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If higher res uses higher res textures then ram use goes up at the square of texture size.  If it uses mostly same textures ram use won't change much. 
A 4k texture is 4096x4096, not the 3840 x 2160 of 4k picture. 
Size of textures will vary at same resolution, so it is not as simple as 4k texture res for 4k screen res.
Gpu can also do particles and physics as well, so what percentage of ram is used for textures can vary a lot.
A 4k photoscaned texture may not compress well, where 8k procedural one could compress to be smaller then 2k.
It can very hugely from game to game

If higher res uses higher res textures then ram use goes up at the square of texture size.  If it uses mostly same textures ram use won't change much. 
A 4k texture is 4096x4096, not the 3840 x 2160 of 4k picture. 
Size of textures will vary at same resolution, so it is not as simple as 4k texture res for 4k screen res.
Gpu can also do particles and physics as well, so what percentage of ram is used for textures can vary a lot.
A 4k photoscaned texture may not compress well, where 8k procedural one could compress to be smaller then 2k.
It can very hugely from game to game

Yes, rx6800, rx6800xt, and 6900xt are all same big Navi die.

I ordered at around 2-3 am, I got same or similar email.  Shipping expected around Jan-Mar, update in first week of December.  Probably to say if they expect to ship sooner after all the canceled orders after being told could be march.  I'll wait as I was upgrading from Zen+ cpu I have in x570. (moving zen+ to b450 when new cpu arrives as secondary pc)
 
5950x would blow away anything in even newest macbook, even a 3900x would for that matter. Going from even top of line 2017 labtop to that combination should be a massive upgrade in performance.

nvidia is not intel they will put up a good fight
like a 3090ti/super or heck maybe even a new titan

Amd apu maxs out at 16gb used with 32+ system ram.  Not sure how fps would be affected, it won't be comparable to discrete gpu with 16 gb.  

Geforce 6200 in 2004, died in months.
Geforce 6800 ultra in 2004, still in pc, sitting unplugged near current pc.
picked up 2nd used 6800 ultra for sli, don't remember year.
Intel iGPU on atom in 2009, still have that system 
gtx 1050 in 2017-2018
Removed to use intel iGPU, ran games well enough. was simpler to get multi-monitor setup with old vga monitors working with iGPU.
late 2019-early 2020 put gtx 1050 in new ryzen 7 build
early 2020- now rx5700xt
near future, 5950x in current x570 mobo with rx5700xt(I know it is not balanced, odd use case),  ryzen 7 moving to new 450 mobo with the 1050 put back in.
 
Probably odd in how much I moved around a 1050, used iGPU so much, and have 16 years of computers sitting in row....
 

I am currently typing from mixed brand/speed/capacity/timings. works fine on zen+, but speed and timings are way below spec to keep stable.  Mixed 3200 and 3600 and max that I could get was 2133, reports dual channel though and I have had nearly all 96gb in use before.  All modules are dual rank, never tried mixing single and dual rank.  Have modules to fix mismatch for 4*32 3600, just haven't swapped yet.

Geforce 6200 in 2004, died in months.
Geforce 6800 ultra in 2004, still in pc, sitting unplugged near current pc.
picked up 2nd used 6800 ultra for sli, don't remember year.
Intel iGPU on atom in 2009, still have that system 
gtx 1050 in 2017-2018
Removed to use intel iGPU, ran games well enough. was simpler to get multi-monitor setup with old vga monitors working with iGPU.
late 2019-early 2020 put gtx 1050 in new ryzen 7 build
early 2020- now rx5700xt
near future, 5950x in current x570 mobo with rx5700xt(I know it is not balanced, odd use case),  ryzen 7 moving to new 450 mobo with the 1050 put back in.
 
Probably odd in how much I moved around a 1050, used iGPU so much, and have 16 years of computers sitting in row....
 

If you spend more time editing, biggest bang for buck is probably going from 8 to 12 cores for $100.  Won't do much for gaming, but it would really help with a lot of editing programs.  Should also allow doing things like taking break by just minimizing editor to take gaming break instead of closing out.  Excess of cores are great for switching back and forth between things without need to close programs.

If super/ti/titan come out will depend on amd.  If big navi has lots of bugs or issues or lower then expected performance, nvidia would likley not do much else. 
If amd unveils some secret 6990 that can beat the 3090, 48 gig ram titan 3000 will be announced as soon as nvidia can rush it.
I'm guessing amd will do well enough to be competitive, but not take top card slot forcing a titan release above 3090.
 
3090 is faster then 3080, more cores, but 3080 should be plenty unless you are doing very heavy workloads and/or need the ram.  Sort of like ryzen 3950 vs threadripper 3960, faster if you need that many cores, but just more expensive with unused threads for most uses.  
 
If you really need vram, 3090 is worth it, but that is not common.  If you would take radeon vii to rx 5700xt since 8gb won't cut it, go 3090.  Otherwise 3080 and leaving extra money in bank for future upgrade should work out better.  Even if you would need the extra ram, waiting for the 20gb 3080 might be good idea.
 

Hello everyone!

Very excited to begin this build log/upgrade for my "Gaming Server Rack". 

It will be featuring the following current hardware:
Server Rack Sysracks SRF 18.6.10 18U 39" Depth Floor Standing Cabinet 1" Foam Sound Deadening Phobya G-Changer Xtreme NOVA 1080 Radiator 60mm - Replaces spot for 4 Exhaust Fans on Server Rack EK quick connect fittings to hook up to Gaming Server 9x Fractal Design Venturi HP 120mm Fans for 1080 Radiator 10 way PWM Fan Splitter Custom Arduino Pro Micro Fan Controller Drives 10 way PWM Fan Splitter 20x4 LCD to replace stock server LCD for feedback Water Temp probe connected to 1080 radiator for water temp Ambient air thermocouple Fan speed based off temperatures Lots of RGB Gaming PC Rosewill RSV-L4000 9700K @ 5.0GHz EK CPU Waterblock - Clear Acrylic & Nickel Plated Copper Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Ultra Motherboard G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3600MHz 16-19-19-39 Memory Gigabyte 1080Ti Waterforce WB Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD - OS Drive Mushkin 1TB 2.5" SSD - Games Drive WD Black 6TB - Bulk Storage/Games Drive EK D5 Waterpump w/ Reservoir EK Coolstream PE-360 (can run disconnected from server radiator if needed) Custom acrylic top panel Idea is to mount the rack so this will be visible from the front of the server rack Will determine if this is worth doing once i get things together Supermicro Unraid Server Supermicro CSE-846 4U Server Chassis 24x 3.5" Hot Swap Bays Raid Controller Card 2x E5 2667 v2 Xeon 3.30/4.00GHz Base/Boost CPUs 2x Noctua NH-U9DX i4 Narrow ILM CPU Cooler NVIDIA Quadro P2000 - Transcoding 8x16GB Micron PC3-14900R DDR3-1866 REG ECC Memory MT36JSF2G72PZ-1G9E1HF 2x Supermicro PWS-920P-SQ 920W Platinum PSUs Supermicro AOC-SLG3-2M2 PCIE card for 2x NVME SSD 2x1TB Intel 660p NVME SSD - Unraid Cache Drives Unraid Array Drives 6x10TB Shucked WD HDDs 2x8TB Shucked WD HDDs 1x10TB WD Red Other Drives 1TB WD Blue SSD 2.5" 4TB WD Red 4TB WD Green 1TB WD Black 250GB WD Blue Fans All the Noctua 2x 80mm Noctuas 3x 140mm Noctuas 1x 120mm Noctuas Fancy Supermicro bearing slides (on the way. forced to get these as basic rails i have now don't work with new rack) Battery Backups APC SMT1500RM2U 1500VA 1000W 2U UPS 3x 12V DC-DC Battery Backups - still waiting for these from China. need testing Networking Protectli Vault running pfsense 1U Netgear 24-Port Gigabit unmanaged switch 1U 24-Port Keystone Patch Panel TP-Link Deco S4 Mesh WiFi  
So now that we got that out of the way, where am I at with this?

Well, all of this was originally hooked up (and still mostly is) on a 25U? open frame rack. It sits next to my desk. Its loud and ugly, and with the kiddos getting bigger (1month/2.5year) i want something to protect the goods.

I saw a post on reddit with a really sexy looking rack, and after seeing the prices at sysracks, i was sold. Now my server chassis are too big for the sleek under desk rack, but i'm still very happy with my big boy rack.
 
Right now i'm just waiting on the supermicro rails so i can move everything over in one fell swoop.
 
Also really excited to hook up the 1080 radiator to the gaming pc loop. I'm a little nervous about a single D5 pump having to move all that water but we'll see how it does. I might throw another pump in series on the server rack for good measure, although i'll have to come up with a way to only run it at the same time as the gaming pc. Another option is to do dual pumps in the gaming pc and move the reservoir to the server chassis (probably a better solution).
 
I'll get more pics soon, but here's where things are at:

https://bit-tech.net/guides/modding/how-to-jump-a-psu/1/  Here is article showing what pin/wires to ground.  Grounding that pin tells psu to turn on when power button on case is pushed, psu for gpu needs to have this either permanently grounded or hooked to same pin of main psu, so both ground when button is pushed.  Paperclip is fine for test bench, I wouldn't try doing it day to day.

It is possible, you can specify what gpu to use for what program.  If you are running multiple programs with heavy gpu use at same time it could be handy. 
GPU idles if not used or under light load, not worth it unless running on battery power foe energy savings, gpu life would not be a measurable difference.
 

A heat pipe water block could be made better and more expensive then a water block, not the same as tank around air cooler or water through heat pipes in air cooler.

Imagine something like this with thicker top with micro fins cut into it making direct silicon contact on one side and and in direct water contact on other face.  It would be very expensive, but if intel makes a 900w tdp hedt cpu/spaceheater someday, it could be worth the trouble.  

On that motherboard it will run gpu at 16x pci 4.0, equal to 2 16x pci 3.0 slots used by rtx titan.  Twice bandwidth of titan card, rx5500xt needs nowhere near even half that.
Other x570 might switch 16x slot to 8x when second card is installed, still won't bottleneck gpu, maybe bottleneck of 3080  or big navi, but not any current gen cards.

Intel i5 9600k. Probably better keeping the $50 and getting something else I want. I appreciate your feedback 

Vram is an issue if you have enough.  If use needs 5gb, 6 and 8 will give same performance.  If it needs 7gb, massive performance hit or won't run at all for some programs.
 
For something like rendering, rx5600xt is much faster if less then 6gb are needed.  Mining rx470 with 16gb ram will smoke a 2080 ti if render needs 12gb of vram, opposite if under 11gb of course.
 
I have seen program just say "8gb or higher needed" in popup and close program.  Professional program, not a game, most games don't need that many gigs for low setting, so you can at least get to menu.
 
Rx570 is cheaper, so for tie over card it is good choice, less wait to save for 5700.
 
High settings/screen res/ third party texture mods eat ram, more ram won't make 1080 low fps any higher.  If you don't need the ram and cost is similar, rx5600xt is much better.

Glad to have helped,

This has io pins, has Arduino built in on separate chip.  Note large price vs raspberry pi, or an itx motherboard and apu combo for that matter.

This has io pins, has Arduino built in on separate chip.  Note large price vs raspberry pi, or an itx motherboard and apu combo for that matter.

qvl lists combinations that have been tested.  If ram maker list it as 3600, it should run 3600.  It just has been put in that exact motherboard and had speed checked.  Chance of issue isn't zero, but is very low.  Early zen was picky with memory, newer zen isn't. 
 
Back in day, if you bought 2 sticks of ram and then bought 2 more it might not work, was safer to buy kit of 4 sticks tested to all work at same time, qvl lists were important back then.  Now some one upgrading two 8gb sticks to four wouldn't buy four 8gb stick kit and remove the two 8gb kit just to be safe.  Chance of issue is so tiny it is not even a concern anymore.
 
There are only 3 ram makers, all the different brands just add heat sinks and rgb to chips from samsung/micron/hynix.  Your unlisted on qvl ram could be exactly same ram chips as one that is listed, packaged by different company with different heat sink stock on.

This has io pins, has Arduino built in on separate chip.  Note large price vs raspberry pi, or an itx motherboard and apu combo for that matter.

This has io pins, has Arduino built in on separate chip.  Note large price vs raspberry pi, or an itx motherboard and apu combo for that matter.

This has io pins, has Arduino built in on separate chip.  Note large price vs raspberry pi, or an itx motherboard and apu combo for that matter.