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Cable management alone is a hassle, PCPP doesn't take into account things like RAM clearances and only gives basic info. As for coolers, I personally had a choice of 3 (C7, L9a, stock) that would fit in my system but any of them without modding would let my cpu bake while gaming or using CAD programs. I personally use Noctua fans. And you can't really choose your GPU fans on an air cooler. Just tryin to help people who may have the same issues as me.

Small Form Factor PC’s can be somewhat powerful and very small nowadays, but there are always tradeoffs. They're tough to build in, hard to plan, often limit cooling, and are hard to silence. These tips are based on my experience with a Fractal Design Node 202 Case for ~2 years; this isn't comprehensive and I'm no expert, but I never found all these things together when I went looking, so I decided to put this together. This is also my first post besides bricking a motherboard with bad cooling (See Cooling>Ducting for what I’ve learned, I stress tested my new setup A LOT and found the culprit). Planning General Modding Cooling

I had been using my PC like normal (light gaming, basic CAD work), and shut it down before going to eat dinner. I came back (about 1.5 hrs later) and pressed the power button, and although all fans spun up, keyboard lit up, ect. there was no boot, POST, or even post codes.. I've taken it out of the case, cleared CMOS, disconnected SSD's, tried all possible RAM combinations, but I still can't get either a video output or even a post code via the case speaker (but the keyboard still lights up and fans spin up, although that's expected). Should I just assume that the Mobo is dead and get a new one? I highly doubt it's the PSU as it's the newest part of my system (<6months). UPDATE: A friend came over with a known working GPU, and the system still wouldn't post with that. Ryzen 5 2600 CPU Gigabyte AB350N- Gaming Wifi Mobo 8GB Trident Z 2800 DDR4 RAM Asus GTX 1070 GPU Seasonic Focus SGX450 Gold PSU