Donut Dan

I like the GUI!

well, my card is broken but not completely dead. I get artifacts while gaming on my screen if I leave the settings to high, and on defaults my system crashes/ But if you cut the memory clock it might work correctly, even if it is weaker.

3 hours ago, Levent said:

If your card is still crashing with lower TDP set in software, I would not expect a modded bios to fix your issues. I also dont think flashing a RX560 bios to a RX570 bios possible due to differences in GPU core level. You can technically force flash it but if you have no ways of recovering the card, that is not something I would recommend. If you want to brick your card, you can use -f parameter with atiwinflash in command prompt. Full parameters are listed in the thread you linked. Obviously dont use GUI.

I was hoping that the lower core count would make up for the hardware issues in some fashion (maybe disengage the bad pipelines if I was super lucky). But since the larger problem is with the vram, I don't think it was a perfect plan. I do have a way of recovering the system because I have a loaner Quadro P620 that I have been using to attempt getting the card to behave properly. Mostly a matter of setting the performance the way I like it and stress testing, so I was confident with whatever BIOS modding I did could be undone.

so strange but now software is doing what I want, after starting this thread!

52 minutes ago, c00face said:

Not sure what you're trying to do. But to get ATI flash to run, you need to run as administration. Right click.

I want to flash a BIOS from a weaker card (RX 560 for example) onto my RX 570 to improve stability. I was running ATIflash as administrator, for shore.

1 hour ago, Levent said:

That is the wrong way of going about your issue. What is the problem with using MSI Afterburner/AMD's own crap to set a reduced power limit? What exactly is the issue you are facing?

So strange. I was about to let you know that MSI afterburner's values are greyed out and can't be changed, which I kept trying to overcome over and over again, but as soon as I opened the app once again to share a screenshot, it is now as expected!

I will try to get this to work, but the problem with software (insofar as the AMD radeon software for OC) it does not seem to be appropriately applying my settings and the card still crashes. I will quote you if MSI afterburner fails. Still, I would love a software free, more permanent solution in the form of a BIOS alteration for any future contingencies, out of convenience.

How do I flash an RX 560 BIOS onto my RX 570? It's defective so it needs a power limit put on it, and radeon software won't cut it. I tried ATIflash, but it says "SubsystemID mismatch" unless I am flashing another gigabyte BIOS onto the card. I tried using this guide:

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-ati-flashing-guide.212849/

but I am getting an error message:

if there is an alternative to flashing, like a really basic BIOS mod, I am also open to that.

Reason radeon software won't work: it used to, but now it fails to open, sometimes I get the error message that drivers don't load properly, and it doesn't seem to be correctly applying my underclock settings.

My poor RX 570 is having problems loading the driver. Up to this point I have used a custom profile in Radeon settings to keep my clocks low, but now it seems the software will crash my system, and the custom profile doesn't really seem to do anything. Is there a BIOS I can flash onto my Gigabyte Windforce RX 570 to force a more strict power limit? I was also considering even an RX 470 or 560 BIOS to achieve this, so if that is viable, let me know.

3 hours ago, highrusher said:

I can buy it, honestly bro like I don't care what it looks like as long as it does the job, I'm not putting it in a museum I'm putting it in a case that doesnt even have a glass side panel so u couldn't see

I think it's a good choice, maybe not too expensive and will get the job done. I know some people still use a 750 TI and my own graphics card is so under clocked it might just be as good as a GTX 950 anyway.

1 hour ago, highrusher said:

Is this a good card? It's a weird brand palit idk if it is good or not but it is cheaper than other brands.

I had an EVGA GTX 950 a little while ago and it was really fast. Can you buy one of those? Palit is common in Asia I think and they are decent, even if this graphics card doesn't look like anything special.

28 minutes ago, SimmuSaab said:

Just as a reference I got both computers for about 100 bucks total. With everything in it minus the storage. This is the board I am sticking the dual xeons in (Intel S5520HC E26045-457 MOTHERBOARD). Which already has 2 quad core CPUs in it. Is there anything I should watch out for when trying this out?

Sometimes these are good, if you can lift the ram and sell the computer again to regain some money. I was really lucky, I got my motherboard cheap from eBay, but it is sad that it needs a power adapter for the 24 pin. I don't know if a nicer motherboard makes for a computer that is still cheap, because if I had to pay much more, I probably would have looked for a Ryzen processor and really cheap AMD motherboard.

28 minutes ago, Ligonsker said:

*Is the B450 as good as the B450m? (apart from being larger)

 

looking at motherboards, it would seem that MSI are the only ones right now with a habit of using the same name on very different boards. Specifically the MSI B450 A-Pro and the B450M A-Pro appear to be radically different, despite implying the size is the only difference.

I highly suggest the used market for the graphics card and motherboard. When it comes to mouse and keyboard, your personal taste is pretty important as well. I came up with this parts list, and you should add parts that you'd need:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LMs3Qq

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($167.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Silicon Power Ace A55 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($30.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.19 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 400 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($67.06 @ Amazon)
Total: $468.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-31 10:43 EDT-0400

An excellent GPU choice would be an RX 580 or 480 from eBay, preferably 8GB, but if you actually manage to ses a ryzen 3 3100 or 3300X in stock, that is a great way to save money and put even more into the graphics card. You might even be able step up to a GTX 1070, or something like a GTX 1660 super.

Since you listed your budget in pounds, I went to PCPartpicker.uk and found some other choices you might like, if you are not buying from a single retailer that is.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zphmP6/antec-neoeco-gold-zen-500-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-ne500g-zen

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BFPgXL/antec-neoeco-gold-zen-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-ne600g-zen

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PVzZxr/corsair-txm-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020132-na

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vrH48d/silverstone-power-supply-sstsx500lg

The local Tier List ranks then pretty high

Unfortunately there are no "regular PCIe cables", but you can tell us the model of your power supply and hopefully we could think of something. Also, you can ask the manufacturer if replacement cables are available.

13 minutes ago, Kaleb Janzen said:

I have an old Windows xp Dell but when I power it on it beeps 3 times and doesn't work

May we see the specs, or perhaps the model? Hopefully you can salvage something from that PC. You might also want to look on Amazon for used Dell Optiplex models, I have seen some great prices for computers that have a core i5 in them, which is great for the budget gaming space. They also fit a standard ATX power supply, which means that you can get some good value out of them when it's time to upgrade.

I have this old Fitbit dongle and if there's one thing I hate, it's throwing away a perfectly functional gadget. The accessory is long gone, but this USB nub is functional, so I wanted to see if it was possible to replace the proprietary firmware with some generic Bluetooth firmware to make this thing work.

Is there an easy way to find firmware, and is there an easy way to flash?

15 hours ago, jiggyboyflacko said:

Thanks, tweaked it to 1.275, would that be safer? Iv'e noticed after intense gaming, if I were to shut my PC down it would restart as if it crashed. Was thinking that might be due to the voltage 

that would be a much more comfortable voltage, for sure. Did changing the voltage to this lower value improve your situation?

Might want to reduce the voltage to your CPU, I've heard that it's bad to go above 1.33 on new Ryzen

4 hours ago, 5x5 said:

Nvidia drivers are hard coded to give out an error if an AMD card is detected. Not sure how your situation was but I've seen it multiple times when attempted

my card was able to game and run folding, what is the specific error that is designed to come up? Also, I'm definitely not the first person who's run AMD and nvidia side by side, so I'm not super sure about this "hard coded error." How is this meant to work with things like the Ryzen APU series, such as the 2200G, which have Vega graphics onboard? Certainly these work fine with nvidia graphics cards?

12 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

No, adding both cards will only create a driver nightmare

Actually, I had run a GTX alongside my 570 and I decided that I would download the Radeon drivers from their site, while I let device manager handle the GeForce drivers. I think this kept the software suites from conflicting with one another. However, this was for folding@home, I don't know if that same usefulness can be found here.

The i5 and the 1650 would perform alright, but I highly suggest spending the slight extra cash on a GTX 1650 super, since it has more CUDA cores, as well as better memory. This like should be helpful: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=476&sort=price&page=1

2 minutes ago, xSzen said:

 

Any idea on the Asus ROG STRIX b450-F?

It appears to be a very popular board, but from what I can tell, no more impressive than competition from MSI, the likes of which are the B450-A Pro, Gaming Plus, and Tomahawk, and all of those have a MAX version which is guaranteed compatible.

8 minutes ago, PyroTheWise said:

Not with a MSI Max motherboard.  They are fully ready for Ryzen.  THere are other motherboards as well from Asus, gigabtye, etc.. that are ryzen ready now.   You just have to check the Motherboard of your choice.

 

I build a gaming PC using the Ryzen 5 3600 with MSI Tomahawk Max Mobo and no flashing of the bios needed. 

I've also been told that the ASRock B450M/AC is so new that they all come with an updated BIOS, and since that board is both cheap (with a decent heat sink) and has WiFi, it's pretty compelling.

AMD Ryzen is a pretty good alternative to a Z390 motherboard in my opinion. A Ryzen 5 3600 is less than $200!

I used to use a GTX 1060 alongside my current RX 570 for folding, was detected automatically. You may need to take some extra steps when you get rid of the 560, though.