3600 which is the strongest contender in thier lineup for gaming value and performance, you had to go b450 or x470 because they didnt release a b550 to go with, now to throw support out the window for those boards is a bit of a shitty move imo

then do what msi did and reduce the graphical elements?

AM4 is the physical socket layout, and its obviously going to be supported with ZEN3 becaust the 5xx series boards are listed compatible, the agesa code is the little packet of code AMD releases to motherboard manufacturers to allow them to build thier BIOS to make the chips work on thier motherboards.

Yeah Zen3 is going to be AM4 socket, as the X570 and B550 boards have an AM4 socket, and theyre listed as compatible, theyll likely be switching to AM5 with DDR5 and zen4 due to pinout and i/o requirements ect

yeah at the end of the day its all about money i suppose, but with the whole AM4 platform was and is sold on the excellent compatibility, with the whole intel tick tock stratergy having a new motherboard and little room to upgrade without replacing a load of extra stuff, it was nice to see, shame by the sounds of things theyre not letting motherboard manufacturers make the decision on this like others have said, i built the wife an office pc with a VERY cheap a320 board and a 3600 and it works great, even with 3600mhz ram with xmp enabled, and was hoping to have that with my higher tier motherboard for Zen3, but alas

yeah but AMD blocked PCIE 4 support on 4xx and lower series boards at a later date and the comments in the above video seem to support they are going to pull the same stunt with support for Zen3 on anything but 5xx series boards which is very dissapointing