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If he ignore Asus QVL he can find and other good PSUs like Corsair TX750M
Rm750x have
PCI Express Connector
 
 4 x 6+2pins
Cpu Connector 1 x 24pins (20+4pins)
TX750M is compatible with motherboard X570 about connectors? (8+4 pin)
 
I ask because and i wanna use this PSU with Aorus X570 pro
 

That CPU uses a little under 200 watts, at the absolute maximum. And that's with a very, very significant overclock.

The TDP is 105w ... it's not the same as consumption.
 
You can see some measurements here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3287-amd-r7-2700-and-2700x-review-game-streaming-cpu-benchmarks-memory/page-3
 
In an application that can keep all the cores at 100%, the 2700x consumes 142 watts, at probably around 1.35v .
Overclocked to the maximum possible, it consumes 192 watts with a voltage of 1.4v
Let's round up and just say 150 w / 1.35v = 111A  or 200w / 1.4v = 142A
Remember one of my previous posts where I said one VRM has a maximum of 480A and the other is rated for maximum 600A?
 
Your 2700x barely makes the VRM of these boards get close to 30% of its maximum capabilities, so yeah, the power consumption is not that much if we consider the maximums the board can do.
 
In games, you won't have all 8 cores and 16 threads at 100%, as it happens in a benchmark application that keeps the cpu at 100% for long periods of time... so your cpu's power consumption will probably be around 80-100w in games, on average.
 
Newer processors are more efficient so for example, a 3900x (12 cores/24 threads) reviewed more recently measured only 170 watts... see 2nd picture. 
 

 

I'm a bit biased because I plan on buying it for myself and I like motherboards that don't look like somebody threw up colors on them (ex. camouflage paint design or lots of lines and drawings and crap on the board)
 
So I'd go with the x570 Aorus Elite because you are unlikely to use the 3rd pci-e x16 slot that would justify paying 40-50 euro more for the Aorus pro or that Asus board.
 
I agree with processors being cheaper in a couple of years. A 2700x or 3600 will have about the same performance now... and this amount of power will be enough for maybe a couple of years... at which point we'll have ddr5 and ryzen 4xxx on am4 and rumors of socket am5, so you'll probably be able to buy 3900x cheap... 3950x will probably be a bit expensive.
 
 

mariushm Thanks a million again for your time and for help💯
10nth vote goes from me to Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO cause is clearly better board for me from Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite (have and better audio chip Realtek 1220 vs Realtek1200 who have elite)
Both is very close to price here in 🇬🇷 (Elite 220€ Pro 250€)

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Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO🥇 on my basket ⚓

Thanks all people for vote and participation 👍
 
 
 
 

Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO 💕

You're joking right?
What lan party did you go to where they don't have a 8-16-24-48 port gigabit switch in which to plug your computer?
You can buy used 24+ port gigabit switches on eBay for under 50$ so it's silly to even think wifi for parties.

The Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro gives you the option for using wifi, so I would choose that.
When going to LAN parties, wireless internet is usually useful.

I like ASUS PRIME X570 PRO

I'd go with Aorus...well, I DID go with Aorus for my Zen 2 build. haha.  Been loving it, and since they were kind of the darlings at launch of Zen 2, there are plenty of helpful videos out there that'll help you dial in your setup based on the BIOS of the Aorus motherboard.  Buildzoid did a great one. 

Yeah, the Aorus Pro is the better option.
 

My vote also goes to the Aorus Pro.
The VRM design and cooling is the big one for me...

Gigabyte, because it has more USB ports in the back, to me that's important. I hate giving up IO for some stupid dongles. Also the black looks much cleaner than then the white. Both are good motherboards, I guess it domes down to the subtle difference in features.

you know for a ryzen 7 you can get a cheaper board, like the prime-p or the tuf, that does as good a job

Gigabyte.

Asrock Steel Legend has weaker VRM and weaker heatsink on the VRM compared to all the other boards mentioned.
It has only 4 phases with only 2 power stages per phase (so 8 in total), compared to 12 (or more) for everything else. The heatsink is also a bit weak.
The processor you chose doesn't consume a lot of power, and x570 boards were designed from the start to work well even with 12 core and 16 core processors so all boards will work well with a 8 core processor, but nevertheless on the Asrock Steel Legend some choices were made to save money...
 
If the price is the same as the one for Gigabyte x570 aorus elite , you do get a usb type c on the ioshield and you get a alc1220 sound chip instead of the cheaper alc1200 , but you lose the usb 3.1 gen2 (10gbps) connector for front panel usb and you get lower quality vrm to pinch some pennies (but the vrm is good enough even for 10-12 core processors)
 
re: private message ... your 5700xt and motherboard .... it's not the motherboard, most likely it's problems caused by the video card driver... they have released lately updates that fix a lot of the issues that only happen with 57xx series cards.
 

Cheaper boards I have no problems recommending are Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite and Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus
 
Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite : https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-X570-AORUS-802-11AC-Motherboard/dp/B07WL5MFXL/
Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus : https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-X570-Plus-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B07SXF8GY3/
 
I'm leaning towards x570 Aorus Elite because it has usb 3.1 gen2 type c connector in case you choose a case with such a connector on the front panel. 
I think both are available with or without wifi, the gigabyte board for sure is.
 
Elite vs pro ... elite doesn't have a 3rd pci-e x16 slot and usb type-c on the ioshield and has an older sound chip (alc1200 instead of alc1220, but still quite decent)
The TUF board from Asus uses the same chip but renamed to S1200A, also drops the 3rd pci-e x16, but also doesn't have those 4 extra usb 2.0 ports ... so feature wise again the elite seems better to me.
 

Look yourself
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=611478281

they are both good, i vote for whichever is cheaper.

I would still suggest the Aorus one.

They'll work equally fine.
The stuff about 114dB(Rear) and 110dB Front  is signal-to-noise ratio... it tells you how good the audio amplifier is if you for example plug high quality headphones into those analogue audio jacks.
It just means clearer sound with less background noise or hiss and so on.
 
With those Z906 speakers, you may want to use the optical out on your sound card with a TosLink cable, and leave the analogue inputs for a console (xbox/ps4 etc if those don't have optical / digital coax out) 
Here's an example cable:
Amazon.com: KabelDirekt Optical Digital Audio Cable (10 Feet) Home Theater Fiber Optic Toslink Male to Male Gold Plated Optical Cables Best For Playstation & Xbox - Pro Series
Amazon.com: AmazonBasics CL3 Rated Optical Audio Digital Toslink Cable - 15 Feet: Electronics
 
These are like hdmi/displayport cables for audio ... the sound card takes the digital sound and sends it through the fiber cable and leaves the decoding to the actual speakers.
With regular analogue outputs (those 3 audio jacks for 5.1), the sound card has to take the digital signal, convert it to analogue (and that's where that 114dB snr value comes up), and the amplify it a bit so that it can go through the analogue cables to the speaker system, where that speaker system will amplify it again. So using a digital cable would result in less processing of the sound and in theory it would sound better.
But, it would still be quite nice even with the analogue outputs, modern audio chips are quite good.

Pretty much.
 
 
But the reason for the Auros pro is that it has an actual heatsink on the VRMs, but also the fact that the Vishy powerstages that asus uses dont exactly have the best efficiency curve iirc. 
 
While the Asus board has slightly better VRM modules, the Auros Pro makes up for it with a heatsink. 
 
Edit: i noticed you explained it later on. Sorry. 

Asus board uses 4 phases , each with 3 SiC639 50A power stages, so in total you have 4x3x50A = 600A max current
Gigabyte uses 6 phases, each with 2 IR3599 40A power stages, so in total you have 6x2x40A = 480A max current
 
Considering a 16 core Ryzen that's overclocked is probably not gonna get close to 300-350A of current, the fact that one does 480a max while the other is rated 600a max is pointless, they're both overkill.
In theory, more phases is better for overclocking because it gives a smoother voltage and finer control over the voltage, but in practice Asus has quite a lot of experience and fine tuned that chip they use for years now and it works well for them, so the Gigabyte's 6 phases vs 4 phases for Asus is kind of a draw.
 
The Asus board may be a tiny bit more efficient at low currents, when a processor consumes something like 20-50 watts but we're talking let's say 95% efficiency for Asus compared to 94.5% efficiency for Gigabyte
Translated into heat, that would be like the VRM reaching 75 degrees celsius on Asus, and 77 degrees Celsius on Gigabyte, where the maximum temperature is 90 degrees - both are well below the maximum recommended, and the difference is very low... that's what  "a touch better" means in this context.
 
From a mechanical point of view, the Gigabyte heatsink with those fins and all the ensemble, is better quality, better heatsink than Asus's block of aluminum with some cuts in it ...but they both do the job perfectly fine, keeping that circuit well below the maximum temperatures.
 
 

I listed some of the things a board has while the other doesn't and so on... some of the differences.
It's up to you to determine if those extra features or missing features are a big deal, give each feature a number of points and determine if you absolutely need some feature or not.
 
For example:
 
ps/2 connector . Asus has it, Gigabyte doesn't.  Some people that are into super heavy gaming, competitions and so on, swear that ps/2 keyboards are better so they need this connector. I personally don't care and have used usb keyboards for years just fine.
 
video connectors on the io shield.  Asus has 2 , Gigabyte has 1....  It would be NICE to have two connectors, but if I think about it, it's really unlikely I'd buy some expensive motherboard and combine it with a processor with integrated graphics. So, having just one video output is not a big deal, it's nice that it's there just in case I want to test the motherboard with a cpu that has integrated graphics, but besides that it will most likely be 2 unused connectors wasting space.
 
Now the Asus has 2 extra usb 3.0 ports which is nice, but they both have plenty of usb 3.0 5gbps and 10gbps on the back. 2 more doesn't really make much of a difference. 
The Gigabyte board does have 4 usb 2.0 connectors, which can be used for low speed devices like keyboard, mouse, usb printer, scanners leaving the usb 3.0 connectors available for stuff like capture cards, external storage, usb network cards etc
So for me, the Gigabyte is a win here.
 
I dig the minimal colors on the Gigabyte model, to me the lack of color coding on the audio connectors and the use of only two colors for usb ports makes it look more modern , more elegant. I don't like all the colors on the Asus ioshield but in the end this is a matter of taste.
The Gigabyte also has 2 m.2 heatsinks so you could easily hide 2 big ssds under those and keep the looks nice inside a case, while the Asus board only gives you one connector.
It doesn't make a big difference but it's worth mentioning that the Gigabyte board also has those reinforced / shielded ram slots (an extra metal bit around the plastic) which in theory can help dissipate a bit of heat from the ram sticks and otherwise it makes the board look a bit nicer.
 
As for the pci-e thing, like I said... in only one scenario, where you would have two thick video cards and something else in the 3rd pci-e x16 slot and you need to install a 4th device that's a pci-e x1 card, the Asus motherboard would score points here because there's 2 pci-e x1 slots under the 1st pci-e x16 slot, so one slot would not be obstructed.
My thoughts is that it's really a very low percentage of people that would be in this scenario.
If you have two thick video cards you can insert a pci-e x1 card in that 3rd pci-e x16 slot so it's not a big deal.
If you have a 10gbps ethernet card or a hba/raid controller or a capture card in the 2nd or 3rd pci-e x16 slot and you need to plug a pci-e x1 card, you'd be able to do it because other than video cards most are not so thick as to block the other pci-e x1 slots.
Also, majority of users these days don't even buy 2 video cards to block all ports as SLI and Crossfire aren't a thing anymore.
 
So really, the benefit of Asus allowing install of pci-e x1 card if all 3 pci-e x16 slots are populated with thick cards is minimal, so it's not worth tipping the balance to Asus over Gigabyte just for this.
 
It's more or less the same sound card.  It's pretty much just difference in software licenses (options enabled for the audio chip) and choice of audio amplifier on the motherboard.
I don't know which one would be better, but you'd probably need 200$+ headphones to tell the difference.