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Derpanieux

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    Ryzen 5 1600 AE
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    MSI PC Mate B350
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    8GB x 2 G.Skill Trident White 3200 CL 16
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    EVGA GTX 980ti Hybrid
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    850W 80+ Gold rated Rosewill something or another

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  1. I would also suggest you try to swap the CPU between your machine and your sons machine to see how the performance stacks up when you do that
  2. Does your motherboard have any PBO boost type of thing out of the box? some motherboards have been doing that lately. They deviate from AMD specs when you use the factory BIOS settings. Although that should show up as a difference in clock speed vs normal so I'm not sure
  3. Not really necessary, as long as you have made sure to monitor the clockspeed. Have you tried to use a fresh install of windows on a different drive?
  4. Peak clocks can be deceiving. If you have MSI afterburner I believe you can make graphs of individual core clock speeds with it. If your clocks dip halfway through the run due to VRM issues or something like that peak will not show that.
  5. Monitor clockspeeds to make sure youre hitting the right clocks. You could be running into thermal issues with motherboard VRMs, so monitor those too. This could also be an issue, try clearing cmos or maybe flash to newest version of BIOS.
  6. It depends on the games and settings you are going to be running. If you're gaming at 4k you will have a much heavier load on the GPU than if you are doing 1080p high refresh. Also different games put more or less stress on the CPU or GPU depending on the way the game is programmed. There could also be a bottleneck somewhere else in the system, like memory. It really all depends on what your system is being used for.
  7. I have been using a 360 controller, since the XBONE controller feels too fat in my hands for me. Really just personal preference though.
  8. On the topic of MSI motherboards, there is one x570 which is really good: the tomahawk. Pretty much MSI realized their boards had trash VRMs so they made the tomahawk with absolute units for VRMs. Those VRMs are comparable to top of the line boards. But the Gaming Edge Wifi you spec'd out is one with awful VRMs, so if you plan on OC'ing at all or if you find the funds to step up to a 3900x it would probably be inadvisable.
  9. I don't know if you are aware of the RTX 2060 KO, but it is a cut down 2080 super die rebadged as a 2060. It performs comparably to a 2060 in gaming, but it is a lot faster in some professional applications. GamersNexus did a great video on it. Blender in particular works really well on it. They're also quite cheap. IMO you shouldn't get the 3800x, it is little more than a factory OC 3700x. If you can afford it, I think the 3900x is a much better buy. Finally, I think that the 3600 ram is not necessary. The difference between 3600 and 3200 is not very large, especially if you can get tighter timings on your 3200 kit. As for waiting for next gen, I think that is generally a fools errand unless products have been announced and the manufacturers have announced set release windows already. If you're always waiting for the next big release, you never end up buying anything. Ryzen 3000 is a perfectly fine buy IMO, since XT chips are only rumors at this point there is no guarantee of them even existing, so just buying what you can right now is the best course of action IMO
  10. That makes sense, but you still could probably get away with just a res. No need to spend the money on a pump when you already have three.
  11. I think a small RAM upgrade and an SSD should make it a perfectly capable web browsing machine. Browsers are infamously ram hungry and DDR3 can be had pretty cheap nowadays so I think it would be prudent to buy some more (or download, cheaper that way)
  12. They absolutely can be, if you have processes open in the background. For example, I often listen to music in the background while I game. If your processor doesn't have enough threads, the processor time taken to do something as simple as Spotify can cause stutters. Reminds me of the "monitor bottleneck" that people often forget about... Anyways, my answer to the actual question is really that I go by wallet bottleneck. That includes the targeted framerate and resolution and games I plan on running. Last time I upgraded my system it was because I wanted higher framerate in GTA V so I upgraded my processor from my old FX to the then shiny and new Ryzen 5. As much as I would like to upgrade to the shiniest new stuff, I usually can't justify the cost unless I know I need higher performance.
  13. I am currently rocking some AKG K702s that I got from amazon for around $150, but I believe that was a sale price. They have a very flat sound signature and great imaging. Personally I prefer a shallow v curve, but a little EQ and its perfect for me. You can get some pretty good deals on DACs and amps through drop.com, but I'm using a portable FiiO DAC/amp combo because I like to take it on the go (back when going out was a thing...) and also use it with my PC. I think the FiiO cost me around $50. Comfort wise, these things are great. They're incredibly lightweight and put very little pressure on your head. They're made as studio monitors, designed to be comfortable for hours on end. They are the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn. This setup has been excellent for everything I've ever thrown at it, although I will say I don't listen to much metal (pretty much just the black metallica album and rage against the machine lol). If you can't find the K702s, the Massdrop K7XX headphones are pretty much exactly the same.
  14. IMO its worth a shot if your coolers are out of warranty. If you end up doing it, I think you can save some money by just getting a res and using the pumps already in the AIOs.If you're really cheap you could probably get away without a res either, but the added thermal mass would definitely be helpful. Since you mentioned this is your first PC I'm assuming you don't have too much water cooling experience, so you should make sure you read up on loop configuration. Also make sure that the AIOs you are using use standard tube sizes, maybe see if GamersNexus has a teardown of them, i think they measure the tubing size. Also make sure that you are not mixing metals between all the AIOs, because if you do that you're in for a bad time.
  15. No they don't care, and you shouldn't either. They do support 3000 series CPUs but in order to run it you need a special beta bios. Its not possible for the motherboard to support every ryzen CPU at the same time, so you end up with a jumbled mess of compatibility if you try to make a load of different bios revisions. Not to mention the issues with memory compatibility, buggy bios, and whatever else can crop up. Slotting a 3000 series CPU into a first gen board is already a wicked good deal, and I think its not really reasonable to expect AMD or the board makers to spin up new bios releases for old board to run hardware combinations that just aren't very reasonable to begin with.
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