Mark30031

9 minutes ago, Mojo-Jojo said:

83.4 is not really concerning, but very near the throttling temperature.

 

As long as power and thermal constraints allow so, most GPUs and CPUs will "overclock" themselves. So this is expected behaviour.

 

I could go on a tangent and write pages about this, but I'll spare you Long story short, 14000 MHz is a marketing misnomer. The real, physical clock signal that clocks the data transfers is 1750 MHz. Because of a lot of smart tech, each clock cycle is good for 8 data transfers. The amount of data transfers therefore is 14000 MT/s. Most software (and I agree with this) mention the real clock speeds.

 

Stats look OK, temps might be an explanation for your performance drops after a while. I see that your fans barely ramp up as temps increase. Are you on some sort of quiet profile perhaps?

Where can I check :(?

Isn't 2000RPM fast?

Max GPU went up to 83.4, really hot isn't it?

and GPU Clock went max to 2040mhz, but it's rated at 1695Mhz No?

and Memory clock rated at 14000mhz but it's maximizing 1750mhz?

Are these stats looking ok? if so, what could be making my game fps go lower (and stay there until I restart the game, no memory leak btw)...

Specs : 

Ryzen 5 3600 + Hyper 212 cooler

Jigsaw 2x8 3200MHZ

RTX 3060TI Gigabyte Eagle 

Corsair RM750 Gold 80+

Phanteks P300 case (2 case fans in front as intake, 1 back as exhaust)

Corsair and Samsung SSD's

1TB HDD

B450 Aorus M motherboard

At first I thought it's a GPU fan or front fan hitting a cable, seems like it's not coming from there, it's not from the hard drive (hard drive in the front if the case at the bottom), seems like it comes from the back or something, any idea what it sounds like ?

https://streamable.com/nu5sss

The cable has 8 pins or 6 pins I dont remember, so it has 2 pins that are not together with the others? Or is it broken

Before I put the cooler on, is this enough?

4 minutes ago, TekSupport said:

im not sure about how/if temps are affected by an windows installations that wasnt setup on that new pc but it can/will cause you problems in the long run, whether its driver issues or not getting the maximum performance.

 So its always best to try to install a fresh installation of windows.

Make sure to backup any data that you dont want to lose before doing the reinstallation.

Let's be honest, most likely fresh windows install won't help "fixing" the temps.

After I do that, what do you recommend me to do ?

20 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

yeah when you get a new motherboard and cpu you should reinstall windows, that's why you're getting weird issues

You think it will affect the temperatures O.O?

I mean my temps should be 15-20c lower than I get now, idk if windows fresh installation will fix it o.o

I did activate it again by writing the key down, should I FULLY Fresh install it ?

15 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

did you do a fresh windows isntall?

I had a windows on the pc already

Got myself new Ryzen 5 3600, Gigabyte b450 aorus m, Cooler master hyper 212 red turbo, Gskill 2x8gb 3200mhz, Phanteks P300 Eclipse white temp glass.

And took out the GPU, PSU, HDD, SSD from my previous pc (1.5 yo).

I Built it 3 days ago, and it works. looks good and just works. but works weird.

Idle CPU temp on desktop jumps between 45-60 and sometimes when browsing web it jumps to 70's and jumps all cores sometimes to 1.475v max. also the CPU Cooler RPM jumps to 1600 (max) randomly even at 50c.

OCCT Test on CPU for 15min maxed out temp was 85-88.

2 other times I did an OCCT test I had MANY issues found for some reason so I just stopped the test.

second problem : GPU fan speed jumping between 0-1100rpm randomly on desktop (idle again).

Link to pictures showing the 

  [https://imgur.com/a/xdFN2NK](https://imgur.com/a/xdFN2NK)   here you can see the weird CPU fan behaviour (OCCT test wasn't running), the CPU temperatures unstable when idle, the GPU fans behaving weird, and the test which found so much issues for some reason idk why....

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forgot to say that 3 days ago when I built the pc I mounted the cooler fans the opposite way, the next day I took of the cooler and fixed it but I didn't clean the thermal paste and place a new one because the one on the CPU was put the day before....

53 minutes ago, aaradorn said:

Try uninstalling the GPU driver using DDU and then reinstalling the newest driver.

 

Do you use the asus strix software to control the fan? It might be a extremely aggressive fan curve.

Nope no app

Im in desktop, gtx 1070ti strix, drivers up to date, but fans go up instantly to 1000+- rpm randomly every 3-5 secs and im just on desktop with hwinfo censors running and OCCT (not running a test)

1 minute ago, Vishera said:

They paid more

what do you mean ?

I have this B450 Aorus M motherboard, and I have the latest (f50) bios, I see around the internet people have a different looking bios , with different options for example they have CPU Vcore, and I don't.

Why so ?

7 minutes ago, _Omega_ said:

I would assume around 70max under full load maybe even less

Do you recommend to take off the cooler, clean the cpu off the paste and put new thermal paste?

2 minutes ago, _Omega_ said:

okay then thats not the problem... seems very strange the hyper 212 turbo should keep the 3600 cool, even under load 

around what temps should it keep it?

Just now, _Omega_ said:

no, i dont think thas needet... wich paste did you use?

the one that came with the cooler (cooler master)

1 minute ago, _Omega_ said:

have you used enough thermalpaste?

I guess I did yea, but I did remount my CPU cooler, should I take off the cooler again but this time take off the old paste (2 days old) and put new one ? 

2 minutes ago, MartinKweh said:

Its due to the varying temperature of the processor jumping between voltages to wake the cores. Id say its normal. If you are bothered by the fan ramping up and down, you can overclock instead and make the voltage static. Or make the fans of the pc stay at a certain speed

why does it do that, even if I don't touch my pc, just leave it on desktop, my voltage and fan speed jumps up to max, for no reason. and why OCCT found like 320 errors O.O in just 5 mins?

3 minutes ago, _Omega_ said:

is the cooler mounted right?

I guess yea it should be, fitting the cpu good enough and is well attached with the screws

Ryzen 5 3600

Cooler master hyper 212 turbo 

GTX 1070TI Strix

Phanteks p300 eclipse white

2x8gb ram 3200mhz

Gigabyte b450 aorus M

My Cooler fans are going from low speed to MAX speed randomly when even on desktop, and still my minimum temp on desktop is 50c-70c

I ran OCCT for 5min and BOOM 300+ issues were found, and my temps went up to the 85c

i'm so confused and worried, what to do ?

I built the pc myself so tell me what should I check.

Forgot to mention that my Voltage is also high (jumping in desktop to 1.475 randomly)

https://imgur.com/a/yYm4d67

I've read that I shouldn't use HWMonitor, but I should use HWinfo because it's the closest to Ryzen Master's temp.

I go to the CPU Section and I have this 3 temps : 

CPU (tctl/tdie)

CPU Die

CPU CCD1 (tdie)

I have a Ryzen 5 3600

which one to look at for most accurate temp?

what is the safest temps for the CPU?

Bump

26 minutes ago, yaboistar said:

as a rule of thumb, if you lift the cooler off, replace the paste. unless you're just testing the CPU for POST.

 

what can happen is you can get air pockets trapped in the paste, and air is a fantastic insulator, so the thermal performance can suffer as result

What if I applied the paste just 2 days ago?

Is it necessary to reapply thermal paste again?

First I had to take all the parts out of the first pc (cuz I switched motherboard, case, cooler, and cpu) and my gtx 1070ti strix was stuck inside the slot, all I could do is go literally Agressive with all my force to take it out, cuz it really was stuck, i'm afraid I did something to the pins (how can I know?). This was the first mistake.
Second mistake : I was building it on a carpet which was on a table (more a towel than a carpet, built it at my friend's house) and again i'm afraid something happend (again, how should I know?).
Third mistake, I installed the cpu cooler the opposite way,  the fans are pushing the air away thag comes from the front to the cpu, and other side of the cooler the second cooler fan is sucking air in from the back of the case (where there's a fan sucking air out).
Forth mistake : I have a b450 aorus m, I forgot to put 2 screws at the bottom, but it still feels pretty solid and standing still, is it aight?
Worried about the gpu and all the components actually because of the first points I talked about at this post, and thoughts? Btw CPU is hot (85c under load) because of the cooler mistake so I'm gonna switch sides tommorow.
Pc posts and plays all good working no problems but still worried especially about the GPU incident and the fact it was built on a towel.